History YMMV / MetalGear2SolidSnake

17th Jun '16 4:36:19 PM PF
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* AwesomeMusic: [[AwesomeMusic/MetalGear See here.]]
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: While Snake is hiding in the sauna, waiting for the brooch to change shape, a naked guard enters the sauna, hangs out a little bit, and then leaves. Granted, the guard is probably there to ensure the player keeps Snake in the sauna the right amount of time, but it's still a pretty random moment.
* EvenBetterSequel: Or SurprisinglyImprovedSequel for those who weren't impressed by ''Metal Gear''. This game features a more complex plot, better graphics, the introduction of the radar, the ability to crawl, enhanced guard AI, and tons of little details. The improvement is so vast that first time players have been stunned by ''the opening credits sequence''.
* GrowingTheBeard: This is where the Metal Gear franchise starts to resemble the Metal Gear franchise.
* HarsherInHindsight: Calling Miller during the fight with Big Boss will have him state that Big Boss was a monster. Granted, it's in the context of Big Boss's SuperStrength, but this line becomes significantly harsher after ''Peace Walker'', where he was a former ally of Big Boss and one of the founders of Outer Heaven.
** Likewise, calling Kasler during the fight has him mentioning a false rumor that Big Boss has cybernetic limbs to replace the ones he lost during the fight in the previous game. ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' revealed that he ''did'' lose an arm and had it replaced with a mechanical one, long before the events of the first game. [[spoiler: Of course, that wasn't actually Big Boss. But in an almost hilarious turn, the "Big Boss" of the first game, Venom, the BodyDouble, ''did'' have a bionic arm.]]
* HilariousInHindsight: A bit of a stretch, but in Metal Gear 2, there were tanks in the hangar ([[WhatCouldHaveBeen and originally planned to be fought against]]) that were referred to as Goliaths. The next medium to use the name Goliath in regards to a Main Battle Tank is the TV Drama/TV adaptation ''Series/{{Kings}}''.
** Big Boss's comment about soldiers being dead weight out of the battlefield becomes somewhat hilarious after watching the Mega64 trailer on ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'', where Raiden bombed at absolutely every single job his unemployment adviser offered him up until getting a job as a cybernetic private military contractor. It also goes int a bit of HarsherInHindsight, as the unemployment manager when first meeting Raiden mentions attributes to Raiden's 4 year unemployment to being the result of an implied terrible economy (at the time the trailer was released, the American economy, not to mention most of the world wide economy, especially the European economy, was undergoing a severe economic crisis).
* MemeticMutation: The phrase "It's not over yet!", used in every Metal Gear Solid game released after this, excluding the Acid games and Ghost Babel.

to:

* AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[AwesomeMusic/MetalGear See here.]]
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: While Solid Snake is hiding in the sauna, waiting for the brooch to change shape, a naked guard enters the sauna, hangs out a little bit, and then leaves. Granted, the guard is probably there to ensure the player keeps Snake in the sauna the right amount of time, but it's still a pretty random moment.
* EvenBetterSequel: Or SurprisinglyImprovedSequel for those who weren't impressed by ''Metal Gear''.''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear|1}}''. This game features a more complex plot, better graphics, the introduction of the radar, the ability to crawl, enhanced guard AI, and tons of little details. The improvement is so vast that first time players have been stunned by ''the opening credits sequence''.
* GrowingTheBeard: This is where the Metal Gear ''Franchise/MetalGear'' franchise starts to resemble the Metal Gear ''Metal Gear'' franchise.
* HarsherInHindsight: Calling Master Miller during the fight with Big Boss will have him state that Big Boss was a monster. Granted, it's in the context of Big Boss's SuperStrength, but this line becomes significantly harsher after ''Peace Walker'', ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'', where he was a former ally of Big Boss and one of the founders of Outer Heaven.
**
Heaven. Likewise, calling George Kasler during the fight has him mentioning a false rumor that Big Boss has cybernetic limbs to replace the ones he lost during the fight in the previous game. ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' revealed that he ''did'' lose an arm and had it replaced with a mechanical one, long before the events of the first game. [[spoiler: Of course, that wasn't actually Big Boss. But However, in an almost hilarious turn, the "Big Boss" of the first game, Venom, Venom Snake, the BodyDouble, ''did'' have a bionic arm.]]
* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
**
A bit of a stretch, but in Metal ''Metal Gear 2, 2'', there were tanks in the hangar ([[WhatCouldHaveBeen and originally planned to be fought against]]) that were referred to as Goliaths. The next medium to use the name Goliath in regards to a Main Battle Tank is the TV Drama/TV adaptation ''Series/{{Kings}}''.
** Big Boss's comment about soldiers being dead weight out of the battlefield becomes somewhat hilarious after watching the Mega64 Series/Mega64 trailer on of ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'', where Raiden bombed at absolutely every single job his unemployment adviser offered him up until getting a job as a cybernetic private military contractor. It also goes int a bit of HarsherInHindsight, as the unemployment manager when first meeting Raiden mentions attributes to Raiden's 4 four year unemployment to being the result of an implied terrible economy (at the time the trailer was released, the American economy, not to mention most of the world wide economy, especially the European economy, was undergoing a severe economic crisis).
* MemeticMutation: The phrase "It's not over yet!", used in every Metal Gear Solid ''Metal Gear'' game released after this, excluding the Acid ''VideoGame/MetalGearAcid'' games and Ghost Babel.''VideoGame/MetalGearGhostBabel''.



* OlderThanTheyThink: A ''lot'' of VideoGame/MetalGearSolid came from this game, including the bit of using the game's packaging to learn a frequency number.
* TearJerker: Even for an 8-bit game, it has them. The examples would be the deaths of [[StarCrossedLovers Gustava Heffner and Gray Fox]].
** Gustava's backstory reveals that she fell in love with a man named Frank Hunter, whom she intended to elope with and cross the border with him. Unfortunately, she was denied permission, and was outcasted as a result. Her death by Metal Gear D hits Snake hard when he reveals that he didn't want to see a woman die in front of him in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid''.

to:

* OlderThanTheyThink: A ''lot'' of VideoGame/MetalGearSolid ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' came from this game, including the bit of using the game's packaging to learn a frequency number.
* TearJerker: Even for an 8-bit game, it has them. The examples would be the deaths of [[StarCrossedLovers Gustava Heffner and Gray Fox]].
Fox]]:
** Gustava's backstory reveals that she fell in love with a Western man named Frank Hunter, whom she intended to elope with and cross the border with him. with. Unfortunately, she was denied permission, U.S. citizenship, and was outcasted as a result. Her death by Metal Gear D hits Snake hard when he reveals that he didn't want to see a woman die in front of him in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid''.''Metal Gear Solid''.
29th May '16 2:44:17 PM contrafanxxx
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Gray Fox to some. While his death scene is tragic, his killing of Gustava was a KickTheDog moment.
2nd Nov '15 11:34:37 AM xxbiasonxxx
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* MostWonderfulSound: That sound that plays whenever you inflict damage on a boss.
23rd Sep '15 12:23:55 PM PolarPhantom
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Likewise, calling Kasler during the fight has him mentioning a false rumor that Big Boss has cybernetic limbs to replace the ones he lost during the fight in the previous game. ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' revealed that he ''did'' lose an arm and had it replaced with a mechanical one, long before the events of the first game.

to:

** Likewise, calling Kasler during the fight has him mentioning a false rumor that Big Boss has cybernetic limbs to replace the ones he lost during the fight in the previous game. ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' revealed that he ''did'' lose an arm and had it replaced with a mechanical one, long before the events of the first game. [[spoiler: Of course, that wasn't actually Big Boss. But in an almost hilarious turn, the "Big Boss" of the first game, Venom, the BodyDouble, ''did'' have a bionic arm.]]
13th Sep '15 3:59:04 PM Kytseo
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* GrowingTheBeard: This is where the Metal Gear franchise starts to resemble the Metal Gear franchise.
24th Jun '15 4:42:59 PM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* HilariousInHindsight: A bit of a stretch, but in Metal Gear 2, there were tanks in the hangar ([[WhatCouldHaveBeen and originally planned to be fought against]]) that were referred to as Goliaths. The next medium to use the name Goliath in regards to a Main Battle Tank is the TV Drama/TV adaptation "{{Kings}}".

to:

* HilariousInHindsight: A bit of a stretch, but in Metal Gear 2, there were tanks in the hangar ([[WhatCouldHaveBeen and originally planned to be fought against]]) that were referred to as Goliaths. The next medium to use the name Goliath in regards to a Main Battle Tank is the TV Drama/TV adaptation "{{Kings}}".''Series/{{Kings}}''.
27th Mar '15 3:46:02 PM Brandon
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: While Snake is hiding in the sauna, waiting for the brooch to change shape, a naked guard enters the sauna, hangs out a little bit, and then leaves. Granted, the guard is probably there to ensure the player keeps Snake in the sauna the right amount of time, but it's still a pretty random moment.
28th Aug '14 4:18:50 PM Kervinle2500
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* TearJerker: Even for an 8-bit game, it has them. The examples would be the deaths of [[StarCrossedLovers Gustava Heffner and Gray Fox]]. Gustava's backstory reveals that she fell in love with a man named Frank Hunter, whom she intended to elope with and cross the border with him. Unfortunately, she was denied permission, and was outcasted as a result. Her death by Metal Gear D hits Snake hard when he reveals that he didn't want to see a woman die in front of him in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid''. For Gray Fox, he's a ShellShockedVeteran who cannot stay away from war as he thought he cannot function outside the battlefield. As the pilot of Metal Gear D, he ended up killing the woman he loved. He thought making a woman happy is something he cannot do. The theme that plays in the conversation between him and Snake is appropriately called "Tears".

to:

* TearJerker: Even for an 8-bit game, it has them. The examples would be the deaths of [[StarCrossedLovers Gustava Heffner and Gray Fox]].
**
Gustava's backstory reveals that she fell in love with a man named Frank Hunter, whom she intended to elope with and cross the border with him. Unfortunately, she was denied permission, and was outcasted as a result. Her death by Metal Gear D hits Snake hard when he reveals that he didn't want to see a woman die in front of him in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid''.
**
For Gray Fox, he's a ShellShockedVeteran who cannot stay away from war as he thought he cannot function outside the battlefield. As the pilot of Metal Gear D, he ended up killing the woman he loved. He thought making a woman happy is something he cannot do. The theme that plays in the conversation between him and Snake is appropriately called "Tears".
28th Aug '14 3:28:12 PM Kervinle2500
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* TearJerker: Even for an 8-bit game, it has them. The examples would be the deaths of [[StarCrossedLovers Gustava Heffner and Gray Fox]]. Gustava's backstory reveals that she fell in love with a man named Frank Hunter, whom she intended to elope with and cross the border with him. Unfortunately, she was denied permission, and was outcasted as a result. Her death by Metal Gear D hits Snake hard when he reveals that he didn't want to see a woman die in front of him in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid''. For Gray Fox, he's a ShellShockedVeteran who cannot stay away from war as he thought he cannot function outside the battlefield. As the pilot of Metal Gear D, he ended up killing the woman he loved. He thought making a woman happy is something he cannot do. The theme that plays in the conversation between him and Snake is appropriately called "Tears".
24th Jun '14 7:24:04 PM AlleyOop
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* HarsherInHindsight: Calling Miller during the fight with Big Boss will have him state that Big Boss was a monster. This line becomes significantly harsher after ''Peace Walker'', where he was a former ally of Big Boss and one of the founders of Outer Heaven.

to:

* HarsherInHindsight: Calling Miller during the fight with Big Boss will have him state that Big Boss was a monster. This Granted, it's in the context of Big Boss's SuperStrength, but this line becomes significantly harsher after ''Peace Walker'', where he was a former ally of Big Boss and one of the founders of Outer Heaven.
This list shows the last 10 events of 22. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.MetalGear2SolidSnake