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This is the thread for discussion of The Order of the Stick plot, characters, etc. We have a separate thread for discussing game rules and mechanics. Excessive rules discussions here may be thumped as off-topic.

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edited 18th Sep '17 1:08:08 PM by Fighteer

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#35476: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:28:25 PM

....How would the gods KNOW this?

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#35477: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:28:42 PM

Well now. Now everything's come to light, and Hel's plan makes a lot more sense.

What was Hel's ill-concieved deal with Odin, anyway? Is there something in the original myths that would tell us?

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#35478: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:29:51 PM

... Oh, so I (and several others) was right about the catch about Hel getting all of the dwarves if the world was ended.

And I assume the demigods in question are the Stone guys Durkula vampirized, right?

Interesting that Loki apparently is Hel's father in this version too.

edited 27th Aug '15 8:33:33 PM by Hodor2

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#35479: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:31:33 PM

nope. The Stone guys don't have a god. Well, I guess they do now, but she's already voted. I hypothesized that already and was shot down.

[up][up]The plan is with Uncle Thor.

I'm guessing that their peoples constantly wage war so that no dwarf dies in disgrace.

edited 27th Aug '15 8:32:46 PM by blkwhtrbbt

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#35480: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:34:59 PM

[up] Ooh, interesting. So sort of like a good guy version of the Odin/Loki scheme in American Gods

hazzaboner Nidoran needs love! from Sniper Land (your heart) Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Nidoran needs love!
#35481: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:37:09 PM

Remember how we thought strip 1000 would be another anti-climax?

So I'm a writer...
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#35482: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:39:00 PM

We were expecting Rich to adhere to tradition?

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#35483: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:39:38 PM

And Roy's going old school action hero, but Hel either has a plan for that as well, or just assumes it won't matter being a god and all.

Whatever the case, the feces has not only struck the air rotation device, but has also gotten three dimensional.

I'm so glad I stopped trying to figure out what her plan was. Made it more fun when she spelled it out, though in hindsight, maybe she shouldn't have bothered explaining it, but we'll see if that affects anything.

It's funny the other gods didn't consider that when they came up with this, but since she apparently wasn't invited in the first place (and has no cleric anyway), I suppose they didn't expect it to be an issue.

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billybobfred Cosine! from renamed to wingedcatgirl Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#35484: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:39:59 PM

The actual demigods would be voting through their priests, same as the full gods have been doing, so it wouldn't matter if their priests had been vamped, except to the extent that a vamped priest probably now counts as Hel's rather than their former god's and wouldn't participate in the tiebreaker at all.

I suppose that could be Hel's scheme; vamp all the priests of demigods she expects to vote no and let the ones she expects to vote yes go on and break the tie.

Of course, if Durkula gets dusted before they get into the room it doesn't matter. Dramatic tension!

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#35485: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:40:05 PM

Random thought- the High Priestess of Freyja looks either really happy or really turned on, maybe both.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#35486: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:42:03 PM

All the clerics do. Huh.

Anyway, I'm thinking- why not start Ragnarokr? The final battle? Watch Hel's epic plan unravel as the Dwarves enter a multi-million man melee to earn their way to their honorable deaths?

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#35487: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:47:29 PM

Sort of. You can kind of tell who the good and evil (and neutral) ones are based on their reactions. The High Priest of Fenrir doesn't look pleased.

Edit- Although, the High Priest of Loki has a pleased/friendly smile, and there's a decent chance he's evil.

edited 27th Aug '15 8:49:00 PM by Hodor2

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#35488: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:53:12 PM

Hoder's priest has her back turned. I'm guessing by the Prophet Eyes that she's blind?

WAIT

If Durkula dies in battle... Does that mean Hel doesn't get him back?

edited 27th Aug '15 8:59:14 PM by blkwhtrbbt

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#35489: Aug 27th 2015 at 9:05:13 PM

Yes. Although I think if he dies in battle, his soul would be destroyed, so it's kind of a moot point.

My understanding is that when you kill a vampire, the original soul goes to the afterlife they earned from life and the demon possessing them ceases to exist.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#35491: Aug 27th 2015 at 9:05:54 PM

If Durkula dies here, doesn't that break the prophecy that Durkon will cause destruction to the dwarven lands when he returns?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#35492: Aug 27th 2015 at 9:09:17 PM

Considering what's going on right now (aren't they either close to the Dwarves lands or actually in them right now?), I think he's already fulfilling the prophecy.

Even if it's technically not him doing it.

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#35493: Aug 27th 2015 at 9:09:57 PM

I don't think he will die here.

If the world was destroyed (which it won't be), then the prophesy would technically be fulfilled because he brought death and destruction to his homeland (as well as everywhere else).

I think it's more likely he'll escape to there and destroy the final Gate.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#35494: Aug 27th 2015 at 9:10:32 PM

yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#35495: Aug 27th 2015 at 9:12:21 PM

There wouldn't be a "glorious battle" if the Gods vote to end the world. It would be "go directly to the afterlife, do not pass Go, do not collect 200 honor."

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
LMage Scion of the Dragon from Miss Robichaux's Academy Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Scion of the Dragon
#35496: Aug 27th 2015 at 9:17:33 PM

Note: The Demigod Clerics don't vote, their dieties do.

...Which means they share Hel's grievances with the greater Gods. Smart.

"You are never taller then when standing up for yourself"
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#35497: Aug 27th 2015 at 9:18:29 PM

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#35498: Aug 27th 2015 at 9:20:37 PM

Also fun fact: Roy still doesn't know that's not Durkon in there. So if he "kills" Durkula, then has him raised, all before finding out what vampires are like...he's going to be incredibly suspicious if Durkon tells him about the HPH.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#35499: Aug 27th 2015 at 9:22:07 PM

Well, whatever happens next you can bet.....

~Puts on shades~cool

....There's gonna be Hel to pay!evil grin

edited 27th Aug '15 9:23:28 PM by HandsomeRob

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Michael So that's what this does Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
So that's what this does
#35500: Aug 27th 2015 at 10:07:40 PM

Any bets on whether the rules prevent a cleric buffing a bodyguard who is attacking their own cleric?

Loki, this may be your cue.


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