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MEH requires the character be Irredeemable. Big Jim and Junior however are a case of Heel Face Revolving Door, with Junior ultimately being Brainwashed And Crazy before being killed, and Big Jim settling on Anti Hero by the end, so misuse.
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* MoralEventHorizon: While Big Jim has certainly been a murderous bastard in the series, pretty much all of his victims [[AssholeVictim deserved what they got to some extent.]] That, combined with his generally more [[AntiVillain sympathetic portrayal]] than in the book, keeps him from being too unlikeable. That is, up until he [[spoiler:kills Dodee, whose only real crime was [[HeKnowsTooMuch knowing too much about what Jim did.]]]] After that, any likability he might have had went right out the window. The crowning touch was him authorizing the building of a gallows. "Hang them higher than Haman", indeed.
** Christine talking a woman into suicide and arranging for Barbie to kill a man in "Alaska".
** Christine talking a woman into suicide and arranging for Barbie to kill a man in "Alaska".
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* MoralEventHorizon: While Big Jim has certainly been a murderous bastard in the series, pretty much all of his victims [[AssholeVictim deserved what they got to some extent.]] That, combined with his generally more [[AntiVillain sympathetic portrayal]] than in the book, keeps him from being too unlikeable. That is, up until he [[spoiler:kills Dodee, whose only real crime was [[HeKnowsTooMuch knowing too much about what Jim did.]]]] After that, any likability he might have had went right out the window. The crowning touch was him authorizing the building of a gallows. "Hang them higher than Haman", indeed.
**Christine talking a woman into suicide and arranging for Barbie to kill a man in "Alaska".
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Not YMMV. MEH requires the character be Irredeemable. Big Jim and Junior however are a case of Heel Face Revolving Door, with Junior ultimately being Brainwashed And Crazy before being killed, and Big Jim settling on Anti Hero by the end, so misuse.
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** DelayedReaction: Until "Endless Thirst", when a full-on riot breaks out after the water tower is destroyed.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Not as strong as most examples, as the final act of the book is well-respected, but it still might have been interesting to see Andrea Grinnel's HopeSpot actually come to fruition, preventing the visitors day disaster, but perhaps causing a Civil War among the townspeople and there factions for the rest of the book.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Not as strong as most examples, as the final act of the book is well-respected, but it still might have been interesting to see Andrea Grinnel's HopeSpot actually come to fruition, preventing the visitors day disaster, but perhaps causing a Civil War among the townspeople and there their factions for the rest of the book.
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* MoralEventHorizon: While Big Jim has certainly been a murderous bastard in the series, pretty much all of his victims [[KickTheSonOfABitch deserved what they got to some extent.]] That, combined with his generally more [[AntiVillain sympathetic portrayal]] than in the book, keeps him from being too unlikeable. That is, up until he [[spoiler:kills Dodee, whose only real crime was [[HeKnowsTooMuch knowing too much about what Jim did.]]]] After that, any likability he might have had went right out the window. The crowning touch was him authorizing the building of a gallows. "Hang them higher than Haman", indeed.
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* MoralEventHorizon: While Big Jim has certainly been a murderous bastard in the series, pretty much all of his victims [[KickTheSonOfABitch [[AssholeVictim deserved what they got to some extent.]] That, combined with his generally more [[AntiVillain sympathetic portrayal]] than in the book, keeps him from being too unlikeable. That is, up until he [[spoiler:kills Dodee, whose only real crime was [[HeKnowsTooMuch knowing too much about what Jim did.]]]] After that, any likability he might have had went right out the window. The crowning touch was him authorizing the building of a gallows. "Hang them higher than Haman", indeed.
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** Barbie and Julia's relationship can become this if you remember it's been going on for only three weeks (and after he [[spoiler: killed her husband]], yet portrayed as some kind of epic romance.
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** Barbie and Julia's relationship can become this if you remember it's been going on for only three weeks (and after he [[spoiler: killed her husband]], yet is portrayed as some kind of epic romance.
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** The cow itself as well. It has nothing inside it but ''meat'' -- no apparent skeleton or internal organs to speak of. Then again, given that this is network television, it's hard to imagine how they could've gotten away with more than just meat.
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** The cow itself as well. [[MadeOfBologna It has nothing inside it but ''meat'' but]] ''[[MadeOfBologna meat]]'' -- no apparent skeleton or internal organs to speak of. Then again, given that this is network television, it's hard to imagine how they could've gotten away with more than just meat.
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"What an Idiot!" is now Flame Bait.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Despite having a radio station to co-ordinate their efforts, as well as having information from the outside world, it's only Julia demanding to issue news updates that stops the two DJ's from simply playing music as if [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight nothing unusual]] is happening at all!
** Hell, it seems like half the series is just the characters passing around the IdiotBall. See TooDumbToLive on the main tropes page.
** Somewhat justified in the case of Joe. He's smart enough to figure out some of the mechanics of the Dome, the nature of Norrie and his seizures, in addition to discovering [[spoiler: the Egg under the mini-dome in the precise centre of the dome]]; but is too afraid of how [[TorchesAndPitchforks people would react]] to tell anyone about it.
** And then, in Season 2, he completely ignores the fact that the way he's acting toward Melanie in front of Norrie is inappropriate as hell for a boy with a girlfriend already.
** Linda doesn't bother informing everyone of Big Jim's crimes, relieving him of his position and throwing him in the nearest cell, but instead chooses to play second fiddle to him as he starts PuttingOnTheReich. Her actions during the WitchHunt for [[spoiler: Barbie]] make her seem even more [[PoliceAreUseless idiotic]], since she never bothers asking for any ''proof'' that he's guilty for the crimes Big Jim claims he committed!
** Hell, it seems like half the series is just the characters passing around the IdiotBall. See TooDumbToLive on the main tropes page.
** Somewhat justified in the case of Joe. He's smart enough to figure out some of the mechanics of the Dome, the nature of Norrie and his seizures, in addition to discovering [[spoiler: the Egg under the mini-dome in the precise centre of the dome]]; but is too afraid of how [[TorchesAndPitchforks people would react]] to tell anyone about it.
** And then, in Season 2, he completely ignores the fact that the way he's acting toward Melanie in front of Norrie is inappropriate as hell for a boy with a girlfriend already.
** Linda doesn't bother informing everyone of Big Jim's crimes, relieving him of his position and throwing him in the nearest cell, but instead chooses to play second fiddle to him as he starts PuttingOnTheReich. Her actions during the WitchHunt for [[spoiler: Barbie]] make her seem even more [[PoliceAreUseless idiotic]], since she never bothers asking for any ''proof'' that he's guilty for the crimes Big Jim claims he committed!
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** Hell, it seems like half the series is just the characters passing around the IdiotBall. See TooDumbToLive on the main tropes page.
** Somewhat justified in the case of Joe. He's smart enough to figure out some of the mechanics of the Dome, the nature of Norrie and his seizures, in addition to discovering [[spoiler: the Egg under the mini-dome in the precise centre of the dome]]; but is too afraid of how [[TorchesAndPitchforks people would react]] to tell anyone about it.
** And then, in Season 2, he completely ignores the fact that the way he's acting toward Melanie in front of Norrie is inappropriate as hell for a boy with a girlfriend already.
** Linda doesn't bother informing everyone of Big Jim's crimes, relieving him of his position and throwing him in the nearest cell, but instead chooses to play second fiddle to him as he starts PuttingOnTheReich. Her actions during the WitchHunt for [[spoiler: Barbie]] make her seem even more [[PoliceAreUseless idiotic]], since she never bothers asking for any ''proof'' that he's guilty for the crimes Big Jim claims he committed!
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* FanNickname: The ''Television Without Pity'' forums tend to refer to Junior as "[[IdenticalStranger Evil]] [[Creator/TheLonelyIsland Andy Samberg]]".
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* FanNickname: The ''Television Without Pity'' forums tend to refer to Junior as "[[IdenticalStranger Evil]] [[Creator/TheLonelyIsland Andy Samberg]]".Creator/AndySamberg".
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* FanNickname: The ''Television Without Pity'' forums tend to refer to Junior as "[[IdenticalStranger Evil]] [[Creator/TheLonelyIsland Andy Samberg]]".