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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: The most hated character from the film is Baby's birth father, who is an abusive unloving alcoholic bastard who hits his wife and yells at Baby whenever he gets the chance just cause he can. [[AssholeVictim He also causes the car crash that got him and his wife killed and gave Baby his tinnitus]]. The villains of the film (both major and minor) are Doc, Griff, Buddy, Darling, Eddie No-Nose, JD, and Bats (and to extent, Doc's nephew Sam and the crew's main arms dealer The Butcher), all of whom are part of a criminal organization who have committed far more severe crimes than Baby's father can ever dream of committing, especially Bats (a mass-murdering trigger-happy psychopath who enjoys committing crimes both major and minor just for the hell of it and is implied to have killed a gas station attendant just so he wouldn't have to pay for the stuff he ordered, even nearly killing Debora for the same reason at the diner she works at had Baby not stopped him), and force Baby to be the wheelman for their crimes as a way to pay off a debt he owes to them. However, they are all very charismatic and entertaining to watch, even carrying an AffablyEvil (even Griff and, to an extent, Bats) and EvilIsCool vibe. This is especially true for Doc, Buddy and Darling, who are the nicest to Baby (especially the latter two). Besides, people in the audience are more likely to know an abusive alcoholic asshole than a group of armed robbers, let alone a murderous psychopath.
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: The most hated character from the film is Baby's birth father, who is an abusive unloving alcoholic bastard who hits his wife and yells at Baby whenever he gets the chance just cause he can. [[AssholeVictim He also causes the car crash that got him and his wife killed and gave Baby his tinnitus]]. The villains of the film (both major and minor) are include Doc, Griff, Buddy, Darling, Eddie No-Nose, JD, and Bats (and to extent, Doc's nephew Sam and the crew's main arms dealer The Butcher), Bats, all of whom are part of a criminal organization who have committed far more severe crimes than Baby's father can ever dream of committing, especially organization. Bats (a is a mass-murdering trigger-happy psychopath who enjoys committing crimes both major and minor just for the hell of it and is implied to have killed a gas station attendant just so he wouldn't have to pay for the stuff he ordered, even nearly killing Debora for the same reason at the diner she works at had commits severe crimes. Baby not stopped him), and force Baby is forced to be the wheelman for their crimes as a way to pay off a debt he owes to them. However, they debt. Despite their villainous nature, the characters are all very charismatic [[EvilIsCool charismatic]] and entertaining [[LoveToHate entertaining]] to watch, even carrying an AffablyEvil (even Griff and, to an extent, Bats) and EvilIsCool vibe. This is especially true for with Doc, Buddy Buddy, and Darling, who are Darling [[AffablyEvil being the nicest to Baby (especially the latter two). Besides, people in the audience are more likely to know an abusive Baby]]. The same cannot be said for Baby's abusive, alcoholic asshole than birth father, who gives Baby tinnitus and causes a group of armed robbers, let alone a murderous psychopath.car crash.
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* DesignatedHero: For some people, Baby comes off as this. Make no mistake, Baby was clearly the least evil of Doc's henchmen, but he did steal cars and lead police on reckless chases several times in the film, not to mention he was involved in a criminal conspiracy that resulted in the murder of multiple US Government employees, state level felony murder charges (though mainly out of desperation and even then tried keep the people caught in the crossfire to a minimum), and at least one count of murder directly (though the guy that he killed [[AssholeVictim definitely deserved it]]). It's very questionable if he really deserved [[spoiler:to get parole after only five years served. The end result in the real world would not have been a happy ending with his girlfriend, but the State of Georgia and the United States Department Of Justice fighting over which of them would get to send him to the electric chair. However, this has been millgated by director Edgar Wright saying the ending could be the dream of an about-to-be-executed Baby]].
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: While Baby was clearly the least evil of Doc's henchmen, he did steal cars and lead police on reckless chases several times in the film. It's very questionable if he really deserved [[spoiler:to get parole after only five years served. He was involved in a criminal conspiracy that resulted in the murder of multiple US Government employees, state level felony murder charges (though mainly out of desperation and even then tried keep the people caught in the crossfire to a minimum), and at least one count of murder directly (though the guy that he killed [[AssholeVictim definitely deserved it]]). The end result in the real world would not have been a happy ending with his girlfriend, but the State of Georgia and the United States Department Of Justice fighting over which of them would get to send him to the electric chair. However, this is milgated by director Edgar Wright saying the ending could be the dream of an about-to-be-executed Baby]].
** Additionally, while [[spoiler:Bats certainly deserved to be kebabed by a rebar for all his other deeds, Buddy and Darling, who were friendly to him throughout the film, were deservedly less so. Baby's betrayal of Bats not only led to Bats' dying, but left him, Buddy and Darling without a car as the police close in. Worse, Baby shows no remorse over leaving them out to dry.]]
** Additionally, while [[spoiler:Bats certainly deserved to be kebabed by a rebar for all his other deeds, Buddy and Darling, who were friendly to him throughout the film, were deservedly less so. Baby's betrayal of Bats not only led to Bats' dying, but left him, Buddy and Darling without a car as the police close in. Worse, Baby shows no remorse over leaving them out to dry.]]
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: While Baby was clearly the least evil of Doc's henchmen, he did steal cars and lead police on reckless chases several times in the film. It's very questionable if he really deserved [[spoiler:to get parole after only five years served. He was involved in a criminal conspiracy that resulted in the murder of multiple US Government employees, state level felony murder charges (though mainly out of desperation and even then tried keep the people caught in the crossfire to a minimum), and at least one count of murder directly (though the guy that he killed [[AssholeVictim definitely deserved it]]). The end result in the real world would not have been a happy ending with his girlfriend, but the State of Georgia and the United States Department Of Justice deciding which of them would get to apply the death penalty. However, this is milgated by director Edgar Wright saying the ending could be the dream of an about-to-be-executed Baby]]
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: While Baby was clearly the least evil of Doc's henchmen, he did steal cars and lead police on reckless chases several times in the film. It's very questionable if he really deserved [[spoiler:to get parole after only five years served. He was involved in a criminal conspiracy that resulted in the murder of multiple US Government employees, state level felony murder charges (though mainly out of desperation and even then tried keep the people caught in the crossfire to a minimum), and at least one count of murder directly (though the guy that he killed [[AssholeVictim definitely deserved it]]). The end result in the real world would not have been a happy ending with his girlfriend, but the State of Georgia and the United States Department Of Justice deciding fighting over which of them would get to apply send him to the death penalty. electric chair. However, this is milgated by director Edgar Wright saying the ending could be the dream of an about-to-be-executed Baby]]Baby]].
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: While Baby was clearly the least evil of Doc's henchmen, he did steal cars and lead police on reckless chases before ever being recruited by Doc. It's very questionable if he really deserved [[spoiler:to get parole after only five years served. He was involved in a criminal conspiracy that resulted in the murder of multiple US Government employees, state level felony murder charges, at least one count of murder directly. The end result in the real world would not have been a happy ending with his girlfriend, but the State of Georgia and the United States Department Of Justice deciding which of them would get to apply the death penalty.]]
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: While Baby was clearly the least evil of Doc's henchmen, he did steal cars and lead police on reckless chases before ever being recruited by Doc.several times in the film. It's very questionable if he really deserved [[spoiler:to get parole after only five years served. He was involved in a criminal conspiracy that resulted in the murder of multiple US Government employees, state level felony murder charges, charges (though mainly out of desperation and even then tried keep the people caught in the crossfire to a minimum), and at least one count of murder directly.directly (though the guy that he killed [[AssholeVictim definitely deserved it]]). The end result in the real world would not have been a happy ending with his girlfriend, but the State of Georgia and the United States Department Of Justice deciding which of them would get to apply the death penalty.]] However, this is milgated by director Edgar Wright saying the ending could be the dream of an about-to-be-executed Baby]]
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* CompleteMonster: [[AxCrazy Bats]], real name Leon Jefferson III, is a [[PsychoPartyMember member of Doc's robbery crew]] and an aggressive thug with a firm belief that MurderIsTheBestSolution. Bats guns down or tries to gun down anyone who does--or doesn't--get in the way of his heists, from security guards to normal people who try to fight back, and in one case triggers a massacre against a friendly ArmsDealer and all of his men. When it's revealed the arms dealer and his men were undercover cops on Bats's own side, Bats lies and claims they shot first. Even willing to extend his murderous actions against people outside his job, Bats is heavily indicated to have murdered a gas store attendant because he didn't want to pay; nearly kills Baby's girlfriend, Debora, for the same reason at a diner had Baby not stop him; and even [[KickTheDog beats up Baby's handicapped foster father just to mock the kid]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[AxCrazy Bats]], real name Leon Jefferson III, is a [[PsychoPartyMember member of Doc's robbery crew]] and an aggressive thug with a firm belief that MurderIsTheBestSolution. Bats guns down or tries to gun down anyone who does--or doesn't--get in the way of his heists, from security guards to normal people who try to fight back, and in one case triggers a massacre against a friendly ArmsDealer and all of his men. When it's revealed the arms dealer and his men were undercover cops on Bats's own side, Bats lies and claims they shot first. Even willing to extend his murderous actions against people outside his job, Bats is heavily indicated to have murdered a gas store attendant because he didn't want to pay; pay for the stuff he ordered, even nearly kills killing Baby's girlfriend, Debora, for the same reason at a the diner she works at had Baby not stop stopped him; and even [[KickTheDog beats up Baby's handicapped foster father just to mock the kid]].
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: The most hated character from the film is Baby's birth father, who is an abusive unloving alcoholic bastard who hits his wife and yells at Baby whenever he gets the chance just cause he can. [[AssholeVictim He also causes the car crash that got him and his wife killed and gave Baby his tinnitus]]. The villains of the film (both major and minor) are Doc, Griff, Buddy, Darling, Eddie No-Nose, JD, and Bats (and to extent, Doc's nephew Sam and the crew's main arms dealer The Butcher), all of whom are part of a criminal organization who have committed far more severe crimes than Baby's father can ever dream of committing, especially Bats (a mass-murdering trigger-happy psychopath who enjoys committing crimes both major and minor just for the hell of it and is implied to kill someone at a gas station just so he won't have to pay for gum, even threatening to kill Debora just so he won't have to pay for the stuff he ordered at the diner she works at), and force Baby to be the wheelman for their crimes as a way to pay off a debt he owes to them. However, they are all very charismatic and entertaining to watch, even carrying an AffablyEvil (even Griff and, to an extent, Bats) and EvilIsCool vibe. This is especially true for Doc, Buddy and Darling, who are the nicest to Baby (especially the latter two). Besides, people in the audience are more likely to know an abusive alcoholic asshole than a group of armed robbers, let alone a murderous psychopath.
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: The most hated character from the film is Baby's birth father, who is an abusive unloving alcoholic bastard who hits his wife and yells at Baby whenever he gets the chance just cause he can. [[AssholeVictim He also causes the car crash that got him and his wife killed and gave Baby his tinnitus]]. The villains of the film (both major and minor) are Doc, Griff, Buddy, Darling, Eddie No-Nose, JD, and Bats (and to extent, Doc's nephew Sam and the crew's main arms dealer The Butcher), all of whom are part of a criminal organization who have committed far more severe crimes than Baby's father can ever dream of committing, especially Bats (a mass-murdering trigger-happy psychopath who enjoys committing crimes both major and minor just for the hell of it and is implied to kill someone at have killed a gas station attendant just so he won't have to pay for gum, even threatening to kill Debora just so he won't wouldn't have to pay for the stuff he ordered ordered, even nearly killing Debora for the same reason at the diner she works at), at had Baby not stopped him), and force Baby to be the wheelman for their crimes as a way to pay off a debt he owes to them. However, they are all very charismatic and entertaining to watch, even carrying an AffablyEvil (even Griff and, to an extent, Bats) and EvilIsCool vibe. This is especially true for Doc, Buddy and Darling, who are the nicest to Baby (especially the latter two). Besides, people in the audience are more likely to know an abusive alcoholic asshole than a group of armed robbers, let alone a murderous psychopath.
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* CompleteMonster: [[AxCrazy Bats]], real name Leon Jefferson III, is a [[PsychoPartyMember member of Doc's robbery crew]] and an aggressive thug with a firm belief that MurderIsTheBestSolution. Bats guns down or tries to gun down anyone who does--or doesn't--get in the way of his heists, from security guards to normal people who try to fight back, and in one case triggers a massacre against a friendly ArmsDealer and all of his men. When it's revealed the arms dealer and his men were undercover cops on Bats's own side, Bats lies and claims they shot first. Even willing to extend his murderous actions against people outside his job, Bats is heavily indicated to have murdered a gas store attendant because he didn't want to pay; nearly kills Baby's girlfriend, Debora, for the same reason at a diner; and even [[KickTheDog beats up Baby's handicapped foster father just to mock the kid]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[AxCrazy Bats]], real name Leon Jefferson III, is a [[PsychoPartyMember member of Doc's robbery crew]] and an aggressive thug with a firm belief that MurderIsTheBestSolution. Bats guns down or tries to gun down anyone who does--or doesn't--get in the way of his heists, from security guards to normal people who try to fight back, and in one case triggers a massacre against a friendly ArmsDealer and all of his men. When it's revealed the arms dealer and his men were undercover cops on Bats's own side, Bats lies and claims they shot first. Even willing to extend his murderous actions against people outside his job, Bats is heavily indicated to have murdered a gas store attendant because he didn't want to pay; nearly kills Baby's girlfriend, Debora, for the same reason at a diner; diner had Baby not stop him; and even [[KickTheDog beats up Baby's handicapped foster father just to mock the kid]].
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: The most hated character from the film is Baby's birth father, who is an abusive unloving alcoholic bastard who hits his wife and yells at Baby whenever he gets the chance just cause he can. [[AssholeVictim He also causes the car crash that got him and his wife killed and gave Baby his tinnitus]]. The villains of the film (both major and minor) are Doc, Griff, Buddy, Darling, Eddie No-Nose, JD, and Bats (and to extent, Doc's nephew Sam and the crew's main arms dealer The Butcher), all of whom are part of a criminal organization who have committed far more severe crimes than Baby's father can ever dream of committing, especially Bats (a mass-murdering trigger-happy psychopath who enjoys committing crimes both major and minor just for the hell of it and is implied to kill someone at a gas station just so he won't have to pay for gum, even threatening to kill Baby's girlfriend, Debora, just so he won't have to pay her at the diner she works at), and force Baby to be the wheelman for their crimes as a way to pay off a debt he owes to them. However, they are all very charismatic and entertaining to watch, even carrying an AffablyEvil (even Griff and, to an extent, Bats) and EvilIsCool vibe. This is especially true for Doc, Buddy and Darling, who are the nicest to Baby (especially the latter two). Besides, people in the audience are more likely to know an abusive alcoholic asshole than a group of armed robbers, let alone a murderous psychopath.
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: The most hated character from the film is Baby's birth father, who is an abusive unloving alcoholic bastard who hits his wife and yells at Baby whenever he gets the chance just cause he can. [[AssholeVictim He also causes the car crash that got him and his wife killed and gave Baby his tinnitus]]. The villains of the film (both major and minor) are Doc, Griff, Buddy, Darling, Eddie No-Nose, JD, and Bats (and to extent, Doc's nephew Sam and the crew's main arms dealer The Butcher), all of whom are part of a criminal organization who have committed far more severe crimes than Baby's father can ever dream of committing, especially Bats (a mass-murdering trigger-happy psychopath who enjoys committing crimes both major and minor just for the hell of it and is implied to kill someone at a gas station just so he won't have to pay for gum, even threatening to kill Baby's girlfriend, Debora, Debora just so he won't have to pay her for the stuff he ordered at the diner she works at), and force Baby to be the wheelman for their crimes as a way to pay off a debt he owes to them. However, they are all very charismatic and entertaining to watch, even carrying an AffablyEvil (even Griff and, to an extent, Bats) and EvilIsCool vibe. This is especially true for Doc, Buddy and Darling, who are the nicest to Baby (especially the latter two). Besides, people in the audience are more likely to know an abusive alcoholic asshole than a group of armed robbers, let alone a murderous psychopath.
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: The most hated character from the film is Baby's birth father, who is an abusive unloving alcoholic bastard who hits his wife and yells at Baby whenever he gets the chance just cause he can. [[AssholeVictim He also causes the car crash that got him and his wife killed and gave Baby his tinnitus]]. The worst person in the film is Bats, an AxCrazy criminal who enjoys committing crimes for the hell of it, but he is at least charismatic and entertaining to watch. The same applies to Doc and the rest of the crew (Griff, Buddy, Darling, Eddie No-Nose, JD, and to some extent Doc's nephew Sam and The Butcher), who are at least charismatic, carry an AffablyEvil (even Griff and, to an extent, Bats) and EvilIsCool vibe, and, again, entertaining to watch. This is especially true for Doc, Buddy and Darling, who are the nicest to Baby (especially the latter two). Besides, people in the audience are more likely to know an abusive alcoholic asshole like Baby's father than a group of armed robbers like Doc and the rest of the crew, let alone a murderous psychopath like Bats.
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: The most hated character from the film is Baby's birth father, who is an abusive unloving alcoholic bastard who hits his wife and yells at Baby whenever he gets the chance just cause he can. [[AssholeVictim He also causes the car crash that got him and his wife killed and gave Baby his tinnitus]]. The worst person in villains of the film is Bats, an AxCrazy criminal who enjoys committing crimes for the hell of it, but he is at least charismatic (both major and entertaining to watch. The same applies to Doc and the rest of the crew (Griff, minor) are Doc, Griff, Buddy, Darling, Eddie No-Nose, JD, and Bats (and to some extent extent, Doc's nephew Sam and the crew's main arms dealer The Butcher), all of whom are part of a criminal organization who have committed far more severe crimes than Baby's father can ever dream of committing, especially Bats (a mass-murdering trigger-happy psychopath who enjoys committing crimes both major and minor just for the hell of it and is implied to kill someone at a gas station just so he won't have to pay for gum, even threatening to kill Baby's girlfriend, Debora, just so he won't have to pay her at the diner she works at), and force Baby to be the wheelman for their crimes as a way to pay off a debt he owes to them. However, they are at least charismatic, carry all very charismatic and entertaining to watch, even carrying an AffablyEvil (even Griff and, to an extent, Bats) and EvilIsCool vibe, and, again, entertaining to watch.vibe. This is especially true for Doc, Buddy and Darling, who are the nicest to Baby (especially the latter two). Besides, people in the audience are more likely to know an abusive alcoholic asshole like Baby's father than a group of armed robbers like Doc and the rest of the crew, robbers, let alone a murderous psychopath like Bats.psychopath.
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: The most hated character from the film is Baby's birth father, who is an abusive unloving alcoholic bastard who hits his wife and yells at Baby whenever he gets the chance. He also causes the car crash that got him and his wife killed and gave Baby his tinnitus. The worst person in the film is Bats, an AxCrazy criminal who enjoys committing crimes for the hell of it, but he is at least charismatic and entertaining to watch. The same applies to Doc and the rest of the crew (Griff, Buddy, Darling, Eddie No-Nose, JD, and to some extent Doc's nephew Sam and The Butcher), who are at least charismatic, carry an AffablyEvil (even Griff and, to an extent, Bats) and EvilIsCool vibe, and, again, entertaining to watch. This is especially Doc, Buddy and Darling, who are the nicest to Baby (especially the latter two). Besides, people in the audience are more likely to know an abusive alcoholic asshole like Baby's father than a murderous psychopath like Bats or a group of armed robbers like Doc and the rest of the crew.
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: The most hated character from the film is Baby's birth father, who is an abusive unloving alcoholic bastard who hits his wife and yells at Baby whenever he gets the chance. chance just cause he can. [[AssholeVictim He also causes the car crash that got him and his wife killed and gave Baby his tinnitus.tinnitus]]. The worst person in the film is Bats, an AxCrazy criminal who enjoys committing crimes for the hell of it, but he is at least charismatic and entertaining to watch. The same applies to Doc and the rest of the crew (Griff, Buddy, Darling, Eddie No-Nose, JD, and to some extent Doc's nephew Sam and The Butcher), who are at least charismatic, carry an AffablyEvil (even Griff and, to an extent, Bats) and EvilIsCool vibe, and, again, entertaining to watch. This is especially true for Doc, Buddy and Darling, who are the nicest to Baby (especially the latter two). Besides, people in the audience are more likely to know an abusive alcoholic asshole like Baby's father than a murderous psychopath like Bats or a group of armed robbers like Doc and the rest of the crew.crew, let alone a murderous psychopath like Bats.
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: The most hated character from the film is Baby's birth father, who is an abusive unloving alcoholic bastard who hits his wife and yells at Baby whenever he gets the chance. He also causes the car crash that got him and his wife killed and gave Baby his tinnitus. The worst person in the film is Bats, an AxCrazy criminal who enjoys committing crimes for the hell of it, but he is at least charismatic and entertaining to watch. The same applies to Doc and the rest of the crew (Griff, Buddy, Darling, Eddie No-Nose, JD and The Butcher), who are at least charismatic, AffablyEvil (even Griff and, to an extent, Bats) and, again, entertaining to watch. This is especially Doc, Buddy and Darling, who are the nicest to Baby (especially the latter two). Besides, people in the audience are more likely to know an abusive alcoholic like Baby's father than a murderous pyschopath like Bats or a group of armed robbers like Doc and the rest of the crew.
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: The most hated character from the film is Baby's birth father, who is an abusive unloving alcoholic bastard who hits his wife and yells at Baby whenever he gets the chance. He also causes the car crash that got him and his wife killed and gave Baby his tinnitus. The worst person in the film is Bats, an AxCrazy criminal who enjoys committing crimes for the hell of it, but he is at least charismatic and entertaining to watch. The same applies to Doc and the rest of the crew (Griff, Buddy, Darling, Eddie No-Nose, JD JD, and to some extent Doc's nephew Sam and The Butcher), who are at least charismatic, carry an AffablyEvil (even Griff and, to an extent, Bats) and EvilIsCool vibe, and, again, entertaining to watch. This is especially Doc, Buddy and Darling, who are the nicest to Baby (especially the latter two). Besides, people in the audience are more likely to know an abusive alcoholic asshole like Baby's father than a murderous pyschopath psychopath like Bats or a group of armed robbers like Doc and the rest of the crew.
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** Buddy and Darling are the nicest to Baby in the whole film except Deborah and his actual (foster) dad. [[spoiler:Then while Bats murders a guy over gum, they discuss killing Bats, like that one guy who looked at Darling funny.]]
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: The most hated character from the film is Baby's birth father, who is an abusive unloving alcoholic bastard who hits his wife and yells at Baby whenever he gets the chance. He also causes the car crash that killed him and his wife and gave Baby his tinnitus. The worst person in the film is Bats, an AxCrazy criminal who enjoys committing crimes for the hell of it, but he is at least charismatic and entertaining to watch. The same applies to Doc and the rest of the crew, especially Buddy and Darling, who are nothing but nice to Baby. Besides, people in the audience are more likely to know an abusive alcoholic like Baby's father than a murderous murder like Bats or a group of armed robbers like Doc and the rest of the crew.
* LoveToHate: Bats is without a doubt the worst person in the film, being an AxCrazy career criminal who loves to indulge in crimes both major and minor. But damn if he isn't an entertaining bad guy, with his hilarious and highly dangerous nature combined with Creator/JamieFoxx's excellent portrayal causing many to agree that he stole the show.
* LoveToHate: Bats is without a doubt the worst person in the film, being an AxCrazy career criminal who loves to indulge in crimes both major and minor. But damn if he isn't an entertaining bad guy, with his hilarious and highly dangerous nature combined with Creator/JamieFoxx's excellent portrayal causing many to agree that he stole the show.
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: The most hated character from the film is Baby's birth father, who is an abusive unloving alcoholic bastard who hits his wife and yells at Baby whenever he gets the chance. He also causes the car crash that killed got him and his wife killed and gave Baby his tinnitus. The worst person in the film is Bats, an AxCrazy criminal who enjoys committing crimes for the hell of it, but he is at least charismatic and entertaining to watch. The same applies to Doc and the rest of the crew, crew (Griff, Buddy, Darling, Eddie No-Nose, JD and The Butcher), who are at least charismatic, AffablyEvil (even Griff and, to an extent, Bats) and, again, entertaining to watch. This is especially Doc, Buddy and Darling, who are nothing but nice the nicest to Baby. Baby (especially the latter two). Besides, people in the audience are more likely to know an abusive alcoholic like Baby's father than a murderous murder pyschopath like Bats or a group of armed robbers like Doc and the rest of the crew.
* LoveToHate: Bats is without a doubt the worst person in the film, being an AxCrazy career criminal who loves to indulge in crimes both major andminor.minor just for the hell of it. But damn if he isn't an entertaining bad guy, with his hilarious and highly dangerous nature combined with Creator/JamieFoxx's excellent portrayal causing many to agree that he stole the show.
* LoveToHate: Bats is without a doubt the worst person in the film, being an AxCrazy career criminal who loves to indulge in crimes both major and
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* HarsherInHindsight: Doc's whole relationship with Baby grew a rather uncomfortable subtext after allegations of Creator/KevinSpacey sexually assaulting and exploiting young men came out only a couple weeks after the DVD release, which makes certain lines particularly wince-inducing, such as Baby growling "Not after what you did to me!" to Doc, Doc saying "That's my baby," and Doc's opening line explaining Baby's driving ability by saying that he didn't stop him from stealing his Mercedes because he [[AccidentalInnuendo "was just blinded by the balls on that kid"]]. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2R9n3q6KuI&t=1m13s Lampooned on]] ''Series/RealTimeWithBillMaher'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOnQocd799Y&t=3m5s and on]] ''WebVideo/CinemaSins'', and made all the worse by [[https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/06/9875587/ansel-elgort-denies-sexually-assaulting-teenage-girl similar]] [[https://people.com/movies/jamie-foxx-denies-sexual-assault-allegations-2002/ allegations]] leveled at Creator/AnselElgort and Creator/JamieFoxx.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Doc's whole relationship with Baby grew a rather uncomfortable subtext after allegations of Creator/KevinSpacey sexually assaulting and exploiting young men came out only a couple few weeks after the DVD home media release, which makes certain lines particularly wince-inducing, such as Baby growling "Not after what you did to me!" to Doc, Doc saying "That's my baby," and Doc's opening line explaining Baby's driving ability by saying that he didn't stop him from stealing his Mercedes because he [[AccidentalInnuendo "was just blinded by the balls on that kid"]]. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2R9n3q6KuI&t=1m13s Lampooned on]] ''Series/RealTimeWithBillMaher'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOnQocd799Y&t=3m5s and on]] ''WebVideo/CinemaSins'', and made all the worse by [[https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/06/9875587/ansel-elgort-denies-sexually-assaulting-teenage-girl similar]] [[https://people.com/movies/jamie-foxx-denies-sexual-assault-allegations-2002/ allegations]] leveled at Creator/AnselElgort and Creator/JamieFoxx.
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: The most hated character from the film is Baby's birth father, who is an abusive unloving alcoholic bastard who hits his wife and yells at Baby whenever he gets the chance. He also causes the car crash that killed him and his wife and gave Baby his tinnitus. The worst person in the film is Bats, an AxCrazy criminal who enjoys committing crimes for the hell of it, but he is at least charismatic and entertaining to watch. The same applies to Doc and the rest of the crew, especially Buddy and Darling, who are nothing but nice to Baby. Besides, people in the audience are more likely to know an abusive alcoholic like Baby's father than a murderous murder like Bats or a group of armed robbers like Doc and the rest of the crew.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Doc's whole relationship with Baby becomes rather uncomfortable after the allegations of Creator/KevinSpacey sexually assaulting and exploiting young men came out only a couple weeks after the DVD release, which makes lines such as Baby growling "Not after what you did to me!" to Doc, Doc saying "That's my baby." and Doc's opening line explaining Baby's driving ability by saying that he didn't stop him from stealing his Mercedes because he [[AccidentalInnuendo "was just blinded by the balls on that kid"]] can be particularly wince-inducing. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2R9n3q6KuI&t=1m13s Lampooned on]] ''Series/RealTimeWithBillMaher'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOnQocd799Y&t=3m5s and on]] ''WebVideo/CinemaSins''. Made all the worse by [[https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/06/9875587/ansel-elgort-denies-sexually-assaulting-teenage-girl similar]] [[https://people.com/movies/jamie-foxx-denies-sexual-assault-allegations-2002/ allegations]] leveled at Creator/AnselElgort and Creator/JamieFoxx.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Doc's whole relationship with Baby becomes grew a rather uncomfortable subtext after the allegations of Creator/KevinSpacey sexually assaulting and exploiting young men came out only a couple weeks after the DVD release, which makes certain lines particularly wince-inducing, such as Baby growling "Not after what you did to me!" to Doc, Doc saying "That's my baby." baby," and Doc's opening line explaining Baby's driving ability by saying that he didn't stop him from stealing his Mercedes because he [[AccidentalInnuendo "was just blinded by the balls on that kid"]] can be particularly wince-inducing.kid"]]. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2R9n3q6KuI&t=1m13s Lampooned on]] ''Series/RealTimeWithBillMaher'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOnQocd799Y&t=3m5s and on]] ''WebVideo/CinemaSins''. Made ''WebVideo/CinemaSins'', and made all the worse by [[https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/06/9875587/ansel-elgort-denies-sexually-assaulting-teenage-girl similar]] [[https://people.com/movies/jamie-foxx-denies-sexual-assault-allegations-2002/ allegations]] leveled at Creator/AnselElgort and Creator/JamieFoxx.
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* DiagnosedByTheAudience: He isn't mentally slow, but Baby's intense focus, sensory issues, and tendency to repeat film dialogue in conversations indicate this trope.
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* DiagnosedByTheAudience: He isn't mentally slow, but Baby's intense focus, sensory issues, and tendency to repeat film dialogue in conversations indicate this trope.have led to it being near-unanimously accepted by viewers that he's autistic, despite it not being explicitly stated in the movie.
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* DiagnosedByTheAudience: He isn't mentally slow, but Baby's intense focus, sensory issues, and tendency to repeat film dialogue in conversations indicate this trope.
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* SugarWiki/DevelopmentHeaven: Creator/EdgarWright wanted all the driving and stunts to be done with practical effects, rather than CGI. Also all the cars' license plates are release dates for his other films.
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Some viewers may find Debora's unwavering devotion to Baby hard to believe, especially when he reveals himself to be involved with dangerous criminals and even [[spoiler:shoots someone right in front of her (notably, she has no strong reaction to this while her co-worker ''freaks the hell out'']]. She's beautiful and intelligent; there's every reason to believe she can find a guy without subjecting herself to that level of danger. And she's only known Baby for what seems like a few days; there's no reason for her to be invested in him enough to risk her own life.
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Some viewers may find Debora's unwavering devotion to Baby hard to believe, especially when he reveals himself to be involved with dangerous criminals and even [[spoiler:shoots someone right in front of her (notably, she has no strong reaction to this while her co-worker ''freaks the hell out'']].out'')]]. She's beautiful and intelligent; there's every reason to believe she can find a guy without subjecting herself to that level of danger. And she's only known Baby for what seems like a few days; there's no reason for her to be invested in him enough to risk her own life.
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* UnfortunateImplications: [[https://www.themarysue.com/dear-edgar-wright-we-need-to-have-a-chat-about-women-baby-driver-spoilers/ Some]] [[https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/baby-drivers-women-problem reviewers]] criticised the film for its handling of its female characters, with Debora being a SatelliteLoveInterest and Darling [[spoiler:being killed at the climax to turn Buddy against Baby]].
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** Let's face it: with the mistakes he made, it's ''no wonder'' why Doc decided to kill JD.
** Also, Darling - unlike Buddy, she didn't bother to take cover when getting into a shoot-out with the cops and [[LeeroyJenkins just started firing at them.]] The fact she got gunned down in seconds is more due to her own stupidity than Baby crashing into the getaway car.
** No matter how pleasant the voices of Doc and his coworkers are, Baby recording their conversations for his mixtapes is incredibly stupid. Even if the crew didn't catch him, the police would have been able to implicate him in their crimes if they got a hold of the tapes.
** It would have been a good idea for Doc to mention to Bats, Darling, Buddy & Baby that the contacts they were going to get their weapons from were corrupt Atlanta police. And avoided, you know, murdering a half-dozen police and setting the scene for the failure of their heist the next day. Or since this movie is set in America, just buying guns legally.
** Doc's supposed to be TheChessmaster when it comes to meticulous planning of his heists but it's clear Bats is too unstable and Doc should've known better to recruit him in the first place. It makes absolutely no sense that Doc would not kill Bats after he robbed the gas station and caused a shootout that killed Doc's police contacts. Continuing with the Post Office robbery after the shootout is also well out of character for Doc.
*** Also, he apparently take the word of Bats as golden for what happened at shoot-out and never attempts to clear things up with the cops, resulting in the whole police department turning on him immediately. Also, he doesn't bother taking any security measures to meet a crew that appears to have just slaughtered his allies for no reason.
** Doc sends Baby into the Post Office to case it prior to the robbery. With a relative of his. Firstly, Doc is the type of guy who wouldn't send the same people in for recon as for the actual robbery, and he wouldn't send in a relative of his. The witness that Baby warned off would have identified both Baby and Doc's young relative, potentially leading police straight to everyone even if they tried leaving straight away.
** Let's be real: the only reason why Baby successfully got away in the opening heist is not because of the convenient red cars he could blend into, but because the police are too stupid to realize that the getaway driver clearly had a plan when he joined two other similarly colored cars just before the helicopter's view of the action is obscured and that they should keep watch on all three cars to make sure the perps didn't escape.
** Doc proves himself to be very good at shooting cops when helping Buddy and Debora to escape. When Buddy comes in, however, he basically let himself be run over him.
** Let's face it: with the mistakes he made, it's ''no wonder'' why Doc decided to kill JD.
** Also, Darling - unlike Buddy, she didn't bother to take cover when getting into a shoot-out with the cops and [[LeeroyJenkins just started firing at them.]] The fact she got gunned down in seconds is more due to her own stupidity than Baby crashing into the getaway car.
** No matter how pleasant the voices of Doc and his coworkers are, Baby recording their conversations for his mixtapes is incredibly stupid. Even if the crew didn't catch him, the police would have been able to implicate him in their crimes if they got a hold of the tapes.
** It would have been a good idea for Doc to mention to Bats, Darling, Buddy & Baby that the contacts they were going to get their weapons from were corrupt Atlanta police. And avoided, you know, murdering a half-dozen police and setting the scene for the failure of their heist the next day. Or since this movie is set in America, just buying guns legally.
** Doc's supposed to be TheChessmaster when it comes to meticulous planning of his heists but it's clear Bats is too unstable and Doc should've known better to recruit him in the first place. It makes absolutely no sense that Doc would not kill Bats after he robbed the gas station and caused a shootout that killed Doc's police contacts. Continuing with the Post Office robbery after the shootout is also well out of character for Doc.
*** Also, he apparently take the word of Bats as golden for what happened at shoot-out and never attempts to clear things up with the cops, resulting in the whole police department turning on him immediately. Also, he doesn't bother taking any security measures to meet a crew that appears to have just slaughtered his allies for no reason.
** Doc sends Baby into the Post Office to case it prior to the robbery. With a relative of his. Firstly, Doc is the type of guy who wouldn't send the same people in for recon as for the actual robbery, and he wouldn't send in a relative of his. The witness that Baby warned off would have identified both Baby and Doc's young relative, potentially leading police straight to everyone even if they tried leaving straight away.
** Let's be real: the only reason why Baby successfully got away in the opening heist is not because of the convenient red cars he could blend into, but because the police are too stupid to realize that the getaway driver clearly had a plan when he joined two other similarly colored cars just before the helicopter's view of the action is obscured and that they should keep watch on all three cars to make sure the perps didn't escape.
** Doc proves himself to be very good at shooting cops when helping Buddy and Debora to escape. When Buddy comes in, however, he basically let himself be run over him.
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** "Soldier Boy", the random gun-packing veteran who just happened to be on the scene of the bank robbery but [[BadassBystander chases and shoots at Eddie, JD, Baby, and Bats]] in his truck. He's far more dangerous to them than any of the cops, and is arguably the biggest threat anyone poses to Baby's driving in the whole movie [[spoiler:next to Buddy.]] Best of all, he survives.
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** "Soldier Boy", Boy," the random gun-packing veteran who just happened to be on the scene of the bank robbery but [[BadassBystander chases and shoots at Eddie, JD, Baby, and Bats]] in his truck. He's far more dangerous to them than any of the cops, and is arguably the biggest threat anyone poses to Baby's driving in the whole movie [[spoiler:next to Buddy.]] Best of all, he survives.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Doc's whole relationship with Baby becomes rather uncomfortable after the allegations of Creator/KevinSpacey sexually assaulting and exploiting young men came out only a couple weeks after the DVD release, which makes lines such as Baby growling "Not after what you did to me!" to Doc, Doc saying "That's my baby." and Doc's opening line explaining Baby's driving ability by saying that he didn't stop him from stealing his Mercedes because he [[AccidentalInnuendo "was just blinded by the balls on that kid"]] can be particularly wince-inducing. [[https://youtu.be/J2R9n3q6KuI?t=1m13s Lampooned on]] ''Series/RealTimeWithBillMaher'' [[https://youtu.be/kOnQocd799Y?t=3m5s and on]] ''WebVideo/CinemaSins''. Made all the worse by [[https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/06/9875587/ansel-elgort-denies-sexually-assaulting-teenage-girl similar]] [[https://people.com/movies/jamie-foxx-denies-sexual-assault-allegations-2002/ allegations]] leveled at Creator/AnselElgort and Creator/JamieFoxx.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Doc's whole relationship with Baby becomes rather uncomfortable after the allegations of Creator/KevinSpacey sexually assaulting and exploiting young men came out only a couple weeks after the DVD release, which makes lines such as Baby growling "Not after what you did to me!" to Doc, Doc saying "That's my baby." and Doc's opening line explaining Baby's driving ability by saying that he didn't stop him from stealing his Mercedes because he [[AccidentalInnuendo "was just blinded by the balls on that kid"]] can be particularly wince-inducing. [[https://youtu.be/J2R9n3q6KuI?t=1m13s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2R9n3q6KuI&t=1m13s Lampooned on]] ''Series/RealTimeWithBillMaher'' [[https://youtu.be/kOnQocd799Y?t=3m5s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOnQocd799Y&t=3m5s and on]] ''WebVideo/CinemaSins''. Made all the worse by [[https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/06/9875587/ansel-elgort-denies-sexually-assaulting-teenage-girl similar]] [[https://people.com/movies/jamie-foxx-denies-sexual-assault-allegations-2002/ allegations]] leveled at Creator/AnselElgort and Creator/JamieFoxx.
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** Bats definitely crossed it when he murders the gas station attendant instead of just buying some cheap gum. [[spoiler: Bats eventually crossed the line with Baby after threatening to shoot him after the Post Office robbery, at which point Baby drives the car, with Bats in the front passenger seat, into some helpfully placed steel rebar in front of their vehicle, killing Bats instantly.]]
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** Doc crosses it [[spoiler: when he forces Baby to keep driving for him after the debt is paid off.]]
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** Bats definitely crossed it when he murders the gas station attendant instead of just buying some cheap gum. [[spoiler: Bats [[spoiler:Bats eventually crossed the line with Baby after threatening to shoot him after the Post Office robbery, at which point Baby drives the car, with Bats in the front passenger seat, into some helpfully placed steel rebar in front of their vehicle, killing Bats instantly.]]
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** Doc crosses it
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Some viewers may find Debora's unwavering devotion to Baby hard to believe, especially when he reveals himself to be involved with dangerous criminals and even [[spoiler: shoots [[spoiler:shoots someone right in front of her (notably, she has no strong reaction to this while her co-worker ''freaks the hell out'']]. She's beautiful and intelligent; there's every reason to believe she can find a guy without subjecting herself to that level of danger. And she's only known Baby for what seems like a few days; there's no reason for her to be invested in him enough to risk her own life.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Doc's whole relationship with Baby becomes rather uncomfortable after the allegations of Creator/KevinSpacey sexually assaulting and exploiting young men came out only a couple weeks after the DVD release, which makes lines such as Baby growling "Not after what you did to me!" to Doc, Doc saying "That's my baby." and Doc's opening line explaining Baby's driving ability by saying that he didn't stop him from stealing his Mercedes because he [[AccidentalInnuendo "was just blinded by the balls on that kid"]] can be particularly wince-inducing. [[https://youtu.be/J2R9n3q6KuI?t=1m13s Lampooned on]] ''Series/RealTimeWithBillMaher'' [[https://youtu.be/kOnQocd799Y?t=3m5s and on]] ''WebVideo/CinemaSins''. Made all the worse by [[https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/06/9875587/ansel-elgort-denies-sexually-assaulting-teenage-girl similar allegations]] leveled at Creator/AnselElgort.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Doc's whole relationship with Baby becomes rather uncomfortable after the allegations of Creator/KevinSpacey sexually assaulting and exploiting young men came out only a couple weeks after the DVD release, which makes lines such as Baby growling "Not after what you did to me!" to Doc, Doc saying "That's my baby." and Doc's opening line explaining Baby's driving ability by saying that he didn't stop him from stealing his Mercedes because he [[AccidentalInnuendo "was just blinded by the balls on that kid"]] can be particularly wince-inducing. [[https://youtu.be/J2R9n3q6KuI?t=1m13s Lampooned on]] ''Series/RealTimeWithBillMaher'' [[https://youtu.be/kOnQocd799Y?t=3m5s and on]] ''WebVideo/CinemaSins''. Made all the worse by [[https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/06/9875587/ansel-elgort-denies-sexually-assaulting-teenage-girl similar similar]] [[https://people.com/movies/jamie-foxx-denies-sexual-assault-allegations-2002/ allegations]] leveled at Creator/AnselElgort.Creator/AnselElgort and Creator/JamieFoxx.
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** Buddy and Darling are the nicest to Baby in the whole film except his actual dad. [[spoiler:Then while Bats murders a guy over gum, they discuss killing Bats, like that one guy who looked at Darling funny.]]
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** Buddy and Darling are the nicest to Baby in the whole film except his actual (foster) dad. [[spoiler:Then while Bats murders a guy over gum, they discuss killing Bats, like that one guy who looked at Darling funny.]]
