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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** Is Hachiman someone whose Zen-like mentality is something to be inspired by, or is he a petty, narcissistic person who is out of touch with reality?
** Yukino. Is she a MessianicArchetype whose [[AllLovingHero willingness to help people despite the way she is treated by them]] is to be commended? Or is she a hypocrite with an inflated sense of self-worth who sees faults in everyone but herself and often treats them just as poorly, especially in Hachiman's case?
** Yui is either TheTeamNormal who is invaluable in her ability to connect Hachiman and Yukino, or an idiot who lets her feelings take control of her way too easily.
** Yui's actions at the end of Season 2/Volume 11 have sparked much debate. [[spoiler: Did she give Hachiman her cookies to encourage Yukino to [[MatchmakerCrush open up about]] having feelings for Hachiman as well? Or did she lay down an ultimatum: if Yukino wasn't going to pursue Hachiman, [[FriendVersusLover she will]]?]]
* BaseBreakingCharacter: Hachiman himself tends to have split opinions on how he's supposed to be viewed as a character. At least some fans still see him as being right in what he does. Other fans see someone whose methods are supposed to be heavily criticized and deconstructed (especially in the second season). There's a middle ground who sees him as sympathetic but not necessarily right.
** Yukino fits this as well for seemingly being in the right most of the time despite acting almost exactly like Hachiman who's often supposed to be wrong. She also has a dividing effect for her "banter" with Hachiman. Some people see it as friendly snark on snark combat while others see it as her being an ass to Hachiman for little reason. It does not help as some of her comments seem to honestly hurt Hachiman.
* BrokenBase:
** Over which subtitle group is superior between Commie and Crunchyroll. While Commie is a speedsub group known for often inserting memes into their subtitles and having questionable translations, a lot of fans feel their subtitles for Season 2 are actually superior to Crunchyroll's, due to CR's translations often being more literal and not as closely following the Light Novels' dialogue. In particular, their translations for the scene between Yukino and Hachiman in Episode 7 and the "genuine"/"real thing" speech in Episode 8 have received some flak.
** Yukino's scene in Episode 9 was also seen by some as being relatively underwhelming compared to Yui and Iroha's scenes, despite being arguably the most notable scene in that chapter in the light novel. Other people think it's fine the way it is.
** Yukino and Hachiman's second season character designs caused quite a stir in the fandom before ''Zoku!'' even premiered. One side of the fandom decried their new character designs for not being similar to Brain Base's ones, where Hachiman was purposely drawn crudely to emphasize his "grossness" and rotten fish eyes compared to his "more handsome" design in the second season, and where Yukino's first season design was touted to be more unique-looking than her "generic" season 2 design. On the other side however, fans defend Feel's character designs for being closer to [=Ponkan8's=] art and for improving Brain Base's rather low budget designs of the characters. There were even forums dedicated to this argument before they died down in the second season's run.
** Many characters' usage of TheReasonYouSuckSpeech as a device for problem resolution. Many think it's a breath of fresh air and a fitting {{Deconstruction}} of the NiceGuy harem protagonist's normal shtick. Others are more critical and think it [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop sends the wrong message about what's an acceptable conflict-solving strategy]] because [[KarmaHoudini the characters aren't sufficiently punished for their choice of methods or it seems that some characters are punished while others get away. Look at AlternativeCharacterInterpretation and BaseBreakingCharacter for Yukino]].
* ContestedSequel: [[BrokenBase Which season was better, the first or the second one?]] It seems that there are fans who have admitted that the second half of the novels/second season of the anime is not as good as the first. The first managed to strike a reasonable balance between comedy and seriousness, but the second [[CerebusSyndrome dove full-on into relationship drama]], making for an incredibly heavy and depressing series. In addition, some feel [[BrokenAesop the second season breaks the moral of the first]]. On the other hand, there are also a lot of fans who ''loved'' the second season/second half of the novels for leaning heavily on the dramatic side (though the cutting of the comedy is still a point of contention), stating that ''Oregairu. Zoku!'' is one of the most well-written, and neatly done high school dramas in anime ever, often citing Hachiman's [[TearJerker/MyTeenRomanticComedySNAFU famous scene in S2 episode 8]] as ''the'' primary proof of why that's so.
* CrackPairing: Hachiman/Yumiko has gained a lot of supporters from the West, despite there being not many hints of ShipTease between them. This might be due [[FirstGirlWins to]] [[OppositesAttract their]] [[AlphaBitch per]][[ItsAllAboutMe son]][[TheCynic ali]][[BeadyEyedLoser ties]], almost to the point that it's nearly a FanPreferredCouple.
* EpilepticTrees: In a very minor extent; some [[LGBTfanbase fans]] believed that a small picture (in the new announcement of the PS Vita game adaptation in a magazine) consists of Saika holding something which is believed to be a pregnancy test tool, which strongly implies that he's surprisingly; [[MisterSeahorse pregnant with Hachiman's child]]. But in the end, the [[https://imgur.com/a/ad1DX full sized picture turns out that Saika's holding a band-aid]].
* EarWorm: The first season opening theme, [[https://soundcloud.com/argaplek/nagi-yanagi-yukitoki-oregairu "Yukitoki"]], and the closing theme, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om3yizBGGn0 "Hello Alone"]] have some nice tunes to them.
** The variations of the S1 ending theme, [[https://soundcloud.com/kuristina/02-hello-alone-yui-ballade-nao "Hello Alone -Yui Ballade-"]] and [[https://soundcloud.com/sirreyga/hello-alone-band-arrange "Hello Alone -Band arrange-"]] are excellent as well.
** Season 2 busts out a new round of songs with Nagi Yanagi's new and excellent opening theme [[https://soundcloud.com/rahadian-ega-mihawk/opening-oregairu-zoku-s2-nagi-yanagi-harumodoki "Harumodoki"]]. In addition to the new opening theme, Creator/SaoriHayami and Creator/NaoTouyama return for the ending song, [[https://soundcloud.com/rahadian-ega-mihawk/ending-oregairu-zoku-s2-yukino-yui-everyday-world "Everyday World"]] and its variations [[https://soundcloud.com/hasegawa-satoshi/everyday-world-hayami-saori-ballade-arrange "Everyday World -Ballade Arrange- Yukino Solo Ver."]] and [[https://soundcloud.com/noko-sage/everyday-world-yui-ballade-arrange "Everyday World -Ballade Arrange- Yui Solo Ver."]].
* EscapistCharacter: Averted for the male protagonist so far in a harem sense. Somewhat unusual given the genre.
** He is still an escapist character in a Zen way: he gives no damn about the world and calmly lives his existence unhindered by and unhindering nobody. And he makes a strong point to others about his way of life.
** Though the escapism in that is still tampered by the realistic bouts of loneliness he faces due to being something of a social pariah by following his own philosophy (he even lampshades it once or twice). Bouts that come along as often as not (though perhaps it's more frequent in the anime).
** Subverted with Hayato as well. At first, he seems like the ideal EscapistCharacter. He's popular, the ladies love him, talented in sports and academics, and he's a NiceGuy to top it off. But he's actually a BrokenAce and is more flawed than people think.
* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop:
** The way to help someone with a problem is not to encourage them or to be gentle and civil, it's to [[BrutalHonesty point out]] [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech everything that's wrong with them]] [[GoodIsNotNice as harshly as you can]]. Sure, people might hate you for a week or so, but [[StatusQuoIsGod they'll forget about it pretty soon]].
** Alternatively, being cruel to be kind and using BrutalHonesty is only bad [[LonersAreFreaks if you're]] [[TheUnfairSex Hachiman]]. If you're popular, you can be as much of an asshole as you want and get away with it. This is especially notable with Yukino, who's just as cynical as he is, and even more aggressively rude, and personally used TheReasonYouSuckSpeech [[TakingTheBullet to stop Hachiman from doing so]], and therefore should have faced the same consequences as his earlier actions...[[DoubleStandard except she didn't]].
* FanPreferredCouple: Most of the artists from Website/{{Pixiv}} are fond of [[LesYay [=Yui/Yukino=]]].
** [[StudentTeacherRomance [=Hachiman/Shizuka=]]] is a pretty popular pairing.
** Hachiman/Haruno, given their chemistry together, and how she's one of the few people who's openly nice to him.
* HoYay: Hachiman and Saika.
** Also Hachiman and Hayato, both in-universe (thanks to [[YaoiFangirl Hina's]] wild imagination) and in real life (apparently, Pixiv artists liked the idea a bit too much).
* JerkassWoobie: Both Hachiman and Yukino. Despite their abrasive personalities and cynical outlook on the world, they're both fundamentally lonely people who had to deal with isolation, rejections and bullying.
* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Hachiman, ironically enough. Besides his main ships with [[DefrostingIceQueen Yukino]], [[GenkiGirl Yui]], and [[SempaiKouhai Iroha]] (all three of whom are the biggest ones), there're people who ship him with [[JapaneseDelinquent Saki]], (especially for the light novel readers) [[TeacherStudentRomance Hiratsuka-sensei]], [[GayOption Totsuka]], Yukino's sister [[TheGadfly Haruno]], [[YaoiFangirl Ebina]], [[AlphaBitch Yumiko]], heck, even '''Yui's mom'''.
* LesYay: Yukino and Yui.
* MemeticMutation:
** Yandere Yui after the Season 2.
** ''Sore aru!''[[labelnote:Explanation]] Said by Kaori in season 2 and translated as ''Preach it!'' in one sub, is now a popular image quote used by the fandom to show approval of, and agreement with, this or that idea.[[/labelnote]]
** Creator/NicoNicoDouga gave us gold songs like ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhryYwOLTd0 Senpai Song]]'' and ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEHs2uHq52k Huh? Huh!?]]''[[note]]Both starred by Iroha, mostly the first one[[/note]], which also have [[EverybodyDoTheEndlessLoop long versions of both songs]] if you [[JustOneMoreLevel got addicted to them]].
* MisaimedFandom:
** Some fans see Hachiman as a rightfully cynical AntiHero who is almost always correct in his observations of others. This ignores the fact that he often is called out for his methods and over-generalizations of others. By the second season, its made increasingly clear that Hachiman's attitude and methods to solve problems are causing a lot of stress with his club and within himself. By episode 8 of Season 2, [[spoiler: he openly admits that it was arrogant for him to think like that in the first place]]
** Similarly, the audience often takes Hayama's reputation as a nice guy at face value (which Hachiman does at times as well). While he has admirable attributes, it's made clear in the novels that he's flawed (if not as much as Hachiman).
* OneSceneWonder: Yui's mom seems to have made quite the impression among the fanbase despite appearing for only a few minutes in the last episode of season 2.
* OneTrueThreesome: Some fans ship the three leads together.
* SleeperHit: Overlooked at first due to mediocre animation and being labelled as harem romance comedy. Highly appraised later by virtue of great characters and thorough exploration of their psychology and motivations.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Hachiman's cynicism is meant to show how out of touch he is with reality, but his reasoning can be seen as absolutely correct in-universe. It's mainly because GoodIsNotNice is shown to ''work wonders''; he's the only character to actually receive any backlash from being harsh. All others who have called someone else out have gotten what they wanted, and those who've been called out have bettered themselves.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Yukino. While she does ultimately have good intentions, the unrelenting scorn she shows for Hachiman makes her come off like a total jerk, often being nasty to him when he's done nothing at all. It doesn't help that she's guilty of the very things she calls him out for, such as his arrogance, cynicism, occasional naivety, and refusal to change himself for the better whereas she's never called out for any of these things.
* UnpopularPopularCharacter: Hachiman himself is an antisocial loner barely acknowledged by the rest of his classmates, but is considered one of the best light novel protagonists in recent years.
* {{Woolseyism}}: Title change to "My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU". Short, snarky and precise.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** Is Hachiman someone whose Zen-like mentality is something to be inspired by, or is he a petty, narcissistic person who is out of touch with reality?
** Yukino. Is she a MessianicArchetype whose [[AllLovingHero willingness to help people despite the way she is treated by them]] is to be commended? Or is she a hypocrite with an inflated sense of self-worth who sees faults in everyone but herself and often treats them just as poorly, especially in Hachiman's case?
** Yui is either TheTeamNormal who is invaluable in her ability to connect Hachiman and Yukino, or an idiot who lets her feelings take control of her way too easily.
** Yui's actions at the end of Season 2/Volume 11 have sparked much debate. [[spoiler: Did she give Hachiman her cookies to encourage Yukino to [[MatchmakerCrush open up about]] having feelings for Hachiman as well? Or did she lay down an ultimatum: if Yukino wasn't going to pursue Hachiman, [[FriendVersusLover she will]]?]]
* BaseBreakingCharacter: Hachiman himself tends to have split opinions on how he's supposed to be viewed as a character. At least some fans still see him as being right in what he does. Other fans see someone whose methods are supposed to be heavily criticized and deconstructed (especially in the second season). There's a middle ground who sees him as sympathetic but not necessarily right.
** Yukino fits this as well for seemingly being in the right most of the time despite acting almost exactly like Hachiman who's often supposed to be wrong. She also has a dividing effect for her "banter" with Hachiman. Some people see it as friendly snark on snark combat while others see it as her being an ass to Hachiman for little reason. It does not help as some of her comments seem to honestly hurt Hachiman.
* BrokenBase:
** Over which subtitle group is superior between Commie and Crunchyroll. While Commie is a speedsub group known for often inserting memes into their subtitles and having questionable translations, a lot of fans feel their subtitles for Season 2 are actually superior to Crunchyroll's, due to CR's translations often being more literal and not as closely following the Light Novels' dialogue. In particular, their translations for the scene between Yukino and Hachiman in Episode 7 and the "genuine"/"real thing" speech in Episode 8 have received some flak.
** Yukino's scene in Episode 9 was also seen by some as being relatively underwhelming compared to Yui and Iroha's scenes, despite being arguably the most notable scene in that chapter in the light novel. Other people think it's fine the way it is.
** Yukino and Hachiman's second season character designs caused quite a stir in the fandom before ''Zoku!'' even premiered. One side of the fandom decried their new character designs for not being similar to Brain Base's ones, where Hachiman was purposely drawn crudely to emphasize his "grossness" and rotten fish eyes compared to his "more handsome" design in the second season, and where Yukino's first season design was touted to be more unique-looking than her "generic" season 2 design. On the other side however, fans defend Feel's character designs for being closer to [=Ponkan8's=] art and for improving Brain Base's rather low budget designs of the characters. There were even forums dedicated to this argument before they died down in the second season's run.
** Many characters' usage of TheReasonYouSuckSpeech as a device for problem resolution. Many think it's a breath of fresh air and a fitting {{Deconstruction}} of the NiceGuy harem protagonist's normal shtick. Others are more critical and think it [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop sends the wrong message about what's an acceptable conflict-solving strategy]] because [[KarmaHoudini the characters aren't sufficiently punished for their choice of methods or it seems that some characters are punished while others get away. Look at AlternativeCharacterInterpretation and BaseBreakingCharacter for Yukino]].
* ContestedSequel: [[BrokenBase Which season was better, the first or the second one?]] It seems that there are fans who have admitted that the second half of the novels/second season of the anime is not as good as the first. The first managed to strike a reasonable balance between comedy and seriousness, but the second [[CerebusSyndrome dove full-on into relationship drama]], making for an incredibly heavy and depressing series. In addition, some feel [[BrokenAesop the second season breaks the moral of the first]]. On the other hand, there are also a lot of fans who ''loved'' the second season/second half of the novels for leaning heavily on the dramatic side (though the cutting of the comedy is still a point of contention), stating that ''Oregairu. Zoku!'' is one of the most well-written, and neatly done high school dramas in anime ever, often citing Hachiman's [[TearJerker/MyTeenRomanticComedySNAFU famous scene in S2 episode 8]] as ''the'' primary proof of why that's so.
* CrackPairing: Hachiman/Yumiko has gained a lot of supporters from the West, despite there being not many hints of ShipTease between them. This might be due [[FirstGirlWins to]] [[OppositesAttract their]] [[AlphaBitch per]][[ItsAllAboutMe son]][[TheCynic ali]][[BeadyEyedLoser ties]], almost to the point that it's nearly a FanPreferredCouple.
* EpilepticTrees: In a very minor extent; some [[LGBTfanbase fans]] believed that a small picture (in the new announcement of the PS Vita game adaptation in a magazine) consists of Saika holding something which is believed to be a pregnancy test tool, which strongly implies that he's surprisingly; [[MisterSeahorse pregnant with Hachiman's child]]. But in the end, the [[https://imgur.com/a/ad1DX full sized picture turns out that Saika's holding a band-aid]].
* EarWorm: The first season opening theme, [[https://soundcloud.com/argaplek/nagi-yanagi-yukitoki-oregairu "Yukitoki"]], and the closing theme, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om3yizBGGn0 "Hello Alone"]] have some nice tunes to them.
** The variations of the S1 ending theme, [[https://soundcloud.com/kuristina/02-hello-alone-yui-ballade-nao "Hello Alone -Yui Ballade-"]] and [[https://soundcloud.com/sirreyga/hello-alone-band-arrange "Hello Alone -Band arrange-"]] are excellent as well.
** Season 2 busts out a new round of songs with Nagi Yanagi's new and excellent opening theme [[https://soundcloud.com/rahadian-ega-mihawk/opening-oregairu-zoku-s2-nagi-yanagi-harumodoki "Harumodoki"]]. In addition to the new opening theme, Creator/SaoriHayami and Creator/NaoTouyama return for the ending song, [[https://soundcloud.com/rahadian-ega-mihawk/ending-oregairu-zoku-s2-yukino-yui-everyday-world "Everyday World"]] and its variations [[https://soundcloud.com/hasegawa-satoshi/everyday-world-hayami-saori-ballade-arrange "Everyday World -Ballade Arrange- Yukino Solo Ver."]] and [[https://soundcloud.com/noko-sage/everyday-world-yui-ballade-arrange "Everyday World -Ballade Arrange- Yui Solo Ver."]].
* EscapistCharacter: Averted for the male protagonist so far in a harem sense. Somewhat unusual given the genre.
** He is still an escapist character in a Zen way: he gives no damn about the world and calmly lives his existence unhindered by and unhindering nobody. And he makes a strong point to others about his way of life.
** Though the escapism in that is still tampered by the realistic bouts of loneliness he faces due to being something of a social pariah by following his own philosophy (he even lampshades it once or twice). Bouts that come along as often as not (though perhaps it's more frequent in the anime).
** Subverted with Hayato as well. At first, he seems like the ideal EscapistCharacter. He's popular, the ladies love him, talented in sports and academics, and he's a NiceGuy to top it off. But he's actually a BrokenAce and is more flawed than people think.
* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop:
** The way to help someone with a problem is not to encourage them or to be gentle and civil, it's to [[BrutalHonesty point out]] [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech everything that's wrong with them]] [[GoodIsNotNice as harshly as you can]]. Sure, people might hate you for a week or so, but [[StatusQuoIsGod they'll forget about it pretty soon]].
** Alternatively, being cruel to be kind and using BrutalHonesty is only bad [[LonersAreFreaks if you're]] [[TheUnfairSex Hachiman]]. If you're popular, you can be as much of an asshole as you want and get away with it. This is especially notable with Yukino, who's just as cynical as he is, and even more aggressively rude, and personally used TheReasonYouSuckSpeech [[TakingTheBullet to stop Hachiman from doing so]], and therefore should have faced the same consequences as his earlier actions...[[DoubleStandard except she didn't]].
* FanPreferredCouple: Most of the artists from Website/{{Pixiv}} are fond of [[LesYay [=Yui/Yukino=]]].
** [[StudentTeacherRomance [=Hachiman/Shizuka=]]] is a pretty popular pairing.
** Hachiman/Haruno, given their chemistry together, and how she's one of the few people who's openly nice to him.
* HoYay: Hachiman and Saika.
** Also Hachiman and Hayato, both in-universe (thanks to [[YaoiFangirl Hina's]] wild imagination) and in real life (apparently, Pixiv artists liked the idea a bit too much).
* JerkassWoobie: Both Hachiman and Yukino. Despite their abrasive personalities and cynical outlook on the world, they're both fundamentally lonely people who had to deal with isolation, rejections and bullying.
* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Hachiman, ironically enough. Besides his main ships with [[DefrostingIceQueen Yukino]], [[GenkiGirl Yui]], and [[SempaiKouhai Iroha]] (all three of whom are the biggest ones), there're people who ship him with [[JapaneseDelinquent Saki]], (especially for the light novel readers) [[TeacherStudentRomance Hiratsuka-sensei]], [[GayOption Totsuka]], Yukino's sister [[TheGadfly Haruno]], [[YaoiFangirl Ebina]], [[AlphaBitch Yumiko]], heck, even '''Yui's mom'''.
* LesYay: Yukino and Yui.
* MemeticMutation:
** Yandere Yui after the Season 2.
** ''Sore aru!''[[labelnote:Explanation]] Said by Kaori in season 2 and translated as ''Preach it!'' in one sub, is now a popular image quote used by the fandom to show approval of, and agreement with, this or that idea.[[/labelnote]]
** Creator/NicoNicoDouga gave us gold songs like ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhryYwOLTd0 Senpai Song]]'' and ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEHs2uHq52k Huh? Huh!?]]''[[note]]Both starred by Iroha, mostly the first one[[/note]], which also have [[EverybodyDoTheEndlessLoop long versions of both songs]] if you [[JustOneMoreLevel got addicted to them]].
* MisaimedFandom:
** Some fans see Hachiman as a rightfully cynical AntiHero who is almost always correct in his observations of others. This ignores the fact that he often is called out for his methods and over-generalizations of others. By the second season, its made increasingly clear that Hachiman's attitude and methods to solve problems are causing a lot of stress with his club and within himself. By episode 8 of Season 2, [[spoiler: he openly admits that it was arrogant for him to think like that in the first place]]
** Similarly, the audience often takes Hayama's reputation as a nice guy at face value (which Hachiman does at times as well). While he has admirable attributes, it's made clear in the novels that he's flawed (if not as much as Hachiman).
* OneSceneWonder: Yui's mom seems to have made quite the impression among the fanbase despite appearing for only a few minutes in the last episode of season 2.
* OneTrueThreesome: Some fans ship the three leads together.
* SleeperHit: Overlooked at first due to mediocre animation and being labelled as harem romance comedy. Highly appraised later by virtue of great characters and thorough exploration of their psychology and motivations.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Hachiman's cynicism is meant to show how out of touch he is with reality, but his reasoning can be seen as absolutely correct in-universe. It's mainly because GoodIsNotNice is shown to ''work wonders''; he's the only character to actually receive any backlash from being harsh. All others who have called someone else out have gotten what they wanted, and those who've been called out have bettered themselves.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Yukino. While she does ultimately have good intentions, the unrelenting scorn she shows for Hachiman makes her come off like a total jerk, often being nasty to him when he's done nothing at all. It doesn't help that she's guilty of the very things she calls him out for, such as his arrogance, cynicism, occasional naivety, and refusal to change himself for the better whereas she's never called out for any of these things.
* UnpopularPopularCharacter: Hachiman himself is an antisocial loner barely acknowledged by the rest of his classmates, but is considered one of the best light novel protagonists in recent years.
* {{Woolseyism}}: Title change to "My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU". Short, snarky and precise.
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* EpilepticTrees: In a very minor extent; some fans believe that a small picture (in the new announcement of the PS Vita game adaptation in a magazine) consists of Saika holding something which is believed to be a pregnancy test tool, which strongly implies that he's surprisingly; [[MisterSeahorse pregnant with Hachiman's child]]. But in the end, This was {{Jossed}} as the [[https://imgur.com/a/ad1DX full-sized picture turns out that Saika's holding a band-aid]].

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* EpilepticTrees: In a very minor extent; some fans believe [[LGBTfanbase fans]] believed that a small picture (in the new announcement of the PS Vita game adaptation in a magazine) consists of Saika holding something which is believed to be a pregnancy test tool, which strongly implies that he's surprisingly; [[MisterSeahorse pregnant with Hachiman's child]]. But in the end, This was {{Jossed}} as the [[https://imgur.com/a/ad1DX full-sized full sized picture turns out that Saika's holding a band-aid]].
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* EpilepticTrees: In a very minor extent; some [[LGBTfanbase fans]] believed that a small picture (in the new announcement of the PS Vita game adaptation in a magazine) consists of Saika holding something which is believed to be a pregnancy test tool, which strongly implies that he's surprisingly; [[MisterSeahorse pregnant with Hachiman's child]]. But in the end, the [[https://imgur.com/a/ad1DX full sized picture turns out that Saika's holding a band-aid]].

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* EpilepticTrees: In a very minor extent; some [[LGBTfanbase fans]] believed fans believe that a small picture (in the new announcement of the PS Vita game adaptation in a magazine) consists of Saika holding something which is believed to be a pregnancy test tool, which strongly implies that he's surprisingly; [[MisterSeahorse pregnant with Hachiman's child]]. But in the end, This was {{Jossed}} as the [[https://imgur.com/a/ad1DX full sized full-sized picture turns out that Saika's holding a band-aid]].

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* MisaimedFandom: Some fans see Hachiman as a rightfully cynical AntiHero who is almost always correct in his observations of others. This ignores the fact that he often is called out for his methods and over-generalizations of others. By the second season, its made increasingly clear that Hachiman's attitude and methods to solve problems are causing a lot of stress with his club and within himself. By episode 8 of Season 2, [[spoiler: he openly admits that it was arrogant for him to think like that in the first place]]

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** Yukino fits this as well for seemingly being in the right most of the time despite acting almost exactly like Hachiman who's often supposed to be wrong. She also has a dividing effect for her "banter" with Hachiman. Some people see it as friendly snark on snark combat while others see it as her being an ass to Hachiman for little reason. It does not help as some of her comment comments seem to honest honestly hurt HachimanHachiman.
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** Yukino fits this as well for seemingly being in the right most of the time despite acting almost exactly like Hachiman who's often supposed to be wrong. She also has a dividing effect for her "banter" with Hachiman. Some people see it as friendly snark on snark combat while others see it as her being an ass to Hachiman for little reason. It does not help as some of her comment seem to honest hurt Hachiman



** Many characters' usage of TheReasonYouSuckSpeech as a device for problem resolution. Many think it's a breath of fresh air and a fitting {{Deconstruction}} of the NiceGuy harem protagonist's normal shtick. Others are more critical and think it [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop sends the wrong message about what's an acceptable conflict-solving strategy]] because [[KarmaHoudini the characters aren't sufficiently punished for their choice of methods]].

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** Many characters' usage of TheReasonYouSuckSpeech as a device for problem resolution. Many think it's a breath of fresh air and a fitting {{Deconstruction}} of the NiceGuy harem protagonist's normal shtick. Others are more critical and think it [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop sends the wrong message about what's an acceptable conflict-solving strategy]] because [[KarmaHoudini the characters aren't sufficiently punished for their choice of methods]].methods or it seems that some characters are punished while others get away. Look at AlternativeCharacterInterpretation and BaseBreakingCharacter for Yukino]].



* CrackPairing: Hachiman/Yumiko has gained a lot of supporters from the West, despite there being no hints of ShipTease between them. This might be due to [[OppositesAttract their]] [[AlphaBitch per]][[ItsAllAboutMe son]][[TheCynic ali]][[BeadyEyedLoser ties]], almost to the point that it's nearly a FanPreferredCouple.

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* CrackPairing: Hachiman/Yumiko has gained a lot of supporters from the West, despite there being no not many hints of ShipTease between them. This might be due to [[FirstGirlWins to]] [[OppositesAttract their]] [[AlphaBitch per]][[ItsAllAboutMe son]][[TheCynic ali]][[BeadyEyedLoser ties]], almost to the point that it's nearly a FanPreferredCouple.FanPreferredCouple.

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* EpilepticTrees: In a very minor extent; some [[LGBTfanbase fans]] believed that a small picture (in the new announcement of the PS Vita game adaptation in a magazine) consists of Saika holding something which is believed to be a pregnancy test tool, which strongly implies that he's surprisingly; [[MisterSeahorse pregnant with Hachiman's child]]. But in the end, the [[https://imgur.com/a/ad1DX full sized picture turns out that Saika's holding a band-aid]].



* HypeBacklash: In a very minor extent; some [[LGBTfanbase fans]] believed that a small picture (in the new announcement of the PS Vita game adaptation in a magazine) consists of Saika holding something which is believed to be a pregnancy test tool, which strongly implies that he's surprisingly; [[MisterSeahorse pregnant with Hachiman's child]]. But in the end, the [[https://imgur.com/a/ad1DX full sized picture turns out that Saika's holding a band-aid]].

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** Averted with Hayato as well. At first, he seems like the ideal EscapistCharacter. He's popular, the ladies love him, talented in sports and academics, and he's a NiceGuy to top it off. But he's actually a BrokenAce and is more flawed than people think.

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** Averted Subverted with Hayato as well. At first, he seems like the ideal EscapistCharacter. He's popular, the ladies love him, talented in sports and academics, and he's a NiceGuy to top it off. But he's actually a BrokenAce and is more flawed than people think.



* FanNickname: In some circles Hachiman Hikigaya is better known as the 8man, Hikki, Batman, (The) Dark Knight or some combination.
** [[MemeticMutation Which tends to result in Hachiman getting photoshopped to look like Batman in most screen shots he's in.]]
** Also, the series itself is called in short as ''Yahari'' for some fans.
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* HypeBacklash: In a very minor extent; some [[LGBTfanbase fans]] believed that a small picture (in the new announcement of the PS Vita game adaptation in a magazine) consists of Saika holding something which is believed to be a pregnancy test tool, which strongly implies that he's surprisingly; [[MisterSeahorse pregnant with Hachiman's child]]. But in the end, the full sized picture turns out that Saika's holding a band-aid.

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* HypeBacklash: In a very minor extent; some [[LGBTfanbase fans]] believed that a small picture (in the new announcement of the PS Vita game adaptation in a magazine) consists of Saika holding something which is believed to be a pregnancy test tool, which strongly implies that he's surprisingly; [[MisterSeahorse pregnant with Hachiman's child]]. But in the end, the [[https://imgur.com/a/ad1DX full sized picture turns out that Saika's holding a band-aid.band-aid]].
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* HypeBacklash: In a very minor extent; some [[LGBTfanbase fans]] believed that a small picture (in the new announcement of the PS Vita game adaptation in a magazine) consists of Saika holding something which is believed to be a pregnancy test tool, which strongly implies that he's surprisingly; [[MisterSeahorse pregnant with Hachiman's child]]. But in the end, the full sized picture turns out that Saika's fingers is actually stuck by a finger trap.

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* HypeBacklash: In a very minor extent; some [[LGBTfanbase fans]] believed that a small picture (in the new announcement of the PS Vita game adaptation in a magazine) consists of Saika holding something which is believed to be a pregnancy test tool, which strongly implies that he's surprisingly; [[MisterSeahorse pregnant with Hachiman's child]]. But in the end, the full sized picture turns out that Saika's fingers is actually stuck by holding a finger trap.band-aid.
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* HypeBacklash: In a very minor extent; some [[LGBTfanbase fans]] believed that a small picture in the new announcement of the PS Vita game adaptation in a magazine consists of Saika, which they believed that he weld a pregnancy test tool, which strongly implies that he's [[MisterSeahorse "pregnant"]] (mostly with Hachiman's). But in the end, the full sized picture turns out that Saika's fingers is actually stuck by a finger trap.

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* HypeBacklash: In a very minor extent; some [[LGBTfanbase fans]] believed that a small picture in (in the new announcement of the PS Vita game adaptation in a magazine magazine) consists of Saika, Saika holding something which they is believed that he weld to be a pregnancy test tool, which strongly implies that he's surprisingly; [[MisterSeahorse "pregnant"]] (mostly pregnant with Hachiman's).Hachiman's child]]. But in the end, the full sized picture turns out that Saika's fingers is actually stuck by a finger trap.
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* HypeBacklash: In a very minor extent; some [[LGBTfanbase fans]] believed that a small picture in the new announcement of the PS Vita game adaptation in a magazine consists of Saika, which they believed that he weld a pregnancy test tool, which strongly implies that he's [[MisterSeahorse "pregnant"]] (mostly with Hachiman's). But in the end, the full sized picture turns out that Saika's fingers is actually stuck by a finger trap.
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* FanPreferredCouple: Most of the artists from {{Pixiv}} are fond of [[LesYay [=Yui/Yukino=]]].

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* FanPreferredCouple: Most of the artists from {{Pixiv}} Website/{{Pixiv}} are fond of [[LesYay [=Yui/Yukino=]]].

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* CrackPairing: Hachiman/Yumiko has gained a lot of supporters from the West, despite there being no hints of ShipTease between them. This might be due to [[OppositesAttract their]] [[AlphaBitch per]][[ItsAllAboutMe son]][[TheCynic ali]][[BeadyEyedLoser ties]], almost to the point that it's nearly a FanPreferredCouple.



** Hachiman/Yumiko has gained a lot of supporters from the West, despite there being no hints of ShipTease between them. This might be due to [[OppositesAttract their]] [[AlphaBitch per]][[ItsAllAboutMe son]][[TheCynic ali]][[BeadyEyedLoser ties]].
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Hachiman's cynicism is meant to show how out of touch he is with reality, but his reasoning can be seen as absolutely correct in-universe. It's mainly because GoodIsNotNice is shown to ''work wonders''; he's the only character to actually receive any backlash from being harsh. All others who have called someone else out have gotten what they wanted, and those who've been called out have bettered themselves.
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** Hachiman/Yumiko has gained a lot of supporters from the West, despite there being no hints of ShipTease between them. This might be due to [[OppositesAttract their]] [[AlphaBitch per]][[ItsAllAboutMe son]][[TheCynic ali]][[DeadpanSnarker ties]].

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** Hachiman/Yumiko has gained a lot of supporters from the West, despite there being no hints of ShipTease between them. This might be due to [[OppositesAttract their]] [[AlphaBitch per]][[ItsAllAboutMe son]][[TheCynic ali]][[DeadpanSnarker ali]][[BeadyEyedLoser ties]].
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** Hachiman/Yumiko has gained a lot of supporters from the West, despite there being no hints of ShipTease between them. This might be due to [[OppositesAttract their]] [[AlphaBitch per]][[ItsAllAboutMe son]][[TheCynic ali]][[DeadpanSnarker ties]]

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** Hachiman/Yumiko has gained a lot of supporters from the West, despite there being no hints of ShipTease between them. This might be due to [[OppositesAttract their]] [[AlphaBitch per]][[ItsAllAboutMe son]][[TheCynic ali]][[DeadpanSnarker ties]]ties]].

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