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Let's consider a couple of things. [[TimeTravelTenseTrouble Back when Peter was in the future]], Sylar was still under the impression that he and Peter were brothers, which has since been confirmed false. Now, let's chase the butterfly. The first truly impactful thing which Peter did upon his return was go to Pinehearst. That directly led to his depowering, and Sylar going over to Arthur's side... which ultimately led to Sylar's faceoff with the Bennets... which sowed doubt about Arthur being his father... which led to him confirming that Arthur was not his father. The [[ForWantOfANail chain of logic]], if you follow it back far enough, originally began with Peter's post-timejump actions.

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Let's consider a couple of things. [[TimeTravelTenseTrouble Back when Peter was in the future]], Sylar was still under the impression that he and Peter were brothers, which has since been confirmed false. Now, let's chase the butterfly. The first truly impactful thing which Peter did upon his return was go to Pinehearst. That directly led to his depowering, and Sylar going over to Arthur's side... which ultimately led to Sylar's faceoff with the Bennets... which sowed doubt about Arthur being his father... which led to him confirming that Arthur was not his father. The [[ForWantOfANail chain of logic]], logic, if you follow it back far enough, originally began with Peter's post-timejump actions.
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In "It's Coming", Hiro was in shock about some of Marvel's recent big plots: ComicBook/CaptainAmerica's death, ComicBook/SpiderMan's unmasking in ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', and the mysterious "Red Hulk" character. Of the three, Spidey's was already resolved as part of the much-hated ''One More Day'', and Hiro should be griping about that story's dissolution of Spidey's marriage instead. One suspects Marvel didn't want to get more backlash from people hearing of that, and somehow pulled rank to have the writers use a slightly outdated reference. (Out of curiosity, what ''was'' Spidey's marital status eighteen years ago when Hiro was 10?)

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In "It's Coming", Hiro was in shock about some of Marvel's recent big plots: ComicBook/CaptainAmerica's death, ComicBook/SpiderMan's unmasking in ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', ''ComicBook/{{Civil War|2006}}'', and the mysterious "Red Hulk" character. Of the three, Spidey's was already resolved as part of the much-hated ''One More Day'', ''ComicBook/OneMoreDay'', and Hiro should be griping about that story's dissolution of Spidey's marriage instead. One suspects Marvel didn't want to get more backlash from people hearing of that, and somehow pulled rank to have the writers use a slightly outdated reference. (Out of curiosity, what ''was'' Spidey's marital status eighteen years ago when Hiro was 10?)
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* For an example of the Hayflick Limit in action, read up on [[CloningBlues "Dolly"]]. She was born at the age of six (biological) years.

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* For an example of the Hayflick Limit in action, read up on [[CloningBlues "Dolly"]]."Dolly". She was born at the age of six (biological) years.
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[[http://boards.9thwonders.com/ 9th Wonders Boards]] came up with the Naughty Naked Sylar Theory to determine why he can shapeshift [[ShapeshifterBaggage CLOTHES]]. Since shapeshifting requires DNA sampling (ala Literature/{{Animorphs}}) and clothes don't have DNA, he must have RequiredSecondaryPowers to mold his flesh to resemble clothing (like Venom from Comicbook/SpiderMan or Mystique from the Comicbook/XMen)

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[[http://boards.9thwonders.com/ 9th Wonders Boards]] came up with the Naughty Naked Sylar Theory to determine why he can shapeshift [[ShapeshifterBaggage CLOTHES]]. Since shapeshifting requires DNA sampling (ala Literature/{{Animorphs}}) and clothes don't have DNA, he must have RequiredSecondaryPowers to mold his flesh to resemble clothing (like Venom from Comicbook/SpiderMan ComicBook/SpiderMan or Mystique from the Comicbook/XMen)ComicBook/XMen)



In "It's Coming", Hiro was in shock about some of Marvel's recent big plots: ComicBook/CaptainAmerica's death, Franchise/SpiderMan's unmasking in ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', and the mysterious "Red Hulk" character. Of the three, Spidey's was already resolved as part of the much-hated ''One More Day'', and Hiro should be griping about that story's dissolution of Spidey's marriage instead. One suspects Marvel didn't want to get more backlash from people hearing of that, and somehow pulled rank to have the writers use a slightly outdated reference. (Out of curiosity, what ''was'' Spidey's marital status eighteen years ago when Hiro was 10?)

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In "It's Coming", Hiro was in shock about some of Marvel's recent big plots: ComicBook/CaptainAmerica's death, Franchise/SpiderMan's ComicBook/SpiderMan's unmasking in ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', and the mysterious "Red Hulk" character. Of the three, Spidey's was already resolved as part of the much-hated ''One More Day'', and Hiro should be griping about that story's dissolution of Spidey's marriage instead. One suspects Marvel didn't want to get more backlash from people hearing of that, and somehow pulled rank to have the writers use a slightly outdated reference. (Out of curiosity, what ''was'' Spidey's marital status eighteen years ago when Hiro was 10?)



* [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Super-sanity]].

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* [[Franchise/{{Batman}} [[ComicBook/{{Batman}} Super-sanity]].
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This sounds crazy, but hear me out. We can infer that its not just high power levels making you stupid, or else Sylar and pre-superhug Arthur would be drooling vegetables (Peter... well, he's [[IdiotHero Peter]]. Some supers are perfectly capable of being rational and intelligent, or else the whole thing would have been obvious ages ago. However, the stronger, more unusual mutations (bending space and time to your will, mind control, etc.) often come with the brain being impaired, in the least. Peter's frequent bouts of WhatAnIdiot moments are due to him absorbing the stupidity powers of a ridiculous number of mutants. Sylar, meanwhile, is capable of plotting with his powers because he's probably the best super-neurologist in the world, so he knows about it, maybe using telekinetic surgery on himself or shapeshifting to temporarily set it back. This would explain why, among other things, Arthur Petrelli went from "Mastermind with a new Company" to "Idiot who [[IdiotBall stood in front of a hovering bullet while Sylar monologued]]" and why these people have never thought of really changing the world with some power like Ted Sprague's.

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This sounds crazy, but hear me out. We can infer that its not just high power levels making you stupid, or else Sylar and pre-superhug Arthur would be drooling vegetables (Peter... well, he's [[IdiotHero Peter]]. Some supers are perfectly capable of being rational and intelligent, or else the whole thing would have been obvious ages ago. However, the stronger, more unusual mutations (bending space and time to your will, mind control, etc.) often come with the brain being impaired, in the least. Peter's frequent bouts of WhatAnIdiot of moments of sheer idiocy are due to him absorbing the stupidity powers of a ridiculous number of mutants. Sylar, meanwhile, is capable of plotting with his powers because he's probably the best super-neurologist in the world, so he knows about it, maybe using telekinetic surgery on himself or shapeshifting to temporarily set it back. This would explain why, among other things, Arthur Petrelli went from "Mastermind with a new Company" to "Idiot who [[IdiotBall stood in front of a hovering bullet while Sylar monologued]]" and why these people have never thought of really changing the world with some power like Ted Sprague's.
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* Long-distance brain-eating. And [[UpToEleven ridiculously exaggerated]] versions of any power he absorbs... such as being able to control all matter that contains either hydrogen and/or oxygen by absorbing Tracy's power, or wormhole generation from that guy who made portals (and disappeared into one).

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* Long-distance brain-eating. And [[UpToEleven ridiculously exaggerated]] exaggerated versions of any power he absorbs... such as being able to control all matter that contains either hydrogen and/or oxygen by absorbing Tracy's power, or wormhole generation from that guy who made portals (and disappeared into one).
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It now works by an act of will, like ''WesternAnimation/MegaMan''. It fits how it seems to work now.

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It now works by an act of will, like ''WesternAnimation/MegaMan''.''WesternAnimation/MegaManRubySpears''. It fits how it seems to work now.
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* Any leads on the father? Perhaps "Uncle" [[FoeYay Peter]]? (Yeah, they're separated now but still close. Future!Peter pays child support and comes home on the weekends.)
** It's gotta be [[FoeYay Danko]]. (Perhaps things got a little crazy at that night club...)
** [[FoeYay Noah Bennet]]? Sylar PRETENDS TO BE NOAH'S WIFE!

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* Any leads on the father? Perhaps "Uncle" [[FoeYay Peter]]? Peter? (Yeah, they're separated now but still close. Future!Peter pays child support and comes home on the weekends.)
** It's gotta be [[FoeYay Danko]].Danko. (Perhaps things got a little crazy at that night club...)
** [[FoeYay Noah Bennet]]? Bennet? Sylar PRETENDS TO BE NOAH'S WIFE!
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[[WMG: Sylar is a displaced [[TheSimpsons Simpsons character]].]]

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[[WMG: Sylar is a displaced [[TheSimpsons [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Simpsons character]].]]



** He should just show up on ''TheSimpsons''. Mr. Burns would make him Vice President of Communications or something. Claude should, too, since he's a crabby misogynist who would probably spend a fair amount of time at Moe's, when he's not randomly helping Bart get out of a fix because he just likes the kid for some reason.

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** He should just show up on ''TheSimpsons''.''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''. Mr. Burns would make him Vice President of Communications or something. Claude should, too, since he's a crabby misogynist who would probably spend a fair amount of time at Moe's, when he's not randomly helping Bart get out of a fix because he just likes the kid for some reason.

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[[WMG: ''Heroes'' shares the same universe as ''Alias'', ''LOST'', ''Fringe'', ''Cloverfield'' and ''Super 8''.

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[[WMG: ''Heroes'' shares the same universe as ''Alias'', ''LOST'', ''Fringe'', ''Cloverfield'' and ''Super 8''.]]
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[[WMG: ''Heroes'' shares the same universe as ''Alias'', ''LOST'', ''Fringe'', ''Cloverfield'' and ''Super 8''.
A signature fictional product makes an appearance as Elle Bishop's usual beverage she drinks - Slusho! hence it wouldn't be all too surprising or shocking if this series does in fact share the same universe as the three shows and two films.
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** Not necessarily true... according to Volume 4 ([[Discontinuity/LiveActionTV now don't start with that]]), she's had her powers since the tender age of 16 or so. Presumably she's had over 40 years of practice refining control over her ability, and it's not too much of a stretch to say she could trigger dreams about how she convinces people to agree with her.

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** Not necessarily true... according to Volume 4 ([[Discontinuity/LiveActionTV ([[FanonDiscontinuity/LiveActionTV now don't start with that]]), she's had her powers since the tender age of 16 or so. Presumably she's had over 40 years of practice refining control over her ability, and it's not too much of a stretch to say she could trigger dreams about how she convinces people to agree with her.
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* Please, next time word it in a manner that doesn't make you think "What, [[StarWars Vader]]?"

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* Please, next time word it in a manner that doesn't make you think "What, [[StarWars [[Franchise/StarWars Vader]]?"
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[[WMG:"God gave you a big sister instead of a brain"]]
Meredith says this to her brother Flint. Maybe this is completely literal... and applies to Mohinder, too, and explains why he's so damn stupid. Whatever cruel god exists in the Heroes-verse gives some folks big sisters instead of brains... but his died, leaving Mohinder a brainless moron all alone in the world.

Note: it doesn't make much cosmic sense for him to have an elder sister as a brain substitute if he was only conceived as an "antibody donor" for her, you say? Well, all that antibody donor nonsense makes absolutely no sense. Mohinder just imagined it because his brain is missing.
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Frickin' Laser Beams entry amended in accordance with this Trope Repair Shop Thread.


The first time we saw it used, he was generating "Hero energy", which simply amplifies the powers of those who have them. When he tried to fight the agents coming to take Matt Jr, he turned it into the kind of PureEnergy you expect to find in FrickinLaserBeams. Should he practice more with it, he'd be able to generate and manipulate ''all'' forms of energy - thermal energy to boil water, electrical energy to never need batteries again (without relying on Matt Jr), and so forth. Considering the "red lightning" nature of the power, it seems that electrical energy will be easier to master. Not to mention, it would be ''totally killer-awesome'' to see him and Sylar throw down, each with their own lightning -- like the bit of "fire and ice" in "Five Years Gone", but without the FightUnscene because we have ''good'' special effects now.

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The first time we saw it used, he was generating "Hero energy", which simply amplifies the powers of those who have them. When he tried to fight the agents coming to take Matt Jr, he turned it into the kind of PureEnergy you expect to find in FrickinLaserBeams.[[EnergyWeapon Frickin' Laser Beams]]. Should he practice more with it, he'd be able to generate and manipulate ''all'' forms of energy - thermal energy to boil water, electrical energy to never need batteries again (without relying on Matt Jr), and so forth. Considering the "red lightning" nature of the power, it seems that electrical energy will be easier to master. Not to mention, it would be ''totally killer-awesome'' to see him and Sylar throw down, each with their own lightning -- like the bit of "fire and ice" in "Five Years Gone", but without the FightUnscene because we have ''good'' special effects now.
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[[WMG: Sylar is [[KnightsOfTheOldRepublic Darth Revan]].]]

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[[WMG: Sylar is [[KnightsOfTheOldRepublic [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic Darth Revan]].]]

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