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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#22476: Feb 11th 2016 at 10:09:36 AM

They don't not work, is my point.

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#22477: Feb 11th 2016 at 10:20:05 AM

Any situation in which it would actually be more worthwhile to gamble on a 30% accuracy attack than doing literally anything else is already a lost cause.

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#22478: Feb 11th 2016 at 10:29:18 AM

Not really. Smogon bans them for a reason. A lot of the time, one of your mons is setup fodder or otherwise unable to do much to whatever's in front of them — so, when you're in that situation, and switching is inadvisable (you're already at a 70% chance of giving it a free turn, so let's say you have no safe switchins), then a 30% of killing them for free is pretty dang good. There's also Focus Sash and Sturdy to consider. Not sure if anything gets Prankster OHKO, though.

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#22479: Feb 11th 2016 at 11:03:52 AM

Ah, fuck it, why not just run down this tangent.

The ban on OHKO moves in Pokemon is in some ways The Artifact from the competitive scene in Gen I, when their success rate was a function of the difference in speed. In several cases, this could be an even more lethal build than the crit machines built off Slash (Horn Drill Rapidash in particular was nasty - for that matter, so was Toxic Fire Spin Rapidash).

And to be fair, there is a scenario in which the OHKO move is the smart move - namely, you know you'll only get one last attack in, and no other attack could possibly hope to take out your opponent. That's pretty much the popular reason the OHKO ban is still in effect - it turns the entire prospect from a game of skill to a roll of the die (well, even more of one, speaking as someone who abuses flinch regularly).

There is one other scenario in which the OHKO moves are a viable selection, although that's more for Nintendo's now-preferred format of doubles battles - it's extremely easy to send out a combination that will create a OHKO Death Machine in a single round (pair a Smeargle holding a Focus Sash with Skill Swap and Sheer Cold out with anything with No Guard - Machamp with Wide Guard is an ideal choice, though Eviolite Doublade with Wide Guard is strangely feasible). Sure, it'll fail against the Focus Sash and any Sturdy users (and they laughed - laughed - when I used Shuckle), but that's still a lot of potential targets, and you can probably wipe out at least half of the teams out there with the combo.

That said, if we're applying Pokemon logic to the current fight, Spider-Fat looks like he'd be Bug/Dark, so just wailing away with a STAB Flying move (and don't tell me Tara isn't the type to have Brave Bird... though heck, even Aerial Ace seems like something she'd take) is clearly Tara's best move.

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#22480: Feb 11th 2016 at 12:20:52 PM

Going back to Tiger Eagle Guillotine: does the move kind of sound Narmy to anyone else?

It's the "Tiger Eagle". Like, I know Tara's a tiger eagle griffon thing but that should be normal to her. It's weird for her special attacks to classify her like that, as though she has other attacks that aren't Tiger Eagle moves or her fighting style is unusually adapted for Tiger Eagle purposes.

It's like if I had an attack called "Heterosexual White Guy Kick!" It raises the question: okay, so what are your other moves? Did you cross-class to Asian Lesbian Uppercut?

edited 11th Feb '16 12:21:26 PM by TobiasDrake

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#22481: Feb 11th 2016 at 12:28:44 PM

I think it would be more like "Hairless Stringy Ape Roundhouse!". She shouldn't have much reason to think of herself as a tiger eagle.

Plus, Asian Lesbian Uppercut is really unoptimized. Heterosexual White Guy Kick has a double Patriarchy bonus, which is far more effective in most of the Western world.

edited 11th Feb '16 12:29:48 PM by Ninety

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#22482: Feb 11th 2016 at 12:33:35 PM

[up][up]Nah man, you get one attack for every thing that you are. So you'd get Heterosexual Kick, White Punch and Dragon Slap, among others. In order to multiclass, you need one of the specialized labels first, like non-binary, agnostic or mixed heritage. Attacks that have multiple attached labels are generally stronger, as they're harder to qualify for and learn.

edited 11th Feb '16 12:35:56 PM by Gilphon

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#22483: Feb 11th 2016 at 12:42:03 PM

But then you just risk diluting too much. Agnostic-element attacks are way too passive.

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#22484: Feb 11th 2016 at 12:50:38 PM

Yeah, I definitely found myself laughing at the attack name. Calling your attacks is rarely done well.

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#22485: Feb 11th 2016 at 12:52:34 PM

Agnostic can work for certain builds- it's nice because it allows unlimited religions, so you can piece together some really crazy stuff if you know what you're doing.

And I don't know about Heterosexual White Guy Kick. The double patriarchy bonus is pretty sweet, but it also saddles you with a bunch of Privilege that makes it a huge pain in the ass if you're trying to keep Bigotry low. I've been favouring Introvert Glare, personally.

edited 11th Feb '16 12:56:00 PM by Gilphon

Elfive Since: May, 2009
#22486: Feb 11th 2016 at 12:55:35 PM

Named attacks work if the attack is absolutely mind-bogglingly epic.

For example

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#22487: Feb 11th 2016 at 12:58:30 PM

Or if you're supposed to laugh at them, such as this early gem.

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#22488: Feb 11th 2016 at 1:16:31 PM

Goddamn, we've come a long way.

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#22489: Feb 11th 2016 at 6:24:04 PM

And in some ways, we've stayed exactly the same. Anywho, I too was confused by the name guillotine, but I was more surprised that she was able to slash him in half with a single claw. I guess that's magic for you.

As for my classes, I wish I had optimized better. Who knew making Charisma your dump stat wasn't the best idea?

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#22490: Feb 11th 2016 at 7:37:00 PM

This is TVT, everyone picked Intelligence over Charisma.

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#22491: Feb 11th 2016 at 11:30:36 PM

We must have some sorcerers, surely.

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#22492: Feb 12th 2016 at 6:35:49 AM

Oh hai confidence Sarah and nude Ellen

So, in the comments I find out that A) Shive and I both grow older in less than a week and B) he is much younger than I thought. I thought he was much closer to 40 for some reason. Instead we're like 9 years apart.

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#22493: Feb 12th 2016 at 6:53:58 AM

Yeah, early EGS makes a lot of sense when you realise it was written by a teenager.

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#22494: Feb 12th 2016 at 7:16:38 AM

...

I have no words. I literally have no idea what to think about this moment.

EDIT: Well, I've managed to form one thought and that is that the flying dress concealing Grace!Sarah is exactly how the "naked people conveniently behind objects" gag is supposed to work. Instead of a fourth-wall breaking Censorship Bird, the dress is continuing to serve its purpose as an article of clothing even as it's lobbed through the air.

edited 12th Feb '16 7:19:30 AM by TobiasDrake

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#22495: Feb 12th 2016 at 7:21:11 AM

[up][up]yeah but only like, 19.

[up]I do and that comment is "where are your short shorts now?"

Yeah, but even writing and Visual gags is almost asking for to much.

edited 12th Feb '16 7:22:42 AM by MousaThe14

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#22496: Feb 12th 2016 at 7:49:04 AM

"where are your short shorts now?"
wild mass guessNext comic, they land onto Sarah!Grace's chest just as she had gotten rid of the dress.wild mass guess

edited 12th Feb '16 7:50:13 AM by Medinoc

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#22497: Feb 12th 2016 at 8:12:02 AM

[up]xsomething Wait, you post an example of mind-bogglingly epic Calling Your Attacks examples and you don't pick this? Also for some reason EGS is not working for me at the moment. Anyone else have this problem?

edited 12th Feb '16 8:12:53 AM by danime91

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#22498: Feb 12th 2016 at 8:18:11 AM

Clicking the posted link didn't work for me. I had to use my bookmark.

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#22499: Feb 12th 2016 at 8:18:55 AM

[up]Yeah, that's what it was. Weird for a link to break like that.

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#22500: Feb 12th 2016 at 8:43:51 AM

@22489 I don't think he's been slashed in half (at least, not yet). I thought that was just stylized to show that serious damage had been delivered. Also, she used three claws, not a single claw.

@22490 I don't recall having a choice in the matter.

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