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OOZE Don't feed the plants! from Transsexual,Transylvania Since: Dec, 1969
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#1: Dec 5th 2010 at 9:48:34 PM

The antagonist in my story is basically an alien race where everyone is a Puppeteer Parasite. Everyone respects them (with a few exceptions), despite the fact that their very existence requires what basically ammounts to the death of humans, under a combined pretense of "a)They need to do it to survive," and "b)They're working on constructing an artificial unintelligent kind of host". The twist at the end that establishes them as more evil than they previously seemed is that they're NOT actually putting any research into artificial unintelligent hosts, because their intelligence derives from their host's intelligence, so by definition they cannot create an unintelligent host and remain an intelligent race.

Does this sound like a well-thought out, rounded antagonist?

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Mammalsauce Since: Mar, 2010
#2: Dec 5th 2010 at 10:41:34 PM

Sounds solid. Tossing them our prisoners would be a great way to get rid of society's undesirables. But the 'twist' doesn't sound like it would be impactful, because there's no way I could perceive a race of human parasites as anything but evil.

KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#3: Dec 6th 2010 at 2:37:13 AM

I don't agree. If you play up the Woobie-esque nature of being a parasitic organism, it can work just fine. Treat the entire race as more of a handicapped existence (you might need to ignore Unfortunate Implications by comparing them to the poor, the sick or the elderly just to make your point) and then at the end, establish that this is all by choice.

OOZE Don't feed the plants! from Transsexual,Transylvania Since: Dec, 1969
Don't feed the plants!
#4: Dec 6th 2010 at 7:20:07 AM

@Mammalsauce:It's not so much "They're evil" as "They're evil and they don't intend to stop. Ever."

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RalphCrown Short Hair from Next Door to Nowhere Since: Oct, 2010
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#5: Dec 6th 2010 at 8:49:17 AM

If I understand your idea correctly, the parasites are not normally intelligent. They have to take over a human host before they can do anything but eat and excrete. And (as usual) you can't remove the parasite without killing the host.

And the catch is that, once they have a host, they scheme to get more hosts. In other words, they try to propagate their own species. Is that evil or just instinctual? True, they lie about the artificial host thing, but if they told the truth, humans would wipe them out. They don't have to be completely evil, just dangerous and alien and liars.

Don't forget, the whole "Puppet Masters"/"Invasion of the Body Snatchers" meme took hold during the Red Scare. Anyone could be a Communist. Anyone!

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Carbonpillow Writer Since: Jul, 2010
#6: Dec 6th 2010 at 3:36:08 PM

Basically, the Yeerks if they didn't try to invade Earth all the time.

edited 6th Dec '10 3:36:27 PM by Carbonpillow

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colbertimposter Since: Dec, 1969
#7: Dec 6th 2010 at 3:37:12 PM

I think this antagonist motivation is interesting.

Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
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#8: Dec 11th 2010 at 10:29:49 PM

Do the hosts have to be intelligent yet or do they just need to have the potential? Because the parasites could latch onto fetuses, which is ethically much nicer.

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hhjhgjh Since: Dec, 1969
#9: Dec 15th 2010 at 8:43:32 AM

Do they by chance take over the smartest people in the world and use them to gain a foothold?

benj Since: Nov, -0001
#10: Dec 15th 2010 at 9:44:38 AM

Interesting premise.

I wonder if they would still seem sympathetic after the revelation. If taking over intelligent beings is their only way to survive then they are offered a choice between evil and death, which isn't a situation anyone wants to be in.

If they use the host's intelligence do they also pick up elements of the host's personality? Do they have access to the host's memories?

RTaco Since: Jul, 2009
#11: Dec 15th 2010 at 10:35:04 AM

Personally, I'd find them more interesting if they're not portrayed as villains.

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