YMMV / Dream of the Red Chamber

• Die for Our Ship: Critics and common readers have painted the "interfering characters" in a bad light, for hundreds of years.
• Ho Yay: My goodness, these novels are blatant.
  • Happens most frequently with Baochai's brother Xue Pan, although it's subverted once when he hits on an actor who's actually straight and gets beat up for his trouble.
  • Moreover, the relationship between Bao-yu and his best friend Ching Chun is particularly obvious. They are both attracted to the other's beauty, and it's strongly implied that Bao-yu blackmails Ching Chun into a tryst.
  • Who can forget the amorous antics of the boys at school?
• Obscure Popularity: This novel is influential amongst the Chinese literature, considered one of the four great novels. And yet, amongst these great novels, this title is seriously dwarfed in references by other media. People can understand the reference when they speak of "108 rebels" or "a master, a monkey, a pig, a sandy guy traveling" or "three major powers (usually kingdoms) at war", but there are very few who refer to this novel's "rich family's fall from grace due to love" (though to be fair, people will be aware of the novel as some kind of "love story" between Jia Baoyu and Lin Daiyu).

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