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EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#23776: Apr 23rd 2016 at 4:09:39 AM

I bring it up every so often.

And Tony is a really good example. I remember how we were all in the words of another user, "Fuck Tony" before and now it's "Fuck, Tony..."

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#23777: Apr 23rd 2016 at 5:22:20 AM

[up]Hey, I still think he's an outright jackass. That's not changed, even if the emphasis is on different parts of the whole idiot-prick package.

hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#23778: Apr 23rd 2016 at 8:04:49 AM

wild mass guess Tony will get a sacrificial redemption when little Annie orphans herself.

"Show us the Galaxy Warp."
EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#23779: Apr 23rd 2016 at 8:07:22 AM

I still think Tony should pay for what he has done. Just like I think Coyote should eventually be faced with karma for what he has done.

hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#23780: Apr 23rd 2016 at 8:12:29 AM

So Coyote Annie will swing her scythe but Tony will push the defeated Kat out of the way. The shock frees her of the possession and they have that father daughter talk hand in hand posthumously.

"Show us the Galaxy Warp."
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#23781: Apr 23rd 2016 at 8:17:44 AM

Tony is already paying for what he's done. What more can you do to him that won't also hurt Annie? Serious question.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#23782: Apr 23rd 2016 at 8:51:50 AM

Totally excise him from Annie's life.

hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#23783: Apr 23rd 2016 at 9:14:03 AM

wild mass guess Annie will receive from her father in death the closure he never gave her in life.

"Show us the Galaxy Warp."
rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#23784: Apr 23rd 2016 at 8:47:32 PM

[up][up]I am skeptical that totally excising her remaining parent from her life wouldn't cause Annie distress.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#23785: Apr 23rd 2016 at 8:51:11 PM

Nah, she has way better father figures who aren't shits.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#23786: Apr 23rd 2016 at 8:56:33 PM

yes but this is her actual father

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#23787: Apr 23rd 2016 at 10:03:03 PM

[up][up]Yes, but she gives a shit about Tony. That's the whole reason his staggering emotional incompetence has been fucking her up the way it has. If she could just decide that he was a dingus and she wasn't going to feel a personal connection to him, his dingusosity would be about as big an issue as, say, early Winsbury's.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#23788: Apr 23rd 2016 at 10:17:30 PM

Right, that's why the ideal endgame is Annie coming to terms with this and doing the excising.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#23789: Apr 24th 2016 at 6:33:04 AM

Are we still talking from a 'make Tony suffer' standpoint? Because he agrees that he shouldn't be part of her life, so he wouldn't be hurt by that.

hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#23790: Apr 24th 2016 at 7:57:36 AM

wild mass guess Tony's life shall flash before Annie eyes as she's escorting his soul.

"Show us the Galaxy Warp."
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#23791: Apr 24th 2016 at 8:03:49 AM

[up][up]I thinking more of a "there should be consequences for his actions" thing rather than "specifically he should tread on hot coals barefoot" thing.

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#23792: Apr 24th 2016 at 8:21:45 PM

I really just see Tony as a broken shell of a man who almost killed his daughter and doesn't know how to properly atone for that.

As for Annie's cheating, he was legit about that. She was cheating and she got off easy.

As for the rest of her situation, isn't that Court Ordered... by the Court heads who got tired of Annie being a factor they couldn't control?

"Either you get your daughter in line or we kick her out and banish her from her friends" was their reasoning I believe.

edited 24th Apr '16 8:22:36 PM by EchoingSilence

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#23793: Apr 24th 2016 at 8:45:20 PM

It's not necessarily what he did that was wrong, but how he did it. He didn't get in contact with her before arriving. He didn't explain why he was back. He kicked her out of the class for doing something that reminded them both of her mother. He publicly shamed her. Finally, he probably doesn't even realize any of that was wrong, which is just as bad. No words of greeting, explanation for his actions, no meaningful interaction afterward, nothing.

I don't really want to see him punished anymore than he already was and is still being punished, but there were better ways he could have handled that if he wasn't a Tonybot with buggy emotional software installed.

edited 24th Apr '16 8:46:08 PM by Arha

googlebot Herald of Endless Research. from The misty Albion Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Herald of Endless Research.
#23794: Apr 25th 2016 at 12:36:00 AM

1662

“You can’t be an important and life-changing presence for some people without also being a joke and embarrassment to others.” -Mark Manson.
Adannor Since: May, 2010
#23795: Apr 25th 2016 at 12:47:39 AM

...Are those guys robots inside hazmat suits?

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
Geoduck Since: Jan, 2001
#23798: Apr 25th 2016 at 2:59:22 AM

It actually makes a sort of sense, considering that Coyote tried to smuggle in a seed when he came to meet with the Headmaster.

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#23799: Apr 25th 2016 at 3:35:42 AM

And if Coyote is smuggling anything. It can't be good.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#23800: Apr 25th 2016 at 6:35:46 AM

Did Smitty just call the Fairy Snuffle?


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