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rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#52476: Mar 17th 2015 at 6:38:43 PM

If a magical girl somehow was able to defeat her own witch, would it become a Persona?
I think she'd have to become a Concept or just a time paradox first, and I don't think either of those can use Personas.

Kotomikun Since: May, 2014
#52477: Mar 17th 2015 at 8:11:47 PM

Only if you concentrated it into too small a region of space.

Yeah, but if you spread it out (over an infinite area?) it's not useful, because of that whole entropy thing. I mean, if the universe is infinite then it already is that. If it's in a finite area, you'd get an infinitely massive black hole expanding forever at the speed of light... assuming relativity still works, but with infinite masses involved it probably wouldn't and everything would be sucked up instantly.

I know black holes don't "suck," but we're talking about creating boundless energy from nowhere, not turning the sun into a black hole of the same mass. As absurd as Gurren Lagann is, it's actually right about the spiral nemesis problem. Magical energy from nowhere is pretty dangerous if you don't have Sufficiently Advanced Aliens collecting and regulating the stuff.

...Well, apparently, it's pretty dangerous even with that. For them. Because they're jerks.

edited 17th Mar '15 8:14:05 PM by Kotomikun

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Formerly G.G.
#52478: Mar 18th 2015 at 2:28:14 PM

To be fair magic has to come from somewhere even if it from lifeforce entity or a Godlike being. Reality kind of sucks when it comes to magic in the Puella universe. sad

"Eratoeir is a Gangsta."
higurashimerlin Since: Aug, 2012
#52479: Mar 18th 2015 at 4:01:15 PM

Well magic seems to come from the hopes and despair of souls with strong destinies. This makes humanity ideal. We all have emotions and we are a social species meaning that our destinies are tied together. Incubators don't work because they are emotionless and not really a social race. Kyubey is just a single person that controls a bunch of bodies. If he modified himself to have emotions that would work for purpose then he would end up changing his utility function and losing in the end. If he gave himself emotions that work with his utility function it still won't help as he won't despair at winning.

When life gives you lemons, burn life's house down with the lemons.
AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ from Singapore Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
I am now a shiny stone~
#52480: Mar 18th 2015 at 5:42:33 PM

It'd be extra interesting if the power the Girls are tapping into is actually Spiral Power.

The three finest things in life are to splat your enemies, drive them from their turf, and hear their lamentations as their rank falls!
universalperson Since: Jan, 2001
#52481: Mar 19th 2015 at 8:12:08 PM

Puella Magi Suzune Magica has appeared on Hatchette Book's website (Yen Press is an imprint of Hatchette.)

I admit no-one here probably cares.

edited 19th Mar '15 8:17:46 PM by universalperson

TheMageofFire Magical Girl in Training from A Warehouse Out by Sea Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Magical Girl in Training
#52482: Mar 19th 2015 at 8:17:50 PM

Looks like my wallet will be busy with Madoka spin-offs during the summer, heh.

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universalperson Since: Jan, 2001
#52483: Mar 19th 2015 at 8:27:45 PM

More like the rest of the year; Oriko Magica Extra Story releases this month, we'll finally see Tart Magica in April, the Rebellion manga in in June, and after that we get one Meguca manga a month until November...

...And we may still get something in November and December.

Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#52484: Mar 20th 2015 at 2:01:53 AM

I've only just started Different Story. I want to get to them all.

32ndfreeze from Australia Since: Mar, 2012
#52485: Mar 22nd 2015 at 2:40:13 AM

Homura has murder in those eyes.

"But if that happened, Melia might actually be happy. We can't have that." - Handsome Rob
GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Formerly G.G.
#52486: Mar 22nd 2015 at 2:54:12 AM

Shipping Wars....they can get ugly. Now add in Sakura and Tomoyo from Cardcaptors and we will have a party.

"Eratoeir is a Gangsta."
rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#52487: Mar 22nd 2015 at 2:55:47 AM

Tomoyo wouldn't start anything. She knows Sakura's the best, and that's all she needs.

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Formerly G.G.
#52488: Mar 22nd 2015 at 2:59:45 AM

Shipping Wars.......they can get ugly and sometimes we take it too far.

"Eratoeir is a Gangsta."
higurashimerlin Since: Aug, 2012
#52489: Mar 22nd 2015 at 6:44:10 AM

Well politics make people kind of stupid and even choosing a side of between rivals ships counts as politics to our brains.

When life gives you lemons, burn life's house down with the lemons.
Hoki Sankt Kaiser from Mid-Childa Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Sankt Kaiser
#52490: Mar 22nd 2015 at 3:25:03 PM

[up][up][up]Tomoyo would also film the fight.

edited 22nd Mar '15 3:25:23 PM by Hoki

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#52491: Mar 22nd 2015 at 6:40:48 PM

So are people forgetting that Fate and Nanoha at that point in the series are only about 9 or 10 years old?

Do we want to see a 15 year old beat up a 9 year old? I know you all think that Fate is no ordinary 9 year old, but with Homura's Time hax, I can picture him going back in time after learning Fate's powers then using Time-Freeze to make it impossible for her to transform at all.

Then again, if Fate was lucky, she could speed blitz Homura before that cold happen, only it still might not stop the latter.

I really do think the art style of Madoka makes people think they are younger than they really are.

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higurashimerlin Since: Aug, 2012
#52492: Mar 22nd 2015 at 6:42:39 PM

Yeah they don't look like they are 14/15. And of course Homura is actually 24 due to time travel so there is that.

edited 22nd Mar '15 6:42:54 PM by higurashimerlin

When life gives you lemons, burn life's house down with the lemons.
Hoki Sankt Kaiser from Mid-Childa Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Sankt Kaiser
#52493: Mar 22nd 2015 at 7:01:42 PM

[up] How do you know Homura IS 24? She could be a hundred for all we know.

"I will be strong, no matter how long it takes!"
higurashimerlin Since: Aug, 2012
#52494: Mar 22nd 2015 at 7:05:37 PM

Urobuchi said in an interview that Homura has been through about a hundred timelines. Each timeline is one month. I suppose that actually makes her 22/23 but certainly not a hundred.

When life gives you lemons, burn life's house down with the lemons.
Hoki Sankt Kaiser from Mid-Childa Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Sankt Kaiser
#52495: Mar 22nd 2015 at 7:25:43 PM

Isn't that supposed to mean she's been through more or less a hundred, but not exactly a hundred timelines? Also, she was present when Madoka retconned the universe, so doesn't that make her as old as the universe?

"I will be strong, no matter how long it takes!"
universalperson Since: Jan, 2001
#52496: Mar 22nd 2015 at 7:47:54 PM

[up][up]I still think Urobuchi was giving an off-the-cuff answer there.

MoreThanBored Too hot for Tvtropes from The very worst threads Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
Too hot for Tvtropes
#52497: Mar 22nd 2015 at 8:01:30 PM

I think it should count as canon, since he is the writer and there isn't anything that contradicts that. He also said that Homura had likely met Candeloro and Ophelia over the course of her timetraveling.

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AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ from Singapore Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
I am now a shiny stone~
#52498: Mar 23rd 2015 at 8:35:45 AM

Having Tea with HIM

The three finest things in life are to splat your enemies, drive them from their turf, and hear their lamentations as their rank falls!
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
arahman56 Since: Aug, 2010
#52500: Mar 23rd 2015 at 9:34:37 AM

[up]x14 I was thinking it would be more like this.


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