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Kostya from Everywhere Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#9601: Jun 29th 2015 at 7:37:41 PM

Do the games ever give any indication of where Ridley is in the pirate hierarchy? Mother Brain is clearly in charge in Zero Mission and Super but when she's not around in Prime Ridley seems to take charge until Dark Samus comes and mind controls all the Space Pirates. They mention High Command several times which implies there's some kind of ruling council. Is Ridley on this council or is he just a field commander? On a related note the same applies to Kraid, Phantoon, and Draygon.

edit: I always imagined Ridley as a sadistic monster that takes pleasure in ruining worlds and killing innocents. He doesn't help the Pirates because he likes them. He does it because it gives him the opportunity to kill and eat more people. He also views Samus as Worthy Opponent.

edited 29th Jun '15 7:42:16 PM by Kostya

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9602: Jun 29th 2015 at 7:38:04 PM

I think we aren't meant to take the graphics of Ridley exploding in the 2D games completely literally.

...Draygon seems just like a big animal. It's the parent of the Evirs in Maridia.

Mind, Mother Brain can apparently mind control the wildlife of Zebes. That's a plotpoint. It's even what she was designed for. Her job was to monitor and control the planet Zebes and its ecology in order to keep it safe for the Chozo to live. The problem is that what she can make safe she can also make very very unsafe.

Phantoon is a ghost and can do what it wants.

Also, Ridley might not have exploded in the first Prime game. He gets blasted with lasers and falls off the Artifact Temple, but we don't see a body.

There's some sort of explosion and dust cloud, but that could just be from the force of something his size hitting the ground, or all the heavy artillery he's carrying going off.

He was probably mostly fine though.

edited 29th Jun '15 7:43:54 PM by unnoun

Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#9603: Jun 29th 2015 at 7:41:30 PM

Yeah, I don't think Phantoon is even associated with the pirates, statuary aside.

Kostya from Everywhere Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#9604: Jun 29th 2015 at 7:43:29 PM

[up]He probably has some connection to them if they built a statue with him on it. It wouldn't surprise me if he has a hidden agenda though.

edited 29th Jun '15 7:43:47 PM by Kostya

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9605: Jun 29th 2015 at 7:45:07 PM

I don't even know if that's a requirement.

Or who even built those statues.

I think he just likes broken-down haunted ships a lot.

If Samus had waited a week he'd have moved into the Orpheon.

Or he was already in the Wrecked Ship on Zebes at the time.

edited 29th Jun '15 7:46:00 PM by unnoun

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#9606: Jun 29th 2015 at 7:45:48 PM

My pet theory is that they found Phantoon and said "You know what would be hilarious? If the Hunter couldn't unlock the statue without killing that ghost over in that wrecked ship."

They didn't expect her to actually do it.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#9607: Jun 29th 2015 at 7:46:12 PM

"The reconstruction of geoform 187, code-named Ridley, was recently completed. After his defeat on Zebes, Command ordered a number of metagenetic improvements for him. Though aggressive, we were able to implement these changes in a cycle. The metamorphosis was painful, but quite successful in the end. Early tests indicate a drastic increase in strength, mobility, and offensive capability. Cybernetic modules and armor plating have been added as well. We believe our creation, now called Meta Ridley, will become the mainstay of our security force, a job he will certainly relish."

This is the scan that made me wonder if he's really the one in charge. Doesn't sound like he actually is.

Oh really when?
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#9608: Jun 29th 2015 at 7:46:52 PM

Are the statues much more than a game mechanic?

The official manga adaptation didn't mention them.

Although my personal hope is yes. I want to believe that Mother Brain can build doors POWERED BY SOULS

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9609: Jun 29th 2015 at 7:47:46 PM

I think Samus and Luigi should talk about ghostbusting sometime.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#9610: Jun 29th 2015 at 7:49:30 PM

I like to imagine Ridley is a scientist who believes in the Space Pirate mantra of research and experimentation. He loves tinkering with machines and messing with weird organics. But that's just what he does in his down time, as he's too busy in his other hobby of eating all who oppose him. The Pirates give him a lot of duties. Such is the fate of being a commander.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9611: Jun 29th 2015 at 7:52:13 PM

I'm vaguely curious what he was doing in the Phendrana Drifts.

Kostya from Everywhere Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#9612: Jun 29th 2015 at 7:53:44 PM

Probably hunting for food.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9613: Jun 29th 2015 at 7:55:30 PM

Do they not feed him?

What, can they not afford his rations?

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#9614: Jun 29th 2015 at 7:55:59 PM

He might prefer to hunt?

Like Rexie before she got too old for this shit

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Kostya from Everywhere Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#9615: Jun 29th 2015 at 7:56:34 PM

He'd probably do it for fun even if they gave him food.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#9616: Jun 29th 2015 at 7:58:42 PM

"But I want to go hunt"

"You're still missing half your body. Your skeleton won't be able to support your own weight for the next 3 weeks."

"That's it, somebody execute that guy."

"Sir, i'm the second highest ranking pirate here."

"I can still order someone to execute you."

TroPartner Since: Nov, 2014
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#9618: Jun 29th 2015 at 8:02:25 PM

Well, high ranking officer flew down to the planet from orbit, so, going to the main post of your force would be a quite sensible action.

Manga!Ridley was an utter asshole; going by that characterization, he'd keep fighting Samus out of revenge for being set on fire.

And, in any case, Clone!Ridley seemed to be aware of who Samus really was. I wouldn't rule out some sort of genetic memory mumbo-jumbo.

And IIRC Phantoon was an echo of Mother Brain's consciousness or something like that.

Kostya from Everywhere Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#9619: Jun 29th 2015 at 8:05:26 PM

[up]Ridley was flying away from the Space Pirate base on Phendrana. He was evidently already there and was leaving for some reason.

edited 29th Jun '15 8:05:38 PM by Kostya

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9620: Jun 29th 2015 at 8:07:35 PM

He seems to be heading to Tallon Overworld.

Either going to the Mines, or just napping by the Artifact Temple.

Kostya from Everywhere Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#9621: Jun 29th 2015 at 8:10:07 PM

The pirates must be really bad at searching for things if they couldn't spot Samus's ship in the Tallon Overworld.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9622: Jun 29th 2015 at 8:10:34 PM

I mean, they have Ridley and also Aerotroopers.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#9623: Jun 29th 2015 at 8:11:11 PM

Last time they messed with Samus' ship, she messed with their ship.

Its just not worth it.

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#9624: Jun 29th 2015 at 8:11:44 PM

At this point, I'm willing to say that the Space Pirates would be amazing cast for a sitcom.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9625: Jun 29th 2015 at 8:21:10 PM

...I still feel really bad for those poor Metroids in Echoes.


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