Doctor Who

I mean, it's not that annoying.

I haven't really noticed it, de geso.

"I mean, non-White people being inferior in some way is kind of a thing in racist rhetoric."

I can't see a reading of that in a way which doesn't suggest that non-whites being less intelligent than whites is racist.

edited 21st Oct '14 3:40:07 PM by MusikMaestro

Its a question of numbers I think.

When you have super british show which doesn't often poke its head into diversity and one coded chinese villain shows up and they're kind of naff I mean, you have to kind of squint and wonder.

edited 21st Oct '14 3:41:20 PM by Bocaj

   I hate you all.   

I mean, that seems a bit harsh.

(I'm mocking myself here, unnoun. Not you.)

Yeah, I think you're being unfair to Unnoun Wack'd, I mean, I use the term just as much as she does, and in fact I have even more verble tics on top of that anywho.

In other news, I'm trying to remember which Doctor Who story was set in Britain and had a cast of Monks in the background, the lead Monk being a white actor in yellow face, something which isn't commentated until the end when the character regenerates into an actor who is Asian and it explains he was only a white actor in yellow face because the character, the Time Lord, considered himself Asian even when he possed a non asian body?

It exists in the vague fogs of my early Doctor Who memory, along with 'Boy, the Sisterhood of Karn are terribly written and boring'

It's kinda weird that I was somehow under the impression only unnoun did that. Guess I haven't been paying close attention. Sorry, unnoun! You suck no more or less than the average person around here!

Are they the ones that cursed the Time Lords to be infertile?

Edit: No but their bossleader was the one that did.

edited 21st Oct '14 4:09:10 PM by Bocaj

And so Lungbarrow ruins yet another thing for me. -_-

Sorry.

If it makes you feel any better Karn only totally screwed up and let the phyrexians colonize a new-

wait, that's the wrong.

...okay, so apparently that bit isn't in Lungbarrow. Hrm.

That's not quite what I was saying.

Plenty of stereotypes about minorities are based around their perceived lack of intelligence or education.

I did say that, yes.

Wack'd provided some readings of that which don't suggest that.

I didn't even suggest that intelligence was the only measure of inferiority/superiority involved.

Also, what Bocaj said:

So.

I don't really know what you want me to say?

...I don't even remember.

The New Adventures were weird.

I'm glad Human Nature is getting a re-release.

Yay Space-Boats!

edited 21st Oct '14 5:51:54 PM by unnoun

I really don't want to hate the Sisterhood of Karn as a concept. Brain of Morbius is wonderful and a lot of that's down to Cynthia Grenville.

Brain Of Morbius is pretty great.

Sheer Poetry (The Brain of Morbius)

A Critique of the Gothic Seasons

...am I the only one who occasionally has trouble with which Doctor Who titles start with "The"?

Nope.

Definite articles are troublesome.

How does one have a the Doctor? Its weird. But nevertheless, one can have a the Doctor, especially in a multi-the Doctor story.

There's a part of me that wants someone to start calling the Doctor "The" so they can be on a first-name basis with him.

The Sisterhood of Karn are great as a concept; they can't help but be, ever since Macbeth the idea of a witch is brilliant and Marxist, in that you have an underclass of hated elderly women in hovels, and you give them the ability to ruin kingdoms.

Heck, in Macbeth they don't even do any magic; they just say semi plausible futures to drive a rut between two Lords swaggering about in the battle field which was once their home, and then later intoxicated one of them, it's almost plausible that there's nothing mystical about the witches of Macbeth, they are just the underclass exposing the ruling class for all it's faults. The Sisterhood of Karn reflects this quite well, and in Night of The Doctor out right went full Mac Beth in stating the power of an old woman who pulls you out of a wreckage; it's exactly powerful enough to destroy two god-like empires against the will of all those involved.

...Someone is going to need to explain this one to me.

Funny, I could have sword that the witches in Macbeth showed Macbeth some weird visions and what not. Maybe it was just the version I was reading.

edited 21st Oct '14 7:40:30 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Drugs.

Fun fact: The Oracle of Delphi was tripping ovaries every minute on the job.

Man, you really are everybody's aunt, aren't you?

I'm not my own aunt. That'd be weird.

...And, I mean. It's not like hallucinogens aren't an explanation for visions.