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** The aforementioned [[NakedPeopleAreFunny naked guard]] that enters the sauna while Snake is waiting for the brooch to change shape. Doubly humorous if the player decides to have Snake shoot the guard while exiting.

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** The aforementioned [[NakedPeopleAreFunny naked guard]] that enters the sauna while Snake is waiting for the brooch to change shape. Doubly humorous funny if the player decides to have Snake shoot the guard while exiting.



** Big Boss' parting words to Solid Snake before their final battle now has a rather tragic flavor to them, as they retroactively reflect The Boss' parting words to Naked Snake in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater''. It now shows how Naked Snake at this point in his life has gone full circle as a character and is actively repeating the mistakes of his old mentor:

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** Big Boss' parting words to Solid Snake before their final battle now has have a rather tragic flavor to them, as they retroactively reflect The Boss' parting words to Naked Snake in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater''. It now shows how Naked Snake at this point in his life has gone full circle as a character and is actively repeating the mistakes of his old mentor:
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** Big Boss' parting words to Solid Snake before their final battle now has a rather tragic flavor to them, as they retroactively reflects The Boss' parting words to Naked Snake in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater''. It now shows how Naked Snake at this point in his life has gone full circle as a character and is actively repeating the mistakes of his old mentor:

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** Big Boss' parting words to Solid Snake before their final battle now has a rather tragic flavor to them, as they retroactively reflects reflect The Boss' parting words to Naked Snake in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater''. It now shows how Naked Snake at this point in his life has gone full circle as a character and is actively repeating the mistakes of his old mentor:
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* UnfortunateCharacterDesign: The Metal Gear D has [[GatlingGood a rotary cannon]] mounted right between its legs, resulting in many dick jokes.

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* UnfortunateCharacterDesign: The Metal Gear D has [[GatlingGood a rotary cannon]] mounted right between its legs, resulting in many ''many'' dick jokes.
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** Calling Master Miller during the fight with Big Boss will have him state that Big Boss was a monster. Granted, it's in the context of Big Boss's SuperStrength, but this line becomes significantly harsher after ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'', where he was a former ally of Big Boss and one of the founders of Outer Heaven. And in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' where [[spoiler:he seeks revenge on Big Boss for cutting ties with him and his friends so that Big Boss can create Outer Heaven on his own, which is exactly why Kaz decided to become Solid Snake's mentor]].

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** Calling Master Miller during the fight with Big Boss will have him state that Big Boss was a monster. Granted, it's in the context of Big Boss's SuperStrength, but this line becomes significantly ''significantly'' harsher after ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'', where he was a former ally of Big Boss and one of the founders of Outer Heaven. And in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' where [[spoiler:he seeks revenge on Big Boss for cutting ties with him and his friends so that Big Boss can create Outer Heaven on his own, which is exactly why Kaz decided to become Solid Snake's mentor]].
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** Calling Master Miller during the fight with Big Boss will have him state that Big Boss was a monster. Granted, it's in the context of Big Boss's SuperStrength, but this line becomes significantly harsher after ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'', where he was a former ally of Big Boss and one of the founders of Outer Heaven. And in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' where [[spoiler:He seeks revenge on Big Boss for cutting ties with him and his friends so that he can create Outer Heaven on his own, which is exactly why he decided to become Solid Snake's mentor]].

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** Calling Master Miller during the fight with Big Boss will have him state that Big Boss was a monster. Granted, it's in the context of Big Boss's SuperStrength, but this line becomes significantly harsher after ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'', where he was a former ally of Big Boss and one of the founders of Outer Heaven. And in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' where [[spoiler:He [[spoiler:he seeks revenge on Big Boss for cutting ties with him and his friends so that he Big Boss can create Outer Heaven on his own, which is exactly why he Kaz decided to become Solid Snake's mentor]].



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** Calling Master Miller during the fight with Big Boss will have him state that Big Boss was a monster. Granted, it's in the context of Big Boss's SuperStrength, but this line becomes significantly harsher after ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'', where he was a former ally of Big Boss and one of the founders of Outer Heaven. Likewise, calling George Kasler during the fight has him mentioning a false rumor that Big Boss has cybernetic limbs to replace the ones he lost during the fight in the previous game. ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' revealed that he ''did'' lose an arm and had it replaced with a mechanical one, long before the events of the first game. [[spoiler:Of course, that wasn't actually Big Boss. However, in an almost hilarious turn, the "Big Boss" of the first game, Venom Snake, the BodyDouble, ''did'' have a bionic arm.]]

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** Calling Master Miller during the fight with Big Boss will have him state that Big Boss was a monster. Granted, it's in the context of Big Boss's SuperStrength, but this line becomes significantly harsher after ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'', where he was a former ally of Big Boss and one of the founders of Outer Heaven. And in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' where [[spoiler:He seeks revenge on Big Boss for cutting ties with him and his friends so that he can create Outer Heaven on his own, which is exactly why he decided to become Solid Snake's mentor]].
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Likewise, calling George Kasler during the fight has him mentioning a false rumor that Big Boss has cybernetic limbs to replace the ones he lost during the fight in the previous game. ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' revealed that he ''did'' lose an arm and had it replaced with a mechanical one, long before the events of the first game. [[spoiler:Of course, that wasn't actually Big Boss. However, in an almost hilarious turn, the "Big Boss" of the first game, Venom Snake, the BodyDouble, ''did'' have a bionic arm.]]
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** In the official translated version of the game, after Holly White informs you she's been captured, she ends her transmission with [[CasualDangerDialog "I'll be waiting!"]]

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** In the official translated version of the game, after Holly White informs you she's been captured, she ends her transmission with [[CasualDangerDialog [[CasualDangerDialogue "I'll be waiting!"]]

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[AwesomeMusic/MetalGear See here]].
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: While Snake is hiding in the sauna, waiting for Gustava's brooch to change shape, a naked guard enters the sauna, hangs out a little bit, and then leaves. Granted, the guard is probably there to ensure the player keeps Snake in the sauna the right amount of time, but it's still a pretty random moment.[[note]]When the game was officially released in North America, the sprite of the guard was altered so he's now wearing a towel.[[/note]]
* EvenBetterSequel: Or SurprisinglyImprovedSequel for those who weren't impressed by ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear|1}}''. This game features a more complex plot, better graphics, the introduction of the radar, the ability to crawl, enhanced guard AI, and tons of little details. The improvement is so vast that first time players have been stunned by ''the opening credits sequence''.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[AwesomeMusic/MetalGear See here]].
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: While Snake is hiding in the sauna, waiting for Gustava's brooch to change shape, a naked guard enters the sauna, hangs out a little bit, and then leaves. Granted, the guard is probably there to ensure the player keeps Snake in the sauna the right amount of time, but it's still a pretty random moment.[[note]]When the game was officially released in North America, the sprite of the guard was altered so that he's now instead wearing a towel.[[/note]]
* EvenBetterSequel: Or SurprisinglyImprovedSequel for those who weren't impressed by ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear|1}}''. This game features a more complex plot, better graphics, the introduction of the radar, the ability to crawl, enhanced guard AI, A.I., and tons of little details. The improvement is so vast that first time players have been stunned by ''the opening credits sequence''.



* GrowingTheBeard: This is where the ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' franchise starts to resemble the ''Metal Gear'' franchise many fans [[SequelDisplacement first got introduced to]] with ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid''. The first one is largely celebrated for introducing the series, but this one established many of the storytelling conventions the series would become known for.

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* GrowingTheBeard: This is where the ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' franchise starts to resemble the ''Metal Gear'' franchise many fans [[SequelDisplacement first got were introduced to]] with ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid''. The first one is largely celebrated for introducing the series, but this one established many of the storytelling conventions the series would become known for.



** Calling Master Miller during the fight with Big Boss will have him state that Big Boss was a monster. Granted, it's in the context of Big Boss's SuperStrength, but this line becomes significantly harsher after ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'', where he was a former ally of Big Boss and one of the founders of Outer Heaven. Likewise, calling George Kasler during the fight has him mentioning a false rumor that Big Boss has cybernetic limbs to replace the ones he lost during the fight in the previous game. ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' revealed that he ''did'' lose an arm and had it replaced with a mechanical one, long before the events of the first game. [[spoiler: Of course, that wasn't actually Big Boss. However, in an almost hilarious turn, the "Big Boss" of the first game, Venom Snake, the BodyDouble, ''did'' have a bionic arm.]]

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** Calling Master Miller during the fight with Big Boss will have him state that Big Boss was a monster. Granted, it's in the context of Big Boss's SuperStrength, but this line becomes significantly harsher after ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'', where he was a former ally of Big Boss and one of the founders of Outer Heaven. Likewise, calling George Kasler during the fight has him mentioning a false rumor that Big Boss has cybernetic limbs to replace the ones he lost during the fight in the previous game. ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' revealed that he ''did'' lose an arm and had it replaced with a mechanical one, long before the events of the first game. [[spoiler: Of [[spoiler:Of course, that wasn't actually Big Boss. However, in an almost hilarious turn, the "Big Boss" of the first game, Venom Snake, the BodyDouble, ''did'' have a bionic arm.]]



** Part of Big Boss's plan is to take in war orphans to raise the next generation of soldiers. Casts a new light to Solidus taking Raiden under his wing as a child soldier, doesn't it?

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** Part of Big Boss's plan is to take in war orphans to raise the next generation of soldiers. Casts a new light to on [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Solidus taking Raiden under his wing as a child soldier, soldier]], doesn't it?



** A bit of a stretch, but in ''Metal Gear 2'', there were tanks in the hangar (and originally planned to be fought against) that were referred to as Goliaths. The next medium to use the name Goliath in regards to a Main Battle Tank is the TV Drama/TV adaptation ''Series/{{Kings}}''.
** Big Boss's comment about soldiers being dead weight out of the battlefield becomes somewhat hilarious after watching the WebVideo/Mega64 trailer of ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'', where Raiden bombed at absolutely every single job his unemployment adviser offered him up until getting a job as a cybernetic private military contractor. It also goes int a bit of HarsherInHindsight, as the unemployment manager when first meeting Raiden mentions attributes to Raiden's four year unemployment to being the result of an implied terrible economy (at the time the trailer was released, the American economy, not to mention most of the world wide economy, especially the European economy, was undergoing a severe economic crisis).

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** A bit of a stretch, but in ''Metal Gear 2'', there were tanks in the hangar (and originally planned to be fought against) that were referred to as Goliaths. The next medium to use the name Goliath in regards to a Main Battle Tank is was the TV Drama/TV adaptation ''Series/{{Kings}}''.
** Big Boss's comment about soldiers being dead weight out of the battlefield becomes became somewhat hilarious after watching the WebVideo/Mega64 trailer of ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'', where Raiden bombed bombs at absolutely every single job his unemployment adviser offered him up until getting a job as a cybernetic private military contractor. It also goes int a bit of into HarsherInHindsight, as the unemployment manager manager, when first meeting Raiden mentions Raiden, attributes to Raiden's four year four-year unemployment to being the result of an implied terrible economy (at -- at the time the trailer was released, the American economy, not to mention most of the world wide worldwide economy, especially the European economy, was undergoing a severe economic crisis).crisis.



** Snake having to deal with the highly poisonous Zanzibar hamsters. These hamsters, though never again showing up in the series, are frequently used (complete with NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer) to illustrate the absurd nature of TheVerse.

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** Snake having to deal with the highly poisonous Zanzibar hamsters. These hamsters, though never again showing up in the series, are frequently used (complete with a NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer) to illustrate the absurd nature of TheVerse.



* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: The main reason this game was made. One of the developers of ''VideoGame/SnakesRevenge'' told Creator/HideoKojima he should make a true sequel of ''Metal Gear''. And thus, this game was created.



* OlderThanTheyThink: A ''lot'' of ''Metal Gear Solid'' came from this game, including the bit of using the game's packaging to learn a frequency number.
* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: The [[https://youtu.be/BpIjT-LhNwg?t=588 intro music]] appears to have been, ahem, "inspired" by [[Music/TangerineDream Tangerine Dream's]] [[https://youtu.be/FqEujUKoi9Q?t=526 "Diamond Diary"]] from the movie ''Film/{{Thief}}''.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: A ''lot'' of elements found in ''Metal Gear Solid'' came from this game, including the bit of using the game's packaging to learn a frequency number.
* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: The main reason this game was made. One of the developers of ''VideoGame/SnakesRevenge'' told Creator/HideoKojima he should make a true sequel of ''Metal Gear''. And thus, this game was created.
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SuspiciouslySimilarSong: The [[https://youtu.be/BpIjT-LhNwg?t=588 [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpIjT-LhNwg#t=9m48s intro music]] ("Theme of Solid Snake") appears to have been, ahem, "inspired" by [[Music/TangerineDream Tangerine Dream's]] [[https://youtu.be/FqEujUKoi9Q?t=526 Music/TangerineDream's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqEujUKoi9Q#t=8m46s "Diamond Diary"]] from the movie ''Film/{{Thief}}''.



* UnfortunateCharacterDesign: The Metal Gear D has a [[GatlingGood rotary cannon]] mounted right between its legs, resulting in many dick jokes.

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* UnfortunateCharacterDesign: The Metal Gear D has a [[GatlingGood a rotary cannon]] mounted right between its legs, resulting in many dick jokes.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** Gray Fox for some. While his death scene is tragic, his killing of Gustava ''was'' a KickTheDog moment.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
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UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Gray Fox for some. While his death scene is tragic, his killing of Gustava ''was'' a KickTheDog moment.
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** Gustava herself can come across as this, as some may find it hard to sympathize with a member of a ruthless StateSec like the [=StB=].
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpIjT-LhNwg&t=471s intro music]] appears to have been, ahem, "inspired" by [[Music/TangerineDream Tangerine Dream's]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqEujUKoi9Q "Diamond Diary"]] from the movie ''Film/{{Thief}}''.

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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpIjT-LhNwg&t=471s [[https://youtu.be/BpIjT-LhNwg?t=588 intro music]] appears to have been, ahem, "inspired" by [[Music/TangerineDream Tangerine Dream's]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqEujUKoi9Q [[https://youtu.be/FqEujUKoi9Q?t=526 "Diamond Diary"]] from the movie ''Film/{{Thief}}''.

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