History YMMV / VeronicaMars

** The Season One episode "You Think You Know Somebody" features an associate named Roger played by Creator/RyanDrummond, more known for voicing Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure in]] [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 the]] [[Platform/SegaDreamcast Dreamcast]] [[VideoGame/SonicHeroes era]]. This is combines with HilariousInHindsight as [[Creator/RogerCraigSmith an actor named Roger]] would eventually take up the role of voicing Sonic.

** The Season One episode "You Think You Know Somebody" features an associate named Roger played by Creator/RyanDrummond, more known for voicing Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure in]] [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 the]] [[Platform/SegaDreamcast Dreamcast]] [[VideoGame/SonicHeroes era]].

** The Season One episode "You Think You Know Somebody" features an associate named Roger played by Creator/RyanDrummond, more known for voicing Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure in]] [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 the]] [[UsefulNotes/SegaDreamcast Dreamcast]] [[VideoGame/SonicHeroes era]].

** The writers did intend for [[spoiler:Cassidy]] to be a likable character up until the climactic scene in "Not Pictured", however. And interestingly, the scene in which he is [[EvilIsSexy revealed to be evil]] is even a ShirtlessScene.

* HesJustHiding: Good luck finding a significant portion of the fanbase eager to accept that [[spoiler:Logan]] is really dead after season 4.

** [[GeniusBruiser Clarence Wiedman]] is the head of security for Kane Enterprises and TheFixer for the Kane family in general. Wiedman helps the Kanes cover up the murder of Lily Kane when they believe their son Duncan to have accidentally killed his sister, tampering with the crime scene and paying off a terminaly ill Kane employee, Abel Koontz, to take the blame for the murder and repeatedly scuttling Veronica's private investigation into her friend's death. Wiedman also moonlights as an [[ProfessionalKiller assassin]] for the Kanes, tracking down and killing the boyfriend who murdered Koontz's daughter after she tried to extort more money from the Kanes at the boyfriend's behest, and on Duncan's order, executing the despicable Aaron Echolls for his murder of Lily. A very dangerous man who is only loyal to his employers, Wiedman can easily match wits with Veronica herself.

* MagnificentBastard: Clyde Prickett is an [[AffablyEvil amiable]] ex-convict who used to rob banks without actually using a gun. Sentenced to ten years for racketeering, Clyde pays off some other inmates to threaten the recently imprisoned real estate mogul [[CorruptCorporateExecutive "Big" Dick Casablancas Sr.]], so Clyde can offer him "protection" in exchange for getting a job at Dick's company out of prison. Clyde becomes Dick's highly efficient [[TheFixer Fixer]], as well as engaging in some extralegal activities by paying the PCH biker gang to increase petty crime across Neptune to drive down real estate prices, which are then bought up through shell companies owned by Casablancas. Clyde becomes unlikely friends with Keith Mars, even as Clyde becomes a major suspect in the spring break bombings. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Disgusted with Dick's involvement with the bombings]], which Clyde had been kept out of the loop on, and worried that he won't keep his promises to Clyde, he arranges his death by selling Dick out to the Mexican cartel. Clyde gets away scott-free, ending his friendship with Keith on reasonably amicable terms, and starting a classic car shop.

** The last time we saw Dick and Big Dick, they were fighting over [[spoiler:Beaver's mass murder and suicide]], which Dick apparently unable to forgive himself or his dad. By Season 4, Dick seemed no different than he had prior to the revelations, and he and his father had a good relationship, with [[spoiler:Beaver]] only mentioned offhandedly once, without reference to ''everything else'' that happened during that arc. Admittedly, this is several years later, so they may have worked through most of their grief. [[spoiler:One can only imagine what Dick's reaction will be when he learns his father was ''decapitated''...]]

** The last time we saw Dick and Big Dick, they were fighting over [[spoiler:Beaver's mass murder and suicide]], which Dick apparently unable to forgive himself or his dad. By Season 4 (admittedly several years later), Dick seemed no different than he had prior to the revelations, and he and his father had a good relationship, with [[spoiler:Beaver]] only mentioned offhandedly once, without reference to ''everything else'' that happened during that arc.

* AssPull: Logan becoming a US Air Force officer makes absolutely zero sense.

* IdiotPlot:
** Season one ends with Veronica finding the tapes that implicate [[spoiler:Aaron Echolls]] and then, rather than immediately going to one of the many state troopers who would certainly have been present in the house, since the governor was attending a party there, she drives away all by herself [[spoiler:except for the full-grown man she somehow managed to avoid noticing hiding in the backseat of her Chrysler [=LeBaron=].]] (The entire last third of that episode was more like a horror movie than a detective show, complete with a MadeOfIron BigBad.)
** Aaron's [[spoiler:acquittal]] in Season 2. The TruthInTelevision of [[spoiler:a rich, powerful man getting away with his violent crimes against a teenage girl]] is a clear example of ValuesResonance, but there is a lot of HollywoodLaw combined with ContrivedCoincidence that makes it truly qualify as one of these: Veronica is discredited solely by the value of having an STD, Leo gives the sex tapes to Logan who ''destroys them'' despite them being the best piece of evidence as to what a monster his abusive father is, Keith (who has absolute trust in law and order) violently attacks the lawyer while testifying, the lawyer's ridiculous amount of hearsay and badgering witnesses that resulted in this, Kendall being not just a ManipulativeBitch but also being willing to commit the federal crime of planting Duncan's DNA on the Oscar statue, makes it qualify as one.
** In the third season finale, she singlehandedly went after a very powerful organization with absolutely no regard for the consequences. She doesn't even check for security while ''breaking into their mansion headquarters'' so of course she gets caught on tape. When another character states she just made some powerful enemies, she just {{handwave}}s it away with "It wouldn't be the first time." No, you idiot: This time you pissed off the kind of people who can make you disappear and the fact that this is America ''isn't going to save you''. At the end of the episode, the head of the organization states quite clearly to a shocked Veronica (who literally thought she had won) that he's decided to make her life a living Hell because he ''knows'' she's responsible. He does.

* RelationshipWritingFumble: Keith and Alicia's relationship just sort of...fades, with her not appearing through almost all of season 2, then showing up in the finale with no mention of it. Then she's gone completely in season 3, and Keith is clearly single. It's easy to FanWank that they weren't able to get past the reveal about [[spoiler:Wallace's father]], but would it have been asking too much to see them break up onscreen?

* BetterOnDVD: Especially season three, if only because the [[ProductPlacement Aerie]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68jBXIi4P9w Girls]] and obnoxious CW teases were nowhere to be found.

* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy:
** The pilot goes a wee bit overboard in dumping the weight of the world on Veronica. Thankfully, it lightens up a bit afterwards.
** Season 2 is ''very'' dark, the finale especially. [[spoiler:Woody Goodman is a pedophile and serial rapist of children, Cassidy blows up his plane after revealing himself as the bus bomber and one of Woody's victims, Veronica learns that she was raped by Cassidy and that was how she contracted chlamydia, Mac is left totally broken and in despair, which led many viewers to assume that Cassidy had raped her.]]
** The movie can suffer from this. As one fan put it, "Every minor and secondary character I've ever really grown to like has turned out evil, dead, or both."

* FoeYay: Logan/Weevil, Veronica/Lamb, Keith/Lamb, Kendall/Cassidy (which edges on text in "The Quick and The Wed"). Technically text with [[spoiler:Veronica and Cassidy]], on his part at least, what with [[spoiler:the rape]] and all.

** For examples that can also cross into FoeYay depending on your interpretation; Logan/Weevil, Logan/Duncan, Logan/Lamb.

* FunnyAneurysmMoment:
** In the penultimate episode of season 2, Weevil jokes to Cassidy (who is helping him with algebra, long story): "If this is your idea of terms I'll understand? I'm going to kill you. Or myself. It's a toss up." One episode later, [[spoiler:Cassidy commits suicide.]]
** Dick manages to give two painful [=FAMs=] in one episode ("Ain't No Magic Mountain High Enough"), first by being [[spoiler:[[BigBad Cassidy's]] brother]] and ripping into Jackie, because she's [[RedHerring Terrence's]] daughter. Second, he mocks Mac and Cassidy by asking her "You gonna pop his cherry? 'Cause you gotta take it easy. Don't go busting out any tricks, you don't want to spook him. Just take it gentle and slow," [[spoiler:not knowing about the sexual abuse Cassidy has suffered. And inflicted.]]
** There are ''tons'' of this with Dick in general, especially his innuendos about Beaver's perceived lack of masculinity and virginity, which qualifies on two levels: [[spoiler:1. he raped Veronica; 2. he was himself a victim of sexual abuse and a lot of his motive comes from trying to hide it.]]
** Season 1's "Like A Virgin" features someone pretending to be Veronica sending an email to Duncan, saying she had VD when they were dating. Late in season 2 it is revealed [[spoiler:Veronica has chlamydia... which she contracted being raped by Beaver, on the same night she slept with Duncan]]. It sucks to be Veronica.
** Also in "Like A Virgin", the plot becomes darker when you realise [[spoiler:just how bad [[AbusiveParents Meg's]] [[HolierThanThou parents]] really would have taken it.]]
** There's the rather odd discussion of Chlamydia/Crazy Bitchy Teacher between Veronica, Gia and Dick, which is a bit uncomfortable to watch given [[spoiler:Veronica got chlamydia being raped by Dick's brother, who got it being molested by Gia's father.]]
** S1E4 "The Wrath of Con" sees Veronica flashing bqck to last year's homecoming that she spent with Lilly, Duncan, and Logan. In the limo there, Logan dares Lilly to kiss someone in the car. Lilly chooses Veronica, to which Duncan, disgusted, says "That's my sister and my girlfriend." [[spoiler: Given that Duncan breaks up with Veronica because he finds out she may be his half-sister]], the line takes on a second very unintended meaning.

** The death of Felix has become this as of Brad Bufanda's suicide in 2017

* WhatAnIdiot:
** Veronica herself in the film: She ''really'' should have made sure that the supposedly unused frequency she listens to her bug on had not been taken by any stations during the nine years she was away. [[spoiler: Her failure to do so results in Gia being killed.]] NiceJobBreakingItHero.
** One wonders why she keeps confronting suspected murderers in person, alone. [[spoiler:Made even worse in the Season 2 finale when she sends Mac a text, in all caps, warning her that Beaver is a killer...with Beaver himself, at best, right next to Mac. Then she answers Mac's extremely suspicious sounding text by agreeing to meet her on the roof. She really ''shouldn't'' have been surprised when it turned out to be Beaver instead. Especially given that she had been nearly killed by Aaron a year previously.]]

** Logan bullied and slut shamed Veronica relentlessly after Lilly's death and provided the drugs which resulted in her being raped. They break up after he tries to trash the town and cause chaos, during which he sleeps with her enemy Kendall Casablancas. Later he also sleeps with Veronica's ArchEnemy, Madison, when they're broken up over Logan's fears for Veronica's safety.