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* OlderThanTheyThink: ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' wasn't the first to have one of Peter's foes try to pull a SuperiorSuccessor on Peter, as this was published first. There's even a HilariousInHindsight line where Kraven brags about being superior to Spider-Man.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan2013'' wasn't the first to have one of Peter's foes try to pull a SuperiorSuccessor on Peter, as this was published first. There's even a HilariousInHindsight line where Kraven brags about being superior to Spider-Man.

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* OnceOriginalNowCommon: As Creator/TomDefalco said, KLH is the first adult story told in Spider-Man's pages, being not only darker by Spider-Man standards but also quite dark in general. It was also the first event title in Spider-Man continuity, being a serial story that ran across multiple titles. The reason for doing so, as editor Jim Salicrup pointed out, was creative rather than commercial. The twist of Kraven shooting and killing Spider-Man would have been spoiled if Peter were to show up in a satellite title that, as was common, didn't allude to happenings in the main book. Later event titles, both in Spider-Man and elsewhere, weren't written with such considerations in mind.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: As Creator/TomDefalco said, KLH is the first adult story told in Spider-Man's pages, being not only darker by Spider-Man standards but also quite dark in general. It was also the first event title in Spider-Man continuity, being a serial story that ran across multiple titles. The reason for doing so, as editor Jim Salicrup pointed out was creative rather than commercial. The twist of Kraven shooting and killing Spider-Man would have been spoiled if Peter were to show up in a satellite title that, as was common, didn't allude to happenings in the main book. Later event titles, both in Spider-Man and elsewhere, weren't written with such considerations in mind.
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* SacredCow: One of the most beloved stories in Spider-Man's decades-long publication history.
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* MemeticMutation: #ripbozo 👎😹👎[[labelnote:Explanation]][[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2spyL9aPH8 The panel of Kraven dressed up as Spider-Man standing over Peter's grave]] has become a popular image to express enjoyment over [[{{Schadenfreude}} other people's misery]].[[/labelnote]]

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* MemeticMutation: #ripbozo 👎😹👎[[labelnote:Explanation]][[https://www.[[labelnote:Explanation]][[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2spyL9aPH8 The panel of Kraven dressed up as Spider-Man standing over Peter's grave]] has become a popular image to express enjoyment over [[{{Schadenfreude}} other people's misery]].[[/labelnote]]

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* SignatureScene:
** The scene with Kraven's visions fighting a huge Spider monster made of spiders.
** Peter crawling out of his grave pushing out the coffin, the mud, and then sitting before the gravestone "Here lies Spider-Man" which is also the cover of Issue #4 is one of the most famous images in Spider-Man lore.
** The scene where Spider-Man tells MJ that he's going back to stop Kraven and Vermin and he holds her hand and brings it to his face by the window.
** Kraven's suicide.

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* SignatureScene:
** The scene with Kraven's visions fighting a huge Spider monster made of spiders.
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SignatureScene: Peter crawling out of his grave pushing out the coffin, the mud, and then sitting before the gravestone "Here lies Spider-Man" Spider-Man", which is also the cover of Issue #4 #4, is one of the most famous images in Spider-Man lore.
** The scene where Spider-Man tells MJ that he's going back to stop Kraven and Vermin and he holds her hand and brings it to his face by the window.
** Kraven's suicide.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: As EIC Creator/TomDefalco said, KLH is the first adult story told in Spider-Man's pages, being not only darker by Spider-Man standards but also quite dark in general. It was also the first event title in Spider-Man continuity, being a serial story that ran across multiple titles. The reason for doing so, as editor Jim Salicrup pointed out was creative rather than commercial. The twist of Kraven shooting and killing Spider-Man would have been spoiled if Peter were to show up in a satellite title that, as was common, didn't allude to happenings in the main book. Later event titles, both in Spider-Man and elsewhere, weren't written with such considerations in mind.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: As EIC Creator/TomDefalco said, KLH is the first adult story told in Spider-Man's pages, being not only darker by Spider-Man standards but also quite dark in general. It was also the first event title in Spider-Man continuity, being a serial story that ran across multiple titles. The reason for doing so, as editor Jim Salicrup pointed out was creative rather than commercial. The twist of Kraven shooting and killing Spider-Man would have been spoiled if Peter were to show up in a satellite title that, as was common, didn't allude to happenings in the main book. Later event titles, both in Spider-Man and elsewhere, weren't written with such considerations in mind.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' wasn't the first to have one of Peter's foes try to pull a SuperiorSuccessor on Peter, as this was published first.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' wasn't the first to have one of Peter's foes try to pull a SuperiorSuccessor on Peter, as this was published first. There's even a HilariousInHindsight line where Kraven brags about being superior to Spider-Man.
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* MemeticMutation: #ripbozo 👎😹👎[[labelnote:Explanation]][[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2spyL9aPH8 The panel of Kraven dressed up as Spider-Man standing over Peter's grave]] has become a popular image to express enjoyment over [[{{Schadenfreude}} other people's misery]].[[/labelnote]]
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Before this story, Kraven the Hunter was seen as a joke villain. Having a ridiculous costume and gimmick. This story instantly elevated him up the rungs of Spider-Man's rogues, and it's widely considered his best story which makes him one of the best Spider-Man villains.

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Before this story, Kraven the Hunter was seen as a joke villain. Having a villain owing to his ridiculous costume and gimmick. shallow motivation. This story instantly elevated his standing in the fanbase, adding some much needed psychological complexity to the character that helped to better define him up the rungs of Spider-Man's rogues, and it's widely considered his best story which makes him one of the best Spider-Man villains.as a {{Foil}} for Peter Parker.
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** Peter crawling out of his grave pushing out the coffin, the mud, and then sitting before the gravestone "Here lies Spider-Man" which is also the cover of Issue #4 is one of the most images in Spider-Man lore.

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** Peter crawling out of his grave pushing out the coffin, the mud, and then sitting before the gravestone "Here lies Spider-Man" which is also the cover of Issue #4 is one of the most famous images in Spider-Man lore.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: As EIC Creator/TomDefalco said, KLH is the first adult story told in Spider-Man's pages, being not only darker by Spider-Man standards but also quite dark in general. It was also the first event title in Spider-Man continuity, being a serial story that ran across multiple titles. The reason for doing so, as editor Jim Salicrup pointed out was creative rather than commercial. The twist of Kraven shooting and killing Spider-Man would have been spoiled if Peter were to show up in a satellite title that, as was common, didn't allude to happenings in the main book. Later even titles, both in Spider-Man and elsewhere weren't written with such considerations in mind.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: As EIC Creator/TomDefalco said, KLH is the first adult story told in Spider-Man's pages, being not only darker by Spider-Man standards but also quite dark in general. It was also the first event title in Spider-Man continuity, being a serial story that ran across multiple titles. The reason for doing so, as editor Jim Salicrup pointed out was creative rather than commercial. The twist of Kraven shooting and killing Spider-Man would have been spoiled if Peter were to show up in a satellite title that, as was common, didn't allude to happenings in the main book. Later even event titles, both in Spider-Man and elsewhere elsewhere, weren't written with such considerations in mind.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: As EIC Creator/TomDefalco said, KLH is the first adult story told in Spider-Man's pages, being not only darker by Spider-Man standards but also quite dark in general. It was also the first event title in Spider-Man continuity, being a serial story that ran across multiple titles. The reason for doing so, as editor Jim Salicrup pointed out was creative rather than commercial. The twist of Kraven shooting and killing Spider-Man would have been spoiled if Peter were to show up in a satellite title that, as was common, didn't allude to happenings in the main book. Later even titles, both in Spider-Man and elsewhere weren't written with such considerations in mind.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Before this story, Kraven the Hunter was seen as a joke villain. Having a ridiculous costume and gimmick. This story instantly elevated him up the rungs of Spider-Man's rogues, and it's widely considered his best story which makes him one of the best Spider-Man villains.
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* SignatureScene:
** The scene with Kraven's visions fighting a huge Spider monster made of spiders.
** Peter crawling out of his grave pushing out the coffin, the mud, and then sitting before the gravestone "Here lies Spider-Man" which is also the cover of Issue #4 is one of the most images in Spider-Man lore.
** The scene where Spider-Man tells MJ that he's going back to stop Kraven and Vermin and he holds her hand and brings it to his face by the window.
** Kraven's suicide.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Kraven's repetition of "I am the Spider" is reminiscent of a much-derided dark period Peter Parker went through shortly before and right at the start of ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga'', when he kept saying things like "Peter Parker is dead. I am the Spider." It was much-derided for a reason.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Kraven's repetition of "I am the Spider" is reminiscent of a much-derided dark period Peter Parker went through shortly before and right at the start of ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga'', when he kept saying things like "Peter Parker is dead. I am the Spider." It was much-derided for a reason."
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* HilariousInHindsight: Kraven's repetition of "I am the Spider" is reminiscent of a much-derided dark period Peter Parker went through shortly before and right at the start of ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga'', when he kept saying things like "Peter Parker is dead. I am the Spider." It was much-derided for a reason.
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There is no indication of rape or attempted rape within the comic. Geek blogs and the like tend to bring up the facy that it doesn't feature that kind of thing.


* BaseBreakingCharacter: Kraven himself. Some readers (and writers) find him very sympathetic on the basis of his suicide. Some have a hard time taking him seriously. Some consider him an unrepentant monster and possible rapist whose death was chilling but necessary.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Kraven himself. Some readers (and writers) find him very sympathetic on the basis of his suicide. Some have a hard time taking him seriously. Some consider him an unrepentant monster and possible rapist whose death was chilling but necessary.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' wasn't this first to have one of Peter's foes try to pull a SuperiorSuccessor on Peter, as this was published first.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' wasn't this the first to have one of Peter's foes try to pull a SuperiorSuccessor on Peter, as this was published first.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Kraven himself. Some readers (and writers) find him very sympathetic on the basis of his suicide. Some have a hard time taking him seriously. Some consider him an unrepentant complete monster and possible rapist whose death was chilling but necessary.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Kraven himself. Some readers (and writers) find him very sympathetic on the basis of his suicide. Some have a hard time taking him seriously. Some consider him an unrepentant complete monster and possible rapist whose death was chilling but necessary.
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* NightmareFuel: Some consider Peter's two weeks spent buried alive to be this.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: ''ComicBook/SuperoirSpiderMan'' wasn't this first to have one of Peter's foes try to pull a SuperiorSuccessor on Peter, as this was published first.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: ''ComicBook/SuperoirSpiderMan'' ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' wasn't this first to have one of Peter's foes try to pull a SuperiorSuccessor on Peter, as this was published first.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: ''ComicBook/SuperoirSpiderMan'' wasn't this first to have one of Peter's foes try to pull a SuperiorSuccessor on Peter, as this was published first.

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* BaseBreaker: Kraven himself. Some readers (and writers) find him very sympathetic on the basis of his suicide. Some have a hard time taking him seriously. Some consider him an unrepentant complete monster and possible rapist whose death was chilling but necessary.
* NightmareFuel: Some consider Peter's two weeks spent buried alive to be this.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Kraven himself. Some readers (and writers) find him very sympathetic on the basis of his suicide. Some have a hard time taking him seriously. Some consider him an unrepentant complete monster and possible rapist whose death was chilling but necessary.
* NightmareFuel: Some consider Peter's two weeks spent buried alive to be this.this.
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* BaseBreaker: Kraven himself. Some readers (and writers) find him very sympathetic on the basis of his suicide. Some have a hard time taking him seriously. Some consider him an unrepentant complete monster and possible rapist whose death was chilling but necessary.
* NightmareFuel: Some consider Peter's two weeks spent buried alive to be this.

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