Doctor Who

It's not weird, how often is religion actually a thing in the UK? It's just kinda there but never prominent when it comes to much of British culture.

We avoid the discussion of religion up here because there's assholes who will stab you to death for wearing the wrong brightly colored, football team-related t-shirt and blame it on religious grounds.

I'm not to picky about next companion, I'd just prefer it not be yet ANOTHER mid-20's British female from modern times that ends up getting a massive crush on The Doctor. Why not someone from another planet, another time period, something? Above all else... no, more, freaking, romances!

we haven't had a doctor/companion romance in literally six years

Amy tried to have a fling with the Doctor three episodes in but he Wasn't Having Any Of That. Also people who really want to assert the pattern will probably count River as being a companion since 2008.

I was just about to sleep

Then the whole thing with Clara.

River is actually the only one I didn't mind.

Oh boy oh boy did Moffat sneak a peek at my Christmas Wishlist?

Also, confirmation that Moffat is writing the 2017 Christmas special too.

No matter what the shippers told you, Word of God was that 12/Clara was platonic love.

Moffat's probably saited himself with exploring the Doctor as a romantic interest post Husbands.

Who knows about Chibnill, but that's two years off anyway.

Word of God did nothing of the sort, I'm pretty sure.

edited 29th Feb '16 6:03:40 PM by higherbrainpattern

Yeah, right. The way they acted towards each other? I freaking loathe shipping and hate pretty much any time any show tosses romance into the mix, and even I couldn't ignore the shear amount of UST there. Yeah they weren't actually in a relationship, but that was still way closer then normal. Just.. stop trying to freaking force the Companions into being this massive major thing in his life.

Maybe if it hadn't been for Clara being such a Creator's Pet in the first place. I just plain hated her overall.

how dare the doctor actually care for the people he takes across time and space on dangerous adventures

that's just bad storytelling, done to death, real rote stuff

and obviously means he wants to bone her, i mean, c'mon

edited 29th Feb '16 6:09:00 PM by Wackd

So Rakhee is a charity worker as well as an actress, also it was her birthday yesterday.

C'mon, Moffat, give her a job as a birthday gift!

Him caring is one thing, the shear levels they pushed it to there is another. Again maybe if it wasn't for the baggage Clara also had from all the "She is the most important, specialest person to ever exist who is tied more closely to the Doctor then anyone else ever and is so super awesome!" Stuff from her earlier seasons.

This, was just to much, and yeah they way over did things. Then there is nearly shattering time apart to undo their death, despite never doing that for any other companion. Even ones that it would have been so much easier to save.

(Like the Ponds. Seriously that still makes no freaking sense. So he can't go back to NYC at the particular time. Alright, why not pick them up a few years later anyway? Or just park the TARDIS in Boston and take a train into NYC to grab them?)

@higherbrainpattern "strange sort of platonic bond".

There was no romance between Clara and the Doctor?

Love, yes, but not romantic.

Also. I mean. I'm not sure I like the way you don't like Clara.

...Have you ever actually had a meaningful friendship in your life?

He literally worships them and the ground they walk on and has since Battlefield in 1989.

His companions are huge parts of his life, and they are all he remembers.

edited 29th Feb '16 6:32:23 PM by unnoun

Why on Earth shouldn't the people the Doctor travels with on a regular basis and regularly help him save the universe, or at the very least the Earth, be one of the most important parts of his life? What could be more important?

I haven't seen a whole lot of Classic Who, but if you ask me, the lack of focus and less than stellar departures that a lot of the companions got back then was a bug, not a feature.

edited 29th Feb '16 6:35:37 PM by KarkatTheDalek

I'm not saying they shouldn't matter, I'm saying the whole thing with Clara was massively overdone and propped her up WAY to far.

Moffat said that the Doctor was basically in love with Clara.

I still think Clara was sort of a Mary Sue sometimes. Just look at Listen. There's two things I hated about Listen: the boring sequences with Danny Pink (who, I should add, is now listed as the Scrappy like he deserves, because that guy was so damn dull it was a wonder I kept up with Series 8), and the twist where Clara more or less set the Doctor on the path to becoming the Doctor. I liked Listen overall, but even I cried foul at that part, because it was so fucking stupid.

Now, she was actually well written in other episodes. In Flatline, she was written pretty well and seemed to fit more what Moffat was intending to go with, which was a human slowly becoming the Doctor. It just feels like he really should have done a better job organizing all the ideas he wanted for the character and keep from shilling her like he did early on. Clara could have been a universally beloved companion with a couple rewrites.

edited 29th Feb '16 6:42:54 PM by AdricDePsycho

Anyway, on the subject of the Doctor doing too much for Clara.Like.

Part of the point of Clara's arc and the relationship and storyline between them was that they were good friends and really bad influences on each other, that drove each other to recklessness.

I mean, you ever know that one pair of friends that got along like a house on fire?

edited 29th Feb '16 6:46:24 PM by unnoun

That's my relationship with my best friend. We argue all the damn time and push our buttons really hard, but we still see each other as friends.

What the hell is it about female characters being called Mary Sues???? I hate that shit so much.