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MrLostman Viceroy from Polk Out forum Since: Jan, 2001
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#701: Sep 2nd 2009 at 9:15:23 PM


This post was thumped by the Shillelagh of Whackingness

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#702: Sep 2nd 2009 at 9:17:02 PM

Fair enough. I'll just ignore this thread then, I suppose.

Not like there's much point discussing a silly Stick-Figure Comic anyway tongue

edited 2nd Sep '09 9:17:30 PM by Tzetze

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FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#703: Sep 2nd 2009 at 10:17:08 PM

Yeah, Mr. Lostman has been dis-invited.

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Asher Since: Jul, 2014
#704: Sep 2nd 2009 at 10:35:45 PM

How come it is ok to have one opinion (xkcd is good), but not another opinion (xkcd is bad).

I put it to you all that by saying Mr. Lostman is wrong and should leave, you are ruining his enjoyment of criticizing xkcd, just as he ruins your enjoyment of praising xkcd.

Moral of the story is that if you never want to have a disagreement, never say anything. I don't start a thread called "Judaism, it's more than my religion: IT'S THE ONE TRUE RELIGION" because I don't want to have an argument. But if I did, it would be unreasonable of me to tell everyone who disagreed to shut up. If you say something, be prepared to have to defend it. Or are you all such delicate flowers that the slightest disharmony is too much to take?

edited 2nd Sep '09 10:38:19 PM by Asher

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#705: Sep 2nd 2009 at 10:39:02 PM

Don't give a hoot which way opinions go. One of those stomped posts up there was a long list of personal comments about individual tropers, the other was an instruction to another troper to "just shut up."

Opinions about xkcd didn't enter into it.

edited 2nd Sep '09 10:40:01 PM by FastEddie

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Inkblot Since: Jan, 2001
#706: Sep 2nd 2009 at 10:39:36 PM

LOL TROLL (right-click, select "View Image")

edited 2nd Sep '09 10:40:24 PM by Inkblot

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Asher Since: Jul, 2014
#707: Sep 2nd 2009 at 10:44:52 PM

Yes, I don't like xkcd. Internet Sherlock has discovered my opinion.

I wasn't referring to whatever post was deleted, just the general STFU sentiment here. Just thought it should be said.

As for me being a troll, that is probably true in the sense that I don't really care about furthering a happy discussion, I just want to fan the flames. But I believe my post holds true nonetheless.

Inkblot Since: Jan, 2001
#708: Sep 2nd 2009 at 10:58:29 PM

Actually, I kind of agree. While the thread wasn't a total circle-jerk, people were way too quick to call Mr. Lostman a troll.

edited 2nd Sep '09 11:04:03 PM by Inkblot

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#709: Sep 3rd 2009 at 12:54:40 AM

Yeah, they were kinda quick to judge. That whole post was actually pretty true, Asher. Geez, even when you're "fanning the "flames"" (double finger-quotes on "flames"), you still sound more civil than Lostman when he's going on about how offensively mediocre some comic was. tongue

Finger-quotes because nobody was actually offended. The only angry person was, well, Lostman. I think we don't actually have any big fans of xkcd, Lostman just seemed far too much like he's just pulling stuff out of his ass for criticism. Though yeah, the calling him out on it was a little too quick, but then again nobody took action until... he started offending other members and stuff or something? What did I miss, actually? I'm curious.

EDIT: Hey, if you want, I can take the role of the regular xkcd-critic. I can do that. tongue

edited 3rd Sep '09 12:58:37 AM by Fawriel

Lyanna Since: Jan, 2001
#710: Sep 3rd 2009 at 12:59:51 AM

How come it is ok to have one opinion (xkcd is good), but not another opinion (xkcd is bad).

If the people on this thread actually acted this way, I would have been chased off long ago. I found Mr Lostman's demeanor distasteful despite agreeing with some of his xkcd complaints.

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#711: Sep 3rd 2009 at 6:16:41 AM

It's fine to have an opinion about something and express it. It's quite another to attack other people who have opinions that differ from your own. We call that Fan Dumb.

Mr Lostman was welcome here until he crossed that line.

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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#712: Sep 3rd 2009 at 6:46:53 AM

Asher, I'm not sure what you and Mr. Lostman are trying to achieve. I'm pretty sure most people here never thought xkcd was anything like as great as Mr. Lostman seemed to think we did, but with his illogical statements and fan bashing, he only succeeded in making people defensive.

I don't see the point in reading something you hate that much, either. Much like "Twilight Sucks", "XKCD Sucks" seems to me like a collosal waste of time, sitting around reading and discussing something you hate when you could be out doing something productive or enjoyable.

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Sabbo from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#713: Sep 3rd 2009 at 8:08:59 AM

To be fair though, most of the people who say "Twilight sucks" haven't even read or watched it, unlike the "xkcd sucks" people.

But then, that's a whole 'nother problem.

JonnyAngel Since: Sep, 2009
#714: Sep 3rd 2009 at 8:22:03 AM

Snark Bait?

The way I figure it, reading XKCD (the unenjoyable part for these folks) takes up a minute at most, every 2 or 3 days. Making fun of XKCD (the enjoyable part) can last however long they want.

I mean, I'm no fan of xkcd OR xkcdsucks, but I can definitely see where the fun lies for these folks. Clearly their world is not entirely one of doom and gloom, or else they'd stop on their own volition.

Long story short, people spend time hating things because they enjoy hating them. This is not a convoluted concept.

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#715: Sep 3rd 2009 at 8:42:04 AM

XKCD is hit or miss. I enjoy the funny ones, I think the other ones are either head-scratchers or kinda lame. It's like just about every other webcomic I follow — and I have around 30 in my list.

It's not perfect, this is true. But a lot of Lostman's arguments were blatantly wrong, and some of them seemed to come from an opinion that fans thought of Randall as infallible.

We don't. He's a human being like the rest of us. Chill out! :p

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Asher Since: Jul, 2014
#716: Sep 3rd 2009 at 9:51:06 PM

Everyone is posting nice and reasonable. No fun. Bring back William Monty Hughes (IQ 224).

Inkblot Since: Jan, 2001
#717: Sep 3rd 2009 at 9:52:30 PM

They've declared "war" on us. Not sure if srs.

edited 3rd Sep '09 10:16:01 PM by Inkblot

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#718: Sep 3rd 2009 at 9:54:44 PM

I'm posting here again. Oh well.

This XKCD SUCKS vs. XKCD DOESN'T SUCK thing is so stupid. Seriously, guys, it's a comic, you really should relax.

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Inkblot Since: Jan, 2001
#719: Sep 3rd 2009 at 9:55:21 PM

WHO SAYS WE AREN'T RELAXED?! I'M RELAXED! TROLL! TROLL!

edited 3rd Sep '09 9:55:50 PM by Inkblot

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#720: Sep 3rd 2009 at 9:57:23 PM

CALLING ME A TROLL?! THAT'S AN AD HOMINEM ATTACK YOU SYCOPHANT

How many people actually read those dumb blogs? Are we going to get a flood or what? XKCD provided thousands of hits when it linked us back then... I think I'll monitor Incoming Links to see.

Whoa, we've got 6500 hits from Darths And Droids. That was unexpected.

  • 574 from the xkcd fora
  • 358 from xkcd
  • 2 from xkcdsucks

The end.

edited 3rd Sep '09 9:59:26 PM by Tzetze

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Zyxzy Embrace the mindscrew from Salem, OR Since: Jan, 2001
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#722: Sep 3rd 2009 at 10:37:13 PM

Then again, this thread is called "XKCD: It's more than a comic". I think that that title is just screaming for people like them to show up. Hopefully, that was the last we'll see of them.

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#723: Sep 4th 2009 at 1:59:58 AM

Well, the point of the original post was that xkcd is more than a comic because it has such a massive fanbase that actually does stuff, not because it ascended to some sort of higher plane of webcomic-ness. Though I guess that would still call up the anti-fans...

PS: Asher... you don't suppose that Willy224 dude is for real, do you? I sure hope not. ._.;

BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#724: Sep 4th 2009 at 3:48:49 AM

I don't think they're serious about this.

I don't get why they have to be such jerks about this, though. They don't like the comic. Some people do. Who cares?

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WilliamWideWeb (weaving) Since: Jan, 2001
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#725: Sep 4th 2009 at 5:58:50 AM

Because someone is WRONG on the internet!

SHIKI is dead.

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