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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#28051: Mar 29th 2018 at 10:46:53 PM

Send in the Foreign Legion. That's what they're for.

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NogaiKhan pic unrelated from close enough Since: Nov, 2017 Relationship Status: On the prowl
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#28052: Mar 29th 2018 at 11:37:53 PM

To be clear, France lacks the military capability to actually force Turkey to do anything. No one can do that but the US and (by virtue of having its largest military concentrations a stone's throw away) Russia. France's expeditionary warfare capability is borderline non-existent on a scale that actually matters. Any confrontation would be purely political, and Turkey itself has more than a few strings it can pull to make such a confrontation undesirable for France (like the presence of some 4 million Syrian refugees they're preventing from going to Europe).

Of course, that's assuming we live in a world where such a confrontation would actually happen. We do not live in that world. France, Turkey, and the USA will extensively talk about any actions behind the scenes before doing anything and make sure not to step on each other's toes.

edited 29th Mar '18 11:38:11 PM by NogaiKhan

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#28053: Mar 30th 2018 at 1:10:49 PM

Looks like the Kurds did make the whole thing up.

France is offering renewed support to Syrian rebels fighting Islamic extremists — but is not preparing to send troops to help the rebels resist a Turkish military offensive.

French President Emmanuel Macron met Thursday with Syrian opposition forces in Paris. Afterward, a Kurdish leader at the meeting claimed that Macron had promised to send troops to Manbij near Syria's border with Turkey.

The Kurdish-Arab town is under threat of a Turkish military operation that has already complicated the war in Syria. The Kurdish claim deeply angered Turkey — and raised fears that France was ready for a military conflict with Turkey, a fellow NATO member.

An official in Macron's office denied any such plans, saying Friday that Macron only promised the Syrian rebels to "continue this fight together" against Islamic State extremists in the area.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#28054: Mar 30th 2018 at 3:30:59 PM

I'm guessing that the leaders in Paris don't speak diolomatese and Macron does, leading to dangerous misunderstandings?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
#28055: Mar 31st 2018 at 8:03:42 AM

It's possible Macron had said and meant it, but he had said it before Trump decided to withdraw mere hours later. Now his people are trying to roll it back because France does not want to be the one left holding the bag on its own for no reason and no benefit at all.

Manbij is fucked.

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#28056: Mar 31st 2018 at 8:16:24 AM

[up] US SOF are still there, I wonder if they’ll turn and run or stick around?

They should have sent a poet.
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#28057: Mar 31st 2018 at 8:23:35 AM

Turkey's Anadolu news agency publishes map of French military positions in Syria

A map reportedly detailing the location of French military bases in northern Syria was published Friday by Turkish press agency Anadolu, a day after French President Emmanuel Macron assured the Syrian Democratic Forces of France’s support.

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FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
#28058: Mar 31st 2018 at 9:24:45 AM

Meanwhile in Yemen,

A fire at Hodeidah port, where the World Food Program is warehousing their aid, is in flames right now. Current theory is that its just an accident, a short ignited the blaze. But for a country at near famine levels, this is still devastating.

Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...
FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
#28059: Apr 4th 2018 at 8:27:50 PM

So Trump wants the US out in 6 months. Probably less.

I think I found footage of this somewhere...

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
#28060: Apr 7th 2018 at 6:30:19 PM

Trump withdrew the decision, but he ain’t happy about it.

——

There’s word from human rights groups that Eastern Ghouta is under attack via chemical weapons. Damascus says that they didn’t do it.

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#28061: Apr 7th 2018 at 6:31:29 PM

There might be dozens in a gas barrel bomb attack in Eastern Ghouta. And this was done when the SAA has mostly won this battle.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/07/middleeast/syria-suspected-chemical-attack/index.html

The Chinless One and his friends sure do like their terror weapons.

BBC is reporting at least 70 dead, and that it was a nerve agent (probably sarin).

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43686157

edited 7th Apr '18 6:36:27 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
#28062: Apr 8th 2018 at 9:09:30 PM

The Tiyas (aka T-4) Airbase in Homs just got hit with an airstrike. No one is claiming responsibility as yet, but given that Trump tweeted against "Animal Assad" earlier today....

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
#28063: Apr 8th 2018 at 9:10:06 PM

Syrian media dropped news that America was behind it. They later retracted it.

edited 8th Apr '18 9:10:17 PM by Ominae

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
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#28064: Apr 9th 2018 at 3:40:13 AM

Given the M.O. it might as well be the Israeli Air Force.

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#28065: Apr 9th 2018 at 3:52:28 AM

Wasn't there already a confirmation it was Israel? Huh.

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
#28066: Apr 9th 2018 at 5:10:14 AM

Damascus is calling out Tel Aviv for it...

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
#28067: Apr 9th 2018 at 4:32:25 PM

Seems it was the Israelis, though reason has yet to be given. The "real" strike from the US might come in a few hours though.

Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#28068: Apr 9th 2018 at 4:33:39 PM

Especially because Trump is livid over recent domestic developments (his lawyer getting raided by the FBI) and probably wants a distraction. A few missile strikes or bombing runs on Syria would be flashy, and he's all about that.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#28069: Apr 9th 2018 at 4:38:12 PM

If another strike does manage to materialize based on what we’re hearing it’s going to be something “real” rather a warning shot like last war. I would assume going after Assad’s air wing or IADS.

It’s sounding like the Israelis struck at T4 due to the Iranian presence there.

They should have sent a poet.
FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
#28070: Apr 9th 2018 at 6:03:36 PM

Methinks it'll be the airwing, as it provides little practical value beyond terror bombing and symbolism at this point.

Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#28071: Apr 9th 2018 at 6:11:24 PM

Can Assad's airforce be damaged without killing dozens of Russian military personnel?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#28072: Apr 9th 2018 at 6:17:38 PM

[up] Maybe, maybe not. I imagine that's going to be the calculus on a potential strike. If we don't directly strike at their air wing we could also seriously degrade their ability to conduct air ops by destroying runways or fuel depots.

They should have sent a poet.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#28073: Apr 10th 2018 at 12:35:10 AM

Or you just pull it through and to hell with Russian fatalities.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
#28074: Apr 10th 2018 at 3:25:26 AM

Now Damascus is accusing Tel Aviv of conducting a chemical weapons attack on Syrian soil.

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#28075: Apr 10th 2018 at 3:26:29 AM

Taken out all the stops in fingerpointing.

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