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Examples of Incarnations who theoretically shouldn't exist: ALBW Link(Gramps is heavily implied to be the Hero from ALttP), the Zelda from the first game(AoL Zelda exists alongside her), and WW Link(the Hero of Time was sent to the Child Timeline).

Specifically, their ''blood'' descendants. He very specifically says, "all those who share the blood of the goddess and the spirit of the hero." Not 'or'. 'And'. Now, that could just include them both for brevity's sake, but Link and Zelda have serious chemistry in that game, and Zelda asks Link to stay and build Hyrule with her on the surface, which he visibly assents to. We know that all the Zeldas are in a direct line of blood descent, inheriting the magic/incarnation of Hylia. We also know that, ''Wind Waker'' and beyond excepted, there is a [[JustForPun link]] between a number of Links, if not all of them - and even then, the Hero of Winds is implied to be the ancestor of the Hero of Trains. The Hero of Twilight is explicitly a direct descendant of the Hero of Time, for instance. Additionally, Link has an unusual affinity for magic for an otherwise mundane guy, he often shares a few visual traits with his contemporary Zelda, and in a surprising number of cases, he and Zelda grew up together. It's perfectly reasonable to consider that the Links descend from a cadet branch of the Royal Family; close enough to be perfectly reasonable companions for/close to a Princess from childhood, though not close enough to be a political threat. Add some further intermarriage down the generations on occasions when there's chemistry between the two, and they become closer still: both carry 'the blood of the goddess' and 'the spirit of the hero'.

The first two are obvious: Ku (Sky/Heaven/Void) correlates to ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]]'' and Fu (Wind) to ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker Wind Waker]]''. That leaves Chi (Earth), Sui (Water), and Ka (Fire) between [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'', ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]'', and ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]]''. ''Majora's Mask'' fits neatly with Chi/Earth, due to the underlying 'death' theme it's got going for it. According to Wiki/TheOtherWiki, predatory animals are examples of Ka/Fire, so it's arguable that TP corresponds to fire (as another WMG has pointed out, it's certainly got the [[RealIsBrown color scheme]] for it), leaving [=OoT=] with Sui/Water. That's not exactly the most solid argument, though. [[note]] Or, if we're going by the Links and counting the Hero of Time as one, then SS=Sky, WW=Wind, [=OoT=]/MM=Earth(?), TP=Fire(??), Next console game=Water(???). Whatever. I'm [[FanWank Fan Wanked]] out. Any ideas?[[/note]]

In most of the games (read: MOST), all Links are related or descendants of one another. If the ship indeed did happen, then that would make Link royalty in some games, which he never is, plus it'd also imply [[IncestIsRelative other things]]. (Keep in mind I'm not ship bashing, I actually like the idea of it in WW.)

Why else should Hyrule be still ''that'' underpopulated after 100 years? I mean, approximately 5 people per location is not exactly much...

* It's very common for video games to have far fewer [=NPC=]s than would logically exist in a location. It's a byproduct of having limited space to add every necessary thing into the game world, as well as representing an entire country/island/game setting in a size that the player can traverse without extensive tedious travel from point A to point B. This is by no means unique to Spirit Tracks or the Zelda series.

[[WMG: Link IS the Fierce Deity... sorta.]]
Primarily suggested by the sword skills, the body build, and the voice when you get a chance to control him in Majora's Mask. How did it come about? Perhaps the Goddesses are not the only inhabitants of the sacred realm, and that one of these, a titan-like entity who would later be remembered only as the Fierce Deity, was a particularly obscenely skilled warrior who cared only for shedding blood and killing foes. The Goddesses managed to subdue him and subjugate him (creating the mask), but were unable to completely destroy him--some raging violent aspect was left afterward. Trying to figure out what to do with him, Farore, suddenly struck by inspiration, infused that violent spirit with a soul of her own creation, thus creating an obscenely skilled warrior who now embodies her aspects of vitality and courage. Sound familiar?
* As of ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]]'', it has been revealed that [[spoiler:Zelda is the goddess Hylia reborn as a mortal]]. The game also strongly implies that [[spoiler:Ganondorf embodies the undying hate of the demon king Demise]]. Knowing this, it wouldn't come as a surprise if Link was himself an avatar to some divine being, and the Fierce Deity does appear as a likely candidate. One could imagine the goddesses are trying to correct the BloodKnight-ish and KnightTemplar-ish aspects of an otherwise invaluable ally.

[[WMG: In ''A Link to the Past'', Link's wish was, at least in part...]]
For all those innocents who died to be brought back. Thus explaining the unexplained return of the King, Link's uncle, the Flute boy, and presumably all the guards who ended up in the crossfire.

Are actually how the people of Hyrule remember the adventures of the Links. They added in new plotlines, cut out good portions of the dungeons, and filled out the character of Hylia's Chosen Hero to pass off SkywardSword!Link as his reincarnation. According to ''Hyrule Historia'', only some of the heroes of the games were actually called Link...but just like the storytellers, the manga versions of the games identify each one as Link.

[[WMG: Fado, the Wind Sage from "The Wind Waker" is Saria's son. And Link is the father.]]
This one takes quite a few inspirations; first off, Fado looks A LOT like Link, and not just because of the Kokiri clothing (though that definitely helps). What happened is that at some points during the events of Ocarina of Time, Link and Saria ended up having some form of relationship during his adult years prior to his going back in time, and they bore a child. However, Link was sent back in time before ever getting to see his son. After he was born, Saria decided to name the child after one of her close friends: Fado, another one of the Kokiri who lived in the Forest with the Deku Tree.

Eventually, there came a time when new temples were being built for prayer in the name of the Master Sword, which was left behind by the Hero of Time. What temples did they decide to build? Well, there's a theory that the Forest Temple in Ocarina was originally going to be a Wind Temple: The symbol of the Forest Medallion could pass for a wind symbol, and the Forest Temple trial in Ganon's Castle has wind puzzles.

Assuming this is true, an actual Wind Temple was built with close ties to the Forest Temple. When they needed a Sage for the new temple, they appointed the child of the Forest Temple's sage (and the Hero of Time's son himself!). There, Fado would pray to the gods in hopes that they would continue to lend their blessing to the Master Sword. It helps that Fado, like his mother, also has a musical passion, but he preferred the violin to the ocarina.
* Taking this a step further, because Fado was never raised by Link, he never learned any of the hero's skills, and was unable to defend himself from Molgera when Ganon attacked the Wind Temple. Link ([=OoT=]) may regret that he never got to raise the son he had in another timeline, and this regret would manifest itself in such a way that, even after death, his soul could not rest until he could teach and pass on his greatest skills. He would become the Hero's Shade, and his guilt would not be lifted until the events of Twilight Princess, when he was finally able to pass his skills down to another one of the chosen heroes.
** The Shade's quotes also hint towards this a lot. He tells Link "Although I accepted life as the hero, I could not convey the lessons of that life to those who came after." That is, his heroic destiny was great, but it also robbed him of the chance to pass his abilities down to his son 'who came after'. Afterwards, he says to Link "Go and do not falter, my child!"
* This seems unlikely... I always assumed that the Deku Sprout's statement that Kokiri never grow up implies they never become sexually mature, and reproduce through some other method. The theory that they're plant-based and grown from the Deku Tree's seeds is a popular one, and I think that makes sense for forest fairy creatures.

* Why put in craploads of [=NPC=]s that have no purpose except to show how populated the city is, like Castle Town in TP? For one, I doubt the DS would support the memory. Therefore, I propose that Nintendo only put in [=NPC=]s that were going to actually '''matter''' in the game, either in side-quests or the plot itself.

[[WMG: WW Hyrule flooded because of the moonfall in Termina.]]
Since Link [[TearJerker may not have been there]] (see this troper's wishful mass guess on the MM page as to why it's a may and not a definitely) to awaken the giants, stop Skull Kid, and prevent the moon from falling, the moon leaves a huge crater with large fissures across Termina, forcing a rift through the area that Link fell through early in the game. Much of the ocean around Termina drained into the rift, and filled Hyrule with the water that the goddesses supposedly sent to purge the land of Ganon's influence. The moonfall caused the mountains to rise as the water came through, so the goddesses may have done at least that to keep the primary landmarks of Hyrule intact. If the goddesses ''did'' cause the flood, in this way and indirectly, see also "the goddesses are {{jerkass}}es" above.

* Alternatively, destroying the moon simply caused massive tidal issues.
** One flaw. AlternateTimeline. There's a WMG further up that discusses the question of Termina's condition in the Adult Timeline.
** Alternative to the alternative: The moon falling out of orbit caused massive tidal issues.
* Or how about this one: Hyrule is flat, and Termina is on the opposite side (explaining how Link could "fall" through the plane and end up on the other side), but they have a single ocean which wraps around the side of the flat plane. Previously, the gravity of Termina's moon exerted tidal forces that kept most of the ocean on the Termina side (which is why Termina had more watery areas than Hyrule - the Great Bay and the Southern Swamp). Once the moon was destroyed, the water washed back, flooding Hyrule.
** This would imply that the Hyrule/Termina plane has two moons, one that was always in a fixed position over Termina, and another that rotates around the entire plane. But then why would we not see a second moon traveling overhead in Termina?
** Of course, since Hyrule's moon is never seen during the day, one reasonable explanation is that while Hyrule/Termina rotates, the sun and moon are in fixed positions on opposite sides of the plane. Once we're talking about flat planets, pretty much all we know about astronomy can be thrown out the window. INeedAFreakingDrink.
* Given that Majora's Mask features Link barely older than in [=OoT=]'s child section, and the Great Flood takes place some time after Ganondorf's defeat in the adult section, there is no way the two events could match up unless the moon was somehow delayed for multiple years, or the effects of its impact were just that long-winded.

[[WMG: Marin in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaLinksAwakening Link's Awakening]]'' is a descendant of [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker Medli.]] ]]
She has red hair (apparently a trait of female or child Rito). She also possesses a harp -- a sign of the Earth sage bloodline. In the end of the original black and white ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaLinksAwakening Link's Awakening]]'' she takes the form of a WingedHumanoid. The human-like nose is probably due to interbreeding with normal Hylians.
* Except that A: Medli's people evolved from [=OoT=] Zoras (which is weird on its own, but hey), B: Oracle of Ages takes place just before Link's Awakening, and shows that the Zora of [=OoT=] are alive and well, C: Wind Waker and Link's Awakening take place in completely different timeline splits, and D: Link's Awakening is a dream anyways.

[[WMG:''WW''[='=]s Fado was the "Kokiri who left the forest and is still alive" that that one Gossip Stones spoke of.]]
Because it's possible that he left for his temple BEFORE ''[=OoT=]'' (and not after like many people think). Also, if we see the Kokiri in ''Skyward Sword'' (which I hope we do), we might even meet him before he leaves. And maybe Saria too.

[[WMG: The ''WW'' Fado is a reincarnation of the Fado of ''[=OoT=]'']]
Same name, same hair color, and there was evidence she was supposed to be a wind sage. He is her reincarnated and is living her prophecy of being a sage.

[[WMG: Fado in ''Ocarina of Time'' is the same Fado as the one in ''The Wind Waker'']]
Fado is said to have been a relative of Saria in ''WW'', but he must have been born a while after her death. Plus the only Kokiri with his name was the blond girl, ''Fado''. Fado was meant to be the wind sage, Fado is a blond CreepyChild in a similar way her WW incarnation is, etc. Either that or he's a closely related reincarnation of her.
* Alternatively, he's both a descendant of Saria and Fado.

[[WMG: [=ALttP=] is the end of the Adult Timeline.]]
In ''The Wind Waker'', Ganondorf summons the Triforce into that timeline, removing it from the child timeline, conveniently at the end of ''Twilight Princess''. The reason Link is a bunny instead of a wolf is because he's the reincarnation of a different Link. Presumably, this means that Ganon is defeated for good in TP.
* Jossed. ''[=ALttP=]'' is the first game to occur if the Hero of Time fails against Ganondorf.

[[WMG: Sheik can be either male or female, depending on his/her mood that day.]]
Just one of the many wonders of magic.
* Zelda is not amused...

[[WMG: The Imprsioning War!Sages found a "Link", but couldn't locate the Master Sword]]

[[WMG: The Great Flood in ''The Wind Waker'' is an alternate version of ''Twilight Princess'' where Ganon wins because ''TP'' Link was never born]]
[[WordOfGod Eiji Aonuma]] has stated that ''The Wind Waker'' and the Great Flood takes place in the Adult Timeline from ''[=OoT=]'' and ''Twilight Princess'' takes place in the Child Timeline where Zelda sends Link back in time to when he was a child. It's implied that the Great Flood occurs during the first time Ganon escapes in the Adult Timeline and it's implied that Twilight Princess is the first time Ganon escapes in the Child Timeline. At the very least, this gives the two events a certain degree of parallelism.

Furthermore, it is strongly implied that ''TP'' Link is a direct descendant of ''[=OoT=]'' Link. The Hero's Shade canonically states that ''TP'' Link "carries the blood of the hero". The references in ''Twilight Princess'' to "the hero" usually refer to ''[=OoT=]'' Link. Since ''[=OoT=]'' Link ceases to exist in the Adult Timeline when he is sent back to the Child Timeline, the Hero's bloodline no longer exists in the Adult Timeline and ''[=OoT=]'' Link has no descendants in the Adult Timeline. As a result, in the Adult Timeline, ''TP'' Link is never born and this is why no hero appeared to stop Ganon in ''The Wind Waker''[='=]s back story.

The differences between Old Hyrule in ''The Wind Waker'' and the Hyrule in ''Twilight Princess'', such as the presence of King Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule, can be HandWaved as a result of the ButterflyEffect from the various timeline differences, such as the different ways Ganon was sealed and that the people Ganon killed in the Adult Timeline survived in the Child Timeline.

[[WMG: Koholint Island is an AlternateUniverse created by the Wind Fish.]]
Created by him dreaming. Yes, really.
* Isn't that {{Canon}}?
** Not that I'm aware of, {{Canon}} mostly just says "lol, it was AllJustADream, Koholint is [[DreamApocalypse gone forever]] cuz [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Link woke the Windfish up]]".
*** Which means it is Canon. Your response was basically DistinctionWithoutADifference.

[[WMG: In ''Link's Awakening'', the disembodied voice after beating a dungeon is the Wind Fish itself]]
After you beat a dungeon and acquire an instrument, you play the instrument, causing the Wind Fish to stir in its sleep and mutter about something it sees in its dream, such as "...SWAMP... ...A path opens in the blooms..." Or perhaps it desires to be awoken and its drifting conciousness is trying to guide you to your next destination.

[[WMG: ''Spirit Tracks'' is an allegory for Zelda becoming a woman]]
Princess Zelda -- or the girl Princess Zelda represents -- wants to become intimate with Link/the boy Link represents. However, the two must go through the traditional process of courtship to do so. Zelda must come to terms with her maturity and her new status as a sexual being (reclaiming her body), fighting back against her own immaturity (Cole) yet warding off her own primal urges (Malladus), eventually seeking aid from a mature, middle ground (Byrne).

Link, meanwhile, does all the hard work, as is the chivalrous way to go, seeking the advice of his friends and elders and Zelda's guardians (the Lokomos) while pampering Zelda with gifts and the like (the items). Together, they must go on a set path (the Spirit Tracks) from one stage of their relationship to the next. Before they finish their formal quest, Zelda can only interact through a suit of armor (always wear protection, kids!). But when they finally finish their arduous process, love will bloom at last.

This is to say nothing about the numerous imagery of [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything building a tower and trains going into dark tunnels.]]
** So you're trying to tell us, that the Phantom is a Kondome?... [[FlatWhat What.]]
** Well, perhaps it's more of a giant chastity belt.
* Well, what do the three different endings mean?

[[WMG: Fado in [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]] is not a Kokiri]]
Most Kokiri have orange hair. Link, a Hylian, has blonde hair. Saria has green hair, but she is the Sage of Forest, thereby setting her apart. The only "pure" Kokiri who doesn't have orange hair is Fado. It is possible, therefore, that she is not a Kokiri. This is further supported by [[CreepyChild her role in the Biggoron's Sword sidequest]].
** But the [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker other Fado]] does also have blonde her and is outright stated to have been the last Kokiri...
*** But WW Fado was also a Sage.
** How is she still a kid though? A ghost?
*** She's still the wind sage.

[[WMG: Wind Waker Link and Zelda are older than they look]]
They look like 10 year old kids because of the art style, but think about it. At the beginning of the game, Link's Granny says he's the same age as the Legendary Hero. But Wind Waker takes place in the adult timeline where Link did his best work at the age of 17. Also, his age in the game is never actually given (at least not in game).
* Toon Link's trophy in [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl Brawl]] states that he was 12.

[[WMG: The sleeping Zelda from Zelda 2 is from one of the other timelines]]
It's supposedly the same Link in this game, but where did this sleeping Zelda come from? This troper suspects the timelines merged at some point, but somehow, this Zelda who was taking a centuries long dirt nap was missed in the shuffle. Impa (who may or may not also be from another timeline) learned about it, and went to Link since saving Princesses is what he's good at. Link kicks some ass, wakes her up, and now......there are two Princess Zelda's. OH CRAP!!
** As follower of the Reincarnation-theory, I prefer to think that the last game's Princess Zelda [[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome died]] shortly before this game and that awakening the original one was only possible because the body wasn't an empty shell at the time.
** Actually, that makes a hell of a lot more sense. But it also seems a bit cold. One Zelda dies so they just wake up the spare. It really sucks to be her sometimes.
** Original theory is supported by the fact that the ending theme of Zelda 2, when you wake Zelda up. Every game after it uses Zelda's Lullaby as Zelda's theme, with one exception: The Minish Cap, which used the credits music from The Adventure of Link. Considering that this game is often considered to be the first in the series, well....

[[WMG: Zelda in OOT wasn't as useless as she seemed]]
This one hit me just recently. Remember what she said about how she needed Link to occupy Ganondorf while she and the sages seal him in the Sacred Realm? Well, Ganondorf is quite the ImplacableMan, so it's likely that any spell to seal him away would take a lot of time and energy. What do you think she was doing that whole time the evil pig man had her [[FridgeBrilliance trapped in that crystal, and when Link was fighting him as Ganon?]] So why did it still take so long? Because when Ganondorf went down the first time, [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat she either mistakenly took him for dead,]] or she was unable to concentrate due to a bad case of [[LoadBearingBoss Castle to the head.]] Hell, even her getting caught may have had some benefits. Remember. Ganondorf kept her imprisoned the entire time he had that first round with Link. He might have great power, but something like that could have divided his focus just a wee bit. And that's my 2 cents.

[[WMG: Link IS the Fierce Deity...sorta.]]

[[WMG: In the Adult timeline of Ocarina Of Time, Ganon can never actually be sealed away by the power of the sages.]]
* Behold my reasoning: The six sages represent the six races of Hyrule, correct? Light = Hylian, Forest = Kokiri, Fire = Goron, Water = Zora, Spirit = Gerudo, and Shadow = Sheikah. Oh wait. The Sheikah are all dead. Impa is referred to as the "last of the Sheikah". And if the reasoning of this very wiki is to be believed, upon ascending to her position as the sage of the Shadow Temple, Impa did shuffle off this mortal coil. The only other "Sheikah" in Hyrule is - oh wait, Sheik is Zelda, meaning Sheik is a Hylian, and therefore does not qualify. The six races each maintained one temple in order to keep Ganon sealed away. Therefore, the power of those temples would have to come from those very races. The Sheikah, being vitally challenged, can no longer provide the spiritual mumbo-jumbo to power their seal. QED, by sealing Ganon away a la sages, you've sealed him with a faulty seal. No wonder he breaks out again! [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job breaking it, Sheikah.]]
* Who says they need to be alive...?
** Who says they're not alive in the first place but just in hiding because of their low numbers?
* Hmm...that is true. So then, the Shadow seal is supported by Sheikah spirits?

[[WMG:Fado, from OOT, still is the Wind Sage]]
It's been speculated, maybe even confirmed, that she was the sage of a Wind Temple before being DemotedToExtra just before the game's release. She has a unique model, unique dialogue, and she ''disappears'' randomly at one point in the game to never be discussed of again. She discovered she was a wind sage or went to live as a wind sage. However, you weren't let on the action for some reason.

[[WMG:The events of ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSpiritTracks Spirit Tracks]]'' are a BatmanGambit on part of the Lokomotos.]]
In the ending, Anjean refers to Byrne as "my old friend" and reveals that he is also one of the Lokomotos. We never saw the two fight with each other, and Byrne didn't kill Link and Alfonso over his supposed ambitions. His FaceHeelTurn was staged in order to eventually give Link and Zelda, who they knew to be the ones able to do so, a chance to defeat Malladus once and for all, ending their duty as guardians of the Spirit Tracks.

[[WMG:WW's Fado was the "Kokiri who left the forest and is still alive" that that one Gossip Stone spoke of.]]
Because, it's possible that he left for his temple BEFORE [=OoT=] (and not after like many people think). Also, if we see the Kokiri in Skyward Sword (which I hope we do), we might even meet him before he leaves. And maybe Saria too.

[[WMG: The WW Fado is a reincarnation of the Fado of OOT]]

[[WMG: Fado ''is'' a Wind sage]]
There are two "extra" sages in Wind Waker. Presumably they had incarnations before them too. One is Fado and the other is...Kasuto?

[[WMG: Fado and Mido are twins]]
It's speculated they're siblings, but maybe they were born at the same time?

[[WMG:Fado dies around the 7 year period]]
Now she's a ghost CreepyChild. Her personality ''does'' seem less peppy than before.

Link is living proof that Hyrule has some disturbing ideas about when someone's ready to fight in a war. Later games in the timeline might change this up a bit, but during the war that killed Link's parents, there were a lot of child soldiers who died horribly and, by the land's magic or some twisted necromancer, got changed into Stalchildren. In Majora's Mask, we meet a whole squad of them, and they provide the answer to why the town guards are unconcerned with Link if he has a sword: yeah, he's twelve, but he has a weapon, so he must be a soldier.

That's the reason we have those dog things instead in Twilight Princess - no wars in the recent enough past.

[[WMG: Fado in Ocarina of Time is the same Fado as the one in Wind Waker]]
Fado is said to have been a relative of Saria in WW, but he must have been born a while after her death. Plus the only Kokori with his name was the blond girl, ''Fado''. Fado was meant to be the wind sage, Fado is a blond CreepyChild in a similar way her WW incarnation is, etc. Either that or he's a closely related reincarnation of her.
** Alternatively, he's both a descendant of Saria and Fado.

[[WMG: Zelda and Link are siblings in Ocarina of Time]]
Or at least related. I know I'm going to invoke a FandomEnragingMisconception for this, but it's a perfectly reasonable thought.

[[WMG: In Spirit Tracks, Link was a part of a massive [[CounterfeitCash money laundering]] scam along with Alfonzo]]
The Whole "engineer" thing was a clever smokescreen to cover said scam. Link and Alfonzo used grass clippings and broken pottery to fabricate fake rupees which were indistinguishable from real ones. This is how they were able to cover the cost of the free transport and passenger services. Link only got caught up in the whole "saving the world" thing by accident. Also free treasures as well.

[[WMG: Fado isn't just a creepy girl or a ghost]]

Well, she's creepy, but not out of cruelty or a lack of empathy. How does she know he was there? I mean, yeah, she stumbled upon him, but what if there is more to it? What if she had visited him a few times or watched him as he slept (which is a little creepy, but still)? Not having much contact with the outside world, she is curious as to what it is like. She grows a bond with this boy... then he turns into a Stalfos right in front of her eyes. (Perhaps with a brief bit of remaining humanity, he spares her and runs off, as somehow I doubt an unarmed little girl can kill a Stalfos). He may have even given her the saw, but she (due to trauma) couldn't hold onto it. She watched her friend turn into a Stalfos and is now traumatized! Now she waits until she changes (of course she won't be a Stalfos, but at this point she doesn't really care...) That’s right, this entire time we’ve been calling a deeply troubled and hurt girl creepy - how does that make you feel?
* Rather perturbed, considering her creepy laughing throughout the conversation.
** What could possibly be so condemning as a little bit of [[TroubledFetalPosition nervous laughter]]?
* Are you suggesting that Fado is the first Kokiri to be transformed into a Korok?
* She wasn't unarmed..... She had a saw.

[[WMG: [=LttP=] is the end of the Adult Timeline.]]
In Wind Waker, Ganondorf summons the Triforce into that timeline, removing it from the child timeline, conveniently at the end of Twilight Princess. The reason Link is a bunny instead of a wolf is because he's the reincarnation of a different Link. Presumably, this means that Ganon is defeated for good in TP.
* Jossed. [=ALttP=] is the first game to occur if The Hero of Time fails against Ganondorf.

First assuming that the Minish Cap happens after Ocarina of Time it's logical that the Picori Blade is just another name for the Master Sword, as they are visually identical (at least in the flashback).
After being Level Uped to the Four Sword, it goes on to become a prison for Ganon in Four Swords Adventure.
Ganon, being Ganon, obviously breaks free from this prison, and reduces the Four Sword back to the White Sword seen in MC, and it is in this form that it is given to Link in the original Legend of Zelda.

* The Minish Cap occurs two games before Ocarina of Time.

[[WMG: [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker Toon Link and Tetra]] are older than they look.]]
We all assume they are the same age as Young Link and Zelda from Ocarina, but Link's Grandmother states that he is the same age as the [[TheChosenOne The Hero of Time]] when she gives him his clothes. When Link became the Hero of Time, he was 17, and that is when he did his best and most well known work. Also, his exact age is never given at any point in the game, and a teenager would still be a kid. [[DependingOnTheArtist Artist interpretation]] is the reason they seem younger.
* [[SarcasmMode Because clearly Toon Link's voice sounds anywhere near 15, let alone 17.]] Let's not forget this is a '''legend''', and like any legend, facts get mixed up with time. The Triforce somehow became known as a special set of silverware, how is it at all unlikely for The Hero of Time's age to get mixed up? Unless TeensAreShort is taken UpToEleven, along with Link's voice getting no deeper after turning 11, this holds no water. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And the Hero of Time was NINE/SIXTEEN!]]

[[WMG: The Maku Trees from ''Oracle of Seasons / Ages'' are brother and sister.]]
They are both called The Maku Tree, though they are obviously different trees.

[[WMG: In the linked ending of the Oracle games, Ralph and Nayru are hanging out with their (future?) kids.]]
The three kids that trail them use generic NPC sprites, but of note is that said sprites have black hair, while in the sepia shot, the children have much lighter hair, although the exact colors are unknown. Ralph is similar; he's a FieryRedhead, but is shown with dark hair in his sprite. Additionally, the fact that they're playing around while Nayru holds a [[ISOStandardUrbanGroceries bag of groceries]] is a little suspicious, too. It's pretty common to see families taking their young children with them on a shopping trip, after all. Plus, it's very easy to see her relationship [[VictoriousChildhoodFriend with Ralph]] [[BodyguardCrush as romantic]].

The question would be how the heck they'd get three kids so fast, no matter what order the games were completed in. One of two options could occur: If Ages occurs first, then there might be enough time to elapse for them to at least reach preteen age, assuming they age as fast as Bipin and Blossom's son does.

More likely, though, they didn't wait at all. Nayru's the Oracle of Ages, and short of divine will and time paradoxes (and possibly not even those if she just doesn't care), there's nothing stopping her from taking Ralph and visiting a future where they've hooked up and had children, or bringing the children to their time, or even taking the whole family to a time period where none of them belong in. It'd explain the unrecognizable town they're in, anyway. It's possible that this sort of thing happens often enough for the kids not to bat an eye at it. Granted, time paradoxes might still occur -- what if they learn their firstborn is named Bob and, at his birth, call him Charlie instead? -- but again, the game's pretty weird with time to begin with, between Bipin's son and the construction of the Black Tower.

* Except the games with lynels take place after most, if not all, of the later games.

[[WMG: The Great Flood in Wind Waker is an alternate version of Twilight Princess where Ganon wins because TP Link was never born]]
[[WordOfGod Eiji Aonuma]] has stated that Wind Waker and the Great Flood takes place in the Adult Timeline from [=OoT=] and Twilight Princess takes place in the Child Timeline where Zelda sends Link back in time to when he was a child. It's implied that the Great Flood occurs during the first time Ganon escapes in the Adult Timeline and it's implied that Twilight Princess is the first time Ganon escapes in the Child Timeline. At the very least, this gives the two events a certain degree of parallelism.

Furthermore, it is strongly implied that TP Link is a direct descendant of OOT Link. The Hero's Shade canonically states that TP Link "carries the blood of the hero". The references in Twilight Princess to "the hero" usually refer to OOT Link. Since OOT Link ceases to exist in the Adult Timeline when he is sent back to the Child Timeline, the Hero's bloodline no longer exists in the Adult Timeline and OOT Link has no descendants in the Adult Timeline. As a result, in the Adult Timeline, TP Link is never born and this is why no hero appeared to stop Ganon in Wind Waker's back story.

The differences between Old Hyrule in Wind Waker and the Hyrule in Twilight Princess, such as the presence of King Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule, can be HandWaved as a result of the ButterflyEffect from the various timeline differences, such as the different ways Ganon was sealed and that the people Ganon killed in the Adult Timeline survived in the Child Timeline.

[[WMG: Link of Time actually does marry Ruto after going back to the past.]]
Since she isn't awakened as a sage or if she is, she doesn't in time, Link really has no choice to but to fulfill his promise to Ruto. That and no one lets him get a word in edgewise to protest it.
* Sorry, but Ganondorf kills the Sage of Water. She would have to awaken as the Water Sage no matter what, apparently.
** What evidence do you have that he kills her in the Child Timeline? When could he have?
** You see him kill a Water Sage in a flashback in Twilight Princess. Presumably that was Ruto's predecessor. Though the fact that the Water Sage is still missing from the group by the time of TP may mean that Ruto, or any other replacement, was never awakened as a Sage.
* There is no longer any promise to Ruto in the Child Timeline. Why not? Because he was sent back, basically, to the first time he met Zelda, which was before he ever met Ruto or obtained the Zora's Sapphire. While he does know Ruto, she wouldn't know him (side note: you do, as I recall, see the Sages in the final scene, and they're adults... so apparently, they're capable of moving between timelines).

[[WMG: Link didn't cause a Paradox with the Song of Storms.]]
So everyone knows about Link learning a song from a guy who only knows it because Link taught him it and it just goes in circles. However, I propose that...wait for it...It wasn't ''Link'' that screwed up the windmill with the Song of Storms, it was some other kid entirely. Who? Well, that's not important. After learning the song in the future, Link goes back and plays it ''before'' this mystery kid.

Before you complain that Guru-Guru says something along the lines of "Grr, you played the Ocarina again didn't you?", keep in mind the man isn't exactly calm and is possibly just making assumptions.

[[WMG: The Bridge Worker from ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSpiritTracks'' is the grandson of [[InterspeciesRomance Moe and Maggie]] from ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker Wind Waker]]'']]

[[WMG: Instead of the Distant Past...]]
The series takes place in a post apocalyptic future, which is why the further back in the timeline the games are set, the more technologically advanced they appear to be.

[[WMG: New Hyrule from ST is Termina]]

* This is definitely an interesting idea. The one thing that would need explaining, though, is this -- why do the ocean and forest areas switch around? In ST, the ocean is to the east of the forest, while in MM, it's to the west. The placement of Ikana as the "Desert" area, the Goron Shrine as the "Fire" area, and Snowhead as the "Snow" area all make sense, as does Clock Town being related to Tower of Spirits, but the forest and ocean have moved. Interestingly, one could probably recover the great layout with just two adjustments - Ikana Castle = Tower of Spirits, and there's more ocean to the east of the MM map, along with more desert beyond the stone towers. This makes the "Fire" area of ST align with the Stone Towers, rather than the Goron Shrine. Clock Town has no obvious equivalent in this case.

[[WMG: Demon Lords of the Legend of Zelda series]]

[[WMG: Location, Location, Location]]
In between [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]] and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker The Wind Waker]], there was a Great Flood, which turned Hyrule into the Great Sea. Although most of it was underwater, many of the islands and locations seem to be remnants of the drowned kingdom. (And as for ''how'' those places became islands instead of staying underwater - [[AWizardDidIt the Goddesses raised them up]].)
* The Gerudo Fortress = The Forsaken Fortress
* Castle Town = Windfall Island
** The architecture on the island seems to resemble a castle. The resemblance to Kakariko Village is due to the residents of Kakariko moving to Windfall and rebuilding their homes. Eventually, the sub-cultures/architecture of the people from Castle Town and Kakariko Village merged, and they created Windfall.
** Doesn't explain its proximity to Death Mountain / Dragon Roost, nor how it's so far from the castle. I suggest that it's the opposite: as seen in (what led to the other timelines from) [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]], the moment Ganondorf came back everyone in Castle Town ran off to Kakariko. The castle-like structure is what they knew as the best barricade against either Ganondorf or the threat of pirates in the chaotic years that probably followed the flood.
* Death Mountain = Dragon Roost Island (& Fire Mountain)
** In [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]], it’s implied that the Gorons don’t need to breathe, and can stay underwater indefinitely. So most of them may have felt no need to evacuate to higher ground when the Flood came. (The three travelling merchants - all clearly Gorons - located on Greatfish Isle, Bomb Island, and Mother and Child Isles remain on the surface for business purposes.) So the Gorons stayed in Goron City.
*** The Zoras, on the other hand, despite being highly adapted to aquatic environments, weren’t so lucky. Although they seem at home in the water with their fins and gills, their humanoid bodies imply that they aren’t meant to be in the water ''all'' the time.
*** In real life, most fish are meant to be in either saltwater or freshwater; only a few, like bull sharks, can swim and breathe in both. Some of the Zoras, by praying to the Goddess Nayru, were able to adapt quickly to the saltwater environment, and settled on Greatfish Isle [[spoiler:until it was destroyed and they all disappeared]]. To thank Her, they created Nayru’s Pearl, which housed some of power of the Goddess Herself. They also hatched, nurtured and raised Lord Jabun, the offspring of the demi-god Lord Jabu-Jabu, to watch over them as the new living Water Spirit.
*** The other Zoras travelled north to the top of Death Mountain, and turned to the Goddess Din for aid. In answer to their prayers, She gave them avian features (beaks, feathers, wings) to protect them from the scorching heat, and entrusted a dragon egg to them. This egg held the single surviving offspring of the dragon Volvagia, who was slain by the Hero of Time. When the egg hatched, Din deemed the newborn dragon to be Lord Valoo, the living Sky Spirit. The Zoras, no longer being Zoras, began to call themselves Ritos, in memory of Ruto, the Princess (and later Queen) of the Zoras in ancient times.
*** Although the Ritos had wings, their wings were not big or strong enough to enable flight. So Din instructed Valoo to give each adult Rito one of his scales (which grew back easily). These scales triggered a magical “growth spurt” that caused a Rito’s wings to grow big enough to allow flight. Eventually, it became customary for young Ritos to visit Valoo and receive their wings when they came of age. To thank the Goddess for Her kindness, the Ritos created Din’s Pearl, which housed some of the power of the Goddess Herself.
* Kokiri Village & The Lost Woods = The Forest Haven & The Forbidden Woods
** When the Great Flood came, the Kokiri were completely unprepared. They were afraid to leave their forest, and couldn’t bear to abandon their guardian, the Great Deku Tree. The Deku Tree, who had just reached his juvenile stage of growth, prayed to the Goddess Farore for aid.
*** The Goddess answered by taking away the burden of the human forms the Kokiri took on. They shed their mimicked humanoid features and became what they had always been underneath: the Koroks.
*** The Kokiri, despite their mammalian appearance, had always been sentient plant-people. Instead of blood, they had chlorophyll keeping them alive. When they became the Koroks, they became lightweight enough to use the leaves that the Great Deku Tree shed as makeshift “wings”.
*** To thank the Goddess for Her kindness, the Koroks created Farore’s Pearl, which housed some of the power of the Goddess Herself.
-->''Once upon a time, long ago, the Koroks took on human forms, but when they came to live on the sea, they took these shapes.''
--The Great Deku to Link, when the Koroks reveal themselves.

[[WMG: Several of the original Zelda's labyrinths are actually locales from ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast'' and possibly other games.]]
* Level 4 - sits in the middle of the overworld and has a gold/blue motif, just like [=ALttP=]'s Hyrule Castle.
* Level 2 - lies to the far east, might be the East palace although the color scheme is off.
* Level 8 - East Palace's Sacred Realm counterpart, manifest in the light world (similar colors)
* Level 7 - Misery Mire, Manifest in the light world
* Level 3 - possibly the Defeat Timeline's equivalent of the pyramid from Four Swords Adventure (BS Zelda depicts this location as a pyramid)

[[WMG: In A Link To The Past, Link's wish was, at least in part...]]

In ''Ocarina of Time'' it's stated that Hylians' long ears allow them to hear the voices of the gods. Gods, being omniscient, would know about the events of alternate timelines. Therefore, Hylian priests might know about the alternate timelines, explaining why there are contradictory timeline references in ''Breath of the Wild''- events in alternate timelines become part of Hylian mythology.

Dynasties never last forever, [[OnlyChildSyndrome especially when they can't seem to produce more than a single heir at a time]]. At some point in Hyrule's long, tangled, nebulous history, something happened -- plague, insurrection, foreign invasion, forces of evil, take your pick -- and that cycle's Zelda died. As countries are wont to do in this situation, Hyrule started a new dynasty and kept on trucking -- but any special snowflake bloodline magic that the original royal family possessed is now lost forever.