History WMG / SnowWhiteAndTheHuntsman

[[WMG: 'True Love's Kiss' worked with the Huntsman because [[spoiler: he was saying goodbye to his deceased wife as well as Snow White.]]]]

Though she will compare being tied to the castle to being imprisoned, [[TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask Snow White will do her duty]], so when trouble stirs, Snow White can't check it out herself. She ''is'' the [[LastOfHerKind sole surviving member of the royal line]]. Fortunately, [[QuestGiver she can delegate]]. The Huntsman has been hanging around the castle, starting to feel uncertain about whether he's worthy of the Queen; William is at court to represent his father, and he seems more proactive than the Duke, so he'd jump at the chance to [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy fight threats to Snow White's happiness]]. The dwarves would go off to rebuild, or at least preserve, their lost people, so they may show up partway through.

Given the way Theron aced the role they would be idiotic not to explore the character and her origins more. And a StartOfDarkness story is always amazing. Especially if the protagonist desperately tries to hold on her humanity but ultimately fails. The ForegoneConclusion would be so very poignant. Theron's portrayal is the one of the most sympathetic Evil Queens of Snow White and it would be a nice touch if they first showed her as an innocent girl NotSoDifferent from Snow White. But who did not have the strength to hold on on her goodness and inner beauty.

[[WMG: Alternately, it was the white deer's blessing of life that allowed Snow White to eventually recover (slowly) from the poison.]]

It would also explain KristenStewart's famous vacant gaze, (see DullSurprise, on her tropes page). I can't blame her for spending the whole movie in various states of shock, from seeing plants and sunlight and such ordinary things we take for granted for the first time in more than ten years, or a landscape completely devastated from when she was a child which she's seeing for the first time, to crazy supernatural phenomena trying to kill her, and surviving in the wilderness in a constant state of paranoia.

*** Except that, by the end of the movie, the pagans have been destroyed (Ravenna and crew), converted (the dwarves, though they may not count), or remain apart from the human/Christian majority (the forest spirits), indicating an at least comfortably dominant Christianity that allows paganism to exist because it's no longer a threat. Ravenna is a reminder that pagan forces can cause trouble if provoked, but pagan spirits helped get the new Queen crowned, so "all the good" was a generalized term to avoid offending said pagan forces while not directly acknowledging them as equal to God. [[note]]Note that this [=WMG=] is just for fun, not an attempt to argue that a Christian/pagan allegory existed in the movie. That's giving them entirely too much credit.[[/note]][[note]]Note also that the implication is that Christianity = decency and that an entire group of endemic religions is worthy of devastation and death. Christians are not well known for their tolerance towards non-abrahamic spiritualities, after all.[[/note]]

Before the movies, whenever he got too arrogant, his memory was erased and Mjolnir taken away. Prove himself, and he would come back to Asgard, better. There is [[Comics/TheMightyThor precedent.]]

[[WMG: The Huntsman is Film/Thor, being turned into a mortal as a lesson.]]

* Frankly I didn't read anything much romantic from William anyway, more old friend, whereas the Huntsman actually seemed romanticaly interested. Notice he does the occasional low key attempt at flirting with her and this never bothers William at all even though he's usually there when it happens.

*** Except that, by the end of the movie, the pagans have been destroyed (Ravenna and crew), converted (the dwarves, though they may not count), or remain apart from the human/Christian majority (the forest spirits), indicating an at least comfortably dominant Christianity that allows paganism to exist because it's no longer a threat. Ravenna is a reminder that pagan forces can cause trouble if provoked, but pagan spirits helped get the new Queen crowned, so "all the good" was a generalized term to avoid offending said pagan forces while not directly acknowledging them as equal to God. [[hottip:*:Note that this [=WMG=] is just for fun, not an attempt to argue that a Christian/pagan allegory existed in the movie. That's giving them entirely too much credit.]][[hottip:*:Note also that the implication is that Christianity = decency and that an entire group of endemic religions is worthy of devastation and death. Christians are not well known for their tolerance towards non-abrahamic spiritualities, after all.]]

* In fairness, the axe is a traditional tool/weapon hybrid, since "huntsman" and "woodsman" [[hottip:*:meaning ''"person who makes a living from the woods,"'' not ''"person who just cuts wood"'']] are often synonyms; an axe is useful for splitting wood and removing obstacles as well as for defending yourself while in the woods, usually against wild animals, without having to carry a separate tool ''and'' a separate weapon. In ''Little Red Riding Hood'', the titular girl is saved by a Huntsman wielding an axe, who is sometimes known as the Woodsman. Hunters didn't just use bows and arrows, and there are modern hunting axes today, though they're not meant for battle. Of course, it's likely that the dwarves ''did'' teach this particular Huntsman to fight, but his choice in weapon isn't necessarily an indicator.

*** Except that, by the end of the movie, the pagans have been destroyed (Ravenna and crew), converted (the dwarves, though they may not count), or remain apart from the human/Christian majority (the forest spirits), indicating an at least comfortably dominant Christianity that allows paganism to exist because it's no longer a threat. Ravenna is a reminder that pagan forces can cause trouble if provoked, but pagan spirits helped get the new Queen crowned, so "all the good" was a generalized term to avoid offending said pagan forces while not directly acknowledging them as equal to God. [[hottip:*:Note that this [=WMG=] is just for fun, not an attempt to argue that a Christian/pagan allegory existed in the movie. That's giving them entirely too much credit.]]

Doesn't really deal with why it ''didn't'' work with William, but since I didn't really see the movie as being about a love triangle I'm not too bothered? IDK, Tropers, share with me.

*** Except that, by the end of the movie, the pagans have been destroyed (Ravenna and crew), converted (the dwarves, though they may not count), or remain apart from the human/Christian majority (the forest spirits), indicating an at least comfortably dominant Christianity that allows paganism to exist because it's no longer a threat. Ravenna is a reminder that pagan forces can cause trouble if provoked, but pagan spirits helped get the new Queen crowned, so "all the good" was a generalized term to avoid offending said pagan forces while not directly acknowledging them as equal to God. [[hottip:*:Note that this [=WMG=] is just for fun, not an attempt to argue that a Christian/pagan allegory existed in the movie. That's giving them entirely too much credit.]][[hottip:Note also that the implication is that Christianity = decency and that an entire group of endemic religions is worthy of devastation and death. Christians are not well known for their tolerance towards non-abrahamic spiritualities, after all.]]

*** Except that, by the end of the movie, the pagans have been destroyed (Ravenna and crew), converted (the dwarves, though they may not count), or remain apart from the human/Christian majority (the forest spirits), indicating an at least comfortably dominant Christianity that allows paganism to exist because it's no longer a threat. Ravenna is a reminder that pagan forces can cause trouble if provoked, but pagan spirits helped get the new Queen crowned, so "all the good" was a generalized term to avoid offending said pagan forces while not directly acknowledging them as equal to God. [[hottip:*:Note that this [=WMG=] is just for fun, not an attempt to argue that a Christian/pagan allegory existed in the movie. That's giving them entirely too much credit.]]

[[WMG: 'True Love's Kiss' worked with the Huntsman because [[spoiler: he was saying goodbye to his deceased wife]].]]

* Also, the Snow Queen figure was duly genderswapped into the king that kidnapped them, with the shard being a 'happy' accident that likely occurred after the kidnapping. Instead of placing Ravenna in thrall, as happened with the boy in the original fairytale, it allowed her to turn against her captor; but the shard in her eye made her obsessed with the twisted "beauty" and "ugliness" that only she can see, and the shard in her heart turned her evil/sociopath.

[[WMG: Ravenna and Finn are alternate versions of the kids from TheSnowQueen.]]

* This would also explain her frankly appalling military choices (i.e. sending the Dwarves alone to open the gates, with absolutely no backup plan, meaning almost certain annihilation for her exclusively cavalry forces), not to mention her somewhat uninspiring speech, although YourMileageMayVary.

* This would also explain her frankly appalling military choices (i.e. sending the Dwarves alone to open the gates, with absolutely no backup plan, meaning almost certain annihilation for her exclusively cavalry forces), not to mention her somewhat uninspiring speech, although YourMileageMayVary

*** Except that, by the end of the movie, the pagans have been destroyed (Ravenna and crew), converted (the dwarves, though they may not count), or remain apart from the human/Christian majority (the forest spirits), indicating a victorious Christianity that allows bastions of paganism to exist because it's no longer a threat, unlike Ravenna's aggressive campaign. Not directly mentioning God is common in fiction, to avoid controversy, and the king from Ravenna's flashback could have been Christian or pagan, possibly similar to pre-Christian Scandinavia. [[hottip:*:Note that this [=WMG=] is just for fun, not an attempt to argue that a Christian/pagan allegory existed in the movie. That's giving them entirely too much credit.]]

* Though it seemed implied that the horse was courtesy of the sprites that came out of the birds, either placed there by said sprites or having been inhabited by a sprite. Plus, from what the dwarves said), it seems unlikely that such a spirit would risk itself so far from its forest, especially given the state of the outside world.

Only in this version the girl got the shard in her eye and the boy was unable to get it out and make her care again. Eventually he joined her.

This will never be canon, but I like the theory. Basically, Snow White is polyamorous and in love with both men. So, in order to wake, BOTH her loves needed to kiss her.