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* FaceOfTheBand: Alex Hofmann when he was in; in the wake of his departure, Scott Carstairs has taken this role.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Antonio Palermo. He had his share of defenders and people who are skeptical, but willing to give him a chance, but it was safe to say that a ''lot'' of fans have not been accepting of him, and when it was revealed that he was out and had been replaced by Kyle Schaefer, few fans lamented the news.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Antonio Palermo. He had his share of defenders was widely disliked by the fanbase and people who are skeptical, but willing to give him a chance, but it was safe to say one of the biggest points of contention on ''Undying Light'', and while he did make major improvements vocally as time went on, the general consensus was that a ''lot'' of fans have not been accepting of him, he was in the wrong band and when was never going to be a good fit for Fallujah. When it was revealed that he was out and had been replaced by Kyle Schaefer, few fans lamented the news.
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Tony's out and it seems like no one minds, and no one liked him to begin with.
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* BrokenBase:
** ''Undying Light''. Is it a natural progression of the sound that they had been moving towards for a long time, or is it the band giving up everything unique and original to sell out and kneel prostrate before mainstream audiences?
** Antonio Palermo. Is he an unorthodox and daring choice whose style is better at conveying emotion than Alex whose ability to do cleans is a necessity for the band to move forward, or his he an out-of-place shouter who sounds like he came straight out of the dregs of the Warped Tour?
** ''Undying Light''. Is it a natural progression of the sound that they had been moving towards for a long time, or is it the band giving up everything unique and original to sell out and kneel prostrate before mainstream audiences?
** Antonio Palermo. Is he an unorthodox and daring choice whose style is better at conveying emotion than Alex whose ability to do cleans is a necessity for the band to move forward, or his he an out-of-place shouter who sounds like he came straight out of the dregs of the Warped Tour?
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* ReplacementScrappy: Antonio Palermo. He has his share of defenders and people who are skeptical, but willing to give him a chance, but it is safe to say that a ''lot'' of fans have not been accepting of him.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Antonio Palermo. He has had his share of defenders and people who are skeptical, but willing to give him a chance, but it is was safe to say that a ''lot'' of fans have not been accepting of him.him, and when it was revealed that he was out and had been replaced by Kyle Schaefer, few fans lamented the news.
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* ContestedSequel: ''Undying Light''. Its many detractors will cite it as a rushed, half-baked album that should have spent way more time being tweaked and retooled and a sign of Scott's ego growing out of control, while even its defenders will usually admit that it has serious issues with memorability and generally feels unfinished.
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Cleaning
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* BaseBreaker: ''Everything'' about ''Undying Light''.
** Is it a natural progression of the sound that they had been moving towards for a long time, or is it the band giving up everything unique and original to sell out and kneel prostrate before mainstream audiences?
** Is it a natural progression of the sound that they had been moving towards for a long time, or is it the band giving up everything unique and original to sell out and kneel prostrate before mainstream audiences?
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* BaseBreaker: ''Everything'' about BrokenBase:
** ''UndyingLight''.
**Light''. Is it a natural progression of the sound that they had been moving towards for a long time, or is it the band giving up everything unique and original to sell out and kneel prostrate before mainstream audiences?
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* SignatureSong: "Sapphire".
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* SignatureSong: "Sapphire"."Sapphire" and/or "The Void Alone".
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* SignatureSong: "Sapphire".
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* SignatureSong: "Sapphire"."Sapphire".
* TearJerker: The entirety of ''Dreamless'', but especially the final four songs, conveying a deep sense of catharsis.
* TearJerker: The entirety of ''Dreamless'', but especially the final four songs, conveying a deep sense of catharsis.
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* BaseBreaker: ''Everything'' about ''Undying Light''.
** Is it a natural progression of the sound that they had been moving towards for a long time, or is it the band giving up everything unique and original to sell out and kneel prostrate before mainstream audiences?
** Antonio Palermo. Is he an unorthodox and daring choice whose style is better at conveying emotion than Alex whose ability to do cleans is a necessity for the band to move forward, or his he an out-of-place shouter who sounds like he came straight out of the dregs of the Warped Tour?
** Is it a natural progression of the sound that they had been moving towards for a long time, or is it the band giving up everything unique and original to sell out and kneel prostrate before mainstream audiences?
** Antonio Palermo. Is he an unorthodox and daring choice whose style is better at conveying emotion than Alex whose ability to do cleans is a necessity for the band to move forward, or his he an out-of-place shouter who sounds like he came straight out of the dregs of the Warped Tour?
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* MisBlamed: People who were not happy with ''Undying Light'' blamed Nuclear Blast and/or Antonio Palermo for forcing them to water down their sound. This is not accurate because Scott Carstairs wrote the album with no creative input from Nuclear Blast (and also had the album written before they ever went to Mark Lewis), and the album was written before they even sent the demos to Palermo for vocal tryouts.
* ReplacementScrappy: Antonio Palermo. He has his share of defenders and people who are skeptical, but willing to give him a chance, but it is safe to say that a ''lot'' of fans have not been accepting of him.
* ReplacementScrappy: Antonio Palermo. He has his share of defenders and people who are skeptical, but willing to give him a chance, but it is safe to say that a ''lot'' of fans have not been accepting of him.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Alex Hofmann
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* FaceOfTheBand: Alex HofmannHofmann when he was in; in the wake of his departure, Scott Carstairs has taken this role.
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* SignatureSong: "Sapphire".
* JustForFun/XMeetsY: Music/{{Obscura}} meets Music/{{Deftones}} meets Music/SigurRos meets Music/MassiveAttack.
* JustForFun/XMeetsY: Music/{{Obscura}} meets Music/{{Deftones}} meets Music/SigurRos meets Music/MassiveAttack.
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* SignatureSong: "Sapphire".
* JustForFun/XMeetsY: Music/{{Obscura}} meets Music/{{Deftones}} meets Music/SigurRos meets Music/MassiveAttack."Sapphire".
* JustForFun/XMeetsY: Music/{{Obscura}} meets Music/{{Deftones}} meets Music/SigurRos meets Music/MassiveAttack.
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* SignatureSong: "Sapphire"."Sapphire".
* JustForFun/XMeetsY: Music/{{Obscura}} meets Music/{{Deftones}} meets Music/SigurRos meets Music/MassiveAttack.
* JustForFun/XMeetsY: Music/{{Obscura}} meets Music/{{Deftones}} meets Music/SigurRos meets Music/MassiveAttack.
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* SignatureSong: "Assemblage of Wolves".
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* SignatureSong: "Assemblage of Wolves"."Sapphire".
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* SignatureSong: "Assemblage of Wolves" and "The Dead Sea".
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* SignatureSong: "Assemblage of Wolves" and "The Dead Sea".Wolves".
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* SignatureSong: "Assemblage of Wolves"
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* SignatureSong: "Assemblage of Wolves"Wolves" and "The Dead Sea".
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* FaceOfTheBand: Alex Hoffman
* GrowingTheBeard: ''The Harvest Wombs''. Hoffman certainly thinks that ''Nomadic'' also qualifies.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Alex Hoffman
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* GrowingTheBeard: ''The Harvest Wombs''.Hoffman Hofmann certainly thinks that ''Nomadic'' also qualifies.
* GrowingTheBeard: ''The Harvest Wombs''.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Alex Hoffman
* GrowingTheBeard: ''The Harvest Wombs''. Hoffman certainly thinks that ''Nomadic'' also qualifies.
* SignatureSong: "Assemblage of Wolves"
* GrowingTheBeard: ''The Harvest Wombs''. Hoffman certainly thinks that ''Nomadic'' also qualifies.
* SignatureSong: "Assemblage of Wolves"