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KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
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#7301: Apr 16th 2013 at 11:26:53 PM

Even when you have to take a leak?

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
OhnoaBear I'm back, baby. from Exiting, pursued by a... Since: Jan, 2011
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#7302: Apr 16th 2013 at 11:49:34 PM

[up] Quite honestly? Yes. Though I also physically lock my computer. With a lock.

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UltimatelySubjective Conceptually Frameworked from Once, not long ago Since: Jun, 2011
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#7303: Apr 17th 2013 at 12:11:42 AM

I would probably have that problem. With my eminently more steal-able phone.

Well, it's always logged in to Facebook and emails anyway.

"Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri, quo me cumque rapit tempestas, deferor hospes."
Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#7304: Apr 17th 2013 at 12:52:28 AM

I took the trouble of deleting my smartphone's email accounts other than the passworded Hotmail app one when I noticed the basic Mail app didn't allow not saving the password.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Brickman Gentleman Adventurer! from wherever adventure takes me Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: My own grandpa
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#7305: Apr 17th 2013 at 4:08:51 AM

First off, my email's got its own password, so if someone steals my phone they ONLY get my email. Second off, I have a desktop rather than a laptop and still don't stay logged in to anything financially or save such passwords. Third, the strip is still hilarious.

((Although of course what he's ignoring is that that's not the real reason the whole "admin account for installing things" to exists—it's not there to protect you, it's there to allow the IT department to stop the masses from wrecking their computers and installing viruses. I assume.))

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FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#7306: Apr 17th 2013 at 4:13:57 AM

FWIW, there are the options of either having a password on BIOS (which is still potentially bypassable by draining the CMOS battery) or going whole-hog with an encrypted harddrive. But yeah, most of us aren't going to go nearly that far. Heck, I have a hard time using separate password for the various important services...

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#7307: Apr 17th 2013 at 5:02:45 AM

if someone steals my phone they ONLY get my email
And with it, possibly your passwords to some websites. Getting your e-mail is very dangerous.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#7308: Apr 17th 2013 at 5:11:07 AM

The best security yet is not to store personal identifying information like your social security number or your bank account numbers on your PC. Just assume that someone is going to get your account ID, sooner or later, and work from there.

AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ from Singapore Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#7309: Apr 17th 2013 at 5:50:44 AM

That kind of stuff is best kept offline anyways :V

I don't really care too much if someone breaks into my Yahoo! mailbox for the fourth time, I already have my Gmail account set with a different password.

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#7310: Apr 17th 2013 at 6:36:44 AM

If someone has physical access to your computer, you have to assume that they could break any security that you have in place. There are things you can do to make it harder, but the enemy of security is time. Locking your screen before leaving it alone is a stopgap; it deters casual intrusion but not anyone serious about it.

The thing about requiring an admin password to modify your computer settings isn't for anti-hacker security; it's about stopping technophobes from accidentally uninstalling their operating system and stuff like that. It can also be a safeguard against external intrusion (email viruses and crap like that), but not physical access.

edited 17th Apr '13 6:38:18 AM by Fighteer

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KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
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#7311: Apr 17th 2013 at 6:39:07 AM

Long story short, if they can steal your device (and they're determined enough to actually do it), you're boned.

edited 17th Apr '13 6:39:23 AM by KylerThatch

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
UltimatelySubjective Conceptually Frameworked from Once, not long ago Since: Jun, 2011
Conceptually Frameworked
#7312: Apr 17th 2013 at 6:54:55 AM

Though I would note that some peoples' credit cards and wallets wouldn't be harder to steal and raid than their computers and phones.

Certainly know which ones I'm more attached to.

edited 17th Apr '13 7:30:18 AM by UltimatelySubjective

"Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri, quo me cumque rapit tempestas, deferor hospes."
FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#7313: Apr 17th 2013 at 7:02:47 AM

And, as pointed out in a previous strip, lead pipes are a lot cheaper than super-computers when it comes to cracking passwords.

KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
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#7314: Apr 17th 2013 at 7:30:18 AM

You mean like "Either I break your account, or I break you"?

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
UltimatelySubjective Conceptually Frameworked from Once, not long ago Since: Jun, 2011
Conceptually Frameworked
#7315: Apr 17th 2013 at 7:33:16 AM

Security did touch on another aspect of computer security.

If they want your password then the weakest part of the system may be you.

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#7316: Apr 17th 2013 at 7:33:29 AM

[up][up]It's known in some circles as argumentum ad baculum.

[up] In any security system, the people are always the weakest link.

edited 17th Apr '13 7:35:00 AM by Fighteer

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petersohn from Earth, Solar System (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Hiding
#7317: Apr 17th 2013 at 8:06:07 AM

Many accounts can be broken by simply guessing the password. Simply because people like to choose passwords that they can remember easily. There were some xkcd scripts about this. Such as here and here.

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Shinziril Since: Feb, 2011
#7318: Apr 17th 2013 at 8:06:49 AM

[up][up]At the very least, if the people aren't the weakest link, you're doing something wrong.

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#7319: Apr 17th 2013 at 8:15:48 AM

[up][up][up]Or Rubber-hose cryptanalysis

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#7320: Apr 17th 2013 at 8:19:50 AM

Indeed. It'd be easy to keep the data safe if those pesky humans didn't want access to it again later.

Do you highlight everything looking for secret messages?
alethiophile Shadowed Philosopher from Ëa Since: Nov, 2009
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#7321: Apr 17th 2013 at 10:04:17 AM

The dichotomy between user and admin accounts is a relic of multi-user systems, and only particularly relevant on systems where multiple users actually log in. If you're actually fastidious about using an unprivileged account for normal use, then it might confer some extra security, but that's not a huge bonus.

And the thing about locking your screen is that (if implemented properly) it'll require the thief to shut down the computer and use a boot disk or something to get access, which wipes out passwords in memory. Of course, this is only actually useful if you use whole-disk encryption.

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petersohn from Earth, Solar System (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Hiding
#7322: Apr 17th 2013 at 10:13:57 AM

The real advantage of using non-privileged users on single user systems is that it protects better against malware, It doesn't prevent them getting on to your computer, but it prevents them getting themselves deep into the system, unless you unwittingly give them root privileges.

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#7323: Apr 17th 2013 at 10:22:53 AM

It prevents them from sneaking into your system at user level, yes. It can't do much about software exploits, though.

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