It's not quite at 2:1. I would rather wait for another vote or two.
I object to any of the brunette names. Those tend to collect people with light brown hair which isn't this trope.
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It was just over it when I bumped.
Then it's still moving around a bit. Silly thing.
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The guidelines actually say 65% last I checked, and 27:14 is 65.8%. If you want to get technical. :)
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It's now at 2:1 anyway. o.o
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With the vote right on the edge like this, it may be useful to start tracking the numbers so we can see if it's really stabilizing. So: currently +14 (yeas:28 nays:14) 2.00 : 1 in favor of a rename.
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Current standings: +13 (yeas:28 nays:15) 1.87 : 1 in favor of a rename; only picked up one new vote (nay), but it's now short of a supermajority again.
edited 22nd Sep '11 7:03:22 PM by Xtifr
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current standings: +14 (yeas:29 nays:15) 1.93 : 1 for rename
One more yea vote since last time. Still short of a supermajority.
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Now at +16 (yeas:31 nays:15) 2.07 : 1. Two more yeas, no more nays, in the last two days.
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Jupiterian Local
I think we can call this in favor of "rename".
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
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Agreed.
As it's past 2 now, I'm calling it. Swapping for alt names crowner.
I really think we should cut the Real Life section while we're at this. It's a mess.
edited 26th Sep '11 6:47:49 PM by shimaspawn
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Please cut the Real Life section. If a person is born with dark hair and pale skin, that means nothing.
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Forgot to say: the crowner was empty when I found it, so I tossed in some suggestions from earlier in the thread that seemed possibly ok to me, and grabbed a couple of options off the redirect list as well. If anyone has other names they prefer that I missed, please feel free to add them. I wasn't searching all that carefully.
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Depends on the culture and the example really. But as it stands most of the RL section can be cut.
Anyway that Snow White Beauty Standard one really would not work as that would require blood red lips, not required of the trope and most of the examples don't follow that (especially the eastern ones.)
edited 28th Sep '11 11:30:41 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!
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Looks like it's pretty solidly in favour of Raven Hair, Ivory Skin. o.o
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Yeah, I wasn't expecting that either.
Title? What Title?
Not to stir up too much of a hornet's nest here, but am I the only one getting a People Sit On Chairs vibe from this so-called "trope"?
Being in a Japanese-produced work is not enough of a difference to warrant its own trope.
The real life examples, definitely. The rest of it, I think it is a beauty standard, but I think the way it's written makes it sound like just anyone that has that colouration.
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I started to rename Black and White Beauty to Raven Hair, Ivory Skin as the crowner suggested, but then while looking at some wicks, I came to the realization that Raven Hair, Ivory Skin is really a poor name for this trope since it lacks the "beauty" or "beautiful" part of the former title. Basically, I think that changing the name to Raven Hair, Ivory Skin is just going to encourage people using the trope to mean People Sitting On Chairs.
I feel like it might be a good idea to deal with that issue before going through with the rename. I apologize for not mentioning this earlier and for messing with the rename without knowing what I was doing.
edited 13th Oct '11 1:52:16 PM by LouieW
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I see the Awesomeness.
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The People Sit On Chairs label strikes me as majorly overused. How is this more PSOC than most Personal Appearance Tropes?
edited 14th Oct '11 2:20:59 AM by HiddenFacedMatt
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Your mistake comes from thinking I'm not just as a opposed to the other amazingly generic personal appearance tropes. I mean, seriously, we've got pages about common hair and eye colors... really? Those are tropes now?
So yeah... this is People Sitting On Chairs. It isn't a trope... its just a fact of life.
Being in a Japanese-produced work is not enough of a difference to warrant its own trope.
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