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[[spoiler:With nothing left and no one to fight for, the experience of slaughtering countless people will make Ellie yearn for the rush of killing others as a substitute to the family bonds she’s lost.]]
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[[spoiler:With nothing left and no one to fight for, for but the experience delirium of slaughtering countless people will make people, Ellie yearn for will go off the deep end and seek the rush of killing others as a substitute to the family bonds she’s lost.]]
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* Due to the losses Ellie has experienced in ''II'', she is not so different from Joel in the first game (as he grieved over Sara for ''20 years'' before finally accepting her death). In ''III'', Ellie will soften up and become [[BigSisterInstinct fiercly protective of the girl]] the same way [[PapaWolf Joel]] was for her.
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* Due to the losses Ellie has experienced in ''II'', she is not so different from Joel in the first game (as he grieved over Sara for ''20 years'' before finally accepting her death). In ''III'', Ellie will soften up and become [[BigSisterInstinct fiercly fiercely protective of the girl]] the same way [[PapaWolf Joel]] was for her.
[[WMG: Ellie will kidnap JJ]]
In a darker spin on the above, Ellie will begin the third game traipsing with a teenage JJ, feeding him a story about either her being his mom or her being his mom's friend/girlfriend/wife who raised him since she died. Flashbacks, or the story in whatever manner, will then reveal that Ellie tracked down Dina and JJ when he was still a baby. When a still bitter Dina rejected her, Ellie kidnapped JJ so she won't be alone again, possibly even (probably accidentally) murdering Dina when she tried to stop her. Ellie will try to keep JJ from knowing the truth so that he doesn't leave her as well.
* Alternatively, by the time Ellie finds her, Dina is already dead or dying and Ellie gets JJ with no blood on her hands.
In a darker spin on the above, Ellie will begin the third game traipsing with a teenage JJ, feeding him a story about either her being his mom or her being his mom's friend/girlfriend/wife who raised him since she died. Flashbacks, or the story in whatever manner, will then reveal that Ellie tracked down Dina and JJ when he was still a baby. When a still bitter Dina rejected her, Ellie kidnapped JJ so she won't be alone again, possibly even (probably accidentally) murdering Dina when she tried to stop her. Ellie will try to keep JJ from knowing the truth so that he doesn't leave her as well.
* Alternatively, by the time Ellie finds her, Dina is already dead or dying and Ellie gets JJ with no blood on her hands.
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* With everything Ellie still has to live for(it's strongly hinted that she has re-united with Dina)it's unlikely she would want to sacrifice herself and in flashbacks Abby insisted to her father that she was willing to sacrifice herself for the cure if need be, I doubt Naughty Dog would've had her saying that without it paying off later at some point. So I think part 3 is going to focus on Tommy finding out that Abby is still alive and setting off to finish her off once and for all with Ellie and Dina both trying to stop him from getting himself killed, he's about to kill her when he's stopped by the other fireflies who inform him that Abby is also immune(earlier she got bit when defending Lev from the infected) and is planning on sacrificing herself for the cure and Tommy has to get over his desire for revenge and protect Abby so that Ellie does not have to sacrifice herself for the cure.
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* With everything Ellie still has to live for(it's for (it's strongly hinted that she has re-united reunited with Dina)it's Dina) it's unlikely she would want to sacrifice herself and in flashbacks Abby insisted to her father that she was willing to sacrifice herself for the cure if need be, I doubt Naughty Dog would've had her saying that without it paying off later at some point. So I think part 3 is going to focus on Tommy finding out that Abby is still alive and setting off to finish her off once and for all with Ellie and Dina both trying to stop him from getting himself killed, he's about to kill her when he's stopped by the other fireflies who inform him that Abby is also immune(earlier immune (earlier she got bit when defending Lev from the infected) and is planning on sacrificing herself for the cure and Tommy has to get over his desire for revenge and protect Abby so that Ellie does not have to sacrifice herself for the cure.
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redeem. Ellie is less than thankful for her intervention because of, well, everything.
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** Personally, I find it unlikely Naughty Dog would kill off Ellie so unceremoniously, [[spoiler:considering the backlash over Joel's death. And while the ending is anything but uplifting, Ellie is shown walking off rather than breaking down into tears, which implies she'll soldier on]]. But it's gritty, cruel, and emotional, which is the direction TLOU is taking.
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** Personally, I find it unlikely Naughty Dog would kill off Ellie so unceremoniously, [[spoiler:considering Alternatively, Abby or Lev are the backlash over Joel's death. And while the ending is anything but uplifting, Ellie is shown walking off rather than breaking down into tears, which implies she'll soldier on]]. But it's gritty, cruel, and emotional, which is the direction TLOU is taking.
ones who a stumble on her corpse.
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Since she can’t do so with her missing fingers. Possibly while she is dying. Maybe Tommy, Dina or Abby.
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[[WMG: Abby will try to save Ellie]]
Ellie either gets herself captured, trapped or otherwise screwed due to her suicidal recklessness and needs Abby to rescue her or becomes an amoral selfish mercenary who Abby tries to redeem.
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[[WMG: The protagonist of ''Part III'' will be a black man or boy]]
* Just spit-balling honestly. Bonus points for a native African.
* Just spit-balling honestly. Bonus points for a native African.
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[[WMG: The protagonist of ''Part III'' will be a black man or boy]]
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* Just spit-balling honestly. Bonus points for a native born African.
* Just spit-balling honestly. Bonus points for a native born African.
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* Rather than just becoming a mindless killer, she might retract her forgiveness of Abby and continue to hunt her down to take revenge.
* If they want to go dark with it, if Ellie tracks down Dina and is unable to win her back, she may [[IfICantHaveYou murder]] her and kidnap JJ to raise as her own son.
* If they want to go dark with it, if Ellie tracks down Dina and is unable to win her back, she may [[IfICantHaveYou murder]] her and kidnap JJ to raise as her own son.
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[[WMG: The natural history museum building was set up by Joel.]]
* I don't think it's circumstance that a Firefly dropped dead in that building that Joel claimed he hadn't checked (like he wouldn't go over the whole land with a fine tooth comb before bringing Ellie there). With some inspiration from the underground town in Pittsburgh, he uses someone's long dead body, some spray paint, and a pen and paper to make a haunted house to justify himself against the Fireflies.
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[[WMG: Abby will discover that she is also immune to the virus and will end up being the one to sacrifice herself]]
* With everything Ellie still has to live for(it's strongly hinted that she has re-united with Dina)it's unlikely she would want to sacrifice herself and in flashbacks Abby insisted to her father that she was willing to sacrifice herself for the cure if need be, I doubt Naughty Dog would've had her saying that without it paying off later at some point. So I think part 3 is going to focus on Tommy finding out that Abby is still alive and setting off to finish her off once and for all with Ellie and Dina both trying to stop him from getting himself killed, he's about to kill her when he's stopped by the other fireflies who inform him that Abby is also immune(earlier she got bit when defending Lev from the infected) and is planning on sacrificing herself for the cure and Tommy has to get over his desire for revenge and protect Abby so that Ellie does not have to sacrifice herself for the cure.
* With everything Ellie still has to live for(it's strongly hinted that she has re-united with Dina)it's unlikely she would want to sacrifice herself and in flashbacks Abby insisted to her father that she was willing to sacrifice herself for the cure if need be, I doubt Naughty Dog would've had her saying that without it paying off later at some point. So I think part 3 is going to focus on Tommy finding out that Abby is still alive and setting off to finish her off once and for all with Ellie and Dina both trying to stop him from getting himself killed, he's about to kill her when he's stopped by the other fireflies who inform him that Abby is also immune(earlier she got bit when defending Lev from the infected) and is planning on sacrificing herself for the cure and Tommy has to get over his desire for revenge and protect Abby so that Ellie does not have to sacrifice herself for the cure.
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* Due to the losses Ellie has experienced in ''II'', she is NotSoDifferent not so different from Joel in the first game (as he grieved over Sara for ''20 years'' before finally accepting her death). In ''III'', Ellie will soften up and become [[BigSisterInstinct fiercly protective of the girl]] the same way [[PapaWolf Joel]] was for her.
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* After realising that he ruined (or nearly ruined as the ending doesn’t make it clear) Ellie and Dinas relationship he will show regret during his scenes in the third game and try to make things right.
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[[WMG: Ellie will have a teenage co-protagonist in ''III'' that will be a {{Foil}} to her 14 year-old self in the first game.]]
* Due to the losses Ellie has experienced in ''II'', she is NotSoDifferent from Joel in the first game (as he grieved over Sara for ''20 years'' before finally accepting her death). In ''III'', Ellie will soften up and become [[BigSisterInstinct fiercly protective of the girl]] the same way [[PapaWolf Joel]] was for her.
* To take the contrasting further, perhaps the girl would also be a "what-if" of Sara if she survived the first night of the outbreak and got sheltered too much by Joel. Ellie would become her BigSisterMentor and teach her how to fend for herself in a zombie apocalyptic world.
* Due to the losses Ellie has experienced in ''II'', she is NotSoDifferent from Joel in the first game (as he grieved over Sara for ''20 years'' before finally accepting her death). In ''III'', Ellie will soften up and become [[BigSisterInstinct fiercly protective of the girl]] the same way [[PapaWolf Joel]] was for her.
* To take the contrasting further, perhaps the girl would also be a "what-if" of Sara if she survived the first night of the outbreak and got sheltered too much by Joel. Ellie would become her BigSisterMentor and teach her how to fend for herself in a zombie apocalyptic world.
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[[WMG: Part III will be about Ellie exploring areas in part I as a way to cope with losing Joel.]]
* After the dark and action filled part II the next game will be about Ellie going back to the places she went to with Joel in part I with the game ending with Ellie finally coming to terms with Joel’s death and deciding to move on and also decides to try to make things right with Dina finally giving Ellie a happy ending.
* After the dark and action filled part II the next game will be about Ellie going back to the places she went to with Joel in part I with the game ending with Ellie finally coming to terms with Joel’s death and deciding to move on and also decides to try to make things right with Dina finally giving Ellie a happy ending.
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[[WMG: The events of Part II were just a dream all along.]]
* Ellie wakes up in Jackson and explains to Joel that she saw a vivid vision of the future, of some weird person named Abby. Alas, it was AllJustADream, and Joel teases Ellie for being so worried about things that didn't actually happen.
* Ellie wakes up in Jackson and explains to Joel that she saw a vivid vision of the future, of some weird person named Abby. Alas, it was AllJustADream, and Joel teases Ellie for being so worried about things that didn't actually happen.
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[[WMG: Tommy will feel awful about what he said in the farm]]
* After realising that he ruined (or nearly ruined as the ending doesn’t make it clear) Ellie and Dinas relationship he will show regret during his scenes in the third game and try to make things right.
* After realising that he ruined (or nearly ruined as the ending doesn’t make it clear) Ellie and Dinas relationship he will show regret during his scenes in the third game and try to make things right.
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[[WMG: We will find out there is no cure/there was never a cure]]
* We learned in the first one that the infection is caused by a fungal infection and that Ellie is immune. Once Ellie is at the firefly base they were going to crack open her head and examine her physical brain to find a cure. The thing is there are ways to examine the brain or examine brain/body/spinal fluid with out killing the subject. This means that the Firefly's believed they had narrowed it down to a physical structure in the brain. The problem is if Ellie is immune because of a physical feature in her brain, that can not be replicated, you can't develop a drug/treatment to physically change some one else's brain. This more then likely means there is no cure/will never be a cure. For further proof look at the second game, time has passed and from what we are shown the infected are dying off, and humanity is rebuilding. Not quickly or easily but with enough time more then likely eventually it will become manageable on its own to the point of, we think we see some growth that might lead to an infection outbreak, burn the area to the ground pre-emptively and then life goes on with no out break.
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** Seems likely. So far, the oldest infected seen have been bloaters and shamblers as well as the Rat King. Patient Zero, the first and truly oldest Infected that started Outbreak Day, started off as a basic Runner, going through each cycle over the years until perhaps it reached a BishonenLine where it could pass for human that commands the horde like a hive mind.
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[[WMG: Ellie was never going to hurt Lev]]
* While she did put a knife to his neck to get Abby to fight her it’s possible that Ellie was just bluffing especially since she could have just killed him right away to get Abby to fight her.
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[[WMG: I'm not saying Abby's eating the zombies but...]]
* The internet haters are asking how she can have that bod without a diet of supplements and cordyceps is a known protein supplement.
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This sounds so dumb now, haha
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* Furthermore, there might be an "unknown" scare in the trailer with the bad woman pointing her knife at Anna's stomach if she's pregnant with Ellie there.
