Europa Universalis IV has me ever more convinced that the Netherlands are just a myth 
. It steadfastly refuses to form, with either the revolts getting crushed by whatever major owns the Low Countries or the area remaining a mish-mash of Dutch/Flemish/Walloon minors that fail to unite.
Hm. How much support can a power give to rebels in EUIV?
Because OTL, we know that part of the reason the Netherlands came into being was because of English support (though Elizabeth didn't actually want the revolt to go as far as it did; it succeeded far beyond her actual intentions).
I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.
Since the revolts are by event, none in this case.
Of course, none of that matters if the area is neither conquered from without nor unified from within.
edited 3rd Jul '15 2:57:08 AM by Balmung
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I've formed them in EUIII. They're not a myth at all.
Player accomplishments disprove nothing But seriously, humans will always be better at both achieving specific goals, and the game in general than the AI.
Forever Gorgeous
I've gotten a decent grasp on the basic mechanics. But while I'm no longer lost as to how to do shit, now...I'm kind of at a loss as to what I wanna do.
This game has so many damn options. It's also slow, so I need to be ready to commit to things. Should I just wait for the baby-machine to chug, and thus, nab claims that way, do I leave my diplomat to scheme to his hearts content, what should I spend my money on, and what are the right times to do this and that. It's so overwhelming.
Oh well...I restarted another Poland game to get better Council members. This time, I'm gonna attempt a long-term conquest on my next door neighbors. I'm going to attempt to either fabricate a claim on one of the weaker vassals, or chug out a fine baby to prime for marriage.
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Well, here's what I did earlier today: I accepted a personal challenge to create the Kingdom of Frisia (Netherlands) in CK 2 just because it would be fun. I chose the Duke of Holland, but knocked off the real one with a Diplomat built in the Ruler Creator. For the first fifteen years I strongly supported my liege, King Karl of Western Francia. I even became his Chancellor, which kept me out of his fights thankfully. I used diplomatic claims to nab my neighboring Duchy (thank god for level 20 Chancellors and their probabilities of snagging entire Duchy claims instead of just counties) and watched as my King, who I hoped would use his resources to be Emperor so I could move up the ladder to King of Frisia without gaining Independence first, pissed away everything by winning a claim war against Saxony and then getting embroiled in a massive Saxon rebellion afterward.
Idiot. I would have followed him to Hell if he'd enabled me to be King of Frisia under his protection, but when a four hundred man Independence Faction is a full fifth of your King's forces, and you can easily muster three thousand of your own, you know what you have to do. Plus I'd switched to Cathar to gain my King's good graces, and his heir was a Catholic. I either had to jump ship or show myself to be religiously unstable. I jumped ship. And the Independence revolt went off without a hitch. It took three years, but the King never mustered enough forces to overcome our five thousand troops.
Now I just have to stabilize my own realm, deal with handing out a Duchy, and I am free to move ahead. Probably going to claim Kent and use it as a potential launching point for creating a Cathar British Empire.
Protip for the new guy: You CAN take over other religions' land, but do it smart. My King waged a CLAIM war, which literally just replaced the old High Chief of Saxony with himself. It does nothing to any of the leaders under that banner. If you have the power to fend off the Pagans on their own soil, go with a Holy War. You take everything within the target lands, right down to the temples and cities. You can then replace the local leadership with people of your own faith and avoid having Lords fuel rebellions against you.
Barring the power to deal with a Holy War, you can be patient and forge claims on every bit of land owned by the enemy, then take them that way. It won't do anything against less-than-counts but those can be revoked bit by bit over time to avoid getting bogged down. Assuming there even are any less-than-counts. Pagans tend to be tribal, so there's only one settlement at all in any territories they own that aren't holy sites.
Oookay, so this is weird - my EUIV isn't just crashing on startup, it's not starting up at all. Trying to launch it results in the cursor showing it's loading for a second or two, then nothing. The only fix is total wipe (including document files) and reinstall, and even then it starts up for a minute then stops responding, before going back to not starting up. Hrm...
Haven't tried one of the betas yet, though. Here's hoping.
edited 5th Jul '15 5:55:13 PM by KnownUnknown
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Have you tried unsubscribing all mods, then deleting any downloaded mods?
That all you got?
Finally played a good bit of After The End after a week computer-less. I managed to conquer Manhattan from New England. With a powerful ally like Dietscherei (or however you spell the kingdom that's next to Hudsonia) I think I can do anything xD Maybe I can take two provinces from the Holy Columbian Confederacy before crushing Connecticut and forming Gotham, then from there driving up New England to conquer it.
It's almost 2800 though, I think that's when the British invade. I wonder how far they'll get.
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I haven't tried unsubscribing, though one of the issues I'm having is that the game refuses to download mods in general (I'm having the same problem with Civ V, though not with CKII) so I don't have any to delete off of my computer.
That all you got?
Okay, finally started a game in the vanilla area again. I chose Wessex and have conquered most of the south of the British Isles except for Kent and Cornwall. After I deal with those two I'll eat Essex, then the kingdom above it, then move on Mercia and then Northumbria, Wales, Scotland, and then invade Ireland so I can have Britannia as a competitor to the HRE when it's formed.
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Wait, what O/S are you running? I know I've had that issue with both EUIV and Civ5 mods on Linux and I had to upgrade to a newer version to run EUIV v1.12.
Windows 8.1
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Hmm... About the best further advice I can give is to ask here: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?forums/euiv-technical-support.812/
(if you can't access it, register your game on the Paradox forums with the "CD key" from Steam).
That all you got?
Wessex is now slowly but surely conquering the other Kingdoms around it. Cornwall and Kent fell through a combination of fabricated claims and usurping the crown of Kent, and I plan to go after Mercia once I'm done with down-to-one-province Essex and way-weaker-than-me East Anglia. Once Mercia's gone I'll go after the Welsh, then to Northumbria (starting with York since it's the biggest province they have) and then to Ireland before finally conquering the rest of the island. The only problem is I'd really like a blanket CB that would allow me to not have to chip away at everything over the course of decades.
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Unsubscribing from everything from the workshop worked - thanks a ton!
Now all I have to do is figure out how to get the game to recognize my exported CKII games as mods (they're the only mods I ever really use anyway)...
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
That all you got?
West Francia also became an empire out of Western and Middle Francia when they merged, but now it's splintering because France is on the upswing. Toledo also emerged in Spain so the Muslim sultanate that used to be there is more drastically weakened.
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Claim every county over time, then wage one big war for all of them. You can get a CB to press ALL claims at once, so just keep getting claims and go for each one.
That all you got?
Yeah, I've been trying to do that but even when I had a guy that had a skill level of 29 as Chancellor progress was still really slow >_< I prefer the EU 4 way of fabricating claims, where it's just a thing that goes up over time instead of a "it has this percent chance of working".
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@Known Unknown: Mods updated since 1.12.2 should work, and you could try depositing the converted CKII game files in the EUIV mods directory.
The final dev diary for Horse Lords is up, with the release coming up next week.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/weekly-dev-diary-9-events.868588/
Also a video is up explaining the DLC's features in more detail.
edited 7th Jul '15 7:13:36 AM by Rationalinsanity
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
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I'm not sure it's going to be a day one buy for me, but it's definitely something I want to grab.
I'm waiting for the patch notes and the bug reports to settle before I buy this one.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
In which I'm slightly disappointed that there's no way to, after making someone Royal Food Taster, plot to poison the Taster then claim it was an assassination attempt on your life, framing a third party for the crime (whom you can then try to imprison).
Though at least Food Tasters get a plot in the opposite direction.
edited 1st Jul '15 1:58:54 PM by KnownUnknown
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.