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* AudienceAlienatingEra: Her Post-''ComicBook/HeroesInCrisis'' characterization, which amounts to [[spoiler:Ivy being StuffedInTheFridge to give Harley Quinn motivation, only to be brought back from the dead within the same series as more plant than human. Not only has she been effectively turned into a blatant rip-off of ComicBook/SwampThing to the point she looks like she's been ''skinned alive'' and has no nipples or genitalia, but her killer (and the person who brought her back) was ''Wally West'', of all people. The follow-up series ''Harley Quinn & Poison Ivy'' only made this more of a DorkAge when it was supposed to fix the damage done to Ivy. After six issues of Harley trying to help Ivy deal with her trauma (as in, trauma she received at a place that was supposed to help her pre-existing trauma), it turns out there are now two Ivys (one calm and gentle, the other angry and vengeful). The calm Ivy tells Harley to escape as she fights and later merges with angry Ivy, in the process only kissing Harley on the forehead before she departs. So after brutalizing Ivy and dehumanizing her, DC treated her fans to six issues of queerbaiting between her and Harley. It then turned out the two Ivys never actually merged at all, with the angry one becoming Queen Ivy while the calm one was abducted and put in stasis so drugs could be harvested from her biochemistry over in ''Catwoman''.]]

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* AudienceAlienatingEra: Her Post-''ComicBook/HeroesInCrisis'' characterization, which amounts to [[spoiler:Ivy being StuffedInTheFridge to give Harley Quinn motivation, only to be brought back from the dead within the same series as more plant than human. Not only has she been effectively turned into a blatant rip-off of ComicBook/SwampThing to the point she looks like she's been ''skinned alive'' and has no nipples or genitalia, but her killer (and the person who brought her back) was ''Wally West'', of all people. The follow-up series ''Harley Quinn & Poison Ivy'' only made this more of a DorkAge an AudienceAlienatingEra when it was supposed to fix the damage done to Ivy. After six issues of Harley trying to help Ivy deal with her trauma (as in, trauma she received at a place that was supposed to help her pre-existing trauma), it turns out there are now two Ivys (one calm and gentle, the other angry and vengeful). The calm Ivy tells Harley to escape as she fights and later merges with angry Ivy, in the process only kissing Harley on the forehead before she departs. So after brutalizing Ivy and dehumanizing her, DC treated her fans to six issues of queerbaiting between her and Harley. It then turned out the two Ivys never actually merged at all, with the angry one becoming Queen Ivy while the calm one was abducted and put in stasis so drugs could be harvested from her biochemistry over in ''Catwoman''.]]

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* AudienceAlienatingEra: Her Post-''ComicBook/HeroesInCrisis'' characterization, which amounts to [[spoiler:Ivy being StuffedInTheFridge to give Harley Quinn motivation, only to be brought back from the dead within the same series as more plant than human. Not only has she been effectively turned into a blatant rip-off of ComicBook/SwampThing to the point she looks like she's been ''skinned alive'' and has no nipples or genitalia, but her killer (and the person who brought her back) was ''Wally West'', of all people. The follow-up series ''Harley Quinn & Poison Ivy'' only made this more of a DorkAge when it was supposed to fix the damage done to Ivy. After six issues of Harley trying to help Ivy deal with her trauma (as in, trauma she received at a place that was supposed to help her pre-existing trauma), it turns out there are now two Ivys (one calm and gentle, the other angry and vengeful). The calm Ivy tells Harley to escape as she fights and later merges with angry Ivy, in the process only kissing Harley on the forehead before she departs. So after brutalizing Ivy and dehumanizing her, DC treated her fans to six issues of queerbaiting between her and Harley. It then turned out the two Ivys never actually merged at all, with the angry one becoming Queen Ivy while the calm one was abducted and put in stasis so drugs could be harvested from her biochemistry over in ''Catwoman''.]]



* DorkAge: Her Post-''ComicBook/HeroesInCrisis'' characterization, which amounts to [[spoiler:Ivy being StuffedInTheFridge to give Harley Quinn motivation, only to be brought back from the dead within the same series as more plant than human. Not only has she been effectively turned into a blatant rip-off of ComicBook/SwampThing to the point she looks like she's been ''skinned alive'' and has no nipples or genitalia, but her killer (and the person who brought her back) was ''Wally West'', of all people. The follow-up series ''Harley Quinn & Poison Ivy'' only made this more of a DorkAge when it was supposed to fix the damage done to Ivy. After six issues of Harley trying to help Ivy deal with her trauma (as in, trauma she received at a place that was supposed to help her pre-existing trauma), it turns out there are now two Ivys (one calm and gentle, the other angry and vengeful). The calm Ivy tells Harley to escape as she fights and later merges with angry Ivy, in the process only kissing Harley on the forehead before she departs. So after brutalizing Ivy and dehumanizing her, DC treated her fans to six issues of queerbaiting between her and Harley. It then turned out the two Ivys never actually merged at all, with the angry one becoming Queen Ivy while the calm one was abducted and put in stasis so drugs could be harvested from her biochemistry over in ''Catwoman''.]]
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* LesYay: Her sexuality has been speculated upon for years, especially due to occasions where she has deliberately attempted to seduce female characters as well as men. That's not to even mention her relationship with Harley Quinn, which was later canonized.

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* LesYay: Her sexuality has been speculated upon for years, especially due to occasions where she has deliberately attempted to seduce female characters as well as men. That's not to even mention her relationship with Harley Quinn, which was later canonized. Given that she's part plant, it's arguable she's biologically bisexual.
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* DorkAge: Her Post-''ComicBook/HeroesInCrisis'' characterization, which amounts to [[spoiler:Ivy being StuffedInTheFridge to give Harley Quinn motivation, only to be brought back from the dead within the same series as more plant than human. Not only has she been effectively turned into a blatant rip-off of ComicBook/SwampThing to the point she looks like she's been ''skinned alive'' and has no nipples or genitalia, but her killer (and the person who brought her back) was ''Wally West'', of all people. The follow-up series ''Harley Quinn & Poison Ivy'' only made this more of a DorkAge when it was supposed to fix the damage done to Ivy. After six issues of Harley trying to help Ivy deal with her trauma (as in, trauma she received at a place that was supposed to help her pre-existing trauma), it turns out there are now two Ivys (one calm and gentle, the other angry and vengeful). The calm Ivy tells Harley to escape as she fights and later merges with angry Ivy, in the process only kissing Harley on the forehead before she departs. So after brutalizing Ivy and dehumanizing her, DC treated her fans to six issues of queerbaiting between her and Harley.]]

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* DorkAge: Her Post-''ComicBook/HeroesInCrisis'' characterization, which amounts to [[spoiler:Ivy being StuffedInTheFridge to give Harley Quinn motivation, only to be brought back from the dead within the same series as more plant than human. Not only has she been effectively turned into a blatant rip-off of ComicBook/SwampThing to the point she looks like she's been ''skinned alive'' and has no nipples or genitalia, but her killer (and the person who brought her back) was ''Wally West'', of all people. The follow-up series ''Harley Quinn & Poison Ivy'' only made this more of a DorkAge when it was supposed to fix the damage done to Ivy. After six issues of Harley trying to help Ivy deal with her trauma (as in, trauma she received at a place that was supposed to help her pre-existing trauma), it turns out there are now two Ivys (one calm and gentle, the other angry and vengeful). The calm Ivy tells Harley to escape as she fights and later merges with angry Ivy, in the process only kissing Harley on the forehead before she departs. So after brutalizing Ivy and dehumanizing her, DC treated her fans to six issues of queerbaiting between her and Harley. It then turned out the two Ivys never actually merged at all, with the angry one becoming Queen Ivy while the calm one was abducted and put in stasis so drugs could be harvested from her biochemistry over in ''Catwoman''.]]
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Shipping her with Batman is not popular enough. Her and Harley are canon.


* FanPreferredCouple: It's not uncommon for people to want her to be with either Batman, as a ThirdOptionLoveInterest, or Harley Quinn, as someone who doesn't abuse as Joker does.
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The pothole was unapproved by the thread. Most agreed it should be changed back. So I am changing it back.


* CompleteMonster: Not usually, but in ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'', Ivy, [[FromNobodyToNightmare formerly Dr. Pamela Isley]], relishing in her newfound power, she [[AGodAmI declares herself Mother Nature]] and wishes to start anew for the world. Delighting in murdering numerous men with her painful [[KissOfDeath poison kiss]], Ivy tries to turn Batman and Robin against one another with her pheromones, seemingly murdering the sleeping Nora Fries to provoke [[ComicBook/MrFreeze Nora's husband]] to true despair. Deciding to help him kill every living thing in the world after freezing Gotham solid, Ivy intends to [[InTheirOwnImage enact her own fantasies of creation upon the new world she creates]].

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* CompleteMonster: Not usually, but in ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'', Ivy, [[FromNobodyToNightmare formerly Dr. Pamela Isley]], Isley, relishing in her newfound power, she [[AGodAmI declares herself Mother Nature]] and wishes to start anew for the world. Delighting in murdering numerous men with her painful [[KissOfDeath poison kiss]], Ivy tries to turn Batman and Robin against one another with her pheromones, seemingly murdering the sleeping Nora Fries to provoke [[ComicBook/MrFreeze Nora's husband]] to true despair. Deciding to help him kill every living thing in the world after freezing Gotham solid, Ivy intends to [[InTheirOwnImage enact her own fantasies of creation upon the new world she creates]].
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That version did start out well intentioned, and she clearly fit that trope as a former nobody turning into a nightmare.


* CompleteMonster: Not usually, but in ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'', Ivy, formerly Dr. Pamela Isley, relishing in her newfound power, she [[AGodAmI declares herself Mother Nature]] and wishes to start anew for the world. Delighting in murdering numerous men with her painful [[KissOfDeath poison kiss]], Ivy tries to turn Batman and Robin against one another with her pheromones, seemingly murdering the sleeping Nora Fries to provoke [[ComicBook/MrFreeze Nora's husband]] to true despair. Deciding to help him kill every living thing in the world after freezing Gotham solid, Ivy intends to [[InTheirOwnImage enact her own fantasies of creation upon the new world she creates]].

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* CompleteMonster: Not usually, but in ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'', Ivy, [[FromNobodyToNightmare formerly Dr. Pamela Isley, Isley]], relishing in her newfound power, she [[AGodAmI declares herself Mother Nature]] and wishes to start anew for the world. Delighting in murdering numerous men with her painful [[KissOfDeath poison kiss]], Ivy tries to turn Batman and Robin against one another with her pheromones, seemingly murdering the sleeping Nora Fries to provoke [[ComicBook/MrFreeze Nora's husband]] to true despair. Deciding to help him kill every living thing in the world after freezing Gotham solid, Ivy intends to [[InTheirOwnImage enact her own fantasies of creation upon the new world she creates]].

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* CompleteMonster: Not usually, but in ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'', relishing in her newfound power, she [[AGodAmI declares herself Mother Nature]] and wishes to start anew for the world. Delighting in murdering numerous men with her painful [[KissOfDeath poison kiss]], Ivy tries to turn Batman and Robin against one another with her pheromones, seemingly murdering the sleeping Nora Fries to provoke [[ComicBook/MrFreeze Nora's husband]] to true despair. Deciding to help him kill every living thing in the world after freezing Gotham solid, Ivy intends to [[InTheirOwnImage enact her own fantasies of creation upon the new world she creates]].

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* CompleteMonster: Not usually, but in ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'', Ivy, formerly Dr. Pamela Isley, relishing in her newfound power, she [[AGodAmI declares herself Mother Nature]] and wishes to start anew for the world. Delighting in murdering numerous men with her painful [[KissOfDeath poison kiss]], Ivy tries to turn Batman and Robin against one another with her pheromones, seemingly murdering the sleeping Nora Fries to provoke [[ComicBook/MrFreeze Nora's husband]] to true despair. Deciding to help him kill every living thing in the world after freezing Gotham solid, Ivy intends to [[InTheirOwnImage enact her own fantasies of creation upon the new world she creates]].
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Approved by the thread.

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*CompleteMonster: Not usually, but in ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'', relishing in her newfound power, she [[AGodAmI declares herself Mother Nature]] and wishes to start anew for the world. Delighting in murdering numerous men with her painful [[KissOfDeath poison kiss]], Ivy tries to turn Batman and Robin against one another with her pheromones, seemingly murdering the sleeping Nora Fries to provoke [[ComicBook/MrFreeze Nora's husband]] to true despair. Deciding to help him kill every living thing in the world after freezing Gotham solid, Ivy intends to [[InTheirOwnImage enact her own fantasies of creation upon the new world she creates]].
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* DorkAge: Her Post-''ComicBook/HeroesInCrisis'' characterization, which amounts to [[spoiler:Ivy being StuffedInTheFridge to give Harley Quinn motivation, only to be brought back from the dead within the same series as more plant than human. Not only has she been effectively turned into a blatant rip-off of ComicBook/SwampThing to the point she looks like she's been ''skinned alive'' and has no nipples or genitalia, but her killer (and the person who brought her back) was ''Wally West'', of all people. The follow-up series ''Harley Quinn & Poison Ivy'' only made this more of a DorkAge when it was supposed to fix the damage done to Ivy. After six issues of Harley trying to help Ivy deal with her trauma (as in, trauma she received at a place that was supposed to help her pre-existing trauma), it turns out there are now two Ivys (one calm and gentle, the other angry and vengeful). The calm Ivy tells Harley to escape as she fights and later merges with angry Ivy, in the process only kissing Harley on the forehead before she departs. So after brutalizing Ivy and dehumanizing her, DC treated her fans to six issues of queerbaiting between her and Harley.]]
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* LesYay: Her sexuality has been speculated upon for years, especially due to occasions where she has deliberately attempted to seduce female characters as well as men. That's not to even mention her relationship with Harley Quinn, which was later canonized.

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* LesYay: Her sexuality has been speculated upon for years, especially due to occasions where she has deliberately attempted to seduce female characters as well as men. That's not to even mention her relationship with Harley Quinn, which was later canonized.canonized.
* LGBTFanbase: After Harley and Ivy's relationship was confirmed, Harley's popularity exploded within the LGBTQ community, as well as the {{Polyamory}} community.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: One of Batman's best-known and most endearing archenemies.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: One of Batman's best-known and most endearing archenemies.archenemies, she has gained a massive fanbase among "nontypical" people, particularly LGBTQ people, both for her fluid sexuality and for her flawed morality, which many feel is closer to their own than the cut and dry moralities of Superman and Batman.
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* CantUnhearIt: You're likely to hear either Creator/DianePershing, [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries Tasia Valenza]], or Creator/UmaThurman while reading comics.

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* CantUnhearIt: You're likely to hear either Creator/DianePershing, [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries Tasia Valenza]], or Creator/UmaThurman while reading comics. Time will tell if Creator/LakeBell and her deadpan take on the character shakes things up.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: LOADS of it. Even writers can't quite determine what type of person she is, underneath, whether she's really a decent soul twisted by past abuses and {{Lovecraftian Superpower}}s, or if she's a megalomaniacal terrorist and unrepentant murderer.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: LOADS of it. Even writers can't quite determine what type of person she is, underneath, whether she's really a decent soul twisted by past abuses and {{Lovecraftian Superpower}}s, or if she's a megalomaniacal terrorist and unrepentant murderer. Even her thoughts on Batman are inconsistent between writers, whether she's attracted to him despite being willing to kill him or is genuinely in love with him.



* FanPreferredCouple: It's not uncommon for people to want her to be with Batman or Harley Quinn.
* FoeYay: Has tons of it, due to her seduction powers. Her attraction to Batman is canon, but she's also had it with: every Comicbook/{{Robin}}, Comicbook/{{Batgirl}}, Comicbook/{{Superboy}}, Comicbook/{{Superman}}, and Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}.

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* FanPreferredCouple: It's not uncommon for people to want her to be with Batman either Batman, as a ThirdOptionLoveInterest, or Harley Quinn.
Quinn, as someone who doesn't abuse as Joker does.
* FoeYay: FoeYayShipping: Has tons of it, due to her seduction powers. Her attraction to Batman is canon, canon and he is the most prominent male she's paired with, but she's also had it with: every Comicbook/{{Robin}}, Comicbook/{{Batgirl}}, Comicbook/{{Superboy}}, Comicbook/{{Superman}}, and Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}.
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Moving to Trivia


* LesYay: Her sexuality has been speculated upon for years, especially due to occasions where she has deliberately attempted to seduce female characters as well as men. That's not to even mention her relationship with Harley Quinn, which was later canonized.
* IKnewIt: After roughly two decades of speculation, guesswork and shipping, DC Comics finally announced that Ivy and Harley are, indeed, lovers.

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* LesYay: Her sexuality has been speculated upon for years, especially due to occasions where she has deliberately attempted to seduce female characters as well as men. That's not to even mention her relationship with Harley Quinn, which was later canonized.
* IKnewIt: After roughly two decades of speculation, guesswork and shipping, DC Comics finally announced that Ivy and Harley are, indeed, lovers.
canonized.
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* CantUnhearIt: You're likely to hear either Creator/{{DianePershing}}, [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries Tasia Valenza]], or Creator/{{UmaThurman}} while reading comics.

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* CantUnhearIt: You're likely to hear either Creator/{{DianePershing}}, Creator/DianePershing, [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries Tasia Valenza]], or Creator/{{UmaThurman}} Creator/UmaThurman while reading comics.
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I notice that the person who edited this out also edited out other references to Batman And Robin. If that was the reason for removing the tropes and rewriting the examples, that's pretty petty.


* CantUnhearIt: You're likely to hear either Creator/{{Diane Pershing}} or [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries Tasia Valenza]] while reading comics.

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* CantUnhearIt: You're likely to hear either Creator/{{Diane Pershing}} or Creator/{{DianePershing}}, [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries Tasia Valenza]] Valenza]], or Creator/{{UmaThurman}} while reading comics.
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* CantUnhearIt: You're likely to hear either Creator/{{Diane Pershing}}, [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries Tasia Valenza]], or Creator/{{Uma Thurman}} while reading comics.

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* CantUnhearIt: You're likely to hear either Creator/{{Diane Pershing}}, Pershing}} or [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries Tasia Valenza]], or Creator/{{Uma Thurman}} Valenza]] while reading comics.
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* CantUnhearIt: You're likely to hear either Creator/{{DianePershing}}, [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries Tasia Valenza]], or Creator/{{UmaThurman}} while reading comics.

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* CantUnhearIt: You're likely to hear either Creator/{{DianePershing}}, Creator/{{Diane Pershing}}, [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries Tasia Valenza]], or Creator/{{UmaThurman}} Creator/{{Uma Thurman}} while reading comics.
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* CantUnhearIt: You're likely to hear either Creator/{{DianePershing}}, [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries Tasia Valenza]], or Creator/{{UmaThurman}} while reading comics.
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This is the YMMV page for Comicbook/PoisonIvy, a Creator/DCComics character and nemesis to Comicbook/{{Batman}}.

* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: LOADS of it. Even writers can't quite determine what type of person she is, underneath, whether she's really a decent soul twisted by past abuses and {{Lovecraftian Superpower}}s, or if she's a megalomaniacal terrorist and unrepentant murderer.

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This is the YMMV page for Comicbook/PoisonIvy, ComicBook/PoisonIvy, a Creator/DCComics character and nemesis to Comicbook/{{Batman}}.

* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: LOADS of it. Even writers can't quite determine what type of person she is, underneath, whether she's really a decent soul twisted by past abuses and {{Lovecraftian Superpower}}s, or if she's a megalomaniacal terrorist and unrepentant murderer.
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* FanPreferredCouple: It's not uncommon for people to want her to be with Batman or Harley Quinn.
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This is the YMMV page for Comicbook/PoisonIvy, a DCComics character and nemesis to Comicbook/{{Batman}}.

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This is the YMMV page for Comicbook/PoisonIvy, a DCComics Creator/DCComics character and nemesis to Comicbook/{{Batman}}.



* IKnewIt: After roughly two decades of speculation, guesswork and shipping, DC Comics finally announced that Ivy and Harley are, indeed, lovers.

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* IKnewIt: After roughly two decades of speculation, guesswork and shipping, DC Comics finally announced that Ivy and Harley are, indeed, lovers.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: LOADS of it. Even writers can't quite determine what type of person she is, underneath, whether she's really a decent soul twisted by past abuses and LovecraftianSuperpower[=s=], or if she's a megalomaniacal terrorist and unrepentant murderer.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: LOADS of it. Even writers can't quite determine what type of person she is, underneath, whether she's really a decent soul twisted by past abuses and LovecraftianSuperpower[=s=], {{Lovecraftian Superpower}}s, or if she's a megalomaniacal terrorist and unrepentant murderer.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: LOADS of it. Even writers can't quite determine what type of person she is, underneath, whether she's really a decent soul twisted by past abuses and LovecraftianSuperpowers, or if she's a megalomaniacal terrorist and unrepentant murderer.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: LOADS of it. Even writers can't quite determine what type of person she is, underneath, whether she's really a decent soul twisted by past abuses and LovecraftianSuperpowers, LovecraftianSuperpower[=s=], or if she's a megalomaniacal terrorist and unrepentant murderer.
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* LesYay: Her sexuality has been speculated upon for years, especially due to occasions where she has deliberately attempted to seduce female characters as well as men. That's not to even mention her relationship with Harley Quinn, which was later canonized.
* IKnewIt: After roughly two decades of speculation, guesswork and shipping, DC Comics finally announced that Ivy and Harley are, indeed, lovers.
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This is the YMMV page for Comicbook/PoisonIvy, a DCComics character and nemesis to Comicbook/{{Batman}}.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: LOADS of it. Even writers can't quite determine what type of person she is, underneath, whether she's really a decent soul twisted by past abuses and LovecraftianSuperpowers, or if she's a megalomaniacal terrorist and unrepentant murderer.
* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Her status as a half-naked plant woman is easily her best-known attribute.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: One of Batman's best-known and most endearing archenemies.
* FoeYay: Has tons of it, due to her seduction powers. Her attraction to Batman is canon, but she's also had it with: every Comicbook/{{Robin}}, Comicbook/{{Batgirl}}, Comicbook/{{Superboy}}, Comicbook/{{Superman}}, and Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}.

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