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At some point, for some reason, Suitengu is reborn into the world as Kimimaro. He is unaware of his past life, but nevertheless goes on his journey into the Financial District and meets Msyu, Mikuni, and the others. However, when Mikuni puts his plan into action, Kimimaro and his allies rise up to stop him. In the end, [[spoiler:Artlier/Suitengu/Kimimaro finishes what he started, and bankrupts Japan for good, hopefully destroying the conspiracy for real this time. And [[KnightTemplar all it took was]] him [[MoralEventHorizon ruining billions of innocent lives]] ''three'' times. [[DestructiveSavior Way to go, you so-called hero]]]].

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At some point, for some reason, Suitengu is reborn into the world as Kimimaro. He is unaware of his past life, but nevertheless goes on his journey into the Financial District and meets Msyu, Mikuni, and the others. However, when Mikuni puts his plan into action, Kimimaro and his allies rise up to stop him. In the end, [[spoiler:Artlier/Suitengu/Kimimaro finishes what he started, and bankrupts Japan for good, hopefully destroying the conspiracy for real this time. And [[KnightTemplar all it took was]] him [[MoralEventHorizon ruining billions of innocent lives]] ''three'' times. Way to go, [[DestructiveSavior Way to go, you so-called hero]]]].
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Unfortunately for him, [[spoiler:the organization known as [[LoanShark Midas Bank]] then steps in and fixes Japan’s economy- using their Midas Money, which has the powers of a RealityWarper. The [[HumanoidAbomination Magasakis]] create the Financial District and battling system to see how to distribute the money. The GovernmentConspiracy, thanks to the Midas Money system, is kept running (and the Magasakis may have even been the creators of the conspiracy)]].

At some point, for some reason, Suitengu is reborn into the world as Kimimaro. He is unaware of his past life, but nevertheless goes on his journey into the Financial District and meets Msyu, Mikuni, and the others. However, when Mikuni puts his plan into action, Kimimaro and his allies rise up to stop him. In the end, [[spoiler:Artlier/Suitengu/Kimimaro finishes what he started, and bankrupts Japan for good, hopefully destroying the conspiracy for real this time. And [[KnightTemplar all it took was]] him [[MoralEventHorizon ruining billions of innocent lives]] ''three'' times]].

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Unfortunately for him, [[spoiler:the organization known as [[LoanShark Midas Bank]] then steps in and fixes Japan’s economy- using their Midas Money, which has the powers of a RealityWarper. The [[HumanoidAbomination Magasakis]] create the Financial District and battling system to see how to distribute the money. The GovernmentConspiracy, thanks to the Midas Money system, is kept running (and the Magasakis may have even been the creators of the conspiracy, assuming Midas Bank is not itself the conspiracy)]].

At some point, for some reason, Suitengu is reborn into the world as Kimimaro. He is unaware of his past life, but nevertheless goes on his journey into the Financial District and meets Msyu, Mikuni, and the others. However, when Mikuni puts his plan into action, Kimimaro and his allies rise up to stop him. In the end, [[spoiler:Artlier/Suitengu/Kimimaro finishes what he started, and bankrupts Japan for good, hopefully destroying the conspiracy for real this time. And [[KnightTemplar all it took was]] him [[MoralEventHorizon ruining billions of innocent lives]] ''three'' times]].times. [[DestructiveSavior Way to go, you so-called hero]]]].

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[[WMG: The entire thing takes place in the ''Series/{{Leverage}}'' universe]]

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[[WMG: The entire thing takes place in the ''Series/{{Leverage}}'' universe]]universe.]]



[[WMG: Artlier goes on to become [[Anime/SpeedGrapher Chouji Suitengu]].]]
[[spoiler:Ted Miyagi]] is merely another alias. After the Liar Game failed in its purpose [[spoiler:because the government shut down the video]], he decides to gain great wealth and accomplish his plan another way- by [[GoldDigger marrying a powerful rich woman]] and [[spoiler:seizing control of her business]]. From there, he [[spoiler:masterminds and [[TheBadGuyWins ultimately succeeds]] in a plan to destroy the Japanese economy, which will eventually bring down the GovernmentConspiracy with it- and he also kills Prime Minister Kamiya, the man who ordered the Liar Game to be censored in the first place]].

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[[WMG: Artlier goes on to become [[Anime/SpeedGrapher Chouji Suitengu]].Suitengu]], and after death is reincarnated as [[Anime/CControl Kimimaro Yoga]].]]
All three of them [[spoiler:harm large amounts of innocent people (and in the case of Chouji and Yoga, bankrupt Japan) [[WellIntentionedExtremist to take down a corrupt organization]], and are (to an extent) treated as heroes for it]].

[[spoiler:Ted Miyagi]] is was merely another alias.alias of [[spoiler:Ueno Takashi]]. With [[spoiler:the death of his parents]], he [[spoiler:set out to become a movie director and reveal the truth about the GovernmentConspiracy that victimized him]]. After the Liar Game failed in its purpose [[spoiler:because the government shut down the video]], he decides to gain great wealth and accomplish his plan another way- by [[GoldDigger marrying a powerful rich woman]] and [[spoiler:seizing control of her business]]. From there, he [[spoiler:masterminds and [[TheBadGuyWins ultimately succeeds]] in a plan to destroy the Japanese economy, which will eventually bring down the GovernmentConspiracy with it- and he also kills Prime Minister Kamiya, the man who ordered the Liar Game to be censored in the first place]].place. This sends the world into a mass panic]].

Unfortunately for him, [[spoiler:the organization known as [[LoanShark Midas Bank]] then steps in and fixes Japan’s economy- using their Midas Money, which has the powers of a RealityWarper. The [[HumanoidAbomination Magasakis]] create the Financial District and battling system to see how to distribute the money. The GovernmentConspiracy, thanks to the Midas Money system, is kept running (and the Magasakis may have even been the creators of the conspiracy)]].

At some point, for some reason, Suitengu is reborn into the world as Kimimaro. He is unaware of his past life, but nevertheless goes on his journey into the Financial District and meets Msyu, Mikuni, and the others. However, when Mikuni puts his plan into action, Kimimaro and his allies rise up to stop him. In the end, [[spoiler:Artlier/Suitengu/Kimimaro finishes what he started, and bankrupts Japan for good, hopefully destroying the conspiracy for real this time. And [[KnightTemplar all it took was]] him [[MoralEventHorizon ruining billions of innocent lives]] ''three'' times]].
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[[WMG: Artlier/[[spoiler:Tad Miyagi]] goes on to become [[Anime/SpeedGrapher Chouji Suitengu]].]]
After the Liar Game failed in it’s purpose [[spoiler:because the government shut down the video]], he decides to gain great wealth and accomplish his plan another way- by [[GoldDigger marrying a powerful rich woman]] and [[spoiler:seizing control of her business]]. From there, he [[spoiler:masterminds and [[TheBadGuyWins ultimately succeeds]] in a plan to destroy the Japanese economy, which will eventually bring down the GovernmentConspiracy with it- and he also kills Prime Minister Kamiya, the man who ordered the Liar Game to be censored in the first place]].

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[[WMG: Artlier/[[spoiler:Tad Miyagi]] Artlier goes on to become [[Anime/SpeedGrapher Chouji Suitengu]].]]
[[spoiler:Ted Miyagi]] is merely another alias. After the Liar Game failed in it’s its purpose [[spoiler:because the government shut down the video]], he decides to gain great wealth and accomplish his plan another way- by [[GoldDigger marrying a powerful rich woman]] and [[spoiler:seizing control of her business]]. From there, he [[spoiler:masterminds and [[TheBadGuyWins ultimately succeeds]] in a plan to destroy the Japanese economy, which will eventually bring down the GovernmentConspiracy with it- and he also kills Prime Minister Kamiya, the man who ordered the Liar Game to be censored in the first place]].

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But on NAO. And not only that: The feeling was mutual!

When she knew that Fukunaga would playing in the Liar's Game Tournament, she started [[SheCleansUpNicely to wear dresses, heels and make-up]]. She didn't wore that in the first games, and of course, Nao is always asking about Fukunaga. [[spoiler:The final scene in the manga show her with Fukunaga watching their "movie", and they only phoned Akiyama. The girls were closer, while Akiyama was just a friend.]]

[[WMG: About the plot of the upcoming pandemic game:]]
Most of the previous games have had an obvious theme and a more subtle "real theme". Minority rule seemed to be about psychology and guessing how people will vote, but it was actually about using teamwork to eliminate psychology from the equation. Contraband seemed to be about out-guessing your opponent, but was actually about loyalty, the interests of the individual versus those of the team. The fourth round seems to be about convincing people that you're normal so they'll make contact with you, but it will actually turn out to be about sacrifice.

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But on NAO.[[LesYay NAO]]. And not only that: The feeling was mutual!

When she knew that Fukunaga would playing in the Liar's Liar Game Tournament, she started [[SheCleansUpNicely to wear dresses, heels and make-up]]. She didn't wore that in the first games, and of course, Nao is always asking about Fukunaga. [[spoiler:The final scene in the manga show her with Fukunaga watching their "movie", and they only phoned Akiyama. The girls were closer, while Akiyama was just a friend.]]

[[WMG: About the plot of the upcoming pandemic Pandemic game:]]
Most of the previous games have had an obvious theme and a more subtle [[HiddenPurposeTest "real theme". theme"]]. Minority rule Rule seemed to be about psychology and guessing how people will vote, but it was actually about using teamwork to eliminate psychology from the equation. Contraband seemed to be about out-guessing your opponent, but was actually about loyalty, the interests of the individual versus those of the team. The fourth round seems to be about convincing people that you're normal so they'll make contact with you, but it will actually turn out to be about sacrifice.



* It's the money they LGT takes in from rich jackoffs that bet on the game. The whole thing is a more mean-spirited rat race or less intense (somewhat) version of a DeadlyGame. Of course, if that plot twist shows up, it kind of negates the whole idea that anyone can take down the LGT, because they're making money even if everyone DOES end up freed with one person assuming all the debt.
** Proven incorrect in the final chapter. The money comes from a big government payoff intended for suppression and they had no intention of ever actually making money from the current Liar Game.

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* It's the money they the LGT takes in from rich jackoffs that bet on the game. The whole thing is a more mean-spirited rat race or less intense (somewhat) version of a DeadlyGame. Of course, if that plot twist shows up, it kind of negates the whole idea that anyone can take down the LGT, because they're making money even if everyone DOES end up freed with one person assuming all the debt.
** [[spoiler:[[{{Jossed}} Proven incorrect incorrect]] in the final chapter. The money comes from a big government payoff intended for suppression and [[MotiveMisidentification they had no intention of of]] [[GoodAllAlong ever actually making money from the current Liar Game.
Game]].]]



* I love this theory but I just want to poke this pin into it: why would Akiyama choose Nao? Unless there's more dramatic past building than Roots of A presents, it seems a bit odd that Akiyama would pick Nao. It seems highly unlikely that if Akiyama did pick Nao based on that scene in Roots of A. It seems funny to me that a university student would take interest in a passer-by middle school student who was returning a whatever yen coin to the police. [I have only read up to the "musical chairs" arc so I apologise if my reasoning is irrelevent or already jossed.]

[[WMG:The logical conclusion of the series will be a one-on-one between Akiyama and Nao]]

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* I love this theory but I just want to poke this pin into it: why would Akiyama choose Nao? Unless there's more dramatic past building than [[Manga/LiarGameRootsOfA Roots of A A]] presents, it seems a bit odd that Akiyama would pick Nao. It seems highly unlikely that if Akiyama did pick Nao based on that scene in Roots of A. It seems funny to me that a university student would take interest in a passer-by middle school student who was returning a whatever yen coin to the police. [I have only read up to the "musical chairs" arc so I apologise if my reasoning is irrelevent or already jossed.]

[[WMG:The logical conclusion of the series will be a one-on-one between Akiyama and Nao]]Nao.]]



** As it stands (as of Chapter 184) the final round is a contest between four teams with four people each. Akiyama is in one group, while Nao ended up in Yokoya's group for the sole purpose of Yokoya preventing Nao from being on Akiyama's team. Not "one on one", but it's close...I guess.

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** As it stands (as of Chapter 184) the final round is a contest between four teams with four people each. Akiyama [[spoiler:Akiyama is in one group, while Nao ended up in Yokoya's group for the sole purpose of Yokoya preventing Nao from being on Akiyama's team. Not "one on one", but it's close...I guess.
guess.]]



[[WMG:Akiyama vs Nao Vs Fukunaga]]

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[[WMG:Akiyama vs Nao Vs vs Fukunaga]]



* Kaori from chapter 3 may be the female employee of LGT office that delivers information to Yokoya.
* Fukunaga in chapter 4 (dressed as a woman)

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* Kaori from chapter 3 may be the female employee of the LGT office that delivers information to Yokoya.
* Fukunaga in chapter 4 (dressed as a woman)woman).




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** [[spoiler:Jossed. He is movie director Tad Miyagi. Though he did want to prove RousseauWasRight.]]



* It'll all turn out to have been an extremely convoluted RealityShow, which is why the "hosts" of the game are always serving as a CombatCommentator when talking to one another.

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* It'll all turn out to have been an extremely convoluted RealityShow, ImmoralRealityShow, which is why the "hosts" of the game are always serving as a CombatCommentator when talking to one another.



Yokoya thinks he's seen through the facade and wants to peel off the mask. He'll be very, very surprised when Nao drops TheMasquerade (of naivete, not of her kindness) and cheerfully destroys him...and then turns around and offers to take up his debts, in exchange for a deal he can't refuse.

[[WMG: The 10 billion yen reward for uncovering LGT's dishonesty is a ChekhovsGun that will come into play during the final round]]

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Yokoya thinks he's seen through the facade and wants to peel off the mask. He'll be very, very surprised when Nao drops TheMasquerade (of naivete, not of her kindness) and cheerfully destroys him...and then turns around and offers to take up his debts, in exchange for [[AnOfferYouCantRefuse a deal he can't refuse.

refuse]].

[[WMG: The 10 billion yen reward for uncovering LGT's dishonesty is a ChekhovsGun that will come into play during the final round]]round.]]



** It doesn't come up again.

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** Jossed. It doesn't come up again.



[[WMG: Akiyama's mother is not dead and works for the LGT Office]]
We know Akiyama is a genius, right? He had to [[LamarckWasRight get his wits somewhere]]. Perhaps Akiyama's mother tricked everyone into thinking she was dead, and for unknown reasons joined the LGT Office (maybe the insurance company was aligned with the LGT Office?). Perhaps she is the officer of the Pandemic game and delivers tournament information to Yokoya. She also resembles Nao with the hairstyle. Since Akiyama knows that Nao resembles his mother, this could be powerful evidence.
** Untrue, as shown when the veil of the LGT comes down.


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[[WMG: Akiyama's mother is not dead and works for the LGT Office]]
Office.]]
We know Akiyama is a genius, right? He had to [[LamarckWasRight get his wits somewhere]]. Perhaps Akiyama's mother tricked everyone into thinking she was dead, and for unknown reasons joined the LGT Office (maybe the insurance company was aligned with the LGT Office?).Office). Perhaps she is the officer of the Pandemic game and delivers tournament information to Yokoya. She also resembles Nao with the hairstyle. Since Akiyama knows that Nao resembles his mother, this could be powerful evidence.
** Untrue, [[{{Jossed}} Untrue]], as shown when the veil of the LGT comes down.





** The Lawyer never comes up after Nao is sent to the final game.

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\n** Jossed. The Lawyer never comes up after Nao is sent to the final game.







** Nope, was just an extreme coincidence.

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\n** Nope, [[{{Jossed}} Nope]], was just an extreme coincidence.




** They don't make any money at all as it's not their goal.

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\n** They [[spoiler:They don't make any money at all as [[GoodAllAlong it's not their goal.
goal]].]]



[[WMG: Yokoya had something to do with [[spoiler: the video being taken down at the end of the series.]]]]

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[[WMG: Yokoya [[HijackedByGanon had something to do with with]] [[spoiler: the video being taken down at the end of the series.]]]]


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[[WMG: Artlier/[[spoiler:Tad Miyagi]] goes on to become [[Anime/SpeedGrapher Chouji Suitengu]].]]
After the Liar Game failed in it’s purpose [[spoiler:because the government shut down the video]], he decides to gain great wealth and accomplish his plan another way- by [[GoldDigger marrying a powerful rich woman]] and [[spoiler:seizing control of her business]]. From there, he [[spoiler:masterminds and [[TheBadGuyWins ultimately succeeds]] in a plan to destroy the Japanese economy, which will eventually bring down the GovernmentConspiracy with it- and he also kills Prime Minister Kamiya, the man who ordered the Liar Game to be censored in the first place]].

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But on NAO. And not only that: The feeling was mutual. Since she knew that Fukunaga would keep on the game, she started to wear dresses, heels and such. She didn't wore that in the first games, and of course, Nao is always asking about Fukunaga. [[spoiler:The final scene show her with Fukunaga, and in the end, she did phone Akiyama. The girls were closer.]]

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But on NAO. And not only that: The feeling was mutual. Since mutual!

When
she knew that Fukunaga would keep on playing in the game, Liar's Game Tournament, she started [[SheCleansUpNicely to wear dresses, heels and such.make-up]]. She didn't wore that in the first games, and of course, Nao is always asking about Fukunaga. [[spoiler:The final scene in the manga show her with Fukunaga, Fukunaga watching their "movie", and in the end, she did phone they only phoned Akiyama. The girls were closer.closer, while Akiyama was just a friend.]]

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** Proven incorrect in the final chapter. The money comes from a big government payoff intended for suppression and they had no intention of ever actually making money from the current Liar Game.




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** It doesn't come up again.




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** True to a point. They indeed aren't making any money as they aren't actively forcing the debts to be paid. However, Asaka is not involved in any capacity and the money fueling the Liar Game comes from a completely different source.





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\n** Untrue, as shown when the veil of the LGT comes down.




** Two of the three are correct. The Eliminated People do not sit on chairs though as it wouldn't help sitting on teammates' chairs, and they'd have to find the opponent's chairs (and if they could do that, they wouldn't need the eliminated people to sit on them and would just take it outright or eliminate it at the first opportunity).




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** He is a Nao Fanboy, but no bet was involved.


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** The Lawyer never comes up after Nao is sent to the final game.


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** This one's a bit tricky to break down. Well Yokoya was uninvolved as the Third Revival Round split up the contestants into two groups due to the excess size. Yokoya and Fukunaga got separated of. Ultimately though, Team Nao/Akiyama and Team Harimoto are absolutely at odds, despite Nao's usual attempts at cooperation but then thanks to Nao's optimism, Harimoto and Abe relent.


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** Nope, was just an extreme coincidence.


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** They don't make any money at all as it's not their goal.


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** While not the specific goal, this theory is actually not too far off the mark.
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* It's the money they LGT takes in from rich jackoffs that bet on the game. The whole thing is a more mean-spirited RatRace or less intense (somewhat) version of a DeadlyGame. Of course, if that plot twist shows up, it kind of negates the whole idea that anyone can take down the LGT, because they're making money even if everyone DOES end up freed with one person assuming all the debt.

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* It's the money they LGT takes in from rich jackoffs that bet on the game. The whole thing is a more mean-spirited RatRace rat race or less intense (somewhat) version of a DeadlyGame. Of course, if that plot twist shows up, it kind of negates the whole idea that anyone can take down the LGT, because they're making money even if everyone DOES end up freed with one person assuming all the debt.



Related to the RatRace WMG above. Whenever Leronira is shown, he's usually rooting for Nao and/or Akiyama. This is because he placed a large bet on them. Most likely, he placed his bet on Nao because everyone else believed she'd lose. Therefore, the betting odds would be stacked against Nao, so anyone who bet on her can win a ton of money if she wins. Leronira will then use his winnings to help all the players who lost and are in debt because he's a Nao FanBoy.

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Related to the RatRace rat race WMG above. Whenever Leronira is shown, he's usually rooting for Nao and/or Akiyama. This is because he placed a large bet on them. Most likely, he placed his bet on Nao because everyone else believed she'd lose. Therefore, the betting odds would be stacked against Nao, so anyone who bet on her can win a ton of money if she wins. Leronira will then use his winnings to help all the players who lost and are in debt because he's a Nao FanBoy.

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