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* CatharsisFactor: People who thinks that Oliver treats, or rather used to treat his women like shit will have a fun-field day with this episode as three women who he is/was romantically involved with chew him up for it.
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* CatharsisFactor: CatharsisFactor:
** People who thinks that Oliver treats, or rather used to treat his women like shit will have a fun-field day with this episode as three women who he is/was romantically involved with chew him up for it.
** People who thinks that Oliver treats, or rather used to treat his women like shit will have a fun-field day with this episode as three women who he is/was romantically involved with chew him up for it.
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* BrokenBase: Much like the first time this happened, fans debate heavily on whether Felicity has a right to break up with Oliver over him lying to her, again or if she is being overly [[{{Wangst}} wangsty]], even selfish, about something that isn't her business. (And if fans consider someone's fiancee having a secret child "their business.") The fact that she brings up how a marriage is ''supposed'' to be just adds more fervor to both sides. Another aspect people bring up is that, regardless of whether or not Felicity was right, she could have picked a better time to call him out, as he was [[ManlyTears literally crying]] about saying goodbye to his only son forever, making her come across as believing that [[ItsAllAboutMe only her emotional pain was important]]. Of course on the flipside she did remain reasonable and professional after the initial revelation, helped rescue William rather than focusing on her pain and was incredibly amicable to Samantha considering she was the one who forbade Oliver from telling Felicity the truth in the first place, and then Felicity waited until both Samantha and William were safe before ending things with Oliver, and did so in a very calm, gentle manner. There's also the fact that Felicity spend the the previous episode telling her mother about how people lie for a good reason and spend this episode [[{{Hypocrite}} criticizing Oliver for lying, regardless of his reasons]]. There's also the fans who disliked how much Oliver lied and cut Felicity out of his decisions in Season 3, and felt her reaction was a culmination of that, but her perspective should have been explained more.
** Fans are also split over whether Oliver was right to lie in the first place. On one hand Samantha did forbid him from telling anyone and threatened to stop him from seeing William, if she discovered he'd broken that promise. On the other hand, she'd never have known if Oliver told Felicity, so it really came down to Oliver lying to a woman who'd lied to him for years or to his fiancee/partner. The fact, Oliver's longterm plan seemed to be sneak off to Central City periodically and pose as "Mommy's friend" rather than say contacting a lawyer about his legal rights also looks like he grabbed the IdiotBall. Add in that Oliver actively chose to propose to Felicity while still hiding William's existence, makes him look much worse, as hiding a child from a girlfriend is more understandable than from a fiancee.
** Fans are also split over whether Oliver was right to lie in the first place. On one hand Samantha did forbid him from telling anyone and threatened to stop him from seeing William, if she discovered he'd broken that promise. On the other hand, she'd never have known if Oliver told Felicity, so it really came down to Oliver lying to a woman who'd lied to him for years or to his fiancee/partner. The fact, Oliver's longterm plan seemed to be sneak off to Central City periodically and pose as "Mommy's friend" rather than say contacting a lawyer about his legal rights also looks like he grabbed the IdiotBall. Add in that Oliver actively chose to propose to Felicity while still hiding William's existence, makes him look much worse, as hiding a child from a girlfriend is more understandable than from a fiancee.
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* BrokenBase: BrokenBase:
** Much like the first time this happened, fansdebate heavily on debated whether Felicity has a was right to break up with Oliver over him lying to her, again her again, or if she is was being overly [[{{Wangst}} wangsty]], even selfish, wangsty]] and selfish about something that isn't wasn't her business. (And business (and that's if fans consider considered someone's fiancee having a secret child "their business.") "). The fact that she brings up how a marriage is ''supposed'' to be just adds added more fervor to both sides. Another aspect people bring brought up is was that, regardless of whether or not Felicity was right, she could have picked a better time to call him out, out as he was [[ManlyTears literally crying]] about saying goodbye to his only son forever, making her come across as believing it seem like she believed that [[ItsAllAboutMe only her emotional pain was important]]. Of course course, on the flipside flipside, she did remain reasonable and professional after the initial revelation, helped rescue William rather than focusing focus on her pain and pain, was incredibly amicable to Samantha considering she was the one who forbade Oliver from telling Felicity the truth in the first place, and then Felicity waited until both Samantha and William were safe before ending things with Oliver, and did so in a very calm, gentle manner. There's There was also the fact that Felicity spend the spent the previous episode telling her mother about how that people lie for a good reason and spend reason, but spent this episode [[{{Hypocrite}} criticizing Oliver for lying, lying regardless of his reasons]]. There's There were also the fans who disliked how much Oliver lied and cut Felicity out of his decisions in Season 3, and felt that her reaction was a culmination of that, that but also that her perspective should have been explained more.
** Fansare were also split over whether Oliver was right to lie in the first place. On one hand hand, Samantha did forbid forbade him from telling anyone and threatened to stop him from seeing William, William if she discovered he'd broken that promise. On promise, but on the other hand, she'd never have known if Oliver told Felicity, so it really came down to Oliver lying to a woman who'd lied to him for years or to his fiancee/partner. The fact, fact that Oliver's longterm plan seemed to be to sneak off to Central City periodically and pose as "Mommy's friend" friend", rather than say contacting than, say, contact a lawyer about his legal rights also looks makes it seem like he grabbed the IdiotBall. Add in IdiotBall, and the fact that Oliver actively chose chosing to propose to Felicity while still hiding William's existence, existence makes him look much worse, as hiding a child from a girlfriend is more understandable than from a fiancee.
** Much like the first time this happened, fans
** Fans
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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Considering Vixen's powers are so tricky to portray in live action that she first appeared in animated form, they look pretty darn good here.
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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Considering Vixen's powers are so tricky to portray in live action that she first appeared in animated form, they look pretty darn good here.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Felicity barely spends three episodes in a wheel-chair before she is healed.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Hearing the ''Vixen'' theme again is one thing, but making it segue into the ''Arrow'' theme is what cements her place in the Arrowverse.
