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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#145651: Nov 28th 2017 at 3:49:28 PM

Bolt is not his dad and his story shouldn't be a copy and paste of his dads, which is what you want with these powerlevel villains which are the worse and completely ruin the stakes of the fights. Small scale conflicts is how things should start before working their way up precisely because it emphasizes how the world is different from Narutos time. A fact the Kages literally discussed. When it comes time for those threats the next generation can handle it but they should also enjoy the time of peace.

Something the show has been doing very well as it also gives the other kids focus. A problem with Naruto is that it had too large a cast and not enough time of focus, which is not a problem with Bolt because the anime is just as canon as the manga.

edited 28th Nov '17 3:51:18 PM by OmegaRadiance

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#145652: Nov 28th 2017 at 3:49:48 PM

Its definitely a benefit. Its all been scaled down to manageable ninja threats.

Like back to the Zabuza Arc right?

Its how ninjas should fight.

[up] Well we are definitely getting a mega threat in prolly several years. That guy from the prologue whoever he is.

edited 28th Nov '17 3:50:56 PM by slimcoder

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#145653: Nov 28th 2017 at 3:52:14 PM

We'll have Boruto Okutsuki villain No.3 before Kawaki most likely.

edited 28th Nov '17 3:52:32 PM by OmegaRadiance

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#145654: Nov 28th 2017 at 4:07:57 PM

I wouldn't mind it being smaller scale fights if A. it was dangerous and B. the main cast weren't armed to the teeth. Seriously, as soon as you give them a guy with Sage Mode small scale fights stop having any stakes at all.

edited 28th Nov '17 4:08:31 PM by Sigilbreaker26

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#145655: Nov 28th 2017 at 4:09:50 PM

But they are dangerous even if the cast is armed & trained.

Even then I don't think Mitsuki can control his Sage mode.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#145656: Nov 28th 2017 at 4:10:58 PM

Mitsuki has yet to use it in a fight, and has preferred normal techniques. Plus against Samehada Chakra gets drained so activating such a mode would be harder.

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#145657: Nov 28th 2017 at 4:20:11 PM

Yeah, Shizuma had Mitsuki on the ropes a few episodes ago didn't he?

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#145658: Nov 28th 2017 at 4:24:51 PM

Even imperfect sage mode is extremely dangerous. Jiraya only had imperfect sage mode and he was very dangerous.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#145659: Nov 28th 2017 at 4:26:37 PM

Jiraya was a decades old highly trained warrior.

Mistuki on the other hand is a lab experiment only a few years old.

They are worlds apart to be compared.

edited 28th Nov '17 4:27:08 PM by slimcoder

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#145660: Nov 28th 2017 at 4:36:16 PM

Maybe, but it's like sticking Goten with Super Saiyan in the OG dragonball arcs. Yeah, he's a chump experience wise, but he's about 4 Next Tier Power Ups ahead of anyone else.

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#145661: Nov 28th 2017 at 5:21:50 PM

It's nothing like that. Mitsuki's power level isn't so far above even his peers.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#145662: Nov 28th 2017 at 5:39:33 PM

He isn't?

Granted, I have to start watching again, but I was under the impression that he was just beyond all of his classmates? Boruto and Sarada included?

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#145663: Nov 28th 2017 at 5:44:17 PM

He definitely outstrips all of them the only debate is by how much and I say "a hell of a lot". We only know about 5-7 guys who've mastered Sage Mode at all. It's the one ability you basically can't cheat your way into getting.

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#145664: Nov 28th 2017 at 5:45:28 PM

[up][up] Not 'Goten in Dragon Ball' levels, no.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#145665: Nov 28th 2017 at 5:49:25 PM

He can punch someone with just the invisible aura around him; all his physical abilities are increased significantly; his sensory abilities receive a massive boost; and he gets access to the various Sage Art versions of Jutsu. Only the latter requires significant extra training beyond what it takes to get to Sage Mode at all.

edited 28th Nov '17 5:50:15 PM by Sigilbreaker26

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#145666: Nov 28th 2017 at 5:50:05 PM

He can't just (snaps fingers) access it just like that though.

edited 28th Nov '17 5:50:32 PM by slimcoder

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#145667: Nov 28th 2017 at 5:53:00 PM

Correct, it requires a bit of prep time but still the enemies that pose a threat to a Sage Mode user - even a noobish one - are the sorts of enemies that would squish Boruto and Sarada easily and vice versa, the appropriate enemies for them to be fighting at this time don't really pose much of a hassle for Mitsuki if he's able to get a little prep time in.

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#145668: Nov 28th 2017 at 7:05:14 PM

Good point.

Has he used Sage Mode in the anime yet? I know they have to get to Momoshiki and friends first, but was just wondering.

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#145669: Nov 28th 2017 at 8:57:09 PM

I'm actually not sure Mitsuki has the conscious ability to wield Sage Mode.

Also the ability to wield senjutsu chakra as an invisible extension of taijutsu is a specific technique in the Frog Kata, as far as we know other Sages cannot do so.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#145670: Nov 28th 2017 at 9:12:47 PM

That's right, don't Snake Sages get the inorganic reincarnation thing that Kabuto used instead where he merged with a cave? Or was that just a Sage Art?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#145671: Nov 28th 2017 at 9:13:56 PM

I'll assume Sage Art. Kabuto looked like he had it for some time.

So it wouldn't really be much of a boost if he has no idea what it does.

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#145672: Nov 28th 2017 at 9:15:20 PM

It was a Sage Art. Also, since it happens by infusing natural chakra, it's probably one of those things that only he can do really well due to being the ULTIMATE CHIMERA.

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#145673: Nov 28th 2017 at 9:17:44 PM

Looked it up on the Naruto wiki, it looks like it's both a sage art *and* it's Snake Sage only. As for Kabuto being the ultimate chimera/ six health bars OP That One Boss that only helped him maintain Sage Mode permanently since he used Jugo's cells to constantly inhale natural energy without having to meditate.

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#145674: Nov 28th 2017 at 9:30:56 PM

Right, the jutsu uses natural energy directly. It's probably like with Naruto's original Sage Rasenshurikens - the chakra cost is so huge that it's borderline impractical to use while still maintaining Sage Mode.

I just assumed that unless otherwise mentioned, any named Sage Art was exclusive to the animal of the user.

edited 28th Nov '17 9:31:56 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#145675: Nov 28th 2017 at 9:33:03 PM

So its not that much of game-breaker really.

If Mistuki can refine it sure but if he can't actually use it then its not worth much.

edited 28th Nov '17 9:33:10 PM by slimcoder

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