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In the second movie, the Pigeon Lady tells Kevin that she had a fiancé and a career, but gave up trusting people when he dumped her and assumed her present lifestyle. Other tropers have commented how unintentionally funny or manipulative the story sounds. More likely, the truth is something far worse, possibly involving her ex not only dumping her, but ruining her life and destroying her career, perhaps even framing her for a crime that he committed (like embezzlement, insider training, or professional ethics violations) and getting her sent to prison. With the man she loved having betrayed her, and everyone -- her friends and even family -- believing she's a crook, that would certainly damage her trust in others. A rap sheet for white collar crime would certainly ruin her future job prospects, particularly if it cost her a professional license, reducing her to her present lifestyle. Of course, she has the sense to gloss over the gory details when talking to a ten-year-old.

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In the second movie, the Pigeon Lady tells Kevin that she had a fiancé and a career, but gave up trusting people when he dumped her and assumed her present lifestyle. Other tropers have commented how unintentionally funny or manipulative the story sounds. More likely, the truth is something far worse, possibly involving her ex not only dumping her, but ruining her life and destroying her career, perhaps even framing her for a crime that he committed (like embezzlement, insider training, trading, or professional ethics violations) and getting her sent to prison. With the man she loved having betrayed her, and everyone -- her friends and even family -- believing she's a crook, that would certainly damage her trust in others. A rap sheet for white collar crime would certainly ruin her future job prospects, particularly if it cost her a professional license, reducing her to her present lifestyle. Of course, she has the sense to gloss over the gory details when talking to a ten-year-old.
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** The timeline doesn't match up. The first two ''Home Alone'' films take place at the time when they were released, in the early 1990s, while the ''Saw'' movies also take place when they were released, in the 2000s. Even assuming Kevin changed his name to John Kramer, it wouldn't explain how he aged over 40 years in only about a decade.

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Buzz refuted his own claim about Marley with how he described their street to Megan


* Wasn't just to scare Kevin. Marley probably called him (or him and his friend[s]) out for being jerks and this was malicious slander. Scaring the crap out of his brother was an added bonus.

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* Wasn't just to scare Kevin. Marley probably called him (or him and his friend[s]) out for being jerks and this was [[DisproportionateRetribution malicious slander. slander]]. Scaring the crap out of his brother was an added bonus.bonus.
** Although Buzz claims Marley is a serial killer to Kevin, he later describes the street to Megan as "the most boring street in the United States of America, where nothing even remotely dangerous will ever happen. Period."
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* Could in a way be confirmed by the 2021 "reboot?" movie. As the house is protect by the McCallister brand security system (w/ silhouette of Kevin's house from first movie as the company logo)

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* Could in a way be confirmed by the 2021 "reboot?" movie. As the house is protect by the McCallister [=McCallister=] brand security system (w/ silhouette of Kevin's house from first movie as the company logo)



[[WMG: The Mccallister residence is haunted in the basement.]]

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[[WMG: The Mccallister [=McCallister=] residence is haunted in the basement.]]
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They were in prison before the events of the first film, and the US government conducted hideous human experiments on them as part of a program to develop soldiers who could survive more extreme injuries. Taking a blowtorch to the head or a kerosene explosion point-black is no problem, as they were created to withstand flamethrowers and battlefield explosives. The experiments done to them were torturously painful, resulting in them having a high enough pain threshold to keep going when an ordinary human would've been rendered comatose. They keep escaping from prison because the experiment [[GoneHorriblyRight worked too well]], allowing them to get away by doing things no ordinary human could survive, like crawling through fields of barbed wire or jumping from prison walls several stories high. However, they're still only common thugs with no military training, resulting in them being unable to defeat Kevin because they just rush in and rely on their SuperToughness to survive. This is also why they're prone to [[WhatAnIdiot dumb decisions]] and [[FailedASpotCheck carelessness]]: they know that [[ImplacableMan nothing can stop them]], and are too impatient and impulsive to be more cautious.

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They were in prison before the events of the first film, and the US government conducted hideous human experiments on them as part of a program to develop soldiers who could survive more extreme injuries. Taking a blowtorch to the head or a kerosene explosion point-black is no problem, as they were created to withstand flamethrowers and battlefield explosives. The experiments done to them were torturously painful, resulting in them having a high enough pain threshold to keep going when an ordinary human would've been rendered comatose. They keep escaping from prison because the experiment [[GoneHorriblyRight worked too well]], allowing them to get away by doing things no ordinary human could survive, like crawling through fields of barbed wire or jumping from prison walls several stories high. However, they're still only common thugs with no military training, resulting in them being unable to defeat Kevin because they just rush in and rely on their SuperToughness to survive. This is also why they're prone to [[WhatAnIdiot dumb decisions]] decisions and [[FailedASpotCheck carelessness]]: they know that [[ImplacableMan nothing can stop them]], and are too impatient and impulsive to be more cautious.
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* Could in a way be confirmed by the 2021 "reboot?" movie. As the house is protect by the McCallister brand security system (w/ silhouette of Kevin's house from first movie s the company logo)

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* Could in a way be confirmed by the 2021 "reboot?" movie. As the house is protect by the McCallister brand security system (w/ silhouette of Kevin's house from first movie s as the company logo)
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*Could in a way be confirmed by the 2021 "reboot?" movie. As the house is protect by the McCallister brand security system (w/ silhouette of Kevin's house from first movie s the company logo)

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[[WMG: Kevin grows up to be Film/TheCollector, is more like it.]]

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[[WMG: Kevin grows up to be Film/TheCollector, Film/{{The Collector|2009}}, is more like it.]]
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Harry and Marv are actually fictional characters Kevin came up with, who he daydreams about fighting to distract himself from the stress of being separated from his family. This would explain why their appearance always coincides with an abrupt GenreShift into cartoon violence, how they're able to survive clearly fatal injuries, and why they coincidentally ended up in New York at the exact same time Kevin was there. Old Man Morley and the Pigeon Lady (The only other characters who interact with Harry and Marv, who also otherwise only interact with Kevin.) are probably imaginary as well, although in Morley's case he's probably based on a real neighbour of the [=McAllisters=] who Buzz made up an urban legend about to scare Kevin.

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Harry and Marv are actually fictional characters Kevin came up with, who he daydreams about fighting to distract himself from the stress of being separated from his family. This would explain why their appearance always coincides with an abrupt GenreShift into cartoon violence, how they're able to survive clearly fatal injuries, and why they coincidentally ended up in New York at the exact same time Kevin was there. Old Man Morley Marley and the Pigeon Lady (The only other characters who interact with Harry and Marv, who also otherwise only interact with Kevin.) are probably imaginary as well, although in Morley's Marley's case he's probably based on a real neighbour of the [=McAllisters=] who Buzz made up an urban legend about to scare Kevin.
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In both movies, the Wet Bandits mostly don't interact with characters other than Kevin, with the exception of the scene in the first movie where Marv cases the McAllister residence in disguise as a police officer, which could be explained if the cop in that scene was a real person, who Kevin based his imaginary burglar nemesis's appearance off of.

Harry and Marv are actually fictional characters Kevin came up with, who he daydreams about fighting to distract himself from the stress of being separated from his family. This would explain why their appearance always coincides with an abrupt GenreShift into cartoon violence, how they're able to survive clearly fatal injuries, and why they coincidentally ended up in New York at the exact same time Kevin was there. Old Man Morley and the Pigeon Lady (The only other characters who interact with Harry and Marv, who also otherwise only interact with Kevin.) are probably imaginary as well, although in Morley's case he's probably based on a real neighbour of the McAllisters who Buzz made up an urban legend about to scare Kevin.

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In both movies, the Wet Bandits mostly don't interact with characters other than Kevin, with the exception of the scene in the first movie where Marv cases the McAllister [=McAllister=] residence in disguise as a police officer, which could be explained if the cop in that scene was a real person, who Kevin based his imaginary burglar nemesis's appearance off of.

Harry and Marv are actually fictional characters Kevin came up with, who he daydreams about fighting to distract himself from the stress of being separated from his family. This would explain why their appearance always coincides with an abrupt GenreShift into cartoon violence, how they're able to survive clearly fatal injuries, and why they coincidentally ended up in New York at the exact same time Kevin was there. Old Man Morley and the Pigeon Lady (The only other characters who interact with Harry and Marv, who also otherwise only interact with Kevin.) are probably imaginary as well, although in Morley's case he's probably based on a real neighbour of the McAllisters [=McAllisters=] who Buzz made up an urban legend about to scare Kevin.
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[[WMG: Harry and Marv only exist in Kevin's imagination.]]
In both movies, the Wet Bandits mostly don't interact with characters other than Kevin, with the exception of the scene in the first movie where Marv cases the McAllister residence in disguise as a police officer, which could be explained if the cop in that scene was a real person, who Kevin based his imaginary burglar nemesis's appearance off of.

Harry and Marv are actually fictional characters Kevin came up with, who he daydreams about fighting to distract himself from the stress of being separated from his family. This would explain why their appearance always coincides with an abrupt GenreShift into cartoon violence, how they're able to survive clearly fatal injuries, and why they coincidentally ended up in New York at the exact same time Kevin was there. Old Man Morley and the Pigeon Lady (The only other characters who interact with Harry and Marv, who also otherwise only interact with Kevin.) are probably imaginary as well, although in Morley's case he's probably based on a real neighbour of the McAllisters who Buzz made up an urban legend about to scare Kevin.
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* For the beginning of the film, Kevin is alive. But he is nearly killed when Buzz's shelves collapse whilst he climbs them. The rest of the film is Kevin's mind playing out an idealized sequence of events to both amuse and keep him sane: The traps he sets up and the pratfalls the Wet Bandits endure are cartoon-like, which is enough to keep him from going insane from realizing the truth.

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* For the beginning of the film, Kevin is alive. But he is nearly killed when Buzz's shelves collapse whilst as he climbs them. The rest of the film is Kevin's mind playing out an idealized sequence of events to both amuse and keep him sane: The traps he sets up and the pratfalls the Wet Bandits endure are cartoon-like, which is enough to keep him from going insane from realizing the truth.
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Film is American. Changed British words/spellings to American.


Even though we don't see them snog it could be implied Kate and Gus at some point between the airport at Scranton and Kevin's home had an affair. A clear sign of Kate falling in love at first sight with Gus is at the airport in Scranton where she smiles awkwardly at him after he introduces himself and still has that lovey dovey look in her face in the lorry. It is possible Kate does not have a spark in her marriage with Peter anymore and found Gus more her taste than her husband. Of course Kate and Gus would keep this affair a secret so Peter would obviously never find this out.

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Even though we don't see them snog it could be implied Kate and Gus at some point between the airport at Scranton and Kevin's home had an affair. A clear sign of Kate falling in love at first sight with Gus is at the airport in Scranton where she smiles awkwardly at him after he introduces himself and still has that lovey dovey look in her face in the lorry.moving truck. It is possible Kate does not have a spark in her marriage with Peter anymore and found Gus more her taste than her husband. Of course Kate and Gus would keep this affair a secret so Peter would obviously never find this out.



We know that in the film the guy who plays Fuller is Malculary Culkin's brother in real life but Fuller is actually Kevin's brother not his cousin or at least half brother. Even though Frank appears to be the dad Peter is ACTUALLY the dad. For one thing Fuller looks like Kevin in the face including the eyes, hair colour and lips. And let's not forget Kevin and Lennie one of his sisters have blonde hair. So by putting two and two together Peter before the arrival of Fuller had an affair with Leslie and accidentally got her pregnant. But it is possible Leslie still had sex with Frank afterwards and missed her period making her think Frank is the dad. So if that the case Peter does not know Fuller is his biological son instead of being his nephew.

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We know that in the film the guy who plays Fuller is Malculary Culkin's brother in real life but Fuller is actually Kevin's brother not his cousin or at least half brother. Even though Frank appears to be the dad Peter is ACTUALLY the dad. For one thing Fuller looks like Kevin in the face including the eyes, hair colour color and lips. And let's not forget Kevin and Lennie one of his sisters have blonde hair. So by putting two and two together Peter before the arrival of Fuller had an affair with Leslie and accidentally got her pregnant. But it is possible Leslie still had sex with Frank afterwards and missed her period making her think Frank is the dad. So if that the case Peter does not know Fuller is his biological son instead of being his nephew.



** He was there and probably recognized the neighbour kid; and he seems nice enough.


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** He was there and probably recognized the neighbour neighbor kid; and he seems nice enough.

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** Of course, he could have escaped from prison in between movies, or at the beginning of this one.

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** Of course, he could have escaped from prison in between movies, or at the beginning of this one.
one. As long as he’s back behind bars (or dead) at the end of this movie, it’s all good according to the Code.
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** Of course, he could have escaped from prison in between movies, or at the beginning of this one.
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In the second movie, the Pigeon Lady tells Kevin that she had a fiancé and a career, but gave up trusting people when he dumped her and assumed her present lifestyle. Other tropers have commented how unintentionally funny or manipulative the story sounds. More likely, the truth is something far worse, possibly involving her ex not only dumping her, but ruining her life and destroying her career, perhaps even framing her for a crime that he committed (like embezzlement) and getting her sent to prison. With the man she loved having betrayed her, and everyone — her friends and even family — believing she’s a crook, that would certainly damage her trust in others. A rap sheet for embezzlement would certainly ruin her future job prospects, reducing her to her present lifestyle. Of course, she has the sense to gloss over the gory details when talking to a ten-year-old.

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In the second movie, the Pigeon Lady tells Kevin that she had a fiancé and a career, but gave up trusting people when he dumped her and assumed her present lifestyle. Other tropers have commented how unintentionally funny or manipulative the story sounds. More likely, the truth is something far worse, possibly involving her ex not only dumping her, but ruining her life and destroying her career, perhaps even framing her for a crime that he committed (like embezzlement) embezzlement, insider training, or professional ethics violations) and getting her sent to prison. With the man she loved having betrayed her, and everyone — her friends and even family — believing she’s a crook, that would certainly damage her trust in others. A rap sheet for embezzlement white collar crime would certainly ruin her future job prospects, particularly if it cost her a professional license, reducing her to her present lifestyle. Of course, she has the sense to gloss over the gory details when talking to a ten-year-old.
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In the second movie, the Pigeon Lady tells Kevin that she had a fiancé and a career, but gave up trusting people when he dumped her and assumed her present lifestyle. Other tropers have commented how unintentionally funny or manipulative the story sounds. More likely, the truth is something far worse, possibly involving her ex not only dumping her, but ruining her life and destroying her career, perhaps even framing her for a crime that he committed (like embezzlement) and getting her sent to prison. Of course, she has the sense to gloss over the gory details when talking to a ten-year-old.

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In the second movie, the Pigeon Lady tells Kevin that she had a fiancé and a career, but gave up trusting people when he dumped her and assumed her present lifestyle. Other tropers have commented how unintentionally funny or manipulative the story sounds. More likely, the truth is something far worse, possibly involving her ex not only dumping her, but ruining her life and destroying her career, perhaps even framing her for a crime that he committed (like embezzlement) and getting her sent to prison. With the man she loved having betrayed her, and everyone — her friends and even family — believing she’s a crook, that would certainly damage her trust in others. A rap sheet for embezzlement would certainly ruin her future job prospects, reducing her to her present lifestyle. Of course, she has the sense to gloss over the gory details when talking to a ten-year-old.
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In the second movie, the Pigeon Lady tells Kevin that she had a fiancé and a career, but gave up trusting people when he dumped her and assumed her present lifestyle. Other tropers have commented how unintentionally funny or manipulative the story sounds. More likely, the truth is something far worse, possibly involving her ex not only dumping her, but ruining her life and destroying her career, perhaps even framing her for a crime and getting her sent to prison. Of course, she has the sense to gloss over the gory details when talking to a ten-year-old.

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In the second movie, the Pigeon Lady tells Kevin that she had a fiancé and a career, but gave up trusting people when he dumped her and assumed her present lifestyle. Other tropers have commented how unintentionally funny or manipulative the story sounds. More likely, the truth is something far worse, possibly involving her ex not only dumping her, but ruining her life and destroying her career, perhaps even framing her for a crime that he committed (like embezzlement) and getting her sent to prison. Of course, she has the sense to gloss over the gory details when talking to a ten-year-old.
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In the second movie, the Pigeon Lady tells Kevin that she had a fiancé and a career, but gave up trusting people when he dumped her and assumed her present lifestyle. Other tropers have commented how unintentionally funny or manipulative the story sounds. More likely, the truth is something far worse, possibly involving her ex not only dumping her, but ruining her life and destroying her career, perhaps even framing her for a crime. Of course, she has the sense to gloss over the gory details when talking to a ten-year-old.

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In the second movie, the Pigeon Lady tells Kevin that she had a fiancé and a career, but gave up trusting people when he dumped her and assumed her present lifestyle. Other tropers have commented how unintentionally funny or manipulative the story sounds. More likely, the truth is something far worse, possibly involving her ex not only dumping her, but ruining her life and destroying her career, perhaps even framing her for a crime.crime and getting her sent to prison. Of course, she has the sense to gloss over the gory details when talking to a ten-year-old.
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[[WMG: The Pigeon Lady’s story is probably a heavily edited version of her actual past.]]
In the second movie, the Pigeon Lady tells Kevin that she had a fiancé and a career, but gave up trusting people when he dumped her and assumed her present lifestyle. Other tropers have commented how unintentionally funny or manipulative the story sounds. More likely, the truth is something far worse, possibly involving her ex not only dumping her, but ruining her life and destroying her career, perhaps even framing her for a crime. Of course, she has the sense to gloss over the gory details when talking to a ten-year-old.
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* The [=McCallister=] family does own a dog, as Kate mentions it's staying at the kennel while they go on vacation at the beginning of the first movie, and there's also a pet door installed in one of the doors. Maybe one of them has a Poochyena or a Herdier as a starter.

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* The [=McCallister=] family does own a dog, as Kate mentions it's staying at the kennel while they go on vacation at the beginning of the first movie, and there's also a pet door installed in one of the doors. Maybe one of them has a Poochyena or a Herdier Lillipup as a starter.
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At the very least, [[Film/PokemonDetectivePikachu we know that the movie Angels With Filthy Souls does.]] The [=McAllister=] family probably just lives in a really boring region without any Pokémon or Trainers.

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At the very least, [[Film/PokemonDetectivePikachu we know that the movie Angels With Filthy Souls does.]] The [=McAllister=] [=McCallister=] family probably just lives in a really boring region without any Pokémon or Trainers.
* The [=McCallister=] family does own a dog, as Kate mentions it's staying at the kennel while they go on vacation at the beginning of the first movie, and there's also a pet door installed in one of the doors. Maybe one of them has a Poochyena or a Herdier as a starter.
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[[WMG: During the fourth film, Linnie and Jeff are staying with one of their uncles to get away from the divorce drama.]]
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[[WMG:In a potential seventh film, one or more of the crooks from the fifth movie might make a cameo after having reformed and gotten a happy ending, given the RootingForTheEmpire sentiment they receive.]]
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[[WMG: ''Home Alone'' takes place in the ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' universe.]]
At the very least, [[Film/PokemonDetectivePikachu we know that the movie Angels With Filthy Souls does.]] The [=McAllister=] family probably just lives in a really boring region without any Pokémon or Trainers.

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