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** A running fan theory after Smoky Quartz debuted was whether or not they and Sardonyx would get an episode to play off each other. This episode is basically that.
** Another, smaller theory is that the Temple can and does manifest new rooms for Fusions. After all, Garnet gets her own room, and she's a Fusion, so why not Sardonyx?
** A running fan theory after Smoky Quartz debuted was whether or not they and Sardonyx would get an episode to play off each other. This episode is basically that.
** Another, smaller theory is that the Temple can and does manifest new rooms for Fusions. After all, Garnet gets her own room, and she's a Fusion, so why not Sardonyx?
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** People don't like having their abilities compared to others, even if it's meant as a compliment.
** Even jokes that you make at ''your own'' expense can go too far.
** People don't like having their abilities compared to others, even if it's meant as a compliment.
** Even jokes that you make at ''your own'' expense can go too far.
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* FamilyUnFriendlyAesop: Not ''bad'' ones by any stretch of the imagination, just not entirely positive ones.
** People don't like having their abilities compared to others, even if it's meant as a compliment.
** Even jokes that you make ''at your own expense'' can go too far.
** People don't like having their abilities compared to others, even if it's meant as a compliment.
** Even jokes that you make ''at your own expense'' can go too far.
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Re: Skylite's reasoning. 1. The reason the Yo-Yo is an exception to the "weapons in the house" rule is because IT MADE ABOUT FIVE IMPRESSIONS IN THE WALL, not because Sardonyx hates it or something. I'm sure weapons like Sugi's flail and Sardonyx's own hammer are "expections" as well. 2. Sardonyx was literally just using Stock Voice Clips of Sugi for her "You Like This Little Man?" segment, was it ultimetly a bad idea that hurt Smokey's self esteem? yes. Was it done on purpose in order to hurt Smoky? Probably not. 3. Remember that it's not only Smoky who doesn't know who Smoky is, it's Sardonyx as well. She doesn't know Smoky has such fragile self esteem, not every fusion would've been hurt by the missions as she was. 2\3 of Sardonyx might have some self esteem problems, but the Sardonyx persona still seems to have a problem putting herself in the shoes of someone who might not be as confident as her 4. None of what you said contradicted my "overexcited mom" metaphor, the kid told her they' don't feel they're quite up to her trivia test, she gave them too hard of a quiz, the kid feels like shit - the mom is at fault for not listening to them and making this all about her and being inconsiderte, but not for delibertly putting them down. 5. WHY AM I EVEN ARGUING THAT? The second Sardonyx sees that Smoky feels put down by her tests she has a Jerkass realizarion, this was OBVIOUSLY IN THE TEXT NOT HER INTENTION TO PUT SMOKY DOWN
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* HypocriticalHumor: Sardonyx says she's excited about Smoky Quartz, but in trying to find out what Smoky can do, she centers herself, she sets tasks up that make Smoky feel worse, and makes jokes at Smoky's expense. Combine that with the MeaningfulName and it looks like the jokes don't match the intent.
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also mentioning Hypocritical Humor: Sardonyx put down Sugilite last time she was formed and spoke. Putdowns are part of her "performer" personality, apparently, again referencing the meaning of the word "sardonic".
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I'm going to try one last time to clarify why I feel this is appropriate. Sardonyx's first remark about the yo-yo is that there are no weapons allowed with exceptions. Then she tries to get the focus off the yo-yo but by comparing Smoky unfavorably to all the other more well established fuions. Third, one of the tasks actually has Sugilite make an insult toward Smoky "You ain't nothin'" when she fails to hit the bell. This is why Sardonyx does not come off to me like an excited parent asking a kid to show the new thing they learned. Smoky said in so many words she hadn't had time to learn herself yet & Sardonyx kept going anyway. Her words said she's excited, but her actions were all putdowns. YOUR mileage may vary but this is how it looked to some viewers.
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Um.... NO SHE'S NOT? "Bent on tearing Smoky down" implies INTENT?? where in the episode is Sardonyx INTENTIONALLY "tearing Smoky down"??? She was trying to make Smoky find out more about them beyond their weapon but it backfired because she made a big show out of it and comparing them to the more experienced fusions made them feel bad when all they wanted is a bit of positive attention! It's like if a kid got a B in a subject they struggle on and their mom is so impressed she wants them to show her just how much they know about the subject, but the questions are too advanced for the kid and that makes them feel like they don't know anything. I wouldn't decribe this mom as "bent on tearing her kid down". This isn't YMMV this is objectively the plot of the episode! AND HOW WOULD THAT EVEN BE "HYPOCRTICAL HUMOR" ANWAY EVEN IF IT WAS CORRECT???
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Is there a style guide wherein we have officially decided that all fusions are "they" and not just Stevonnie and Smoky Quartz? And if so, it is a simple thing to correct from "she" to "they" rather than deleting the entire entry and explain why in the edit reason.
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"Eh?" is not a good reason to remove a YMMV entry, since that means Your Mileage May Vary. If you don't agree, that's your mileage varying.
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* HypocriticalHumor: Sardonyx ''seems'' to mean well, but the part of her that is Pearl seems bent on tearing Smoky Quartz down, much like Pearl as an individual talks down about Sugilite and seems to think Stevonnie is some sort of affront. So her jokes at Smoky's expense aren't really jokes but how Pearl really feels. You can see it in how she looks kind of guilty when the Garnet part of Sardonyx points out that she hijacked Smoky's show. Garnet seems to realize that she let her excitement carry her away, and asserts her personality on Sardonyx more than usual.
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* HypocriticalHumor: Sardonyx ''seems'' to mean well, but the part of her that is Pearl seems bent on tearing Smoky Quartz down, much like Pearl as an individual talks down about Sugilite and seems to think Stevonnie is some sort of affront. So her jokes at Smoky's expense aren't really jokes but how Pearl really feels. You can see it in how she looks kind of guilty when the Garnet part of Sardonyx points out that she hijacked Smoky's show. Garnet seems to realize that she let her excitement carry her away, and asserts her personality on Sardonyx more than usual.
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* FanficFuel: Apparently ''every'' fusion has their own room in the Temple.
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* TakeThatUs: Sardonyx wondering whether they need to pay "Sugilite" for her voice-over appearance that uses stock clips from her only speaking appearance (as she was famously voiced by Creator/NickiMinaj) is a jab at the fact that the Fusions rarely come back in a speaking role due to them all being voiced by fairly famous/hard-to-get actresses (Opal and Sugilite have only had one proper speaking role, while Sardonyx and Alexandrite have had two).
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* TakeThatUs: Sardonyx wondering whether they need to pay "Sugilite" for her voice-over appearance that uses stock clips from her only speaking appearance (as she was famously voiced by Creator/NickiMinaj) is a jab at the fact that the Fusions rarely come back in a speaking role due to them all being voiced by fairly famous/hard-to-get actresses (Opal and Sugilite have only had one proper speaking role, while Sardonyx and Alexandrite have had two).
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