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Ikiniks nor there from neither here Since: Jan, 2012
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#34976: Oct 7th 2012 at 5:30:08 PM

I thought anime wasn't that mainstream...

From The Church of Madoka, the pinkness that shall never fall. ghyaaakhakhakhakhakhaaa! [lol]

edited 7th Oct '12 5:33:40 PM by Ikiniks

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supermerlin100 Since: Sep, 2011
#34977: Oct 7th 2012 at 5:35:56 PM

Does anyone know of a good "Madoka takes Homura's place" fic?

I'm assuming when Madoka goes back she'll find Moemura there (Cuts down on the paradoxes).

Does anyone think Madoka would do better at earning everyones trust then Homura? I assume Sayaka at least will listen. After all Madoka can get to her before kyubey. And what we she do when she realizes that she might have just undone all of Homura's work?

Ikiniks nor there from neither here Since: Jan, 2012
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#34978: Oct 7th 2012 at 5:42:14 PM

[up] I've actually had a similar idea: An alternate events fic that's essentially "episode 10, but with Madoka and Homura's places switched". Madoka succeeds in convincing Homura to just live their lives as best as they can. Eyup. Madoka can do it in three timelines. :D

The anime shows that Madoka has this odd ability to easily become friends with the other girls, best demonstrated with her interactions with Kyouko.

edited 7th Oct '12 5:47:28 PM by Ikiniks

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asellus111 Dragon meido Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#34979: Oct 7th 2012 at 5:46:23 PM

Hmm...interesting idea, but if Madoka has the same power set than Homura she would have one big problem WN, also the stakes would be higher because of her family and friends, she would still have the same problem of defeating the monster not forgetting how clever QB can be...

edited 7th Oct '12 5:50:00 PM by asellus111

1337Haxor Since: Jun, 2012
#34980: Oct 7th 2012 at 5:48:21 PM

Present!

Madoka gave Homura the standard of friendship and hugs as she ascended to a higher plane of exhistence.

Homura's shield was too dangerous and unecessary, the ability to bring together threads of fate and multiply magic potential to godlike level was just out of question for the sake of Madoka's new universe.

Alternatively, one can argue that since Madoka's new exhistence has no beggining or end in mortal time, the time shield and the wish to re-do her meeting with Madoka just got zig-zagged to complete uselessness.

Anyhow, the enigmatic evil face swallowing Madoka to it's eye got replaced by something that looks like godoka with something on her womb, what is the meaning of that?

edited 7th Oct '12 6:01:56 PM by 1337Haxor

Ikiniks nor there from neither here Since: Jan, 2012
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#34981: Oct 7th 2012 at 5:56:04 PM

[up][up] I'm working on the assumption that Madoka and Homura's power levels and are the same as before, though both would have bows (though Madoka's has the time functions). As in, I'm going on the assumption that Madoka's magical power is still bigger than Homura's.

Basically, just switch the positions, not the characteristics or personalities.

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asellus111 Dragon meido Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#34982: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:09:14 PM

[up]Well if the objective is just to save Homura then yeah it's possible, add Mami and they can probably take down WN, but even in timeline one Madoka had to do a heroic sacrifice to defeat it. And the worst is that Madoka wouldn't think twice to do that.

edited 7th Oct '12 6:10:40 PM by asellus111

Ikiniks nor there from neither here Since: Jan, 2012
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#34983: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:15:11 PM

[up] Hm, lots of things to consider. I guess I know who to call for proofreading if I ever decide to make the fic a reality. smile

also

YYYEEEEEAAAAAAAASSSSZZZZZZ YES YES YES AAAAA~ Happy 1400th page! grin

edited 7th Oct '12 6:19:31 PM by Ikiniks

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1337Haxor Since: Jun, 2012
#34985: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:47:48 PM

You know what would be scary and weird?

If another godlike magical girl wished to replace the universe with a place of pure happiness and ponies, makes a lot of stuff harsher in hindsight.

Ikiniks nor there from neither here Since: Jan, 2012
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#34986: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:58:28 PM

Well gooood luck finding that girl. I'm sure we can wait for about ten billion years, give or take a few centuries.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#34987: Oct 7th 2012 at 7:01:03 PM

I think he's trying for one of those trendy "franchise x is really franchise y if z" sort of things.

Like "pokemon is really evangelion during instrumentality." Except "ponies is really madoka with crazy wish."

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greedling Since: Feb, 2010
#34988: Oct 7th 2012 at 7:02:59 PM

If Madoka did the timeloop thing I'd always imagined she'd be trying to save everyone (rather than just Homura) and possibly also the city. If Mami dies, she does the best she can in that loop, but she also thinks it's not good enough and does it over. Sayaka witches, same thing. That was more relevant to me than her people skills.

A Different Story details apparently. First volume certainly sounds like Farewell Story. Don't know about the rest.

edited 7th Oct '12 7:05:48 PM by greedling

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#34989: Oct 7th 2012 at 7:04:15 PM

Slight happiness? Comedy? Fluff?

Sounds like good times.

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asellus111 Dragon meido Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#34990: Oct 7th 2012 at 7:06:01 PM

[up][up]So the new book are slice of life stories...Cute.smile

edited 7th Oct '12 7:06:12 PM by asellus111

greedling Since: Feb, 2010
#34991: Oct 7th 2012 at 7:10:14 PM

Maybe not so cute if the first shows Farewell Story's ending and the rest run along similar lines... but then again it does outright say that there's supposed to be peace and happiness.

edited 7th Oct '12 7:10:49 PM by greedling

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Ikiniks nor there from neither here Since: Jan, 2012
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#34992: Oct 7th 2012 at 7:25:22 PM

[up][up][up][up] Her people skills will likely be the largest part of whether or not she succeeds.

edited 7th Oct '12 7:25:31 PM by Ikiniks

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greedling Since: Feb, 2010
#34993: Oct 7th 2012 at 7:32:34 PM

Since your version assumes a quicker happy ending, I suppose that'd be good enough for you. I deliberately built mine as a tragedy because the first scene that popped into my head was a reversal of Homura's confession in ep 11, and, well.

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asellus111 Dragon meido Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#34994: Oct 7th 2012 at 7:40:15 PM

Well trying to save everything and everyone is certainly a suicide mission in my opinion. Then again it's not impossible if Madoka learns to take priorities and let go of that mentality. Bittersweet ending at best.

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#34995: Oct 7th 2012 at 7:40:49 PM

I for one would welcome a Nichijou or Azumanga or Hidamari-styled slice-of-life spinoff.

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greedling Since: Feb, 2010
#34996: Oct 7th 2012 at 7:50:55 PM

[up][up] Yeah, that was the main thing. If you can redo the timeline, deciding to settle for anything but the golden ending is kind of like choosing to let someone die, right? You have to settle for less than the best in real life because it's just not feasible to do everything perfectly but you can convince yourself this isn't true when you can repeat the timeline and do things better than last time. And it doesn't help that Madoka gets to know people better and better over every timeline so that makes them seem increasingly important to her. So it might get worse, and her standards get higher as she gets to know people better—it's not enough for everyone to survive, say, they have to be to some extent happy—but there's too much to do in one timeline and the burden she takes onto herself is too great and if she tries to help someone she ends up failing someone else and if anyone else dies fighting Walpurgisnacht she has to do it all over again because she made her wish declaring she'd make it all better and she meant it, dammit.

(And now it's the only thing left to guide her, etc etc.)

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#34997: Oct 7th 2012 at 8:01:54 PM

I think Homura would've just gone even more insane if she'd kept trying to get a "golden ending". She was already driving herself nuts with trying to achieve her highest-priority goal, so just think what would've happened if she'd continually tried to protect all of her friends?

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asellus111 Dragon meido Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#34998: Oct 7th 2012 at 8:13:25 PM

Focusing in just that goal is also the reason why Homura didn't succumbed to despair, but it's a double edge sword since she basically had to be in a soldier mentality during a war all the time.

Ikiniks nor there from neither here Since: Jan, 2012
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#34999: Oct 7th 2012 at 8:14:04 PM

assumes a quicker happy ending
... *Face Palm* Look, I don't even plan on anyone becoming a godlike being. Heck, I plan to end things by the third timeline. Happy ending my sagging, wrinkly, old-man anus, I's keepin' things Original Flavor, not some sickeningly contrived BS ending, happy or downer.

[up]x5 Nothing be impossible with The Pink One.

[up]x4 As would I. smile

[up][up][up],[up][up] This folks. The difference between being Idealistic and being naive.

edited 7th Oct '12 8:15:21 PM by Ikiniks

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greedling Since: Feb, 2010
#35000: Oct 7th 2012 at 8:14:37 PM

[up]x3 Well it's Madoka in this scenario, but also that's kind of the point.

To some extent there are ways in which a golden ending would make some things easier, but also the burden you take by choosing to do that is insane. It'd be like trying to play God, only in this case she didn't become a god.

(Madoka can't even sacrifice her life to attempt to achieve a near-golden ending after a few iterations of Sayaka's funeral, I decided, because if things are going to be perfect, she can't subject her family to that, either.)

I think Homura's case probably could have been improved by caring a little more about others, though. Not to the extent that this Madoka would, but if Homura cared about them enough to, er, not actively antagonise them (at the very least), she might have had a better chance at achieving her main goal.

[up] What? When did I say that your ending would have to be the anime one?

edited 7th Oct '12 8:18:50 PM by greedling

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