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* DesignatedVillain: The European Union, despite the game portraying them as the villains (with a blurb noting that they often back dictators), alongside the GLA. If you compare them to the APA, the EU are shown to be ALighterShadeOfGrey; unlike the APA, whose generals run the gamut of being a war mongering GeneralRipper, an AxCrazy madman in charge of nukes, two war criminals, and a StrawFeminist -- the generals of the EU are shown to be personable and likable with even their worst general, Bulldog, having noble intentions. The act that made the EU villainous? By declaring independence from the APA and wanting to re-assert their rights (which is exactly how Taiwan became its own nation). The APA's "heroic deed" is ruling Europe and Asia with an iron-fist, which involves oppressing the innocent and crushing any form of dissent (regardless if they have a valid argument or not). It helps that the EU are a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute to the USA (another A Lighter Shade of Grey heroic faction).

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* DesignatedVillain: The European Union, despite the game portraying them as the villains (with a blurb noting that they often back dictators), alongside the GLA. If you compare them to the APA, the EU are shown to be ALighterShadeOfGrey; unlike the APA, whose generals run the gamut of being a war mongering GeneralRipper, an AxCrazy madman in charge of nukes, two war criminals, and a StrawFeminist -- the generals of the EU are shown to be personable and likable with even their worst general, Bulldog, having noble intentions. The act that made the EU villainous? By declaring independence from the APA and wanting to re-assert their rights (which is exactly how Taiwan became its own nation). The APA's "heroic deed" is ruling Europe and Asia with an iron-fist, which involves oppressing the innocent and crushing any form of dissent (regardless if they have a valid argument or not). It helps that the EU are a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute to the USA (another A Lighter Shade of Grey heroic faction).faction with a similarly lighter shade of grey).
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* DesignatedVillain: The European Union, despite the game portraying them as the villains (with a blurb noting that they often back dictators), alongside the GLA. If you compare them to the APA, the EU are shown to be ALighterShadeOfGrey; unlike the APA, whose generals run the gamut of being a war mongering GeneralRipper, an AxCrazy madman in charge of nukes, two war criminals, and a StrawFeminist -- the generals of the EU are shown to be personable and likable with even their worst general, Bulldog, having noble intentions. The act that made the EU villainous? By declaring independence from the APA and wanting to re-assert their rights (which is exactly how Taiwan became its own nation). The APA's heroic action? By ruling Europe and Asia with an iron-fist, which involves oppressing the innocent and crushing any form of dissent (regardless if they have a valid argument or not). It helps that the EU are a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute to the USA (a heroic faction).

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* DesignatedVillain: The European Union, despite the game portraying them as the villains (with a blurb noting that they often back dictators), alongside the GLA. If you compare them to the APA, the EU are shown to be ALighterShadeOfGrey; unlike the APA, whose generals run the gamut of being a war mongering GeneralRipper, an AxCrazy madman in charge of nukes, two war criminals, and a StrawFeminist -- the generals of the EU are shown to be personable and likable with even their worst general, Bulldog, having noble intentions. The act that made the EU villainous? By declaring independence from the APA and wanting to re-assert their rights (which is exactly how Taiwan became its own nation). The APA's heroic action? By "heroic deed" is ruling Europe and Asia with an iron-fist, which involves oppressing the innocent and crushing any form of dissent (regardless if they have a valid argument or not). It helps that the EU are a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute to the USA (a (another A Lighter Shade of Grey heroic faction).
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* DesignatedVillain: The European Union, despite the game portraying them as the villains (with a blurb noting that they often back dictators), alongside the GLA. If you compare them to the APA, the EU are shown to be ALighterShadeOfGrey; unlike the APA, whose generals run the gamut of being a war mongering GeneralRipper, an AxCrazy madman in charge of nukes, two war criminals, and a StrawFeminist -- the generals of the EU are shown to be personable and likable with even their worst general, Bulldog, having noble intentions. It helps that the EU are a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute to the USA (a heroic faction).

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* DesignatedVillain: The European Union, despite the game portraying them as the villains (with a blurb noting that they often back dictators), alongside the GLA. If you compare them to the APA, the EU are shown to be ALighterShadeOfGrey; unlike the APA, whose generals run the gamut of being a war mongering GeneralRipper, an AxCrazy madman in charge of nukes, two war criminals, and a StrawFeminist -- the generals of the EU are shown to be personable and likable with even their worst general, Bulldog, having noble intentions. The act that made the EU villainous? By declaring independence from the APA and wanting to re-assert their rights (which is exactly how Taiwan became its own nation). The APA's heroic action? By ruling Europe and Asia with an iron-fist, which involves oppressing the innocent and crushing any form of dissent (regardless if they have a valid argument or not). It helps that the EU are a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute to the USA (a heroic faction).
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** The APA being portrayed as the [[DesignatedHero protagonists]], particularly given their list of generals is not very flattering. Among them are a pyromaniac who joined the military under a false name (Inferno), a man who gives no shits about UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar (Beast), a person who has explicit mental problems is in charge of nukes (1,000 Suns), and the only female general (Red Arrow) is explicitly running against sexism. Compared to the European Union's, whose worst general (Bulldog) just wants to return Europe to its place of prominence, and both the GLA and EU have two female generals and the only time their gender comes up is with pronoun usage.

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** The APA being portrayed as the [[DesignatedHero protagonists]], particularly given their list of generals is not very flattering. Among them are a GeneralRipper with a [[LeaveNoSurvivors no survivors]] policy (Taskmaster), a pyromaniac who joined the military under a false name (Inferno), a man who gives no shits about UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar (Beast), a person who has explicit ''explicit'' mental problems is in charge of nukes (1,000 Suns), and the only female general (Red Arrow) is explicitly running against sexism. Compared to the European Union's, whose worst general (Bulldog) just wants to return Europe to its place of prominence, and both the GLA and EU have two female generals and the only time their gender comes up is with pronoun usage.
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* DesignatedVillain: The European Union, despite the game portraying them as the villains (with a blurb noting that they often back dictators), alongside the GLA. If you compare them to the APA, the EU are shown to be ALighterShadeOfGrey; unlike the APA, whose generals run the gamut of being a war mongering GeneralRipper, an AxCrazy madman in charge of nukes, and two war criminals, the generals of the EU are shown to be personable and likable with even their worst general, Bulldog, having noble intentions. It helps that the EU are a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute to the USA (a heroic faction).

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* DesignatedVillain: The European Union, despite the game portraying them as the villains (with a blurb noting that they often back dictators), alongside the GLA. If you compare them to the APA, the EU are shown to be ALighterShadeOfGrey; unlike the APA, whose generals run the gamut of being a war mongering GeneralRipper, an AxCrazy madman in charge of nukes, and two war criminals, and a StrawFeminist -- the generals of the EU are shown to be personable and likable with even their worst general, Bulldog, having noble intentions. It helps that the EU are a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute to the USA (a heroic faction).
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* DesignatedVillain: The European Union, despite the game portraying them as the villains (with a blurb noting that they often back dictators), alongside the GLA. If you compare them to the APA, the EU are shown to be ALighterShadeOfGrey; unlike the APA, whose generals run the gamut of being a war mongering GeneralRipper, an AxCrazy madman in charge of nukes, and two war criminals, the generals of the EU are shown to be personable and likable with even their worst general, Bulldog, having noble intentions.

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* DesignatedVillain: The European Union, despite the game portraying them as the villains (with a blurb noting that they often back dictators), alongside the GLA. If you compare them to the APA, the EU are shown to be ALighterShadeOfGrey; unlike the APA, whose generals run the gamut of being a war mongering GeneralRipper, an AxCrazy madman in charge of nukes, and two war criminals, the generals of the EU are shown to be personable and likable with even their worst general, Bulldog, having noble intentions. It helps that the EU are a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute to the USA (a heroic faction).
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* DesignatedVillain: The European Union, despite the game portraying them as the villains (with a blurb noting that they often back dictators), alongside the GLA. If you compare them to the APA, the EU are shown to be a LighterShadeOfGrey; unlike the APA, whose generals run the gamut of being a war mongering GeneralRipper, an AxCrazy madman in charge of nukes, and two war criminals, the generals of the EU are shown to be personable and likable with even their worst general, Bulldog, having noble intentions.

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* DesignatedVillain: The European Union, despite the game portraying them as the villains (with a blurb noting that they often back dictators), alongside the GLA. If you compare them to the APA, the EU are shown to be a LighterShadeOfGrey; ALighterShadeOfGrey; unlike the APA, whose generals run the gamut of being a war mongering GeneralRipper, an AxCrazy madman in charge of nukes, and two war criminals, the generals of the EU are shown to be personable and likable with even their worst general, Bulldog, having noble intentions.
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* DesignatedVillain: The European Union, despite the game portraying them as the villains (with a blurb noting that they often back dictators), alongside the GLA. If you compare them to the APA, the EU are shown to be a LighterShadeOfGrey; unlike the APA, whose generals run the gamut of being a war mongering GeneralRipper, an AxCrazy madman in charge of nukes, and two war criminals, the generals of the EU are shown to be personable and likable with even their worst general, Bulldog, having noble intentions.
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** The APA being portrayed as the protagonists, particularly given their list of generals is not very flattering. Among them are a pyromaniac who joined the military under a false name (Inferno), a man who gives no shits about UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar (Beast), a person who has explicit mental problems is in charge of nukes (1,000 Suns), and the only female general (Red Arrow) is explicitly running against sexism. Compared to the European Union's, whose worst general (Bulldog) just wants to return Europe to its place of prominence, and both the GLA and EU have two female generals and the only time their gender comes up is with pronoun usage.

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** The APA being portrayed as the protagonists, [[DesignatedHero protagonists]], particularly given their list of generals is not very flattering. Among them are a pyromaniac who joined the military under a false name (Inferno), a man who gives no shits about UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar (Beast), a person who has explicit mental problems is in charge of nukes (1,000 Suns), and the only female general (Red Arrow) is explicitly running against sexism. Compared to the European Union's, whose worst general (Bulldog) just wants to return Europe to its place of prominence, and both the GLA and EU have two female generals and the only time their gender comes up is with pronoun usage.
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* BrokenBase: With all the gameplay and stylistic changes from the first ''[[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerGenerals General]]'' and EA losing popularity among the C&C fandom after the poorly received ''[[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberianTwilight Tiberian Twilight]]'', fans are divided between those who think the new ''Command & Conquer'' had potential and was a wasted chance and those who think it was no big loss anyway.



** The APA being portrayed as the protagonists, particularly given their list of generals is not very flattering. Among them are a pyromaniac who joined the military under a false name (Inferno), a man who gives no shits about UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar (Beast), a person who has explicit mental problems is in charge of nukes (1,000 Suns), and the only female general (Red Arrow) is explicitly running against sexism. Compared to the European Union's, whose worst general (Bulldog) just wants to return Europe to its place of prominence, and both the GLA and EU have two female generals and the only time their gender comes up is with pronoun usage.

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** The APA being portrayed as the protagonists, particularly given their list of generals is not very flattering. Among them are a pyromaniac who joined the military under a false name (Inferno), a man who gives no shits about UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar (Beast), a person who has explicit mental problems is in charge of nukes (1,000 Suns), and the only female general (Red Arrow) is explicitly running against sexism. Compared to the European Union's, whose worst general (Bulldog) just wants to return Europe to its place of prominence, and both the GLA and EU have two female generals and the only time their gender comes up is with pronoun usage.usage.
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** The lack of the USA being playable, or even a role, was a sore spot for some even if the EU is its SpiritualSuccessor.

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** The lack of the USA being playable, or even a role, was a sore spot for some even if the EU is its SpiritualSuccessor.spiritual successor.
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** The lack of USA being playable, or even a role, was a sore spot for some even if the EU is its SpiritualSuccessor.

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** The lack of the USA being playable, or even a role, was a sore spot for some even if the EU is its SpiritualSuccessor.
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Tainted By The Preview doesn't require a comparison to the final work.

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**The lack of single player at first caused quite an uproar.
**The lack of USA being playable, or even a role, was a sore spot for some even if the EU is its SpiritualSuccessor.
**The GLA being made more 'politically correct' received some criticism, while others have welcomed the change as it moves beyond a caricature and becomes more representative of a global uprising.
**The APA being portrayed as the protagonists, particularly given their list of generals is not very flattering. Among them are a pyromaniac who joined the military under a false name (Inferno), a man who gives no shits about UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar (Beast), a person who has explicit mental problems is in charge of nukes (1,000 Suns), and the only female general (Red Arrow) is explicitly running against sexism. Compared to the European Union's, whose worst general (Bulldog) just wants to return Europe to its place of prominence, and both the GLA and EU have two female generals and the only time their gender comes up is with pronoun usage.

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