History WMG / KaitouSentaiLupinrangerVsKeisatsuSentaiPatoranger

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[[WMG: Regarding the trademarks that Toei has filed for ''Kyuranger'''s successor]]
[[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2017-09-26/toei-files-trademarks-for-keisatsu-sentai-patoranger-kaito-sentai-lupinranger/.121863 Toei has filed trademarks for 2 Sentai series]], as opposed to just one. Considering that they were filed around the time we would normally see them file the trademark for the next sentai, it's likely that at least one of them is the next series. We might as well speculate on possibilities here:
* Possibility one: It's one show that follows 2 separate teams, alternating between the two teams it focuses on before they eventually join up.
** Supporting this: The existence of the Gouraigers, Go-On Wings, and other secondary Sentai teams.
** Against this: The aforementioned two teams did not follow the traditional Sentai naming formula.
* Possibility two: Each trademark will be for it's own show - either one airs on TV and the other airs as a web series (similar to ''Akibaranger'' airing it's two seasons during the run of ''Gobusters'' and ''Kyoryuger'', respectively), or there are 2 Sentai series airing at the same time.
** Supporting this: Toei is no stranger to having 2 toku shows in the same franchise air at the same time (aside from the aforementioned ''Gobusters''/''Kyoryuger'' and ''Akibaranger'' scenario, ''Series/KamenRiderAmazons'' aired it's two seasons during the run of ''Series/KamenRiderGhost'' and ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'', respectively).
** Against this: The trademarks were filed at the same time; ''Akibaranger'' and ''Amazons'' were not trademarked at the same time that ''Gobusters'' and ''Ghost'' were trademarked.
* Possibility three: The Patorangers will be the Sentai team, and the Lupinrangers will be ThePsychoRangers (or vice-versa)[[note]]the two names when translated properly are Police Sentai Patrolranger and Phantom Thief Sentai Lupinranger, which suggest that the two teams will be themed around cops and robbers respectively[[/note]].
** Supporting this: As noted by a WMG above, it's been a very long time since there has been a Psycho Rangers arc, so maybe Toei wants to make an entire season of this.
** Against this: On the other hand, it has been a long time since they did this, so there is very little precedence.
* Possibility four: One of the trademarks was only filed to keep people from guessing, or to prevent someone using one of the trademarked names.
** Supporting this: Companies do this sort of thing all the time (for example, Nintendo filed trademarks for [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Pokemon Grey]] and [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Pokemon Z]], games that were not released).
** Against this: Toei would have filed said trademark earlier in ''Kyuranger'''s run earlier if this was the case.
* Possibility five: One of the teams is official, the other will be an alternate universe team shown in a V-Cinema akin to [[Film/TokumeiSentaiGobustersReturnsVsDobutsuSentaiGobusters the Dobutsu Sentai Gobusters]].
** Supporting this: Assuming the psycho rangers WMG is false, the Lupinrangers could be an alternate version of the Patorangers who became criminals instead of cops.
** Against this: There was no such trademark filed for the Dobutsu Sentai Gobusters when the trademark for the regular Gobusters was filed.
* Possibility six: The Patorangers and the Lupinrangers are the exact same team. The Patorangers are police officers who, when they are blocked in an investigation or are similarly prevented from pursuing a case, disguise themselves as the Lupinrangers to get around the obstacle and continue their work.
* '''Final Answer''': The two teams are collecting back the MacGuffin that originally belonged to Lupinranger, each having different plans for the MacGuffin.

[[WMG: The 42nd Sentai series will either reuse a previous theme that's been used once before, or use an entirely new theme]]
* All the themes that have been used more than twice have been used relatively recently (Dinosaurs, Ninjas, Vehicles, and Animals), so it would make sense for Toei to either try a brand new theme (i.e., insects[[note]]As in an entire team, not a pair like the [[Series/NinpuuSentaiHurricaneger Gouraigers]][[/note]], chess pieces, periods of history) or use one that has been used one time (i.e., [[Series/ChoujinSentaiJetman birds]], [[Series/SamuraiSentaiShinkenger samurai]], [[Series/TokusouSentaiDekaranger police]]).
** Confirmed for both actually: Introducing "Kaitou Sentai Lupinranger VS Keisatsu Sentai Patoranger" first is a Phantom Thieves themed, the second one is Police themed. Together, their theme is CopsAndRobbers.

[[WMG: Tying into the above WMG about the 42nd sentai, the 42nd sentai will be a magic themed team which has a large number of similarities with ''Gobusters'']]
My reason for thinking this is twofold.
* The reason for the similarities with ''Gobusters'' is because every post-''Kyoryuger'' team has had similarities with the Sentai from 6 years ago - ''Toqger'' had a lot in common with ''Go-Onger'', ''Ninninger'' had a lot in common with ''Shinkenger'', ''Zyuohger'' had a lot in common with ''Goseiger'' and the currently airing ''Kyuranger'' has a lot in common with ''Gokaiger''. Logically speaking, continuing this trend would mean that the next series would have a lot in common with ''Gobusters''.
* As for the magic theme, the theme has only been used once before, and additionally, starting with ''Zyuohger'', the theme of the next Sentai is the same as the second Series/SuperHeroTime partner of the Sentai series it has shared elements of - ''Goseiger'' had ''Series/KamenRiderOOO'' as it's second SHT partner, and ''OOO'' had an animal theme to it, which was the theme of ''Zyuohger''; and ''Gokaiger'''s second SHT partner was ''Series/KamenRiderFourze'', which had a space theme, the theme of ''Kyuranger''. The second SHT partner of ''Gobusters'' was ''Series/KamenRiderWizard'', which had a magic theme to it. And as noted before, that theme has been used once - in ''Magiranger''.
* Adding onto this, it will have an emphasis on {{Magitek}} where the setting use magic to advance their technologies. This will be reflected on the rangers' mecha, where there are hybrids or mythical animals and vehicles.
** Using {{Magitek}} would actually make a lot of sense - [[StrictlyFormula traditionally]], the series that comes after the "Experimental" Sentai (''Hurricanger'', ''Gekiranger'', ''Gobusters'', ''Kyuranger'') is the "Wacky Stuff" Sentai (''Abaranger'', ''[=Go-Onger=]'', ''Kyoryuger''), so having magic in the same vein as ''Magiranger'' would break that pattern (as ''Magiranger'' was a "Fantasy" Sentai). Additionally, having a magitek-based Sentai would make it a lot easier for the show to avoid direct comparisons with the aforementioned ''Magiranger'', similar to how ''[=ToQger=]'''s train theme helped it avoid getting directly compared to ''[=Go-Onger=]'' and ''[=Carranger=]'', despite it being relatively comedic like those shows. Additionally, having a mythical theme in the same vein as ''Changeman'' is long overdue (the Skick tribe not withstanding).

[[WMG:Color schemes for the 42nd entry.]]
Patoranger uses primary colors (red, blue and yellow) while Lupinranger uses secondary colors (green, orange and violet).
* Maybe for the 6th ranger(s), they'll use pink[[note]]of the colors you've mentioned, pink is the only one that's a staple on the core team that isn't present[[/note]] and other colors that are reserved for 6th (gold, silver).
** Confirmed to be the reverse: Lupinrangers are Red, Blue and Yellow while the Patorangers are Red, Green and Pink.

[[WMG:If the red ranger in the 42nd entry can alternate between being a Lupinranger and Patoranger, then so can blue.]]
The toy scan shows that an additional mecha for Patoranger is a police bike, implying that [=PatorenYongo=] may be added to the team as a blue ranger.\\
The same cannot be said for green ranger, however; while Lupinranger has a forth mecha too, it is brightly-shaded green compared to its Patoranger counterpart. This implies that instead of [=PatorenNigo=] gaining a Lupinranger mode, there will be another civilian close to him who becomes [=LupinGreen=] (perhaps another female given the shade of green used).

[[WMG: We'll see a third trio based on the sea]]
The team role calls in the plot summary emphasize that the Lupinrangers are sky based and the Patorrangers are ground based. It'd only make sense for a third trio to be sea based.
* Alternatively, it'll be a duo that's sea-based, and there will be single SixthRanger (or in this case, ninth ranger) who is based on something else (maybe space perhaps?).

[[WMG: Main writer guesses for Lupinranger VS Patoranger]]

* Yasuko Kobayashi
* Riku Sanjou
* Toshiki Inoue
* Naruhisa Arakawa
* Nobuhiro Mouri
* Sumiko Umeda
* Gen Urobuchi
* Yuya Takahasi
* Shouji Yonemura
** All jossed - Junko Komura, head writer of ''Series/DobutsuSentaiZyuohger'', is returning to write the series.

[[WMG: The teams will be forced into more than one EnemyMine situation at one point]]
Come on, it's pretty much begging to happen since the two teams have their own mechs; I kind of doubt that either team has the ability to hijack each other's mechs, meaning that an EnemyMine is the most likely scenario that we see the mechs combine (especially since both mechs have "Kaizer" in the title).

[[WMG:The Lupinrangers will pull off a heist inside the Patorangers base.]]
Several episodes will end with the Patorangers obtaining Lupin Collection artifacts until one episode has the Lupinrangers perform a heist on their base, stealing all the artifacts they collected. Or a twist will happen and a monster is attacking the city while the Lupinrangers are about to succeed, leading them to leave the Lupin Collection behind to protect the city instead.

[[WMG:A Lupinranger and Patoranger will befriend each other]]
Early on, one of the Lupinrangers and one of the Patorrangers will become friends (most likely the girls) and obviously not know each other's identity. A situation will occur when one team will reveal themselves to the other, figuring out who the other are, allowing for drama on who they thought their friend was.
* Alternatively, the two will realize that they are NotSoDifferent, leading to them trying to get their teams to join together.

[[WMG: The season will be LighterAndSofter overall]]
Aside from the fact that, [[StrictlyFormula as per Sentai traditions]], we're on the "Wacky Stuff" season, both ''Zyuohger'' and ''Kyuranger'' were darker than normal. At the very least, it'll be more lighthearted than the past 2 seasons.
* The head writer, Junko Komura, wrote the aforementioned ''Zyuohger'', but she also wrote ''Series/HikoninSentaiAkibaranger'', which was an AffectionateParody, so at this point, anything goes.

[[WMG: Each team will have a separate song for either the opening or ending...]]
On Lupinranger episodes, the Lupinranger opening/ending song will play and the same for Patoranger episodes. When the teams inevitably work together permanently, the opening/ending song will change to include both teams. Another possibility is that its the same song but different verses plays depending on which team is the focus of the episode.
* The different verse one seems more likely for the opening; as for the ending, I get the feeling it'll be more likely that it'll be shared between the two teams, but the visuals will be different each time.

[[WMG: The Patoranger's boss will propose [[RecruitingTheCriminal recruiting the Lupinrangers]]...]]
The Patorangers will capture the Lupinrangers but their boss realizes that the only chance they have of defeating the Gangler is if they work together with the Lupinrangers. He will then propose that the Lupinrangers offer their help in exchange for their freedom or other reward, causing both teams to yell out of surprise.

[[WMG: The [[SixthRanger extra hero(es)]] will alternate between the two teams]]
Since it's pretty likely that the Patorangers Lupinrangers will be forced into an EnemyMine a few times before joining forces in the long run later on, it would make sense for the team's extra rangers/heroes to alternate between the two teams, in an attempt to get them on the same side - possibly alternating between power sets.

[[WMG:Both sentai teams will eventually grow into a FiveManBand, but both will subvert the RBYGP color team.]]
Patorangers' fifth member will not be the yellow ranger. Instead, (s)he will be orange. The fifth Lupinranger, instead of being pink, will be violet instead.

[[WMG: There will be a crossover with [[Series/TokusouSentaiDekaranger Dekaranger]] in the future.]]
Given how Toei's brought back the Dekarangers for various specials and crossovers (10 Years After, Vs. Gavan, etc.) in recent years, it only makes sense for them to bring them back once more, especially since one of the teams is police-based.
* While we're at it, we might as well throw in [[Series/KamenRiderDecade DiEnd]][[note]]whose name is Daiki ''Kaito'' - yes, different spelling, but still[[/note]].

[[WMG:There will be a crossover with four or more teams...]]
...allying with either Lupinranger (like say Boukenger and Gokaiger) or Patoranger (Dekaranger, Shinkenger, Go-Busters), turning the whole thing into Toei's ComicBook/CivilWar.
* One possibility is that since ''Kyuranger'' is almost over and no "''Kyuranger'' vs ''Zyuohger''" has been announced, the crossover between ''Kyuranger'' and ''Zyuohger'' gets combined with this, with the Kyurangers taking the Lupinrangers side and the Zyuohgers taking the side of the Lupinrangers (or vice-versa), leading to a 2 vs 2 clash before the 4 teams eventually team up.

[[WMG: A third faction of rangers will appear based on Private Detectives.]]
A perfect foil for both teams, PDs still operate within the law, but do so in far more gray means then proper officers. Hence they will have cause to be at odds with both the Pats, and Lupin.
* For extra points, it’ll be a two man team consisting of a black and a white (the colors stereotypically worn by prisoners, and the two colors that when mixed, make gray). Considering that those two are the only colors usually seen on the core team that aren't represented, it would make sense.

[[WMG: This is essentially Super Sentai's version of ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''...]]
...thanks in part to the CopsAndRobbers theme.

[[WMG:In the Crossover with [[Series/KamenRiderBuild Build]]...]]
...Pandora's Box or the Full Bottles will be mistaken as part of the Lupin Collection.
* Additionally, the gag where one character sees one of the giant robot, only for another character to not believe them, will be repeated twice - first with the heroes (Misora and Ryuga, possibly), where it's played straight (using the Patoranger mecha), and the second time with the villains (possibly using Gentoku and Nanba), except this time, the other character sees the Lupinranger mecha.

[[WMG: Lupin Red and Patoren Ichigo’s personalities...]]
Lupin Red will have a personality like Captain Marvelous’s, a charismatic and cool leader, while Patoren Ichigo will be a serious character with a strong sense of justice. They will hate each other at first, both as rangers and civilians, until they become VitriolicBestBuds after the teams join up permanently.

[[WMG: The [[SixthRanger fourth]] Patoranger will be DaChief, whereas the fourth Lupinranger will be a Robin Hood {{Expy}}]]
Assuming that [=PatorenIchigo=] isn't DaChief, it's very likely that this will happen, considering that it's what happened in ''Dekaranger''. As for the Sixth in Lupinranger, the team's title already references one famous thief, so why not reference another?
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[[WMG:The Lupinrangers will be lumped together with the Gangler]]
The Patorangers will consider the Lupinrangers to be a part of the Gangler until the Lupinrangers prove that their heroic criminals.
[[WMG:One of the higher up Gangler associates will purposefully rile up the two Sentai teams.]]
If only to make their job of taking the Lupin Collection easier.

[[WMG:The Gangler monster will have gang/criminals themes.]]
Like Yakuza, Al Capone, and such. They’ll be based on terrible criminals throughout history, in contrast to the Lupinranger’s who are criminals but still heroes.

[[WMG:The Gangler will be the sea to Lupinrangers' sky and Patorangers' land.]]
They'll be based on pirates that steals treasures.
* It's right in their name: Gangler = gang + ''angler'', i.e. fishing.

[[WMG:The major villains will be voiced by the cast of ''Anime/LupinIII''.]]
It's way too good of an opportunity to miss out on. Plus, Japanese voice actors from other police and crime anime (e.g. ''Manga/DetectiveConan'') could guest star as MonstersOfTheWeek.

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[[WMG: This will NOT be adapted into a ''Power Rangers'' season]]
Because maybe Saban wouldn't like the "Hexagon"-style concept of this ''Super Sentai'' incarnation[[note]]"Hexagon" was Amit Bhaumik's pitch for the adaptation of ''Series/NinpuuSentaiHurricaneger'', which eventually became ''Series/PowerRangersNinjaStorm''[[/note]]; instead, they'd be better off retiring the ''Power Rangers'' franchise for good at the end of 2018.
* Other reason to see Nickelodeon pass on this is because the execs will think cops and robbers equals violence, thieves make bad role models, and the Lupin homages (both the Maurice Leblanc and Monkey Punch incarnations) will go over the target audiences heads.
* There's also the fact that after ''Megaforce'', Saban has skipped all even numbered Sentai, meaning once the ''Kyuranger'' adaptation finishes, they're probably going to skip straight to 43.

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* One possibility is that since ''Kyuranger'' is almost over, the crossover between ''Kyuranger'' and ''Zyuohger'' gets combined with this, leading to a 2 vs 2 clash before the two teams eventually team up.

* For extra points, it’ll be a two man team with

* Additionally, the gag where one character sees one of the giant robot, only for another character to not believe them, will be repeated twice - first with the heroes (Misora and Ryuga, possibly), where it's played straight (using the Patoranger mecha), and the second time with the villains (possibly using Gentoku and Nanba), except this time, the other character sees the mech.

...allying with either Lupinranger (like say Boukenger and Gokaiger) or Patoranger (Dekaranger, Shinkenger, Go-Busters), turning the whole thing into Toei [[ComicBook/CivilWar]].

[[WMG: LupinRed and PatorenIchigo’s personalities...]]
LupinRed will have a personality like Captain Marvelous’s, a charismatic and cool leaderq, while PatorenIchigo will be a serious character with a strong sense of justice. They will hate each other at first, both as rangers and civilians, until they become VitriolicBestBuds after the teams join up permanently.

* For extra points, it’ll be a two man team comprised of a [[GreatDetective brilliant detective]] and [[TheWatson his companion/sidekick.]]

[[WMG: Lupin Red’s and Patoren Ichigo’s personalities...]]
Lupin Red will have a personality like Captain Marvelous’s, a charismatic and cool leaderq, while Patoren Ichigo will be a serious character with a strong sense of justice. They will hate each other at first, both as rangers and civilians, until they become VitrolicBestBuds after the teams join up permanently.

[[WMG: LupinRed and PatorenIchigo’s personalities...]]
LupinRed will have a personality like Captain Marvelous’s, a charismatic and cool leaderq, while PatorenIchigo will be a serious character with a strong sense of justice. They will hate each other at first, both as rangers and civilians, until they become VitrolicBestBuds after the teams join up permanently.