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** Komato Annihilators are feared in and out of universe, for their incredible endurance, size, and firepower. Several Tasen logbooks go as far to say that fighting an Annihilator is pure suicide. [[spoiler: Even the Komato themselves are afraid of them, after one killed its entire platoon of several hundred soldiers at the ship Cieratako in an attempt to raise its kill counter.]] You can actually [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential invoke this yourself]], [[spoiler:activating an Annihilator to go nuts on its own allies as at least one trooper will start shouting "[[OhCrap CIERATAKO]]" amidst the slaughter.]]

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** Komato Annihilators are feared in and out of universe, for their incredible endurance, size, and firepower. Several Tasen logbooks go as far to say that fighting an Annihilator is pure suicide. [[spoiler: Even the Komato themselves are afraid of them, after one killed its entire platoon of several hundred soldiers at the ship Cieratako Ciretako in an attempt to raise its kill counter.]] You can actually [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential invoke this yourself]], [[spoiler:activating an Annihilator to go nuts on its own allies as at least one trooper will start shouting "[[OhCrap CIERATAKO]]" CIRETAKO]]" amidst the slaughter.]]
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** If you're on a murdering run, [[NominalHero Iji herself]]. In the Pacifist run, she'll be hesitant, try to be nice when she isn't freaking out about something, and keep her head on straight, but in a violent run, she's downright ''bloodthirsty'', hungering for revenge and practically basking in the slaughter she gets to commit upon the foes in her way. And, depending on your playstyle and how you work through the game, Iji can become a [[OneManArmy One-Cyborg-Army]] that can go toe-to-toe with the strongest of both the Tasen and the Komato, even the Annihilators above, ''and win'', causing everybody to be horrified at her mere existence of a being [[OutsideContextProblem no one could've seen coming.]]

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** If you're on a murdering run, [[NominalHero Iji herself]]. In the Pacifist run, she'll be hesitant, try to be nice when she isn't freaking out about something, and keep her head on straight, but in a violent run, she's downright ''bloodthirsty'', hungering for revenge and practically basking in the slaughter she gets to commit upon the foes in her way. And, depending on your playstyle and how you work through the game, Iji can become a [[OneManArmy One-Cyborg-Army]] One-Cyborg Army]] that can go toe-to-toe with the strongest of both the Tasen and the Komato, even the Annihilators above, ''and win'', causing everybody to be horrified at her mere existence of a being [[OutsideContextProblem no one could've seen coming.]]

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** Komato Annihilators are feared in and out of universe, for their incredible endurance, size, and firepower. Several Tasen logbooks go as far to say that fighting an Annihilator is pure suicide. [[spoiler: Even the Komato themselves are afraid of them, after one killed its entire platoon of several hundred soldiers at the ship Cieratako in an attempt to raise its kill counter.]]

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** Komato Annihilators are feared in and out of universe, for their incredible endurance, size, and firepower. Several Tasen logbooks go as far to say that fighting an Annihilator is pure suicide. [[spoiler: Even the Komato themselves are afraid of them, after one killed its entire platoon of several hundred soldiers at the ship Cieratako in an attempt to raise its kill counter.]] You can actually [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential invoke this yourself]], [[spoiler:activating an Annihilator to go nuts on its own allies as at least one trooper will start shouting "[[OhCrap CIERATAKO]]" amidst the slaughter.]]
** Certain scenes throughout the game will play a dark, droning soundtrack to set up that something ''very'' bad is about to happen, and usually in the latter half of the game this means someone is going to die. But nothing is quite as eerie as hearing that ambient noise amidst a hidden sector ''filled'' with teleporting Komato Assassins in the dark, or [[spoiler:finding the final Tasen outpost on a non-Innocent run.. where [[EverybodysDeadDave Iosa got there first.]]]]
** If you're on a murdering run, [[NominalHero Iji herself]]. In the Pacifist run, she'll be hesitant, try to be nice when she isn't freaking out about something, and keep her head on straight, but in a violent run, she's downright ''bloodthirsty'', hungering for revenge and practically basking in the slaughter she gets to commit upon the foes in her way. And, depending on your playstyle and how you work through the game, Iji can become a [[OneManArmy One-Cyborg-Army]] that can go toe-to-toe with the strongest of both the Tasen and the Komato, even the Annihilators above, ''and win'', causing everybody to be horrified at her mere existence of a being [[OutsideContextProblem no one could've seen coming.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Despite the game's message that "the enemy" are people too, many players found it a good deal easier to kill Komato than Tasen. It's not surprising that portraying a species whose [[PlanetOfHats hat]] is being genocidal {{Sociopathic Soldier}}s as sympathetic would be difficult, to say the least. Even Daniel Remar has remarked that he may have gone too far with how he portrayed them.
** For that matter, the Tasen themselves. The game attempts to paint them as just another victim of the Komato, but when that victimhood involves running away from them, glassing any planet that they find in order to live on it, as well as dragging any race they encounter into a war with the Komato, thus making their problems the problem of everyone else, and then proceed to defend themselves by claiming they suffered more, they tend to not look the most sympathetic.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
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Despite the game's message that "the enemy" are people too, many players found it a good deal easier to kill Komato than Tasen. It's not surprising that portraying a species whose [[PlanetOfHats hat]] is being genocidal {{Sociopathic Soldier}}s as sympathetic would be difficult, to say the least. Even Daniel Remar has remarked that he may have gone too far with how he portrayed them.
** For that matter, the The Tasen themselves. The game attempts to paint them as just another victim of the Komato, but when that victimhood involves running away from them, glassing any planet that they find in order to live on it, as well as dragging any race they encounter into a war with the Komato, thus making their problems the problem of everyone else, and then proceed to defend themselves by claiming they suffered more, they tend to not look the most sympathetic.
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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Ansaksie is mistaken for a guy fairly often. Ironically, she was specifically made female to differentiate her from Asha. Also, many players thought the diary writer to be a guy from reading her diaries, since it's all just text logs with no voice for comparison and the number of times she refers to her girlfriend outweighs the number of references to her own gender.

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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Ansaksie is mistaken for a guy fairly often. Ironically, she was specifically made female to differentiate her from Asha. Also, many players thought the diary writer Wak Torma (aka "PAIE") to be a guy from reading her diaries, since it's all just text logs with no voice for comparison and the number of times she refers to her girlfriend outweighs the number of references to her own gender.
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** For that matter, the Tasen themselves. The game attempts to paint them as just another victim of the Komato, but when that victimhood involves running away from them, glassing any planet that they find in order to live on it, as well as dragging any race they encounter into a war with the Komato, thus making their problems the problem of everyone else, and then proceed to defend themselves by claiming they suffered more, they tend to not look the most sympathetic.

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* AnticlimaxBoss: Invinciblity or otherwise, Iosa's second phase goes by quite quickly. And the first phase is just easy; she insists on patrolling back and forth below platforms conveniently located for you to jump out of reach of her guns.

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* AnticlimaxBoss: Invinciblity Invincible or otherwise, Iosa's second phase goes by quite quickly. And is a RushBoss ''heavily'' in the player's favor, even on Ultimortal difficulty she can be reliably beaten in one cycle. Her first phase is just easy; almost as easy, as she insists on patrolling back and forth below platforms conveniently located for you to jump out of reach of her guns.guns. If you're playing pacifist, then [[spoiler:Ansaksie chipping in with her weapons against Iosa]] makes her go down even quicker.



** The Null Driver is a literal example. Firing it will lead to random changes in crucial data, up to and including changing the size and shape of the level geometry. Fortunately, the changes aren't permanent. Also a straight example as well. Proper use of it allows you to fully level up all attributes by Sector 2. Which is why it's only unlocked once everything else is, '''and''' has to be reacquired ''every time you start the game''.

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** The Null Driver is a literal ''literal'' example. Firing it will lead to random changes in crucial data, up to and including changing the size and shape of the level geometry. Fortunately, the changes aren't permanent. Also a straight example as well. Proper use of it allows you to fully level up all attributes by Sector 2. Which is why it's only unlocked once everything else is, '''and''' has to be reacquired ''every time you start the game''.



** Banana Gun is the only weapon whose projectiles are affected by gravity, which lets you deal punishment while being out of all harm's way.
** The Massacre would be one if it were availiable anywhere outside final boss fight.

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** The Banana Gun is the only weapon whose projectiles are affected by gravity, which lets you deal punishment while being out of all harm's way.
** The Massacre would be one if Massacre. Though it's only available when [[spoiler:reaching the FinalBoss with zero kills]], it were availiable anywhere outside final boss fight.turns the difficulty into a complete joke with its screen-wide blasts that can deal several Elites worth of damage in a single shot. Even the cost of [[CastFromHitPoints 50 Armor per shot]] is nothing compared to the sheer ''obliteration'' this thing does.



** Komato Beasts, which are [[spoiler: former Komato turned into animalistic mutants.]]

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** Komato Beasts, which are [[spoiler: former [[spoiler:former Komato turned into animalistic mutants.]]



* ThatOneBoss: [[ArchEnemy Asha]], the second time you fight him. While having ludicrously low HitPoints, even lower than you, he [[TeleportSpam teleports around like crazy]], [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard dodges every attack except the shotgun and the buster gun]], which he [[{{Pride}} considers it cowardly to dodge]], and constantly attacks you with his LaserBlade as well as [[BeamSpam spamming]] his [[GameBreaker Plasma Cannon]]. Fortunately, he's a SkippableBoss on Normal, Hard and [[HarderThanHard Extreme]] difficulties. Unfortunately, he's not skippable on Ultimortal. That in itself is half the reason Ultimortal is harder than Extreme. Oh, and he's harder too, requiring lightning reflexes to dodge.

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* ThatOneAttack: The Tyrian Claw[=/=]Arch Devastator combo that Tor can throw out during his fight fills the screen with fast-moving projectiles, especially on harder difficulties.
* ThatOneBoss: [[ArchEnemy Asha]], the second time you fight him. While having ludicrously low HitPoints, even lower than you, He only has 10 Health, but he [[TeleportSpam teleports around like crazy]], [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard dodges every attack except the shotgun Shotgun and the buster gun]], Buster Gun]], which he [[{{Pride}} considers it cowardly to dodge]], and constantly attacks you with his LaserBlade as well as [[BeamSpam spamming]] his [[GameBreaker Plasma Cannon]].Cannon all over the place. Fortunately, he's a SkippableBoss on Normal, Hard and [[HarderThanHard Extreme]] difficulties. Unfortunately, he's not skippable on Ultimortal. That in itself is half the reason Ultimortal is harder than Extreme. Oh, Extreme, and he's harder too, requiring lightning reflexes he gets a ''massive'' boost to dodge.his speed on this difficulty too.



* TheWoobie: Iji, and to a lesser extent, the Diary Writer.

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* TheWoobie: Iji, and to a lesser extent, the Diary Writer.
Wak Torma (the Tasen diary writer).
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters Is Ansaksie a]] selfless KnightInSourArmor heroine, a lunatic, a NecessarillyEvil KnightTemplar or a WellIntentionedExtremist who is going ''way'' too far?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters Is Ansaksie a]] selfless KnightInSourArmor heroine, a lunatic, a NecessarillyEvil NecessarilyEvil KnightTemplar or a WellIntentionedExtremist who is going ''way'' too far?
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters Is Ansaksie a]] selfless KnightInSourArmor heroine, a lunatic, a NecessaryEvil KnightTemplar or a WellIntentionedExtremist who is going ''way'' too far?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters Is Ansaksie a]] selfless KnightInSourArmor heroine, a lunatic, a NecessaryEvil NecessarillyEvil KnightTemplar or a WellIntentionedExtremist who is going ''way'' too far?
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* AnticlimaxBoss: Invinciblity or otherwise, Iosa's second phase goes by quite quickly. And the first phase is just easy; she insists on patrolling back and forth below platforms conveniently located for you to jump out of reach of her guns.
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** Banana Gun is the only weapon whose projectiles are affected by gravity, which lets you deal punishment while being out of all harm's way.
** The Massacre would be one if it were availiable anywhere outside final boss fight.
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Correction when it comes to the "planet gets nuked" part. She tries, but it doesn't work.


* UnintentionallySympathetic: Violent Iji. The narrative tries to portray her as a hypocritical bloodthirsty mass murderer, but the problem is that she's in an active warzone surrounded by one faction of aliens whose policy is "wipe out all humans first, explain [[spoiler:problems with space Nazis]] later" and one other faction whose policy is "glass Earth to wipe out the ashes and bones of the first guys", both of whom are trying to kill her on sight. With that in mind, it's very hard to see Iji's actions as anything but perfectly justified self-defense. She sometimes gets ''more'' kudos for her position if you see the Pacifist mode conversations. Aside from Vateilika, neither Tasen nor Komato will sit down and listen to a pacifist Iji. Elite Krotera tries to justify his disinterest in the remaining humans by arguing Tasen numbers ''despite glassing over 600 times that for the Tasen''. And [[spoiler:sparing Iosa will cause her to backstab Iji, kill Tor, and activate the damn alpha strike herself since Tor won't do it]]. No wonder Iji goes violent, so few on the opposite side would listen and work with her anyways, and justify their actions with such flimsy reasoning, it's almost easier to fight back in self-defense.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Violent Iji. The narrative tries to portray her as a hypocritical bloodthirsty mass murderer, but the problem is that she's in an active warzone surrounded by one faction of aliens whose policy is "wipe out all humans first, explain [[spoiler:problems with space Nazis]] later" and one other faction whose policy is "glass Earth to wipe out the ashes and bones of the first guys", both of whom are trying to kill her on sight. With that in mind, it's very hard to see Iji's actions as anything but perfectly justified self-defense. She sometimes gets ''more'' kudos for her position if you see the Pacifist mode conversations. Aside from Vateilika, neither Tasen nor Komato will sit down and listen to a pacifist Iji. Elite Krotera tries to justify his disinterest in the remaining humans by arguing Tasen numbers ''despite glassing over 600 times that for the Tasen''. And [[spoiler:sparing Iosa will cause her to backstab Iji, kill Tor, Iji and attempt to activate the damn alpha strike herself since when Tor won't do it]].it (and subsequently kills him when it doesn't work)]]. No wonder Iji goes violent, so few on the opposite side would listen and work with her anyways, and justify their actions with such flimsy reasoning, it's almost easier to fight back in self-defense.
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* MinimalistRun: Ultimortal, the highest difficulty, enforces this by removing all health pickups and limiting you to upgrading only your health, as well as by imposing a harsh time limit.


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* SpiritualSequel: To ''VideoGame/SystemShock'', but also to another, scrapped game Daniel Remar made, satirically titled ''Killman''. It's available in [[http://www.remar.se/daniel/scrappack2.php the second scrap pack]].
** ''Iji'' can also be considered the spiritual predecessor to ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'', as it uses WhatMeasureIsAMook to deconstruct shoot-em-ups in much the same way the other game deconstructed [=RPGs=].
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IMO, Iosa phase 2 is one of the hardest bosses in the game


* AnticlimaxBoss: Invinciblity or otherwise, Iosa's second phase goes by quite quickly. And the first phase is just easy; she insists on patrolling back and forth below platforms conveniently located for you to jump out of reach of her guns.

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* GoddamnedBats: Komato Skysmashers, flying turret guns that dodge around so you can't easily hit them and pack some serious firepower. When they do go down they explode, which hurts you. To quote the game creator, "No-one likes the Skysmashers."

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** The humble Plasma Cannon is no slouch, especially with high Attack. For just two Shocksplinter ammo, you can OneHitKill anything that isn't an Elite, Berserker, Annihilator, or boss, and it has penetration!
* GoddamnedBats: GoddamnedBats:
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Komato Skysmashers, extremely mobile flying turret guns Turrets armed with Shocksplinters that dodge around so you can't easily hit them and pack some serious firepower. When are extremely difficult to land hits on. And like regular Turrets, they do go down explode when they explode, which hurts you.die. To quote the game creator, "No-one likes the Skysmashers.""
** Komato Assassins love to abuse their TeleportSpam and are effectively immune to projectiles, and have a tendency to teleport right in front of the player for their melee attack.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Violent Iji. The narrative tries to portray her as a hypocritical bloodthirsty mass murderer, but the problem is that she's in an active warzone surrounded by one faction of aliens whose policy is "wipe out all humans first, explain [[spoiler:problems with space Nazis]] later" and one other faction whose policy is "glass Earth to wipe out the ashes and bones of the first guys", both of whom are trying to kill her on sight. With that in mind, it's very hard to see Iji's actions as anything but perfectly justified self-defense.
** Violent Iji sometimes gets ''more'' kudos for her position if you see the Pacifist mode conversations. Aside from Vateilika, neither Tasen nor Komato will sit down and listen to a pacifist!Iji. Elite Krotera tries to justify his disinterest in the remaining humans by arguing Tasen numbers ''despite glassing over 600 times that for the Tasen''. And [[spoiler:sparing Iosa will cause her to backstab Iji, kill Tor, and activate the damn alpha strike herself since Tor won't do it]]. No wonder Iji goes violent, so few on the opposite side would listen and work with her anyways, and justify their actions with such flimsy reasoning, it's almost easier to fight back in self-defense.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Violent Iji. The narrative tries to portray her as a hypocritical bloodthirsty mass murderer, but the problem is that she's in an active warzone surrounded by one faction of aliens whose policy is "wipe out all humans first, explain [[spoiler:problems with space Nazis]] later" and one other faction whose policy is "glass Earth to wipe out the ashes and bones of the first guys", both of whom are trying to kill her on sight. With that in mind, it's very hard to see Iji's actions as anything but perfectly justified self-defense.
** Violent Iji
self-defense. She sometimes gets ''more'' kudos for her position if you see the Pacifist mode conversations. Aside from Vateilika, neither Tasen nor Komato will sit down and listen to a pacifist!Iji.pacifist Iji. Elite Krotera tries to justify his disinterest in the remaining humans by arguing Tasen numbers ''despite glassing over 600 times that for the Tasen''. And [[spoiler:sparing Iosa will cause her to backstab Iji, kill Tor, and activate the damn alpha strike herself since Tor won't do it]]. No wonder Iji goes violent, so few on the opposite side would listen and work with her anyways, and justify their actions with such flimsy reasoning, it's almost easier to fight back in self-defense.
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** Violent Iji sometimes gets ''more'' kudos for her position if you see the Pacifist mode conversations. Aside from Vateilika, neither Tasen nor Komato will sit down and listen to a pacifist!Iji. Elite Krotera tries to justify his disinterest in the remaining humans by arguing Tasen numbers ''despite glassing over 600 times that for the Tasen''. And [[spoiler:sparing Iosa will cause her to backstab Iji, kill Tor, and activate the damn alpha strike herself since Tor won't do it]]. No wonder Iji goes violent, so few on the opposite side would listen and work with her anyways, and justify their actions with such flimsy reasoning, it's almost easier to fight back in self-defense.
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* SignatureScene: The final battle against General Tor is easily the most famed and well remembered part of the game.
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* AlasPoorScrappy: [[spoiler: Dan.]] He's a manipulative bossy jerk and some of his early dialogue veers almost into {{Kick The Dog}} territory, but [[spoiler:then he possibly dies.]]

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* AlasPoorScrappy: [[spoiler: Dan.]] He's a manipulative bossy jerk and some of his early dialogue veers almost into {{Kick The Dog}} KickTheDog territory, but [[spoiler:then he possibly dies.dies, and Iji completely breaks down upon losing her sole remaining family.]]



* UnintentionallySympathetic: Violent Iji. The narrative tries to portray her as a hypocritical bloodthirsty mass murderer, but the problem is that she's in an active warzone surrounded by one faction of aliens whose policy is "wipe out all humans first, explain [[spoiler:problems with space Nazis]] later" and one faction of space Nazis, both of whom are trying to kill her on sight. With that in mind, it's very hard to see Iji's actions as anything but perfectly justified self-defense.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Violent Iji. The narrative tries to portray her as a hypocritical bloodthirsty mass murderer, but the problem is that she's in an active warzone surrounded by one faction of aliens whose policy is "wipe out all humans first, explain [[spoiler:problems with space Nazis]] later" and one other faction whose policy is "glass Earth to wipe out the ashes and bones of space Nazis, the first guys", both of whom are trying to kill her on sight. With that in mind, it's very hard to see Iji's actions as anything but perfectly justified self-defense.

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** Komato Annihilators are feared in and out of universe, for their incredible endurance, size, and firepower. Several Tasen logbooks go as far to say that fighting an Anihilator is pure suicide. [[spoiler: Even the Komato themselves are afraid of them, after one killed its entire platoon of several hundred soldiers at the ship Cieratako in an attempt to raise its kill counter.]]

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** Komato Annihilators are feared in and out of universe, for their incredible endurance, size, and firepower. Several Tasen logbooks go as far to say that fighting an Anihilator Annihilator is pure suicide. [[spoiler: Even the Komato themselves are afraid of them, after one killed its entire platoon of several hundred soldiers at the ship Cieratako in an attempt to raise its kill counter.]]


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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Violent Iji. The narrative tries to portray her as a hypocritical bloodthirsty mass murderer, but the problem is that she's in an active warzone surrounded by one faction of aliens whose policy is "wipe out all humans first, explain [[spoiler:problems with space Nazis]] later" and one faction of space Nazis, both of whom are trying to kill her on sight. With that in mind, it's very hard to see Iji's actions as anything but perfectly justified self-defense.
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** reallyjoel's Dad. After a Youtube user named "reallyjoel" posted a comment on Daniel Remar's own speedrun video saying that his dad could do better, there's been a running joke that reallyjoel's Dad is the best gamer in the world, and that there's a top-secret "reallyjoel's Dad" difficulty mode. Daniel said that reallyjoel's Dad played said difficulty and beat it so hard that it was wiped from existence. However, [[spoiler:[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysykKz4mBFY It's still in the game]], and it's as [[{{Unwinnable}} impossible]] as they say]].

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** reallyjoel's Dad. After a Youtube user named "reallyjoel" posted a comment on Daniel Remar's own speedrun video saying that his dad could do better, there's been a running joke that reallyjoel's Dad is the best gamer in the world, and that there's a top-secret "reallyjoel's Dad" difficulty mode. Daniel said that reallyjoel's Dad played said difficulty and beat it so hard that it was wiped from existence. However, [[spoiler:[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysykKz4mBFY It's it's still in the game]], and it's as [[{{Unwinnable}} impossible]] as they say]].
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* + reallyjoel's Dad. After a Youtube user named "reallyjoel" posted a comment on Daniel Remar's own speedrun video saying that his dad could do better, there's been a running joke that reallyjoel's Dad is the best gamer in the world, and that there's a top-secret "reallyjoel's Dad" difficulty mode. Daniel said that reallyjoel's Dad played said difficulty and beat it so hard that it was wiped from existence. However, [[spoiler:[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysykKz4mBFY It's still in the game]], and it's as [[{{Unwinnable}} impossible]] as they say]].

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* + ** reallyjoel's Dad. After a Youtube user named "reallyjoel" posted a comment on Daniel Remar's own speedrun video saying that his dad could do better, there's been a running joke that reallyjoel's Dad is the best gamer in the world, and that there's a top-secret "reallyjoel's Dad" difficulty mode. Daniel said that reallyjoel's Dad played said difficulty and beat it so hard that it was wiped from existence. However, [[spoiler:[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysykKz4mBFY It's still in the game]], and it's as [[{{Unwinnable}} impossible]] as they say]].

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* BestBossEver: The fight with General Tor. Not only is it the most difficult and intense one in the game, it is fought at the sound of SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic.

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The fight with General Tor. Not only is it the most difficult and intense one in the game, it is fought at the sound of SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic.



* DracoInLeatherPants: The Tasen in general, really. While there are a few good ones, they apparently contrast so much with the Komato that many, many fans make them out as almost saintly. While they aren't as vicious as the Komato, there's still the problem that they ''tried to wipe out life on Earth'', and that's not touching on all their war crimes in the backstory - [[{{Moral Event Horizon}} what they did to Iosa's planet]] stands out.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: DracoInLeatherPants:
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The Tasen in general, really. While there are a few good ones, they apparently contrast so much with the Komato that many, many fans make them out as almost saintly. While they aren't as vicious as the Komato, there's still the problem that they ''tried to wipe out life on Earth'', and that's not touching on all their war crimes in the backstory - [[{{Moral Event Horizon}} what they did to Iosa's planet]] stands out.



* GameBreaker: The Null Driver is a literal example. Firing it will lead to random changes in crucial data, up to and including changing the size and shape of the level geometry. Fortunately, the changes aren't permanent. Also a straight example as well. Proper use of it allows you to fully level up all attributes by Sector 2.
** Which is why it's only unlocked once everything else is, '''and''' has to be reacquired ''every time you start the game''.

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* GameBreaker: GameBreaker:
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The Null Driver is a literal example. Firing it will lead to random changes in crucial data, up to and including changing the size and shape of the level geometry. Fortunately, the changes aren't permanent. Also a straight example as well. Proper use of it allows you to fully level up all attributes by Sector 2.
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2. Which is why it's only unlocked once everything else is, '''and''' has to be reacquired ''every time you start the game''.



* {{Memetic Badass}}: reallyjoel's Dad. After a Youtube user named "reallyjoel" posted a comment on Daniel Remar's own speedrun video saying that his dad could do better, there's been a running joke that reallyjoel's Dad is the best gamer in the world, and that there's a top-secret "reallyjoel's Dad" difficulty mode. Daniel said that reallyjoel's Dad played said difficulty and beat it so hard that it was wiped from existence. However, [[spoiler:[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysykKz4mBFY It's still in the game]], and it's as [[{{Unwinnable}} impossible]] as they say]].
** Also, Yukabacera.
*** When you reach Yukabacera in the game, you're [[KingMook quickly introduced]] to why he's treated as a legitimate threat: he moves like a greased squirrel on pop rocks, Mountain Dew and cocaine, [[LightningBruiser and his attacks]] ''[[LightningBruiser hurt.]]'' The [[SillinessSwitch drop]] is worth it, though.

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reallyjoel's Dad. After a Youtube user named "reallyjoel" posted a comment on Daniel Remar's own speedrun video saying that his dad could do better, there's been a running joke that reallyjoel's Dad is the best gamer in the world, and that there's a top-secret "reallyjoel's Dad" difficulty mode. Daniel said that reallyjoel's Dad played said difficulty and beat it so hard that it was wiped from existence. However, [[spoiler:[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysykKz4mBFY It's still in the game]], and it's as [[{{Unwinnable}} impossible]] as they say]].
** Also, Yukabacera.
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Yukabacera. When you reach Yukabacera in the game, you're [[KingMook quickly introduced]] to why he's treated as a legitimate threat: he moves like a greased squirrel on pop rocks, Mountain Dew and cocaine, [[LightningBruiser and his attacks]] ''[[LightningBruiser hurt.]]'' The [[SillinessSwitch drop]] is worth it, though.



*** "No missile pony for you."
* MoralEventHorizon: Asha [[spoiler: holding Dan hostage and possibly even killing him depending on the player's actions]] is this both out and in-universe. Even on a pacifist run, Iji has no qualms about killing Asha after this point.

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*** ** "No missile pony for you."
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Asha [[spoiler: holding Dan hostage and possibly even killing him depending on the player's actions]] is this both out and in-universe. Even on a pacifist run, Iji has no qualms about killing Asha after this point.



* NightmareFuel: Komato Beasts, which are [[spoiler: former Komato turned into animalistic mutants.]]

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Komato Beasts, which are [[spoiler: former Komato turned into animalistic mutants.]]



* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: At one point, during a discussion on how [[VideoGame/{{Portal}} portal guns]] violate the law of conservation of energy, we cut to Dan watching Ron fall through an infinite portal loop while [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Kyubey]] freaks out in the foreground. No one acknowledges he's there, it's not brought up in the narration, and he's never mentioned again. Captain Lhurgoyf just included it as a one-off non sequitur joke.

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At one point, during a discussion on how [[VideoGame/{{Portal}} portal guns]] violate the law of conservation of energy, we cut to Dan watching Ron fall through an infinite portal loop while [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Kyubey]] freaks out in the foreground. No one acknowledges he's there, it's not brought up in the narration, and he's never mentioned again. Captain Lhurgoyf just included it as a one-off non sequitur joke.
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop:
** Some of the Komato state the logical, if abhorrent, conclusion that since [[spoiler:their species is doomed anyways]], the Tasen's desperate attempts to avoid their fate only lead to more suffering for all involved. Krotera makes the exact same point with regard to humans.
** 1.7 ultimately comes to the conclusion that absolute pacifism doesn't work. Against an enemy you can't reason with, the proper solution is to execute them in cold blood if you don't want them coming after you.
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** Ansaksie can also be subject to this, although there's a bit of justification in that her more dickish actions [[AllThereInTheManual are never mentioned in the game.]] The most dickish she gets in the actual game is attacking you in Deep Sector (which she immediately explains and apologizes for on a pacifist run) and being ''way'' too gleeful about Iosa's death in 1.7.

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** Ansaksie can also be subject to this, although there's a bit of justification in that her more dickish actions [[AllThereInTheManual are never mentioned in the game.]] The most dickish she gets in the actual game is her squadron attacking you in Deep Sector (which she immediately explains and apologizes for on a pacifist run) and being ''way'' too gleeful about Iosa's death in 1.7.
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* ThatOneBoss: [[ArchEnemy Asha]], the second time you fight him. While having ludicrously low HitPoints, even lower than you, he [[TeleportSpam teleports around like crazy]], [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard dodges every attack except the shotgun and the buster gun]], which he [[{{Pride}} considers it cowardly to dodge]], and constantly attacks you with his LaserBlade as well as [[BeamSpam spamming]] his [[GameBreaker Plasma Cannon]]. Fortunately, he's a SkippableBoss on Normal, Hard and [[HarderThanHard Extreme]] difficulties. Unfortunately, he's not skippable on Ultimortal. That in itself is half the reason Ultimortal is harder than Extreme. [[CaptainObvious Oh, and he's harder too]], requiring lightning reflexes to dodge.

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* ThatOneBoss: [[ArchEnemy Asha]], the second time you fight him. While having ludicrously low HitPoints, even lower than you, he [[TeleportSpam teleports around like crazy]], [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard dodges every attack except the shotgun and the buster gun]], which he [[{{Pride}} considers it cowardly to dodge]], and constantly attacks you with his LaserBlade as well as [[BeamSpam spamming]] his [[GameBreaker Plasma Cannon]]. Fortunately, he's a SkippableBoss on Normal, Hard and [[HarderThanHard Extreme]] difficulties. Unfortunately, he's not skippable on Ultimortal. That in itself is half the reason Ultimortal is harder than Extreme. [[CaptainObvious Oh, and he's harder too]], too, requiring lightning reflexes to dodge.
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** If there's any proof that Iosa is truly irredeemable, it's the fact that [[spoiler: if you spare her, she simply ambushes Iji after the FinalBoss battle and kills her before trying to threaten Tor into going through with the Alpha Strike, and then killing him when she doesn't get her way.]]

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* BestBossEver: The fight with General Tor. Not only is it the most difficult and intense one in the game, it is fought at the sound of AwesomeMusic.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
** [[https://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0DCF936733BF2A25 The entire soundtrack, no question.]].
** But out of them all, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYt-c0ofZ0o&feature=related the final boss theme]] is generally considered the best.
* BestBossEver: The fight with General Tor. Not only is it the most difficult and intense one in the game, it is fought at the sound of AwesomeMusic.SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic.



* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: "Aw, just say it out loud, bro." [[spoiler:However, you'll only get to see it if you save Dan and get all of the ribbons.]]
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: [[https://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0DCF936733BF2A25 The entire soundtrack, no question.]].
** But out of them all, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYt-c0ofZ0o&feature=related the final boss theme]] is generally considered the best.


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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: "Aw, just say it out loud, bro." [[spoiler:However, you'll only get to see it if you save Dan and get all of the ribbons.]]
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** As of version 1.7, [[spoiler: Iji herself]] can pass this if [[spoiler: she gets over 300 kills and then chooses to kill Tor at the end. Kiran calls her out on murdering her only hope of aborting the Alpha Strike and saving Earth for the sake of revenge, tells her that Tor was testing her resolve, and [[DownerEnding orders the Alpha Strike to go ahead immediately]]]].

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** As of version 1.7, [[spoiler: Iji herself]] can pass this if [[spoiler: she gets over 300 kills and then chooses to kill Tor at the end. Kiran Kiron calls her out on murdering her only hope of aborting the Alpha Strike and saving Earth for the sake of revenge, tells her that Tor was testing her resolve, and [[DownerEnding orders the Alpha Strike to go ahead immediately]]]].

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