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[[WMG: The Thor clone from ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' will be referenced.]]

*** Jossed in that Thanos doesn't invade Asgard, [[spoiler:but his ship shows up in the Mid-Credits scene as a teaser for ''Infinity War''.]]

*** [[spoiler:Jossed: Thor survives]].

** Theory Jossed. Thor doesn't die.

** [[spoiler:Jossed: Surtur is an antagonist but not the main one: that's Hela]].

* Confirmed for Hela. Whether or not she's Loki's daughter has yet to be seen. [[spoiler: jossed on her being Loki's daughter, she's Thor and Loki's long lost sister, making her a CompositeCharacter with Angela.]]

** [[spoiler: Fenris and Hela appear, but neither are the children of Loki]].

** Jossed:[[spoiler: Surtur is unleashed on Asgard in the climax by Thor and Loki to kill Hela]].

* Jossed, we don't learn anything about Thanos's backstory. [[spoiler:His ship does show up during the Mid-Credits scene, though.]]

* [[spoiler: Confirmed. Not a DyingMomentOfAwesome, but Odin dies of old age at the beginning of the film, and Thor is made King at the end.]]

* [[spoiler:Jossed: He does survive, but he isn't blind]].

* [[spoiler: Confirmed, sort of? Hela is apparently taking Angela's place as the long-lost sister of Thor.]]

* The {{Stinger}} of ''Film/DoctorStrange2016'' reveals that [[spoiler:Thor is knowingly working with Loki in order to find Odin. Whether or not this means he's pulling a HeelFaceTurn or seeking out Odin for his own motives has yet to be seen, though he is seen fighting alongside Thor in the second trailer.]]
** [[spoiler: Confirmed? He at least seems to be on good terms with Thor again]].

* [[spoiler:Confirmed, in the end he sits on the throne of the spaceship housing the evacuated population of Asgard being called their King.]]

Not only would it further discredit Odin's opinion of her, but [[spoiler:she IS the hammer's current holder in the comics.]]

It's revealed in ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' that [[spoiler: Tony and Pepper broke up off-screen]], so it's not like they can't do it.

* Doctor Strange [[spoiler: has been confirmed to appear, though there's no word on Scarlet Witch or Black Panther.]]

[[spoiler:In the vision Scarlet Witch shows him in ''Age Of Ultron'', Heimdall mentions Thor was the one who killed them all]].
* [[spoiler:Actually confirmed as Thor and Loki willingly unleash Surtur to cause Ragnarok to kill Hela]].

* Considering that [[spoiler: Hela is actually Thor's long-lost sister instead of Loki's daughter, yep, no romance whatsoever.]]

[[spoiler: Since it was revealed that Leah grew up to become Hela, then she'll appear in that sense. Whether or not we actually see her as Leah (when she was younger) remains to be seen. It could give her a good backstory, with some adjustments, of course.]]

* [[spoiler:Hela is Odin's daughter, Fenrir was her pet and Jormungandr doesn't appear at all.]]

Dead characters like [[spoiler:Frigga and Quicksilver]] would make cameo appearances there.

* [[spoiler:Jossed: He is happy to see Thor and Loki, gives them a heartfelt talk and then he dies of old age]].

* [[spoiler:Confirmed, although it happens at the beginning of ''Infinity War''. The first Stinger of ''Ragnarok'' only shows Thanos's ship approaching the Statesman.]]

** [[spoiler: It's complicated. Loki works to get himself into the Grandmaster's good graces, only for Thor's escape to cause him to lose favour with the Grandmaster, leading him to help Thor...only he attempts to betray Thor in order to get back into the Grandmaster's favour. Thor, however, sees the betrayal coming a mile away and one-ups him. In the end, Loki leaves to help Thor.]]

* [[spoiler: The status of the weapon's vault is uncertain, since Surtur destroyed Asgard. Loki managed to take the Tesseract, and Hela proclaimed that most of the treasures in the vault were fake anyway...]]

[[spoiler:Jossed: The Soul Stone does not appear although Heimdall may still have it]].
** Fully Jossed. The Stone is on Vormir.

In ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'', it's revealed that [[spoiler: The other Avengers haven't seen or heard from Thor since the events of ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'', even though he promised to come back with information on the Infinity Stones. That's an awfully long time to be gone]]. Loki or some other force could be keeping him on Asgard so he can't [[spoiler: alert the others about what's coming.]]
* Confirmed, but not in the way you think. [[spoiler: He's let himself get captured by Surtur in order to get close enough to kill him]].

* Confirmed. [[spoiler: She's Thor and Loki's long-lost sister.]]

* The potential is even higher now that Feige has confirmed [[spoiler: Doctor Strange]] has a cameo in the movie. C'mon Marvel, this is low hanging fruit!

* [[spoiler: He is shown wielding [[http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/02/11/is-thor-wielding-jarnbjorn-in-the-avengers-infinity-war-teaser-/ what appears to be an ax]] in the concept art for Avengers: Infinity War.]]

* [[spoiler: Jossed, though the film does play around with this. Thor states that he understands what kind of person Loki is, and even calls him out on his inability to change when Loki attempts to betray him. Loki then proves him wrong by returning to help with the evacuation of Asgard, and he and Thor appear to be on good terms by the end.]]

* Jossed. [[spoiler: Sif doesn't appear in the film.]]

During [[spoiler:the {{Stinger}} of ''Film/DoctorStrange2016'', it's revealed that Thor is knowingly working with Loki in order to find Odin, who has somehow disappeared.]] While it's possible that he found out about his brother's survival after returning to Asgard, what if he knew before that? Like, when he was speaking to "Odin" at the end of the last film? It was revealed in that same film that he could now see through Loki's illusions, so maybe he saw through that one, but didn't say anything for one reason or another.

* [[spoiler: Confirmed-ish? Thor and the ship full of Asgardian refugees are on their way to earth when the film ends]].

* [[spoiler: Skurge does indeed fight Hela's army, as a reference to the comics scene. The scene occurs on the rainbow bridge of Bifrost, but the whole thing (including Skurge gunning down Hela's mooks with [[GunsAkimbo dual-wielded M16s]]) is straight out of his last stand at Gjallerbru in the comics.]]

Thor and friends will defeat Hela and any other villains, and return to Asgard triumphantly, only to find Thanos having arrived at Asgard, trashing the place and killing off Thor's supporting cast. Thor, Hulk, [[spoiler:and maybe Dr. Strange if he's still there]] will flee to earth to warn everyone, leading into Infinity War.
* Jossed. [[spoiler:Thor and Loki [[GodzillaThreshold deliberately cause Ragnarok]], because it's the only way to defeat Hela.]]

Given his current quest to [[spoiler: cut down on the number of sorcerers in the world and restore balance to the magical forces of the universe]] it's reasonable to assume Mordo would be keeping an eye on two highly-powerful magical beings wandering around New York, especially when a former close friend is helping said magical beings.

* [[spoiler:Confirmed]].

** Hela was imprisoned by [[spoiler:Odin's life force and is freed when he dies.]]
* Jossed: [[spoiler:Thor and Loki willingly unleash Surtur on Asgard to defeat Hela in the climax]].

As mentioned, [[spoiler: Thor appears to be wielding an axe in the concept art for ''Infinity War'']], despite the fact that he's shown using ''swords'' in most of the promotional art for ''Ragnarok'', and actually has a club in the trailer. Additionally, the Executioner is shown wielding two machine guns in the trailer. [[spoiler: It is possible that near the end of the movie, the Executioner bequeaths his axe to Thor just before going off to make a HeroicSacrifice.]]

* Confirmed. We see it briefly in the weapons vault, but it isn't used against Hela, [[spoiler: and it's likely been destroyed along with the rest of Asgard. Unless Loki swiped it on his way out, along with the Tesseract that he's confirmed to have taken.]]

* [[spoiler:Jossed: She's his and Thor's sister]].

The film will end with Thor battle against Hela and she will either killed or disappear (Depending on if Hela will appear for IW) but Thor decides to stay at Asgard to make sure if all Asgardians are NOT left behind and he closes his eye as Asgard being completely DESTORYED for good. It will explain of how he meet the [[spoiler:Guardians of the Galaxy]] and Joe Russo stated that Thor's storyline picks up after the events of Thor: Ragnarok, which finds him in a "very profound... very interesting place" and gives him "a real emotional motivation after that." could Asgard being destroyed is his real emotional motivation? Maybe...
* [[spoiler:Semi-confirmed: Asgard gets obliterated by Surtur in the climax, but everyone except Hela is safe on the refugee ship when the place goes supernova, including Thor, so his meeting with the Guardians is coming at some later point.]].

* Jossed. [[spoiler: It's actually Hela who's the CompositeCharacter with Angela.]]

It's interesting that Kevin Feige called ''Thor: Ragnarok'' "''Winter Soldier'' of ''Thor'' Movies" since the film includes a plot twist that reveals [[spoiler:Hydra infiltrated Shield long time ago]]. So the question is what will be the film's biggest plot twist? Marvel loves those tropes!
* [[spoiler:Hela is Thor's sister. Don't know if that's the biggest twist in the MCU though. Though Asgard getting destroyed does change the MCU in a big way, like the Hydra reveal did]].

** Jossed. [[spoiler:Death is not in the film at all. Hela's eventual fate is left entirely ambiguous.]]

As Odin said, "Asgard isn't a place, it's a people". Perhaps Hela, who is stated to "get stronger the longer she is in Asgard" is actually drawing power from its people. This would mean that even without [[spoiler:Ragnarok being unleashed the evacuation of the Asgardians]] would have caused a decline in Hela's power.

Why was Hela [[spoiler:hunting the Asgardians?]] Two possible causes. Perhaps she doesn't realize this is the case. It would be hard to tell the two apart (power from realm or its people) if the only Asgardian population concentration is in their home realm and there is no exact way to measure her power. Another explanation is that even [[spoiler:undead she can get power from Asgardians and she can exert greater control over them.]] Matti23

* [[spoiler:Confirmed, Loki is in possession of the Tesseract at the beginning of ''Infinity War''.]]

--> '''Thanos''': The one called Loki has taken [[Film/TheAvengers2012 something of mine]]. Something that he shall now replace.
* [[spoiler:Confirmed for the former in ''Infinity War''. Thanos specifically attacked the ship to obtain the Tesseract.]]

* [[spoiler:The Soul Stone is on Vormir during Endgame,]] but that's well after the events of this film, so maybe that's where it went after this.

* [[spoiler:Jossed. Mjolnir isn't restored until Infinity War, when Thor makes his own replacement, an axe-hammer called Stormbreaker, with a handle given to it by Groot, and then in Endgame, when he travels back in time, and steals the intact Mjolnir from a part Thor during the events of The Dark World.]]

* [[spoiler:Partially confirmed. He gets Stormbreaker in Infinity War, but it has all the same power as Mjolnir, but presumably not the limitation on who can use it]].

Thor [[spoiler: is a king now. He's taken Odin's place]], so he'll need someone to take over his old one.

And it will be an adaptation of the first volume of Aaron's ''Thor: God of Thunder'', told in three time periods concurrently, featuring impetuous young Thor (as he appears in the first movie, noble Avengers-era Thor (as seen in the second movie), and [[spoiler: wiser, one-eyed King]] Thor (as seen at the end of the third movie).

* [[spoiler:Confirmed, Loki is killed by Thanos after he attempts to dagger him before he can leave for Earth to get the other Stones.]]

* [[spoiler:Halfway Jossed. He does give up the Tesseract to save Thor, but is killed by Thanos after trying to fake another betrayal.]]

** [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

* Jossed, [[spoiler:Hulk turns into Bruce again at the beginning of ''Infinity War'', after getting sent to New York, by Heimdall.]]

** Yes, but Thanos has the gauntlet. I was under the impression that some sort of channeling device is required in order to teleport with the Tesseract, not that you could just make it happen with your mind. If anybody who has the Tesseract can do that, then why did Loki even need Selvig to build him anything in ''The Avengers''? Wouldn't he have just grabbed the Tesseract and teleported wherever the hell he wanted instantly? I mean, I guess the portal in New York had to be sustained, so you might need a device, but I don't recall anybody commenting on Loki porting around the globe with it, which he could have easily done if that's how the Tesseract works. Also, couldn't Loki have then used it to [[spoiler: teleport himself and Thor and possibly Heimdall - that's only three people - away while Thanos was busy fighting the Hulk]] in ''Infinity War''? Or at least gone Nightcrawler on their asses?

[[WMG: After Thanos steals [[Comicbook/TheInfinityGauntlet The Infinity Gauntlet,]]]]
Thor will try to summon The Avengers, only to learn that [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar they have split up]], So Thor begins to look for [[Film/GuardiansoftheGalaxy some ]] [[Film/DoctorStrange2016 alternative]], [[Film/CaptainMarvel2019 Backup]] in order to prevent Thanos from starting the Apocalypse.

Upon arriving at Earth, he'll find out about the Accords, the disbandment of the Avengers and he'll not take it very lightly. And like Comicbook/{{Nova}}, he'll call out on one of the members (maybe Tony) by asking "What have you '''done'''?"

* Hela encountering Thanos. Bonus points if it features {{CallBack}}s and {{ContinuityNod}}s to TheStinger from Film/{{TheAvengers|2012}}. Namely:

** Thanos is seating in his throne, and does [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy yet another]] ChairReveal to show the Infinity Gauntlet.

* The scene from ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' of Thor landing on [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy the Milano]].

* Wait... so you're saying that Thanos needs [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy that guy's eye]]?

It will be the last Infinity Stone introduced in the lead up to ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' (The Time Stone being introduced in ''Film/DoctorStrange2016'') and will be in the possession of Hela who uses it to convey the souls of the dead to Hel. It will be green (to match's Hela's whole green and black aesthetic) and could perhaps be embedded in the hilt of her WeaponOfChoice, her 'Nightsword'. She will use the power of the stone to destroy Mjölnir.

There was a storyline in the comics called ''Comicbook/ContestOfChampions'' in which Grandmaster has a wager with Death for the life of The Collector. They gathered Earth's heroes, split them up into their own teams, and had them fight to see who will win the wager. With Hela possibly taking the place of Death in the MCU and the promise that Thor and Hulk will fight, it's possible their battle will hold some significance between the two.

* TheStinger will feature a cameo of Tony Stark, since ''Film/IronMan2'' ended with a shot of Mjolnir. It also serves as a CallBack from Film/TheIncredibleHulk, as Tony himself appeared in TheStinger.

[[WMG: Gore the Butcher will be the BigBad of the film]]
Given that he is confirmed to appear in the film, it is implied that he will become the main antagonist of the film.

[[WMG: Thor and The Guardians will help Jane]]
Given that both He and The Guardians of the Galaxy are confirmed to appear in the film, they may be going to help her.

* Well the part about Tony having Asgardian armor is out of the question at this point. His presumably self-styled nanotech exosuit in ''Infinity War'' and ''Endgame'' has no Asgardian enhancements and he himself didn't see Thor until his return from Titan in ''Endgame'' and was in no condition or even want to go on any more Avengers pursuits.
** Moreover, given the events relating to Thor's depression and the settling of New Asgard in Norway in ''Endgame'', it seems everyone probably just forgot about Mjolnir, unless they bring it up again in ''Thor: Love and Thunder''. (Although the version of Mjolnir in that movie is also at least rumored to be from an alternate timeline.)

* [[spoiler:Jossed. The Soul Stone is on Vormir.]]

** Definitely jossed for ''Endgame'' as well. The upcoming ''Thor: Love and Thunder'' is your best bet, although seemingly without much Asgardian involvement considering their currently endangered Earth-dwelling refugee status.

* [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

* [[spoiler:Partially confirmed. He gets Stormbreaker in Infinity War, which doesn't have the enchantment and the only thing special for it is summoning the Bifrost and being able to counteract the Infinity Gauntlet]].

* Possibly Jossed. Mjolnir is apparently still broken at the start of Infinity War. Though he could repair it in that film...
* Jossed.

[[WMG:[[ComicBook/AngelaMarvelComics Angela]] will make her MCU debut in this film.]]

* [[spoiler:Jossed, it is not the Soul Stone.]]

Nothing Odin does is without a purpose. So he did send them with some purpose there, and being wise, he didn't fail. His original idea always comes to fruition, regardless of how what happened seems to appear. He seems to have made a mistake, lost his best warriors, but did he? Did he not know that he would lose them, that they pose no harm to Hela? More likely, Odin saw how to wipe them out without ever possibly being considered a killer and did so. You can't change the idea of yourself as a murderous king into a peaceful one by killing off an army of your own people. That would not go unnoticed and now you have more people to kill. Instead, you send them to a lost cause. They die, you mourn, you avenge them by vanquishing the enemy rather than murdering them and voila, you are a marvelous peace bringing ruler. Now you only have some minor painting and redecorating to do, and you're set.