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* WhatAnIdiot: [[spoiler: Oh my god, Edgar. Let's go down the list, shall we? There was no reason why he should have gotten eliminated, and yet, by some miracle, it happened anyway. First off, he won immunity. He then chose to give it up and got a box with a Golden Passport, as he thought he was safe. OK, cool. He then mentions that he'll play the ticket on someone who Benjamin's alliance is targeting so that the majority vote can get negated. So far, so good. ...But here's where things go downhill. Instead of distributing the three votes out just in case their main target had a Golden Passport, he decides to put all three votes on Benjamin. To add, Edgar made it very obvious Benjamin was his target, feeling confident that he would leave. But guess what? Benjamin also has a Golden Passport, making it so the campers have to draw rocks. Obviously, after a show of incompetency that massive, it was only fitting Edgar drew the bad one. For someone as supposedly smart as Edgar, his elimination was the greatest display of imcompetency out of any CB contestant ever.]]
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* BrokenBase: People are... divided over Jethro's more sympathetic angle being played up after the team swap.
** The readers are divided over whether [[spoiler:Ling]] deserved to make the finale. Some argue that [[spoiler:she]] is a likable, multi-dimensional protagonist and one of the only truly good contestants in the story, which warrants a spot in the endgame to keep the fic from getting too dark. Others argue that [[spoiler:she]] didn't really accomplish anything in the game and that [[spoiler:she]] only made it this far through sheer luck and through the accomplishments of others and that someone who played the game harder should have made the finale instead.

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People are... divided over Jethro's more sympathetic angle being played up after the team swap.
** The readers are divided over whether [[spoiler:Ling]] deserved to make the finale. Some argue that [[spoiler:she]] is they are a likable, multi-dimensional protagonist and one of the only truly good contestants in the story, which warrants a spot in the endgame to keep the fic from getting too dark. Others argue that [[spoiler:she]] they didn't really accomplish anything in the game and that [[spoiler:she]] only made it this far through sheer luck and through the accomplishments of others and others; that someone who played the game harder should have made the finale instead.



* CreepyAwesome: Megan, particularly later into the story.

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* EliminationHoudini: Edgar. It's reaching [[Fanfic/TotalDramaLetterz Kasimar]] levels. [[spoiler: This is subverted with his elimination, where, despite him being in absolutely no danger, he managed to screw up badly enough to draw a bad rock and get the boot.]]

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* EliminationHoudini: Edgar.EliminationHoudini:
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It's reaching [[Fanfic/TotalDramaLetterz Kasimar]] levels. [[spoiler: This is subverted with his elimination, where, despite him being in absolutely no danger, he managed to screw up badly enough to draw a bad rock and get the boot.]]



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Benjamin, the AntiVillain [[TheChessmaster Chessmaster]] whose extremely complex morality and sympathetic backstory quickly caused him to skyrocket to everyone's top ten.
** Bonnie also has a very high spot in many readers' favorites lists, due to her mature handling of the herself/Emily/Vinsun/Ranoma/Craig love pentagon, and [[spoiler:her [[DyingMomentOfAwesome epic elimination]]]].

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
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Benjamin, the AntiVillain [[TheChessmaster Chessmaster]] whose extremely complex morality and sympathetic backstory quickly caused him to skyrocket to everyone's top ten.
** Bonnie also has a very high spot in many readers' favorites lists, due to her mature handling of the herself/Emily/Vinsun/Ranoma/Craig love pentagon, and [[spoiler:her [[DyingMomentOfAwesome epic elimination]]]].



* MagnificentBastard: Oh, dear God, ''Jethro''.



* {{Moe}}: Amy, Suki, Pandora, Molly and Karrie for the girls; Ted, Tony, Jarvis and Vinsun for the boys.
* MoralEventHorizon: Jethro had done some pretty screwed up things, ranging from using Zora as a way to tear apart the Bees to framing Dil as the panty thief to save his own hide, and doing it all mostly ForTheEvulz. However, he ultimately crossed the line when [[spoiler: he revealed that he hypnotized Edgar into becoming a monster that tormented his respective team, meaning all of the Snails' suffering as well as Edgar's insanity]] is his fault.

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* %%* {{Moe}}: Amy, Suki, Pandora, Molly and Karrie for the girls; Ted, Tony, Jarvis and Vinsun for the boys.
* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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Jethro had done some pretty screwed up things, ranging from using Zora as a way to tear apart the Bees to framing Dil as the panty thief to save his own hide, and doing it all mostly ForTheEvulz. However, he ultimately crossed the line when [[spoiler: he revealed that he hypnotized Edgar into becoming a monster that tormented his respective team, meaning all of the Snails' suffering as well as Edgar's insanity]] is his fault.



* PlotTumor: Edgar. Everything lately is about why he's a horrible human being, and it's really annoying.

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Edgar. Everything lately is about why he's a horrible human being, and it's really annoying.



* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: [[spoiler: Lars]] of all people for [[spoiler: his incredibly [[TearJerker tragic backstory]] being revealed and [[TheStarscream his plans to take down Jethro]]]].

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap:
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[[spoiler: Lars]] of all people for [[spoiler: his incredibly [[TearJerker tragic backstory]] being revealed and [[TheStarscream his plans to take down Jethro]]]].



* TheScrappy: Cuthbert is an in-universe example.
** Then there's Justin, whose inclusion into the story was forced, though not as forced as [[spoiler:him becoming a contestant.]] Granted, the latter only really occurred for an episode or two, but it annoyed readers nonetheless due to him acting OutOfCharacter and not adding anything to the story.

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* TheScrappy: TheScrappy:
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Cuthbert is an in-universe example.
** Then there's Justin, whose inclusion into the story was forced, though not as forced as [[spoiler:him becoming a contestant.]] Granted, the latter only really occurred for an episode or two, but it annoyed readers nonetheless due to him acting OutOfCharacter and not adding anything to the story.



* UncannyValley: Gareth.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Edgar, [[spoiler: after the reveal that Jethro had hypnotized him to turn evil]]. Yet, even after this, it's [[spoiler: Jethro, the guy who ruined Edgar's life]] who we're supposed to sympathize with.

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Edgar, [[spoiler: after the reveal that Jethro had hypnotized him to turn evil]]. Yet, even after this, it's [[spoiler: Jethro, the guy who ruined Edgar's life]] who we're supposed to sympathize with.



* TheWoobie: Pandora embodies this trope.
** Just about anybody with a sad backstory, really. Which happens to be a sizable number of the cast.

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* BaseBreaker: Molly, Edgar, and Jethro are all notable examples.

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** Bonnie also has a very high spot in many readers' favorites lists, due to her mature handling of the herself/Emily/Vinsun/Ranoma/Craig love pentagon, and [[spoiler:her [[DyingMomentOfAwesome epic elimination.]]]]

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** Bonnie also has a very high spot in many readers' favorites lists, due to her mature handling of the herself/Emily/Vinsun/Ranoma/Craig love pentagon, and [[spoiler:her [[DyingMomentOfAwesome epic elimination.]]]]elimination]]]].



* GaryStu: Vinsun, despite having never interacted with anyone other than his family until the game started, has perfect social skills, is loved by everyone on his team, has zero character flaws, and has two girls crushing on him. This is even lampshaded [[spoiler:in the author's notes after his elimination]].



* PuritySue: Molly is an interesting deconstruction of this. She is well liked by many and seems to be both a PollyAnna and a sweet religious girl ... but in reality she [[spoiler: HATES and FEARS the idea of being perfect. She wants to be seen as flawed just like everyone else and doesn't get why being deaf is a reason for her to be adored. She goes as far as to temporarily become a forced {{Jerkass}} in order to stop people from thinking she was perfect ... it didn't end very well and currently she has a LOT of apologies to make.]]
** Vinsun plays this pretty straight for a while until his absolute trust in Craig [[spoiler:leads to his elimination]].
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: [[spoiler: Lars]] of all people for [[spoiler: his incredibly [[TearJerker tragic backstory]] being revealed and [[TheStarscream his plans to take down]] [[VillainSue Jethro.]]]]

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* PuritySue: Molly is an interesting deconstruction of this. She is well liked by many and seems to be both a PollyAnna and a sweet religious girl ... but in reality she [[spoiler: HATES and FEARS the idea of being perfect. She wants to be seen as flawed just like everyone else and doesn't get why being deaf is a reason for her to be adored. She goes as far as to temporarily become a forced {{Jerkass}} in order to stop people from thinking she was perfect ... it didn't end very well and currently she has a LOT of apologies to make.]]
** Vinsun plays this pretty straight for a while until his absolute trust in Craig [[spoiler:leads to his elimination]].
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: [[spoiler: Lars]] of all people for [[spoiler: his incredibly [[TearJerker tragic backstory]] being revealed and [[TheStarscream his plans to take down]] [[VillainSue Jethro.]]]] down Jethro]]]].



** [[BodyguardCrush Jarvis/Pandora]].

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** [[BodyguardCrush Jarvis/Pandora]].Jarvis/Pandora]]



* UncannyValley: Gareth.



** Elvira was meant to be seen as an overbearing ControlFreak, but some readers saw her as the OnlySaneMan of her team who just wanted order among all the chaos.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Jethro. Despite having done many horrible things to his fellow contestants and has yet to actually apologize for any of them, alongside his [[{{Wangst}} Wangsty]] StrawNihilist attitude, his DeusAngstMachina backstory is meant to try and make the readers feel sorry for him and want him to be redeemed despite him showing no redeemable qualities or a desire to repent for what he's done.

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** Elvira was meant to be seen as an overbearing ControlFreak, but some readers saw her as the OnlySaneMan [[OnlySaneMan Only Sane Woman]] of her team who just wanted order among all the chaos.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Jethro. Despite having done many horrible things to his fellow contestants and has yet to actually apologize for any of them, alongside his [[{{Wangst}} Wangsty]] {{Wangst}}y StrawNihilist attitude, his DeusAngstMachina backstory is meant to try and make the readers feel sorry for him and want him to be redeemed despite him showing no redeemable qualities or a desire to repent for what he's done. done.
* WhatAnIdiot: [[spoiler: Oh my god, Edgar. Let's go down the list, shall we? There was no reason why he should have gotten eliminated, and yet, by some miracle, it happened anyway. First off, he won immunity. He then chose to give it up and got a box with a Golden Passport, as he thought he was safe. OK, cool. He then mentions that he'll play the ticket on someone who Benjamin's alliance is targeting so that the majority vote can get negated. So far, so good. ...But here's where things go downhill. Instead of distributing the three votes out just in case their main target had a Golden Passport, he decides to put all three votes on Benjamin. To add, Edgar made it very obvious Benjamin was his target, feeling confident that he would leave. But guess what? Benjamin also has a Golden Passport, making it so the campers have to draw rocks. Obviously, after a show of incompetency that massive, it was only fitting Edgar drew the bad one. For someone as supposedly smart as Edgar, his elimination was the greatest display of imcompetency out of any CB contestant ever.]]



** Just about anybody with a sad backstory, really. Which happens to be a sizable number of the cast.
* [[VillainSue Villain Stu]]: Jethro. He is a [[VillainWithGoodPublicity Villain With VERY Good Publicity]], he can hypnotize anyone he wants to vote off who he wants, he was able to trick [[TheChessmaster Benjamin]], and as of the latest chapter, [[spoiler: he has cybernetic implants]].
** [[spoiler: Subverted when the teams re-shuffle, where he's in a very bad position on his new team, which contains the unbreakable Tony/Benjamin duo, alongside their friends Winter and Bea and resident EliminationHoudini Edgar. Safe to say, he's got some work to do.]]
* UncannyValley: Gareth.
* WhatAnIdiot: [[spoiler: Oh my god, Edgar. Let's go down the list, shall we? There was no reason why he should have gotten eliminated, and yet, by some miracle, it happened anyway. First off, he won immunity. He then chose to give it up and got a box with a Golden Passport, as he thought he was safe. OK, cool. He then mentions that he'll play the ticket on someone who Benjamin's alliance is targeting so that the majority vote can get negated. So far, so good. ...But here's where things go downhill. Instead of distributing the three votes out just in case their main target had a Golden Passport, he decides to put all three votes on Benjamin. To add, Edgar made it very obvious Benjamin was his target, feeling confident that he would leave. But guess what? Benjamin also has a Golden Passport, making it so the campers have to draw rocks. Obviously, after a show of incompetency that massive, it was only fitting Edgar drew the bad one. For someone as supposedly smart as Edgar, his elimination was the greatest display of imcompetancy out of any CB contestant ever.]]

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** Just about anybody with a sad backstory, really. Which happens to be a sizable number of the cast.
* [[VillainSue Villain Stu]]: Jethro. He is a [[VillainWithGoodPublicity Villain With VERY Good Publicity]], he can hypnotize anyone he wants to vote off who he wants, he was able to trick [[TheChessmaster Benjamin]], and as of the latest chapter, [[spoiler: he has cybernetic implants]].
** [[spoiler: Subverted when the teams re-shuffle, where he's in a very bad position on his new team, which contains the unbreakable Tony/Benjamin duo, alongside their friends Winter and Bea and resident EliminationHoudini Edgar. Safe to say, he's got some work to do.]]
* UncannyValley: Gareth.
* WhatAnIdiot: [[spoiler: Oh my god, Edgar. Let's go down the list, shall we? There was no reason why he should have gotten eliminated, and yet, by some miracle, it happened anyway. First off, he won immunity. He then chose to give it up and got a box with a Golden Passport, as he thought he was safe. OK, cool. He then mentions that he'll play the ticket on someone who Benjamin's alliance is targeting so that the majority vote can get negated. So far, so good. ...But here's where things go downhill. Instead of distributing the three votes out just in case their main target had a Golden Passport, he decides to put all three votes on Benjamin. To add, Edgar made it very obvious Benjamin was his target, feeling confident that he would leave. But guess what? Benjamin also has a Golden Passport, making it so the campers have to draw rocks. Obviously, after a show of incompetency that massive, it was only fitting Edgar drew the bad one. For someone as supposedly smart as Edgar, his elimination was the greatest display of imcompetancy out of any CB contestant ever.]]
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** Elvira was meant to be seen as an overbearing ControlFreak, but some readers saw her as the OneSaneMan of her team who just wanted order among all the chaos.

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** Elvira was meant to be seen as an overbearing ControlFreak, but some readers saw her as the OneSaneMan OnlySaneMan of her team who just wanted order among all the chaos.
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* EliminationHoudini: Edgar. It's reaching [[Fanfic/TotalDramaLetterz Kasimar]] levels. [[spoiler: This is subverted HARD with his elimination, where, despite him being in absolutely no danger, he managed to screw up badly enough to draw a bad rock and get the boot.]]

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* EliminationHoudini: Edgar. It's reaching [[Fanfic/TotalDramaLetterz Kasimar]] levels. [[spoiler: This is subverted HARD with his elimination, where, despite him being in absolutely no danger, he managed to screw up badly enough to draw a bad rock and get the boot.]]
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** The readers are divided over whether [[spoiler:Ling]] deserved to make the finale. Some argue that [[spoiler:she]] is a likable, multi-dimensional protagonist and one of the only truly good contestants in the story, which warrants a spot in the endgame to keep the fic from getting too dark. Others argue that [[spoiler:she]] didn't really accomplish anything in the game and that [[spoiler:she]] only made it this far through sheer luck and through the accomplishments of others and that someone who played the game harder should have made the finale instead.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Once again, Cuthbert. When his team is set for elimination, he offers the possibility of eliminating Molly, saying that her deafness could hinder the team. His team is quick to deride this as hate speech, despite Cuthbert not saying anything bad about deaf people. He could have been more tactful with how he said it, but a lot of the things he said rang true.
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** Then there's Justin, whose inclusion into the story was forced, though not as forced as [[spoiler:him becoming a contestant.]] Granted, the latter only really occurred for an episode or two, but it annoyed readers nonetheless due to him acting OutOfCharacter and not adding anything to the story.

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* CreepyAwesome: Megan, particularly later into the story.



** Amy. Despite being next-to-useless in challenges, having very little to do in the overall plot [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and the fact that she is already very well-off]], she's made it to the final ten, over several much more popular characters, including her fan-favorite boyfriend, Gareth.

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** Amy. Despite being next-to-useless in challenges, having very little to do in the overall plot [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and the fact that she is already very well-off]], she's made it to makes as far as the final ten, [[spoiler:seven]], over several much more popular characters, including [[spoiler:including her fan-favorite boyfriend, Gareth.]]


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** Vinsun plays this pretty straight for a while until his absolute trust in Craig [[spoiler:leads to his elimination]].


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** [[BetaCouple Albert/Elvira]]


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** A lot of readers began to feel sorry for [[spoiler:Emily]] after her HumiliationConga.
** Elvira was meant to be seen as an overbearing ControlFreak, but some readers saw her as the OneSaneMan of her team who just wanted order among all the chaos.

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** Amy. Despite being next-to-useless in challenges, having very little to do in the overall plot [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and the fact that she is already very well-off]], she's made it to the final ten, over several much more popular characters, including her fan-favorite boyfriend, Gareth.



* MagnificentBastard: Oh, dearGod, ''Jethro''.

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* GaryStu: Vinsun, despite having never interacted with anyone other than his family until the game started, has perfect social skills, is loved by everyone on his team, has zero character flaws, and has two girls crushing on him. This is even lampshaded [[spoiler:in the author's notes after his elimination]].
* MagnificentBastard: Oh, dearGod, dear God, ''Jethro''.


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* MoralEventHorizon: Jethro had done some pretty screwed up things, ranging from using Zora as a way to tear apart the Bees to framing Dil as the panty thief to save his own hide, and doing it all mostly ForTheEvulz. However, he ultimately crossed the line when [[spoiler: he revealed that he hypnotized Edgar into becoming a monster that tormented his respective team, meaning all of the Snails' suffering as well as Edgar's insanity]] is his fault.
** Bonnie refusing to mind her own business and skipping a challenge for the sole purpose of picking on Edgar.


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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Edgar, [[spoiler: after the reveal that Jethro had hypnotized him to turn evil]]. Yet, even after this, it's [[spoiler: Jethro, the guy who ruined Edgar's life]] who we're supposed to sympathize with.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Jethro. Despite having done many horrible things to his fellow contestants and has yet to actually apologize for any of them, alongside his [[{{Wangst}} Wangsty]] StrawNihilist attitude, his DeusAngstMachina backstory is meant to try and make the readers feel sorry for him and want him to be redeemed despite him showing no redeemable qualities or a desire to repent for what he's done.

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** Amy. Despite being next-to-useless in challenges, having very little to do in the overall plot [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and the fact that she is already very well-off]], she's made it to the final nine, over several much more popular characters, including her fan-favorite boyfriend, Gareth.



* GaryStu: Vinsun, despite having never interacted with anyone other than his family until the game started, has perfect social skills, is loved by everyone on his team, has zero character flaws, and has two girls crushing on him. This is even lampshaded [[spoiler:in the author's notes after his elimination]].
* MagnificentBastard: Oh, dear God, ''Jethro''.

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* GaryStu: Vinsun, despite having never interacted with anyone other than his family until the game started, has perfect social skills, is loved by everyone on his team, has zero character flaws, and has two girls crushing on him. This is even lampshaded [[spoiler:in the author's notes after his elimination]].
* MagnificentBastard: Oh, dear God, dearGod, ''Jethro''.



* MoralEventHorizon: Jethro had done some pretty screwed up things, ranging from using Zora as a way to tear apart the Bees to framing Dil as the panty thief to save his own hide, and doing it all mostly ForTheEvulz. However, he ultimately crossed the line when [[spoiler: he revealed that he hypnotized Edgar into becoming a monster that tormented his respective team, meaning all of the Snails' suffering as well as Edgar's insanity]] is his fault.
** Bonnie refusing to mind her own business and skipping a challenge for the sole purpose of picking on Edgar.



** [[BodyguardCrush Jarvis/Pandora]]
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Edgar, [[spoiler: after the reveal that Jethro had hypnotized him to turn evil]]. Yet, even after this, it's [[spoiler: Jethro, the guy who ruined Edgar's life]] who we're supposed to sympathize with.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Jethro. Despite having done many horrible things to his fellow contestants and has yet to actually apologize for any of them, alongside his [[{{Wangst}} Wangsty]] StrawNihilist attitude, his DeusAngstMachina backstory is meant to try and make the readers feel sorry for him and want him to be redeemed despite him showing no redeemable qualities or a desire to repent for what he's done.

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** [[BodyguardCrush Jarvis/Pandora]]
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Edgar, [[spoiler: after the reveal that Jethro had hypnotized him to turn evil]]. Yet, even after this, it's [[spoiler: Jethro, the guy who ruined Edgar's life]] who we're supposed to sympathize with.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Jethro. Despite having done many horrible things to his fellow contestants and has yet to actually apologize for any of them, alongside his [[{{Wangst}} Wangsty]] StrawNihilist attitude, his DeusAngstMachina backstory is meant to try and make the readers feel sorry for him and want him to be redeemed despite him showing no redeemable qualities or a desire to repent for what he's done.
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* DeusAngstMachina: Jethro's backstory. [[spoiler: ParentalAbandonment, raised in an OrphanageOfFear and has a dead twin sister.]]



** Amy. Despite being next-to-useless in challenges, having very little to do in the overall plot [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and the fact that she is already very well-off]], she's made it to the final nine, over several much more popular characters, including her fan-favorite boyfriend, Gareth.



** Bonnie also has a very high spot in everyone's favorites lists, due to her mature handling of the herself/Emily/Vinsun/Ranoma/Craig love pentagon, and [[spoiler:her [[DyingMomentOfAwesome epic elimination.]]]]

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** Bonnie also has a very high spot in everyone's many readers' favorites lists, due to her mature handling of the herself/Emily/Vinsun/Ranoma/Craig love pentagon, and [[spoiler:her [[DyingMomentOfAwesome epic elimination.]]]]



* MoralEventHorizon: Jethro had done some pretty screwed up things, ranging from using Zora as a way to tear apart the Bees to framing Dil as the panty thief to save his own hide, and doing it all mostly ForTheEvulz. However, he ultimately crossed the line when [[spoiler: he revealed that he hypnotized Edgar into becoming a monster that tormented his respective team, meaning all of the Snails' suffering as well as Edgar's insanity]] is his fault.
** Bonnie refusing to mind her own business and skipping a challenge for the sole purpose of picking on Edgar.
* PlotTumor: Edgar. Everything lately is about why he's a horrible human being, and it's really annoying.
** Bedlam, once she starts taking control of Pandora's body, is the only thing that matters to the Mystic Moths.




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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Edgar, [[spoiler: after the reveal that Jethro had hypnotized him to turn evil]]. Yet, even after this, it's [[spoiler: Jethro, the guy who ruined Edgar's life]] who we're supposed to sympathize with.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Jethro. Despite having done many horrible things to his fellow contestants and has yet to actually apologize for any of them, alongside his [[{{Wangst}} Wangsty]] StrawNihilist attitude, his DeusAngstMachina backstory is meant to try and make the readers feel sorry for him and want him to be redeemed despite him showing no redeemable qualities or a desire to repent for what he's done.

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* DeusAngstMachina: Jethro's backstory. [[spoiler: ParentalAbandonment, raised in an OrphanageOfFear and has a dead twin sister.]]



** Amy. Despite being next-to-useless in challenges, having very little to do in the overall plot [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and the fact that she is already very well-off]], she's made it to the final ten, over several much more popular characters, including her fan-favorite boyfriend, Gareth.



* MoralEventHorizon: Jethro had done some pretty screwed up things, ranging from using Zora as a way to tear apart the Bees to framing Dil as the panty thief to save his own hide, and doing it all mostly ForTheEvulz. However, he ultimately crossed the line when [[spoiler: he revealed that he hypnotized Edgar into becoming a monster that tormented his respective team, meaning all of the Snails' suffering as well as Edgar's insanity]] is his fault.
** Bonnie refusing to mind her own business and skipping a challenge for the sole purpose of picking on Edgar.
* PlotTumor: Edgar. Everything lately is about why he's a horrible human being, and it's really annoying.
** Bedlam, once she starts taking control of Pandora's body, is the only thing that matters to the Mystic Moths.



* UnintentionallySympathetic: Edgar, [[spoiler: after the reveal that Jethro had hypnotized him to turn evil]]. Yet, even after this, it's [[spoiler: Jethro, the guy who ruined Edgar's life]] who we're supposed to sympathize with.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Jethro. Despite having done many horrible things to his fellow contestants and has yet to actually apologize for any of them, alongside his [[{{Wangst}} Wangsty]] StrawNihilist attitude, his DeusAngstMachina backstory is meant to try and make the readers feel sorry for him and want him to be redeemed despite him showing no redeemable qualities or a desire to repent for what he's done.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Edgar, [[spoiler: after the reveal that Jethro had hypnotized him to turn evil]]. Yet, even after this, it's [[spoiler: Jethro, the guy who ruined Edgar's life]] who we're supposed to sympathize with.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Jethro. Despite having done many horrible things to his fellow contestants and has yet to actually apologize for any of them, alongside his [[{{Wangst}} Wangsty]] StrawNihilist attitude, his DeusAngstMachina backstory is meant to try and make the readers feel sorry for him and want him to be redeemed despite him showing no redeemable qualities or a desire to repent for what he's done.

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* BaseBreaker: Molly, Edgar, and Jethro are all notable examples

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* BaseBreaker: Molly, Edgar, and Jethro are all notable examplesexamples.
* BrokenBase: People are... divided over Jethro's more sympathetic angle being played up after the team swap.


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** Amy. Despite being next-to-useless in challenges, having very little to do in the overall plot [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and the fact that she is already very well-off]], she's made it to the final ten, over several much more popular characters, including her fan-favorite boyfriend, Gareth.
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* DeusAngstMachina: Jethro's backstory. [[spoiler: ParentalAbandonment, raised in an OrphanageOfFear and has a dead twin sister.]]


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** Bonnie refusing to mind her own business and skipping a challenge for the sole purpose of picking on Edgar.


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** Bedlam, once she starts taking control of Pandora's body, is the only thing that matters to the Mystic Moths.


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** Cuthbert gained a lot of fans once he decided to co-host a Cruise of Loss chapter and his antics were PlayedForLaughs rather than to make him a HateSink.
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* UncannyValley: Gareth.

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* UncannyValley: Gareth.Gareth.
* WhatAnIdiot: [[spoiler: Oh my god, Edgar. Let's go down the list, shall we? There was no reason why he should have gotten eliminated, and yet, by some miracle, it happened anyway. First off, he won immunity. He then chose to give it up and got a box with a Golden Passport, as he thought he was safe. OK, cool. He then mentions that he'll play the ticket on someone who Benjamin's alliance is targeting so that the majority vote can get negated. So far, so good. ...But here's where things go downhill. Instead of distributing the three votes out just in case their main target had a Golden Passport, he decides to put all three votes on Benjamin. To add, Edgar made it very obvious Benjamin was his target, feeling confident that he would leave. But guess what? Benjamin also has a Golden Passport, making it so the campers have to draw rocks. Obviously, after a show of incompetency that massive, it was only fitting Edgar drew the bad one. For someone as supposedly smart as Edgar, his elimination was the greatest display of imcompetancy out of any CB contestant ever.]]
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* EliminationHoudini: Edgar. It's reaching [[Fanfic/TotalDramaLetterz Kasimar]] levels.

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* EliminationHoudini: Edgar. It's reaching [[Fanfic/TotalDramaLetterz Kasimar]] levels. [[spoiler: This is subverted HARD with his elimination, where, despite him being in absolutely no danger, he managed to screw up badly enough to draw a bad rock and get the boot.]]
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* PlotTumor: Edgar. Everything lately is about why he's a horrible human being, and it comes off as annoying.

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* PlotTumor: Edgar. Everything lately is about why he's a horrible human being, and it comes off as it's really annoying.

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** Bonnie's [[spoiler:elimination]] could be considered this. Sure, why not throw away some of your teammate's prized possessions simply because you don't like him? Why not act real smug while you're at it? And to top it all off, don't get any in-universe flak for it.
* PlotTumor: Edgar. Everything lately is about why he's a horrible human being, and it's pretty annoying.

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** Bonnie's [[spoiler:elimination]] could be considered this. Sure, why not throw away some of your teammate's prized possessions simply because you don't like him? Why not act real smug while you're at it? And to top it all off, don't get any in-universe flak for it.
* PlotTumor: Edgar. Everything lately is about why he's a horrible human being, and it's pretty it comes off as annoying.

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* BaseBreaker: Molly.

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* BaseBreaker: Molly.Molly, Edgar, and Jethro are all notable examples



* GaryStu: Vinsun, despite having never interacted with anyone other than his family until the game started, has perfect social skills, is loved by everyone on his team, has zero character flaws, and has two girls crushing on him.

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* GaryStu: Vinsun, despite having never interacted with anyone other than his family until the game started, has perfect social skills, is loved by everyone on his team, has zero character flaws, and has two girls crushing on him. This is even lampshaded [[spoiler:in the author's notes after his elimination]].



* MoralEventHorizon: Jethro had done some pretty screwed up things, ranging from using Zora as a way to tear apart the Bees to framing Dil as the panty thief to save his own hide, and doing it all mostly ForTheEvulz. However, he ultimately crossed the line when [[spoiler: he revealed that he hypnotized Edgar into becoming a monster that tormented his respective team, meaning all of the Snails' suffering as well as Edgar's insanity]] is his fault.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Jethro had done some pretty screwed up things, ranging from using Zora as a way to tear apart the Bees to framing Dil as the panty thief to save his own hide, and doing it all mostly ForTheEvulz. However, he ultimately crossed the line when [[spoiler: he revealed that he hypnotized Edgar into becoming a monster that tormented his respective team, meaning all of the Snails' suffering as well as Edgar's insanity]] is his fault.fault.
** Bonnie's [[spoiler:elimination]] could be considered this. Sure, why not throw away some of your teammate's prized possessions simply because you don't like him? Why not act real smug while you're at it? And to top it all off, don't get any in-universe flak for it.



* PuritySue: Molly is an interesting case of this. She is well liked by many and seems to be both a PollyAnna and a sweet religious girl ... but in reality she [[spoiler: HATES and FEARS the idea of being perfect. She wants to be seen as flawed just like everyone else and doesn't get why being deaf is a reason for her to be adored. She goes as far as to temporarily become a forced {{Jerkass}} in order to stop people from thinking she was perfect ... it didn't end very well and currently she has a LOT of apologies to make.]]

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* PuritySue: Molly is an interesting case deconstruction of this. She is well liked by many and seems to be both a PollyAnna and a sweet religious girl ... but in reality she [[spoiler: HATES and FEARS the idea of being perfect. She wants to be seen as flawed just like everyone else and doesn't get why being deaf is a reason for her to be adored. She goes as far as to temporarily become a forced {{Jerkass}} in order to stop people from thinking she was perfect ... it didn't end very well and currently she has a LOT of apologies to make.]]



** Molly for the first ten or so episodes alienated fans due to her being an oh-so-perfect little girl. Thankfully, this gets toned down later on.
** Jethro was also derided for his Sue-ishness, but it was also toned down in later episodes.
** Edgar is a one-note villain in a series where the villains are supposed to have some depth to them. Megan, his partner is also disliked or her obsession with getting rid of Craig.



** [[BodyguardCrush Jarvis/Pandora]]



** Bea, once you know her backstory.

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** Bea, once you know her backstory.Just about anybody with a sad backstory, really. Which happens to be a sizable number of the cast.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Jethro had done some pretty screwed up things, ranging from using Zora as a way to tear apart the Bees to framing Dil as the panty thief to save his own hide, and doing it all mostly ForTheEvulz. However, he ultimately crossed the line when [[spoiler: he revealed that he hypnotized Edgar into becoming a monster that tormented his respective team, meaning all of the Snails' suffering as well as Edgar's insanity]] is his fault.


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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Edgar, [[spoiler: after the reveal that Jethro had hypnotized him to turn evil]]. Yet, even after this, it's [[spoiler: Jethro, the guy who ruined Edgar's life]] who we're supposed to sympathize with.

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