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[[WMG: The containment unit will ultimately become an EvolutionaryPressureCooker]]

Consider how this trope works, particularly the ancient Asian Gu or Kodoku magic: numerous dangerous creatures are all trapped, isolated within a single location. Eventually, due to one stressor or another, they begin to devour each other and grow in power as a result, until only one or two are left, which have grown to an entirely new dimension of power. If there is any freedom to act in any way within the tank, then it has inadvertently become a very accurate rendition of this very process, meaning it may be only a matter of time until the unit switches from holding thousands of ghosts to holding one entity unlike any they've seen before..
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* Taking the whole canon into account it seems to be a mixed bag.
** The most common ghosts seem to be echos of people or strong feelings, how close the echo is to the original will vary considerably and produces things like Slimer a being of pure gluttony or the Ghost Jogger who follow a set pattern but lack emotional depth on their own. Additionally many of them become dormant unless theres another major phenomena going on for them to absorb passive PKE out of.
** The next most common are construct ghosts, that are manufactured through other means and either aren't based on humans or are based on secondhand information. The Scolari Brothers are construct ghosts manufactured by mood slime and the Judges anger filled memories which is why they're murderous caricatures only retaining their most physically noticeable features such as a prominent chin paired with a sly smile or being overweight.
** The rarest are actual people and beings that were never alive in the first place. Usually restricted to people who know what specifically they're doing to provoke the state or who had prior contact with the supernatural. For non-humans that's gods or demi-gods like Gozer and the terror dogs.
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Ghostbusters 2 indicates that Egon had an unusual upbringing that had a hand in making him the man is today. He mentions to Ray that his parents didn't believe in toys and he's introduced running tests on the effects of negative behavior by causing a man and woman to argue with each other, and by taking a puppy away from a little girl. So perhaps Egon's parents were emotionally distant and/or manipulative because they wanted to groom him to be a Gozer worshipper like they were (and likely their ancestors, since Shandor was alive during WW1)

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Ghostbusters 2 indicates that Egon had an unusual upbringing that had a hand in making him the man is today. He mentions to Ray that his parents didn't believe in toys and he's introduced running tests on the effects of negative behavior by causing a man and woman to argue with each other, and by taking a puppy away from a little girl. So perhaps Egon's parents were emotionally distant and/or manipulative because they wanted to groom him to be a Gozer worshipper like they were (and likely their ancestors, since Shandor was alive during WW1) [=WW1=])



In Ghostbusters Egon mentions that Shandor was a doctor who performed a lot of "unnecessary surgeries" and that he was alive during WW1. Therefore, perhaps, the unnecessary surgeries he (and possibly other Gozer worshipers) performed on people resulted in them and/or or their direct descendants having psychic abilities. This includes the male student from the beginning of the first film (identified as Bob Douglas in the IDW comics), Milton Angland from Ghostbusters 2, Ray, Egon, Venkman and Janine (among many others)

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In Ghostbusters Egon mentions that Shandor was a doctor who performed a lot of "unnecessary surgeries" and that he was alive during WW1.[=WW1=]. Therefore, perhaps, the unnecessary surgeries he (and possibly other Gozer worshipers) performed on people resulted in them and/or or their direct descendants having psychic abilities. This includes the male student from the beginning of the first film (identified as Bob Douglas in the IDW comics), Milton Angland from Ghostbusters 2, Ray, Egon, Venkman and Janine (among many others)
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[[WMG: Walter Peck is a distant relation of the [[Film/BackToTheFuture Strickland family of Hill Valley]]]]

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[[WMG: Walter Peck is a distant relation of the [[Film/BackToTheFuture [[Franchise/BackToTheFuture Strickland family of Hill Valley]]]]
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[[WMG:Egon [[TheTeetotaler doesn't drink.]]]]
Hence why he was drinking Coke instead of beer.
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* Several sources confirm in various ways that Akroyd considers Slimer to be "the ghost of John Belushi", which, for this troper is as good as confirmed Word of God.
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* It's possible, as the same thing happened with the library ghost in the first film. She appeared normal and docile when the guys find her. It's only after they annoy her by trying to talk to her and then trying to "get her" did she completely change from a normal human appearance to a full-fledge monstrous form.
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** The slime wasn't in the sewers, it was in the long-abandoned Beach Pneumatic Transit tunnels that run under Broadway. No poop in those.

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** The slime wasn't in the sewers, it was in the long-abandoned Beach Pneumatic Transit pneumatic transit tunnels that run under Broadway. No poop in those.
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** The slime wasn't in the sewers, it was in the long-abandoned Beach Pneumatic Transit tunnels that run under Broadway. No poop in those.
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* Gozer requires humans to choose the Destructor because it wants to pick an especially devious form. Not so much "what are you afraid of?" but "what's the most grotesque thing you can think of?" Maybe it plays a little mix-n-match with different people's thoughts: someone thinks of [[GrotesqueGallery molluscs and other deep-sea nasties]], while someone else thinks of scorpions or something, and the result is some kind of unspeakable...''whatever''. Now, someone's going to ask, "Well, in that case, why did it go with the form of Mr. Stay Puft?" Answer: Gozer looked at "Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man" and went, "Well, ''there's'' something I haven't tried before!"

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* Gozer requires humans to choose the Destructor because it wants to pick an especially devious form. Not so much "what are you afraid of?" but "what's the most grotesque thing you can think of?" Maybe it plays a little mix-n-match with different people's thoughts: someone thinks of [[GrotesqueGallery molluscs and other deep-sea nasties]], nasties, while someone else thinks of scorpions or something, and the result is some kind of unspeakable...''whatever''. Now, someone's going to ask, "Well, in that case, why did it go with the form of Mr. Stay Puft?" Answer: Gozer looked at "Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man" and went, "Well, ''there's'' something I haven't tried before!"
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[[WMG: Oscar grows up to become a Ghostbuster, even after Dana's objections.]]

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* I think the idea was that the Scoleri Brother ghosts were ripped from the angriest person in the rooms head, as a HangingJudge, of course two of the worst killers the judge convicted would be twisted into monsters in his head.


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[[WMG: Gozer's world destroying is part of the Terror Dogs mating cycle.]]
Terror Dogs are a native species to Gozer's dimension, every time Gozer is to be summoned, Gozer picks a mated pair of Terror Dogs, to act as their gateway into another dimension, upon being chosen they both go into mystically induced heat, in order to breed, with the side effect of opening dimensional portals, hence why Gozer uses them.
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[[WMG: The family from the first Afterlife trailer is Ray's.]]
Ray and Egon are the most likely candidates to be the teammate who's daughter is the mother of the family in the trailer. The beginning of the first movie did mention that Ray had to mortgage his family's house to get the startup money for the team, so are we looking at that house in the trailer? Figures Ray would be packrat enough about the many toys and such they had from the busting days.

[[WMG: The family from the first Afterlife trailer is Egon's, but are not his biological descendants.]]
Egon always seemed rather asexual in the movies, uninterested in relationships, but the series is rather heavily hinting at them being his family. It's possible that he did settle down and have a family, but it's also possible he decided to adopt as a single dad. The similarities between the grandchild and him are more the mother's doing, wanting a lover that resembled her dad, but said lover failed to be a proper father figure (assuming he didn't die).
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[[WMG The movie version of Venkman had an absentee father.]]

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In GB1 Egon says that the apartment is made with materials used by NASA in telemetry equipment used to detect dead pulsars in outer space. It's also said in the same scene that the apartment was made so that it could suck in and maintain "spiritual turbulence". In addition, ghosts are routinely described and detected using scientific equipment and one of those is a Gegier Counter, as seen in GB2.

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In GB1 Egon says that the apartment is made with materials used by NASA in telemetry equipment used to detect dead pulsars in outer space. It's also said in the same scene that the apartment was made so that it could suck in and maintain "spiritual turbulence". In addition, ghosts are routinely described and detected using scientific equipment in similar way to detecting radiation. The PKE Meter and one of those Giga Meter behave similarly to a geiger counter. So it's possible outer space radiation is a Gegier Counter, as seen being brought in GB2.from outer space and helping ghosts form.

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[[WMG: Ghosts are formed partially by cosmic radiation from outer space]]
In GB1 Egon says that the apartment is made with materials used by NASA in telemetry equipment used to detect dead pulsars in outer space. It's also said in the same scene that the apartment was made so that it could suck in and maintain "spiritual turbulence". In addition, ghosts are routinely described and detected using scientific equipment and one of those is a Gegier Counter, as seen in GB2.



In Ghostbusters Egon mentions that Shandor was a doctor who performed a lot of "unnecessary surgeries" and that he was alive during WW1. Therefore, perhaps, the unnecessary surgeries he (and possibly other Gozer worshippers) performed on people resulted in them and/or or their direct descendants having psychic abilities. This includes the male student from the beginning of the first film (identified as Bob Douglas in the IDW comics), Milton Angland from Ghostbusters 2, Ray, Egon, Venkman and Janine (among many others)

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In Ghostbusters Egon mentions that Shandor was a doctor who performed a lot of "unnecessary surgeries" and that he was alive during WW1. Therefore, perhaps, the unnecessary surgeries he (and possibly other Gozer worshippers) worshipers) performed on people resulted in them and/or or their direct descendants having psychic abilities. This includes the male student from the beginning of the first film (identified as Bob Douglas in the IDW comics), Milton Angland from Ghostbusters 2, Ray, Egon, Venkman and Janine (among many others)
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In addition, Egon attempting to drill a hole in his head (a reference to a practice named "trepanning", which was believed to exorcise evil spirits and increase intelligence) was an attempt to gain greater access to latent psychic ability, as he either recognized or suspected he had this ability.



Egon was abused or otherwise traumatized in a way that resulted in him being emotionally closed off and caused him to escape into the intellectual fields and sciences. Ray was affected in a way that resulted in him retreating into childlike wonder and optimism as a coping mechanism. Venkman was affected in a way that resulted in him being afraid to be genuine about his feelings to have an unhealthy fixation on trying to persue shallow relationships with women.

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Egon was abused or otherwise traumatized in a way that resulted in him being emotionally closed off and caused him to escape into the intellectual fields and sciences. Ray was affected in a way that resulted in him retreating into childlike wonder and optimism as a coping mechanism. Venkman was affected in a way that resulted in him being afraid to be genuine about his feelings and to have an unhealthy fixation on trying to persue pursue shallow relationships with women.

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In Ghostbusters Egon mentions that Shandor was a doctor who performed a lot of "unnecessary experiments" and that he was alive during WW1. Therefore, perhaps, the unnecessary surgeries he (and possibly other Gozer worshippers) performed on people resulted in them and/or or their direct descendants having psychic abilities. This includes the male student from the beginning of the first film (identified as Bob Douglas in the IDW comics), Milton Angland from Ghostbusters 2, Ray, Egon, Venkman and Janine (among many others)

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In Ghostbusters Egon mentions that Shandor was a doctor who performed a lot of "unnecessary experiments" surgeries" and that he was alive during WW1. Therefore, perhaps, the unnecessary surgeries he (and possibly other Gozer worshippers) performed on people resulted in them and/or or their direct descendants having psychic abilities. This includes the male student from the beginning of the first film (identified as Bob Douglas in the IDW comics), Milton Angland from Ghostbusters 2, Ray, Egon, Venkman and Janine (among many others)

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[[WMG: Egon's parents were Gozer worshippers]]
Ghostbusters 2 indicates that Egon had an unusual upbringing that had a hand in making him the man is today. He mentions to Ray that his parents didn't believe in toys and he's introduced running tests on the effects of negative behavior by causing a man and woman to argue with each other, and by taking a puppy away from a little girl. So perhaps Egon's parents were emotionally distant and/or manipulative because they wanted to groom him to be a Gozer worshipper like they were (and likely their ancestors, since Shandor was alive during WW1)
Whether consciously or subconsciously, Egon becoming a Ghostbuster and foiling Shandor's long-term plans was in defiance of his parents' intentions for him.

[[WMG: Shandor's "unnecessary surgery" resulted in some people having psychic abilities]]
In Ghostbusters Egon mentions that Shandor was a doctor who performed a lot of "unnecessary experiments" and that he was alive during WW1. Therefore, perhaps, the unnecessary surgeries he (and possibly other Gozer worshippers) performed on people resulted in them and/or or their direct descendants having psychic abilities. This includes the male student from the beginning of the first film (identified as Bob Douglas in the IDW comics), Milton Angland from Ghostbusters 2, Ray, Egon, Venkman and Janine (among many others)

[[WMG: Ray, Egon and Venkman were all either abused as children or suffered childhood trauma that shaped their personalities]]
Egon was abused or otherwise traumatized in a way that resulted in him being emotionally closed off and caused him to escape into the intellectual fields and sciences. Ray was affected in a way that resulted in him retreating into childlike wonder and optimism as a coping mechanism. Venkman was affected in a way that resulted in him being afraid to be genuine about his feelings to have an unhealthy fixation on trying to persue shallow relationships with women.

[[The movie version of Venkman had an absentee father.]]
In GB2 Venkman takes to Oscar, and when noone else is around, says to him "You know, I should have been your father. I mean, I could have been." While on the surface this seems to indicate that he regrets blowing it with Dana, in perhaps there's even more to that. Perhaps he had an absentee father and as a result has a desire to be a father figure to Oscar in a way his own father wasn't to him.



* The first part is confirmed as of IDW's Ghostbusters: Year One issue #2. "Male student" (now identified as Bob Douglas) was interviewed for a book about the Ghostbusters (shortly after the events of the first film) and said he's been having nightmares about a haunted painting and something about a baby, meaning he's got a precognitive vision of the future. He claims this was the result of the electric shocks, no doubt because he had no way of knowing he guessed the symbol on the card correctly. Milton Angland from Ghostbusters 2 also seems to have the gift; he predicts the world will end on New Years Eve of that year, which it almost does due to Vigo.

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* The first part is confirmed in the world of the comics as of IDW's Ghostbusters: Year One issue #2. "Male student" (now identified as Bob Douglas) was interviewed for a book about the Ghostbusters (shortly after the events of the first film) and said he's been having nightmares about a haunted painting and something about a baby, meaning he's got a precognitive vision of the future. He claims this was the result of the electric shocks, no doubt because he had no way of knowing he guessed the symbol on the card correctly. Milton Angland from Ghostbusters 2 also seems to have the gift; he predicts the world will end on New Years Eve of that year, which it almost does due to Vigo.



* Jossed as of the IDW comic Ghostbusters: Year One #2 - Bob Douglas was interviewed for a book about the Ghostbusters, complained about the electric shocks, and claimed they were responsible about bad dreams he's been having about a haunted painting and a baby.

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* Jossed (at least in the world of the comics) as of the IDW comic Ghostbusters: Year One #2 - Bob Douglas was interviewed for a book about the Ghostbusters, complained about the electric shocks, and claimed they were responsible about bad dreams he's been having about a haunted painting and a baby.


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[[WMG: Janine's prediction about Egon from the first movie was a few decades off]]
In GB1 Janine claims to be very psychic and claims she senses that something awful is going to happen to Egon and that he is going to die. We're meant to think this is averted by the ending of the first movie, but in fact she predicted what will happen to him between GB2 and GB: Afterlife.

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* The video game establishes that Gozer worshippers supplied the Mood Slime from GB2, and since numerous ghosts throughout the franchise the take the forms of things that are decidedly not human, this is entirely possible.




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* Venkman says it himself: "No names Ray. We don't want to get too attached."




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* The Ghostbusters video game features written recordings claiming that Gozer did appear on Earth in the past.




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* The first part is confirmed as of IDW's Ghostbusters: Year One issue #2. "Male student" (now identified as Bob Douglas) was interviewed for a book about the Ghostbusters (shortly after the events of the first film) and said he's been having nightmares about a haunted painting and something about a baby, meaning he's got a precognitive vision of the future. He claims this was the result of the electric shocks, no doubt because he had no way of knowing he guessed the symbol on the card correctly. Milton Angland from Ghostbusters 2 also seems to have the gift; he predicts the world will end on New Years Eve of that year, which it almost does due to Vigo.




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*Jossed as of the IDW comic Ghostbusters: Year One #2 - Bob Douglas was interviewed for a book about the Ghostbusters, complained about the electric shocks, and claimed they were responsible about bad dreams he's been having about a haunted painting and a baby.


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** The IDW Ghostbusters comic's roll call pages described Egon as "probably on the spectrum", though it also claims Egon doesn't care what other people think of him.


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[[WMG: Elaine was date-raped.]]
Elaine claimed she was approached by an alien at a bar in a Holiday Inn, that the alien bought her a drink and somehow "forced her to go with him to his room" which she speculated was caused by a "ray or a mind control device". When Venkman asked about the alien having a room at the Holiday Inn, she speculated that it was a room on the alien's spaceship that looked like a Holiday Inn room. Elaine notably never describes what the alien looks like or how she knew he was an alien. In reality the "alien" slipped something into her drink. Venkman assumed this as well, hence his awkward reaction, and quickly changing the subject to joke about untrustworthy aliens, since he's hosting a tv show and needs to keep it relatively light. Elaine may have been in denial due to PTSD from being raped and concocted the alien/end of the world story as a coping mechanism.

An early script for Ghostbusters 2 describes her as one of three women on the show who claim to have had sexual relations with an alien, while the IDW comics featured her making a visual cameo at Ray's occult bookstore.
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[[WMG: Egon Spangler has a patent on the pokeball.]]

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[[WMG: Egon Spangler Spengler has a patent on the pokeball.[[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Pokeball.]] ]]



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