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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Some people who didn't want to watch the movie said they couldn't buy into the premise of a [[NobleConfederateSoldier former Confederate soldier]] who goes to Mars and dresses like [[Literature/ConanTheBarbarian Conan]]. Furthermore, the source material has been copied so much that the official adaptation succumbed to [[OnceOriginalNowCommon looking cliche]], despite being TropeMaker and [[TropeCodifier Codifier]] for vast majority of those. These factors contributed to the movie's BoxOfficeBomb status, and ensured that [[StillbornFranchise the planned trilogy never materialized]].
* ClicheStorm: A common criticism, despite the book being the originator for many sci-fi tropes. In fact, it being [[TropeMakers the source to so many tropes, cliches and conventions]] is the very reason why it failed to get any reaction from modern audiences, as ''three generations'' have passed since ''Barsoom'' was fresh and unique. And [[OnceOriginalNowCommon countless imitations]] along the way happened - some of them becoming genre classics on their own.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Some people who didn't want to watch the movie said they couldn't buy into the premise of a [[NobleConfederateSoldier former Confederate soldier]] who goes to Mars and dresses like [[Literature/ConanTheBarbarian Conan]]. Furthermore, the source material has been copied so much that the official adaptation succumbed to [[OnceOriginalNowCommon looking cliche]], despite being the TropeMaker and [[TropeCodifier Codifier]] for the vast majority of those. These factors contributed to the movie's BoxOfficeBomb status, and ensured that [[StillbornFranchise the planned trilogy never materialized]].
* ClicheStorm: A common criticism, despite the book being the originator for many sci-fi tropes. In fact, it being [[TropeMakers the source to so many tropes, cliches and conventions]] is the very reason why it failed to get any reaction from modern audiences, as ''three generations'' have had passed since ''Barsoom'' was fresh and unique. And unique, and [[OnceOriginalNowCommon countless imitations]] along the way happened - -- some of them becoming genre classics on their own.
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* ClicheStorm: A common criticism, despite the book being the originator for many sci-fi tropes. In fact, it being [[Trope Maker the source to so many tropes, cliches and conventions]] is the very reason why it failed to get any reaction from modern audiences, as ''three generations'' have passed since ''Barsoom'' was fresh and unique. And [[OnceOriginalNowCommon countless imitations]] along the way happened - some of them becoming genre classics on their own.

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* ClicheStorm: A common criticism, despite the book being the originator for many sci-fi tropes. In fact, it being [[Trope Maker [[TropeMakers the source to so many tropes, cliches and conventions]] is the very reason why it failed to get any reaction from modern audiences, as ''three generations'' have passed since ''Barsoom'' was fresh and unique. And [[OnceOriginalNowCommon countless imitations]] along the way happened - some of them becoming genre classics on their own.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Some people who didn't want to watch the movie said they couldn't buy into the premise of a [[NobleConfederateSoldier former Confederate soldier]] who goes to Mars and dresses like [[Literature/ConanTheBarbarian Conan]]. Furthermore, the source material has been copied so much that the official adaptation succumbed to SeinfeldIsUnfunny. These factors contributed to the movie's BoxOfficeBomb status, and ensured that [[StillbornFranchise the planned trilogy never materialized]].
%% * ClicheStorm: A common criticism, despite the book being the originator for many sci-fi tropes. See also {{Troperrific}} on the film page.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Some people who didn't want to watch the movie said they couldn't buy into the premise of a [[NobleConfederateSoldier former Confederate soldier]] who goes to Mars and dresses like [[Literature/ConanTheBarbarian Conan]]. Furthermore, the source material has been copied so much that the official adaptation succumbed to SeinfeldIsUnfunny.[[OnceOriginalNowCommon looking cliche]], despite being TropeMaker and [[TropeCodifier Codifier]] for vast majority of those. These factors contributed to the movie's BoxOfficeBomb status, and ensured that [[StillbornFranchise the planned trilogy never materialized]].
%% * ClicheStorm: A common criticism, despite the book being the originator for many sci-fi tropes. See also {{Troperrific}} on In fact, it being [[Trope Maker the film page.source to so many tropes, cliches and conventions]] is the very reason why it failed to get any reaction from modern audiences, as ''three generations'' have passed since ''Barsoom'' was fresh and unique. And [[OnceOriginalNowCommon countless imitations]] along the way happened - some of them becoming genre classics on their own.



* OnceOriginalNowOverdone: Source of many claims the film is a ripoff of more recent fiction such as ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' and ''Film/TheLastSamurai''. The book series it's based on was first published in ''1912'' and in fact inspired many of the works ''John Carter'' was accused of ripping off; the trouble is that by the time the film adaptation came out in 2012 (a century later), almost everything about it had already been done in hundreds of other works ingrained in pop culture.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Source of many claims the film is a ripoff of more recent fiction such as ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' and ''Film/TheLastSamurai''. The book series it's based on was first published in ''1912'' and in fact inspired many of the works ''John Carter'' was accused of ripping off; the trouble is that by the time the film adaptation came out in 2012 (a century later), almost everything about it had already been done in dozens of other works ingrained in pop culture.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Some people who didn't want to watch the movie said they couldn't buy into the premise of a [[NobleConfederateSoldier former Confederate soldier]] who goes to Mars and dresses like Conan. Furthermore, the source material has been copied so much that the official adaptation succumbed to SeinfeldIsUnfunny. These factors contributed to the movie's BoxOfficeBomb status, and ensured that [[StillbornFranchise the planned trilogy never materialized]].

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Some people who didn't want to watch the movie said they couldn't buy into the premise of a [[NobleConfederateSoldier former Confederate soldier]] who goes to Mars and dresses like Conan.[[Literature/ConanTheBarbarian Conan]]. Furthermore, the source material has been copied so much that the official adaptation succumbed to SeinfeldIsUnfunny. These factors contributed to the movie's BoxOfficeBomb status, and ensured that [[StillbornFranchise the planned trilogy never materialized]].
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Some people who didn't want to watch the movie said they couldn't buy into the premise of a former Confederate soldier who goes to Mars and dresses like Conan. Furthermore, the source material has been copied so much that the official adaptation succumbed to SeinfeldIsUnfunny. These factors contributed to the movie's BoxOfficeBomb status, and ensured that [[StillbornFranchise the planned trilogy never materialized]].

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Some people who didn't want to watch the movie said they couldn't buy into the premise of a [[NobleConfederateSoldier former Confederate soldier soldier]] who goes to Mars and dresses like Conan. Furthermore, the source material has been copied so much that the official adaptation succumbed to SeinfeldIsUnfunny. These factors contributed to the movie's BoxOfficeBomb status, and ensured that [[StillbornFranchise the planned trilogy never materialized]].
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** [[AdaptationalVillainy Sab Than]] is the [[EvilOverlord ruler of Zodanga]], a mobile city that drains energy wherever it goes, killing countless innocent residents of Mars/Barsoom. Upon being granted a new weapon by the mysterious Therns, Sab Than personally slaughters entire border cities and vows to spare the land of Helium should they give him princess Dejah Thoris in marriage. When forcing a marriage to Dejah Thoris, it is revealed [[ILied Sab Than is lying]] and intends to wipe out Helium and all who live there regardless.
** [[TheManBehindTheMan Matai Shang]], leader of the spacefaring Therns, has traveled from planet to planet for billions of years, [[TheChessmaster orchestrating wars and the annihilation of entire civilizations]] by uplifting "mindless brutes" he can [[ManipulativeBastard manipulate]]. This is how he introduces himself to the warlord Sab Than. Shang uplifts and molds Sab Than into a city-destroying nightmare capable of annihilating the entire planet of Barsoom, which Shang intends to do by allowing Sab Than to first wed and then murder the princess of Helium; [[YouHaveFailedMe when Sab Than fails, Shang implodes his head]] and moves on. When John Carter demands a motive, Matai Shang admits [[ForTheEvulz there is no greater cause except for the joy of feeding on dying planets and the luxury of throwing their immortal weight around]].
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Some people who didn't want to watch the movie said they couldn't buy into the premise of a former Confederate soldier who goes to Mars and dresses like Conan. Furthermore, the source material has been copied so much that the official adaptation succumbed to SeinfeldIsUnfunny. These factors contributed to the movie's BoxOfficeBomb status, and ensured that the planned trilogy never materialized.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Some people who didn't want to watch the movie said they couldn't buy into the premise of a former Confederate soldier who goes to Mars and dresses like Conan. Furthermore, the source material has been copied so much that the official adaptation succumbed to SeinfeldIsUnfunny. These factors contributed to the movie's BoxOfficeBomb status, and ensured that [[StillbornFranchise the planned trilogy never materialized.materialized]].
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%% * SoOkayItsAverage: The common appraisal of it is that it's by no means a terrible film, but also that it's very evident why it didn't make its money back.

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%% * SoOkayItsAverage: The common appraisal of it is that it's by no means a terrible film, but also that it's very evident why it didn't its slow pacing and [[ClicheStorm conventional plot and characters]] don't make its money back. it a particular memorable sci-fi experience.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: The source material of this film inspired hits such as ''Franchise/StarWars'' and ''Film/{{Avatar}}''. Or inspired the works which inspired them. Yes, the "John Carter"-novels have been around for that long. In fact, {{Superman}} was basically a CaptainErsatz of John Carter himself, when he first debuted (just coming from an alien planet to Earth instead of the other way around).

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* OlderThanTheyThink: The source material of this film inspired hits such as ''Franchise/StarWars'' and ''Film/{{Avatar}}''. Or inspired the works which inspired them. Yes, the "John Carter"-novels have been around for that long. In fact, {{Superman}} Franchise/{{Superman}} was basically a CaptainErsatz of John Carter himself, when he first debuted (just coming from an alien planet to Earth instead of the other way around).



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Source of many claims the film is a ripoff of more recent fiction such as ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' and ''Film/TheLastSamurai''. The book series its based on was first published in ''1912'' and in fact inspired many of the works ''John Carter'' was accused of ripping off; the trouble is that by the time the film adaptation came out in 2012 (a century later), almost everything about it had already been done in dozens of other works ingrained in pop culture.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Source of many claims the film is a ripoff of more recent fiction such as ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' and ''Film/TheLastSamurai''. The book series its it's based on was first published in ''1912'' and in fact inspired many of the works ''John Carter'' was accused of ripping off; the trouble is that by the time the film adaptation came out in 2012 (a century later), almost everything about it had already been done in dozens of other works ingrained in pop culture. culture.
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* UglyCute: While Woola looks like a bear-sized lizard with the face of a bull-dug, his dog-like mannerisms make him incredibly [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/woola_7701.PNG endearing.]] Also, the baby Tharks.

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* UglyCute: While Woola looks like a bear-sized lizard with the face of a bull-dug, bull-dog, his dog-like mannerisms make him incredibly [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/woola_7701.PNG endearing.]] Also, the baby Tharks.
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%% * UglyCute: [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/woola_7701.PNG Woola.]] Also, the baby Tharks.

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%% * UglyCute: While Woola looks like a bear-sized lizard with the face of a bull-dug, his dog-like mannerisms make him incredibly [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/woola_7701.PNG Woola.endearing.]] Also, the baby Tharks.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Some people who didn't want to watch the movie said they couldn't buy into the premise of a former Confederate soldier who goes to Mars and dresses like Conan. Furthermore, the source material has been copied so much that the official adaptation succumbed to SeinfeldIsUnfunny.
%% * SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=butMdidqqCs The end credit suite.]]

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Some people who didn't want to watch the movie said they couldn't buy into the premise of a former Confederate soldier who goes to Mars and dresses like Conan. Furthermore, the source material has been copied so much that the official adaptation succumbed to SeinfeldIsUnfunny.
%% * SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=butMdidqqCs The end credit suite.]]
SeinfeldIsUnfunny. These factors contributed to the movie's BoxOfficeBomb status, and ensured that the planned trilogy never materialized.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Another Sci-Fi film produced by Disney, ''Film/{{Tomorrowland}}'', also bombed at the box office, leading to the studios giving up on producing Sci-Fi films outside of Lucasfilm and Marvel Comics, and cancelling the highly anticipated sequel to ''Film/TronLegacy''. A lot of ''John Carter'' fans have taken pity on the ''Tron'' fans for this reason. Then ''Film/{{Solo}}'' failed as well, dooming Lucasfilm to also be ScrewedByTheNetwork in favor of the highly-controversial Film/DisneyLiveActionRemakes. Pray for Marvel, as their massive successes don't necessarily mean it'll be an eternal cash cow.
* HilariousInHindsight:
** As noted on the trivia page, Director Andrew Stanton insisted on using "Kashmir" by Music/LedZeppelin in the trailers, but Disney refused, believing that a 30 year old rock song wouldn't appeal to the younger male audience the film was intended for. 5 years later, ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' would heavily feature "The Immigrant Song", an older song by the same band, and not only was a critical success, but it also wound up making '''over 3 times''' what ''John Carter'' made, and 3 years before ''Ragnarok'', there was ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'', which was filled with various other songs that were either as old as or a few years shy of "Kashmir", and it also made roughly around 3 times what ''John Carter'' made.
** The Tharks are designed here with faces that bear a passing resemblance to the Bewilderbeast of ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon2'', especially Tal Hajus who is missing his left tusk just like Drago's Bewilderbeast after the climax.
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* {{Narm}}: One of the Martian cities is called Helium. Try not to think of HeliumSpeech every time it is mentioned.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=butMdidqqCs The end credit suite.]]
* ClicheStorm: A common criticism, despite the book being the originator for many sci-fi tropes. See also {{Troperrific}} on the film page.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[BadassAdorable Woola]] and [[LoveableRogue Kantos Kan.]]

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%% * SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=butMdidqqCs The end credit suite.]]
%% * ClicheStorm: A common criticism, despite the book being the originator for many sci-fi tropes. See also {{Troperrific}} on the film page.
%% * EnsembleDarkhorse: [[BadassAdorable Woola]] and [[LoveableRogue Kantos Kan.]]



* SoOkayItsAverage: The common appraisal of it is that it's by no means a terrible film, but also that it's very evident why it didn't make its money back.

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%% * SoOkayItsAverage: The common appraisal of it is that it's by no means a terrible film, but also that it's very evident why it didn't make its money back.



* UglyCute: [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/woola_7701.PNG Woola.]] Also, the baby Tharks.

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%% * UglyCute: [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/woola_7701.PNG Woola.]] Also, the baby Tharks.
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** The film's marketing, in a last-gasp attempt to drum up interest, played up this trope, with a TV spot that declared "Before ''Avatar''...before ''Star Wars''...there was ''John Carter''."

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"as much as it was panned"—honestly


* SoOkayItsAverage: As much as it was panned, no one can say it's the worst film ever.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: As much as The common appraisal of it was panned, no one can say is that it's the worst film ever.by no means a terrible film, but also that it's very evident why it didn't make its money back.
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* OneSceneWonder: Kantos Kan (played by James Purefoy) doesn't have much to do besides act as NumberTwo to his king, but he gets the spotlight when he helps John escape one of the several times he's taken prisoner or detained.

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* OneSceneWonder: Kantos Kan (played by James Purefoy) Creator/JamesPurefoy) doesn't have much to do besides act as NumberTwo to his king, but he gets the spotlight when he helps John escape one of the several times he's taken prisoner or detained.
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Years later, I think the prayers for marvel worked, being Disney's most successful sci fi


* HarsherInHindsight: Another Sci-Fi film produced by Disney, ''Film/{{Tomorrowland}}'', also bombed at the box office, leading to the studios giving up on producing Sci-Fi films outside of Lucasfilm and Marvel Comics, and cancelling the highly anticipated sequel to ''Film/TronLegacy''. A lot of ''John Carter'' fans have taken pity on the ''Tron'' fans for this reason. Then ''Film/{{Solo}}'' failed as well, dooming Lucasfilm to also be ScrewedByTheNetwork in favor of the highly-controversial Film/DisneyLiveActionRemakes. Pray for Marvel.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Another Sci-Fi film produced by Disney, ''Film/{{Tomorrowland}}'', also bombed at the box office, leading to the studios giving up on producing Sci-Fi films outside of Lucasfilm and Marvel Comics, and cancelling the highly anticipated sequel to ''Film/TronLegacy''. A lot of ''John Carter'' fans have taken pity on the ''Tron'' fans for this reason. Then ''Film/{{Solo}}'' failed as well, dooming Lucasfilm to also be ScrewedByTheNetwork in favor of the highly-controversial Film/DisneyLiveActionRemakes. Pray for Marvel.Marvel, as their massive successes don't necessarily mean it'll be an eternal cash cow.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Source of many claims the film is a ripoff of more recent fiction such as ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' and ''Film/TheLastSamurai''.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Source of many claims the film is a ripoff of more recent fiction such as ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' and ''Film/TheLastSamurai''. The book series its based on was first published in ''1912'' and in fact inspired many of the works ''John Carter'' was accused of ripping off; the trouble is that by the time the film adaptation came out in 2012 (a century later), almost everything about it had already been done in dozens of other works ingrained in pop culture.
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That came out first, so it doesn't count


* HilariousInHindsight: Matai Shang (played by Mark Strong) gives the traitor a weapon that acts like a GreenLanternRing. By this point, Mark played [[Film/GreenLantern Sinestro.]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: Matai Shang (played by Mark Strong) gives the traitor a weapon that acts like a GreenLanternRing. By this point, Mark played [[Film/GreenLantern Sinestro.]]
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* HarsherInHindsight: Another Sci-Fi film produced by Disney, ''Film/{{Tomorrowland}}'', also bombed at the box office, leading to the studios giving up on producing Sci-Fi films outside of Lucasfilm and Marvel Comics, and cancelling the highly anticipated sequel to ''Film/TronLegacy''. A lot of ''John Carter'' fans have taken pity on the ''Tron'' fans for this reason.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Another Sci-Fi film produced by Disney, ''Film/{{Tomorrowland}}'', also bombed at the box office, leading to the studios giving up on producing Sci-Fi films outside of Lucasfilm and Marvel Comics, and cancelling the highly anticipated sequel to ''Film/TronLegacy''. A lot of ''John Carter'' fans have taken pity on the ''Tron'' fans for this reason. Then ''Film/{{Solo}}'' failed as well, dooming Lucasfilm to also be ScrewedByTheNetwork in favor of the highly-controversial Film/DisneyLiveActionRemakes. Pray for Marvel.
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** The Tharks are designed here with faces that bear a passing resemblance to the Bewilderbeast of ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon2'', especially Tal Hajus who is missing his left tusk just like Drago's Bewilderbeast after the climax.

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** The Tharks are designed here with faces that bear a passing resemblance to the Bewilderbeast of ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon2'', ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon2'', especially Tal Hajus who is missing his left tusk just like Drago's Bewilderbeast after the climax.
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** The Tharks are designed here with faces that bear a passing resemblance to the Bewilderbeast of ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon2'', especially Tal Hajus who is missing his left tusk just like Drago's Bewilderbeast after the climax.


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** And the White Apes. Picture a giant albino King Kong with six limbs, [[EyelessFace no eyes]] and a wide tusked mouth like a hippo, and a vicious temper to boot.
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* SignatureScene: The scene where Carter fights off an entire ''army'' of Warhoons intercut with [[spoiler: his flashbacks to the death of his family]]. Even people who hated the movie frequently admit that it was an ''[[CrowningMomentOfAwesome awesome]]'' scene, not to mention being extremely [[TearJerker powerful.]]

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* SignatureScene: The scene where Carter fights off an entire ''army'' of Warhoons intercut with [[spoiler: his flashbacks to the death of his family]]. Even people who hated the movie frequently admit that it was an ''[[CrowningMomentOfAwesome ''[[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome awesome]]'' scene, not to mention being extremely [[TearJerker powerful.]]
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Some people who didn't want to watch the movie said they couldn't buy into the premise of a former Confederate soldier who goes to Mars and dresses like Conan.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Some people who didn't want to watch the movie said they couldn't buy into the premise of a former Confederate soldier who goes to Mars and dresses like Conan. Furthermore, the source material has been copied so much that the official adaptation succumbed to SeinfeldIsUnfunny.
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** As noted on the trivia page, Director Andrew Stanton insisted on using "Kashmir" by Music/LedZeppelin in the trailers, but Disney refused, believing that a 30 year old rock song wouldn't appeal to the younger male audience the film was intended for. 5 years later, ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' would heavily feature "The Immigrant Song", an older song by the same band, and not only was a critical success, but it also wound up making '''over 10 times''' what ''John Carter'' made

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** As noted on the trivia page, Director Andrew Stanton insisted on using "Kashmir" by Music/LedZeppelin in the trailers, but Disney refused, believing that a 30 year old rock song wouldn't appeal to the younger male audience the film was intended for. 5 years later, ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' would heavily feature "The Immigrant Song", an older song by the same band, and not only was a critical success, but it also wound up making '''over 10 3 times''' what ''John Carter'' mademade, and 3 years before ''Ragnarok'', there was ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'', which was filled with various other songs that were either as old as or a few years shy of "Kashmir", and it also made roughly around 3 times what ''John Carter'' made.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=butMdidqqCs The end credit suite.]]

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=butMdidqqCs The end credit suite.]]



* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: From the aliens, to the backdrops of Mars, the film packs an amazing visual flair. Appropriate due to the fact that the director is from Pixar.

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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: From the aliens, to the backdrops of Mars, the film packs an amazing visual flair. Appropriate due to the fact that the director is from Pixar.

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