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[[WMG: Dorne will declare independence soon after the epilogue and the Six Kingdoms will be down to Five - or fewer.]]
* Dorne has been functionally autonomous since joining the Seven Kingdoms, has very few if any cultural ties to the rest of Westeros, and only ever capitulated to the Targaryens because they had the fantasy equivalent to nuclear weapons. From a practical standpoint,
a war to keep Dorne subjugated would drain what's left of the Kingdoms' finances and manpower for a war where the Kingdoms aren't even assured of victory. Dorne, similarly to the North, is large with very foreign terrain that would give their native fighters a distinct advantage - particularly given that they have stayed mostly aloof from the battle royale that is recent Westerosi politics and were ''well'' clear of the Night King's invasion. So, in short, even if the Five Kingdoms ''wanted'' to hold onto Dorne they probably couldn't. And Bran, for what it's worth, unless there's some Three-Eyed Raven 'big picture' reasoning, doesn't seem interested in holding power at any cost.
* Dorne has been functionally autonomous since joining the Seven Kingdoms, has very few if any cultural ties to the rest of Westeros, and only ever capitulated to the Targaryens because they had the fantasy equivalent to nuclear weapons. From a practical standpoint,
a war to keep Dorne subjugated would drain what's left of the Kingdoms' finances and manpower for a war where the Kingdoms aren't even assured of victory. Dorne, similarly to the North, is large with very foreign terrain that would give their native fighters a distinct advantage - particularly given that they have stayed mostly aloof from the battle royale that is recent Westerosi politics and were ''well'' clear of the Night King's invasion. So, in short, even if the Five Kingdoms ''wanted'' to hold onto Dorne they probably couldn't. And Bran, for what it's worth, unless there's some Three-Eyed Raven 'big picture' reasoning, doesn't seem interested in holding power at any cost.
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* Given the above, Gendry would seem to be a logical choice. A bastard with royal blood that began life as a low-class commoner and has seen life as a blacksmith, mercenary, soldier, and now Lord of a Great House. He's also a strong warrior in his prime that would command respect. The issue is that as a newly raised lord, he's probably got a myriad of political issues to work through at his new home of Storm's End before he can afford to leave to serve at King's Landing.
* Given the above, Gendry would seem to be a logical choice. A bastard with royal blood that began life as a low-class commoner and has seen life as a blacksmith, mercenary, soldier, and now Lord of a Great House. He's also a strong warrior in his prime that would command respect. The issue is that as a newly raised lord, he's probably got a myriad of political issues to work through at his new home of Storm's End before he can afford to leave to serve at King's Landing.
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This was an extremely stupid move from Tyrion. Bronn, a random sellsword who just happens to be Tyrion's former buddy and who blackmailed him into giving him his position, is surely not going to be welcomed with opened arms by the rest of the Reach. And because post-show WMG can rise above [[PlotHole plot holes]] and [[IdiotPlot idiot plots,]] we can just say that SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome happens afterwards. Bronn is so getting shanked - probably by the Tyrells' legitimate heirs.
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This was an extremely stupid move from Tyrion. Bronn, a random sellsword who just happens to be Tyrion's former buddy and who blackmailed him into giving him his position, is surely not going to be welcomed with opened arms by the rest of the Reach. And because post-show WMG can rise above [[PlotHole plot holes]] and [[IdiotPlot idiot plots,]] plots, we can just say that SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome happens afterwards. Bronn is so getting shanked - probably by the Tyrells' legitimate heirs.
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* There are a few problems with such a theory. On a Doylist level, 1) It more or less says that Aerys II's insanity is not down to incest, not down to feudal absolutism, and that the Mad King, his retainers and enablers, are not personally responsible for their actions and crimes. It completely removes the human element from the story in favour of some magic device. 2) This story makes the Game of Thrones entirely about Bran and a time-travelling kid rather than a HyperlinkStory of LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters who are HeroOfAnotherStory. If the entire story is about some kid trapped in a time-travel loop then what does all the prophetic stuff about Jon Snow, and Daenerys, the "ice and fire" stuff mean, it doesn't make sense. 3) If the Night King "is" Bran, and if Bran is all the Brans who have ever existed, does this mean that Bran is also Brandon Stark, Ned's elder brother who defeated Littlefinger in a duel and got killed by Aerys II? That doesn't make sense. 4) The Night's King looking more human is surely down to the fact that they changed the actor between season 5 and season 6, no? And I don't see how the Night King looks like Bran, if you squint, it looks like Jon Snow or almost any dude with his head shaved and dolled with lots of makeup. That's on a Doylist level.
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* There are a few problems with such a theory. On a Doylist level, 1) It more or less says that Aerys II's insanity is not down to incest, not down to feudal absolutism, and that the Mad King, his retainers and enablers, are not personally responsible for their actions and crimes. It completely removes the human element from the story in favour of some magic device. 2) This story makes the Game of Thrones entirely about Bran and a time-travelling kid rather than a HyperlinkStory of LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters many characters who are HeroOfAnotherStory. If the entire story is about some kid trapped in a time-travel loop then what does all the prophetic stuff about Jon Snow, and Daenerys, the "ice and fire" stuff mean, it doesn't make sense. 3) If the Night King "is" Bran, and if Bran is all the Brans who have ever existed, does this mean that Bran is also Brandon Stark, Ned's elder brother who defeated Littlefinger in a duel and got killed by Aerys II? That doesn't make sense. 4) The Night's King looking more human is surely down to the fact that they changed the actor between season 5 and season 6, no? And I don't see how the Night King looks like Bran, if you squint, it looks like Jon Snow or almost any dude with his head shaved and dolled with lots of makeup. That's on a Doylist level.
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[[WMG: Sansa essentially pulled off a coup.]]
Ever since escaping the clutches of Ramsay Bolton, Sansa had been single-mindedly focused on retaking Winterfell and making herself Queen. She goes to Jon, her only remaining known relative, and appeals to his sense of family to shake him out of the bitterness that has consumed him. She doesn't even try to rescue her brother Rickon and sends Jon off to war against the Boltons without telling him that reinforcements are on the way; if Jon gets himself killed on the battlefield before she shows up with the Knights of the Vale, that's one less loose end to tie up. She keeps Littlefinger around to subtle test the loyalty of the other Northern lords, watching to see who he reaches out to and what he offers them, and eliminates him the moment he serves his purpose. The Battle of Winterfell claims the lives of most of Jon's most loyal allies - the Mormonts, the Umbers, the Karstarks, and what remains of the Night's Watch - and while Sansa had no direct hand in that, it presented an opportunity that she knew to take advantage of. She continues to appeal to Jon's sense of family over the love he has for Daenerys, assuring that he will choose them over her, and then supports the decision to have him shipped off to the edge of the world once he's served his purpose. With one male Stark heir sitting on a foreign throne and the other in exile, that leaves her authority as Queen in the North unchallenged.
Ever since escaping the clutches of Ramsay Bolton, Sansa had been single-mindedly focused on retaking Winterfell and making herself Queen. She goes to Jon, her only remaining known relative, and appeals to his sense of family to shake him out of the bitterness that has consumed him. She doesn't even try to rescue her brother Rickon and sends Jon off to war against the Boltons without telling him that reinforcements are on the way; if Jon gets himself killed on the battlefield before she shows up with the Knights of the Vale, that's one less loose end to tie up. She keeps Littlefinger around to subtle test the loyalty of the other Northern lords, watching to see who he reaches out to and what he offers them, and eliminates him the moment he serves his purpose. The Battle of Winterfell claims the lives of most of Jon's most loyal allies - the Mormonts, the Umbers, the Karstarks, and what remains of the Night's Watch - and while Sansa had no direct hand in that, it presented an opportunity that she knew to take advantage of. She continues to appeal to Jon's sense of family over the love he has for Daenerys, assuring that he will choose them over her, and then supports the decision to have him shipped off to the edge of the world once he's served his purpose. With one male Stark heir sitting on a foreign throne and the other in exile, that leaves her authority as Queen in the North unchallenged.
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[[WMG: Sansa will be a tyrant queen]]
There is no way someone goes through everything Sansa went through without trust issues. And she knows first-hand how little the Northern lords can be trusted to honor their oaths to their ruler. She will rule the North with an iron fist, demanding loyalty from all her subjects, and a lot of heads are going to roll. If there are any members of House Glover still alive by the end of the war, they won't be for much longer.
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* In addition, the last song on the official "For the Throne" album is entitled "Pray (High Valyrian)", and samples Melisandre speaking the prayer she used to bring Jon back... except the lyrics sung by Matthew Bellamy are about bringing HER back.
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[[WMG: Bronn will be murdered pretty soon after moving to Highgarden]]
This was an extremely stupid move from Tyrion. Bronn, a random sellsword who just happens to be Tyrion's former buddy and who blackmailed him into giving him his position, is surely not going to be welcomed with opened arms by the rest of the Reach. And because post-show WMG can rise above [[PlotHole plot holes]] and [[IdiotPlot idiot plots,]] we can just say that RealityEnsues afterwards. Bronn is so getting shanked - probably by the Tyrells' legitimate heirs.
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** This tropers' money is on one of Oberyn and Doran's brothers, who in the books died as children. He looks too old to be Oberyn's kid, or Quentyn for that matter.
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[[WMG: The Three Eyed Raven's mind is more complex than we might think]]
Okay, so most people just assume Bran is now a part of this emotionless hive mind that knows everything that was, is and will be. But what if that is just an oversimplification? You see, in the books, most previous Three Eyed Ravens were Children Of The Forest, untill they lured in Bloodraven, who in turn became the first human Three Eyed Raven. Here's the kicker - in the books, he retained something of his old personality and memories (and I am pretty sure that if Bran becomes TER in the books, he won't be cold and unfeeling at all, but that's neither here nor there). I think that at least in the show, previous greenseers integrated seamlessly into the superorganism that is TER, but Bran and his predecessor (we aren't sure he's Bloodraven there, but he's pretty clearly human) didn't. TER is now thus divided into three parts, each one with their own personality and goals.
* Children Of The Forest collective - the original hive mind. Their respective members' personalities have long since subsumed into the larger whole. This supermind is capable of thinking, but has no attachment to anything anymore, except for the defeat of White Walkers, and to this end, it is capable of anything. This part dominates TER to the point that it's difficult for the person bearing this hive mind of having feelings or giving a damn about anything. Hence Bran's demeanor before the White Walkers were defeated. It is, however, possible that after their only goal was achieved, they went somewhat silent, leaving the stage for...
* Bran's immediate human predecessor. A lot of his behavior starts to make more sense if he's Bloodraven, but it's not completely necessary. Because after the original hive mind let him do whatever they wanted, this guy immediately set his eyes on the throne. His new body may have been paralyzed, but he still had the powers of mind control and prescience on his side. He drove Daenerys insane and may have influenced "elections" in the Dragonpit. This divide between human and Children Of The Forest part of TER handily explains the disconnect between "I can never be lord of anything" (back when he was still concerned with White Walkers and the Children part prevailed) and "Why do you think I came all this way?" (when the human was allowed to do whatever he wanted to - and he wanted the throne). He acts as cold and emotionless as the hive mind, so that he doesn't seem out-of-character, but inside he's much more human (even if that human is a despicable person).
* Then there's Bran himself, who must be out there somewhere, growing increasingly frustrated with the other two's shenenigans. The general hive mind cost him relationships with his family and only surviving friend, Meera, while his human predecessor destroyed King's Landing and murdered countless innocent power in his bid for power, playing the same game of thrones that destroyed the lives of Bran and his family. There are two options - one, Bran will be further unable to do anything about this, [[AndIMustScream forced to watch as the other two do whatever they want with his body and powers]] or he will after a long battle prevail and become Bran again, at least for a little while...
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[[WMG: Daenerys Targaryen was (is) a warg]]
Now, this troper would consider this one a complete crackpot nonsense were it about the book!Daenerys, but weirder things happened in the show. First, she has the lineage. Daenerys, due to her father and grandfather both marrying their sisters, has only two great-grandparents - and one of them is of First Men descent (that being Betha Blackwood, wife of Aegon V.) Which means she has about the same percentage of First Men blood as Bloodraven, a.k.a. the actual Three Eyed Raven. So it's not impossible. Now, it's true that Bloodraven was also raised by his Blackwood mother and may have secretly worshiped Old Gods, which seems to be at least as important in the books as one's lineage... But that isn't completely certain; besides, show cannon plays rather fast and loose with the book cannon so why the hell not. Daenerys' dragons also sometimes act weird in the show - just remember how they didn't kill Tyrion when they were imprisoned way back in Mereen, not to mention Drogon burning the Iron Throne but not Jon doesn't make sense without Drogon being sapient (which in turn isn't consistent with his otherwise animalistic behavior). My theory is this - Daenerys didn't bond with her dragons the way her ancestors did, she warged them, at least sometimes. Definitely when Tyrion unchained Rhaegal and Viserion, possibly during the siege of King's Landing (she was distracted by warging two dragons at the same time and didn't notice the Iron Fleet is nearby - what, do you have a better explanation?) and maybe some other times. Now, after some time, she managed to "tame" them this way, so she didn't have to warg them 24/7 to have them under control. It's even possible this is what's behind her grand freakout in episode 5; she couldn't keep Drogon under control and "lost herself" in him. She wasn't triggered by the bells - he was. And when she came to her senses and realized what she had done, the realization was so horrifying her mind just broke (hence her acting like nothing's wrong when confronted by Jon). In her dying moments, she warged into Drogon and stayed there, with her (in Drogon) destruction of the Iron Throne being just a temper tantrum of an insane person. She is now flying in Drogon's body, still completely mad, and who knows what is going to do now. Maybe she'll just fly around, dying of attrition, maybe she'll go on to destroy other places, or maybe she eventually comes to her senses and either bring her body to the red priests of Volantis, or live out the rest of her life in the body of a dragon...
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** Jossed. Any possibility of Daenerys being pregnant is rendered a moot point when [[spoiler:Jon kills Daenerys]].
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[[WMG: Daenerys's actions will mean she is not allowed resurrection; instead she will be reincarnated in our world as Kate from Film/LastChristmas.]]
Where she can learn the value of [[spoiler: opening your heart and becoming a more self-reliant person, and continue her mission of helping the less fortunate, but this time without killing any of them.]]
Where she can learn the value of [[spoiler: opening your heart and becoming a more self-reliant person, and continue her mission of helping the less fortunate, but this time without killing any of them.]]
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[[WMG: Bran reforms Westerosi law soon into his reign.]]
* The episode mentions a Master of Laws hasn't been selected yet, even though it seems some time has passed since Bran's accession to the throne. Perhaps the reason is because the laws are still being (re)written - probably with the perspective of both women and (former) commoners now that both are represented among the king's inner circle. The type of Master of Laws one would want in that position probably depends on the type of laws that exist.
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Assuming Jaime and Sansa end up as King and Queen of the Seven Kinggdoms, and Arya ends up KilledOffForReal by the end, it would be a fitting {{Tearjerker}} to end the series with Sansa naming her daughter (or granddaughter) after her beloved sister. And if Sansa was conceived as a loose FictionalCounterpart of Elizabeth of York, then that would make her granddaughter a FictionalCounterpart of Elizabeth's famous granddaughter [[UsefulNotes/ElizabethI Elizabeth Tudor]].
Considering Arya's famous strength and independence, it would be quite fitting if her name was carried on by Westeros' version of Queen Elizabeth I, a feared and respected female monarch who refused to take a husband. Just imagine a BadassPrincess who combines Arya's spunk and attitude with Sansa's grace and charm; that's a young Elizabeth Tudor in a nutshell.
Considering Arya's famous strength and independence, it would be quite fitting if her name was carried on by Westeros' version of Queen Elizabeth I, a feared and respected female monarch who refused to take a husband. Just imagine a BadassPrincess who combines Arya's spunk and attitude with Sansa's grace and charm; that's a young Elizabeth Tudor in a nutshell.
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Assuming Jaime and Sansa end up as King and Queen of the Seven Kinggdoms, and Arya ends up KilledOffForReal suffers CharacterDeath by the end, it would be a fitting {{Tearjerker}} to end the series with Sansa naming her daughter (or granddaughter) after her beloved sister. And if Sansa was conceived as a loose FictionalCounterpart of Elizabeth of York, then that would make her granddaughter a FictionalCounterpart of Elizabeth's famous granddaughter [[UsefulNotes/ElizabethI Elizabeth Tudor]].
Considering Arya's famous strength and independence, it would be quite fitting if her name was carried on by Westeros' version of Queen Elizabeth I, a feared and respected female monarch who refused to take a husband. Just imagine aBadassPrincess princess who combines Arya's spunk and attitude with Sansa's grace and charm; that's a young Elizabeth Tudor in a nutshell.
Considering Arya's famous strength and independence, it would be quite fitting if her name was carried on by Westeros' version of Queen Elizabeth I, a feared and respected female monarch who refused to take a husband. Just imagine a
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** [[spoiler: Jossed. Though they do have a final conversation, it is in no way hostile.]]
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A lot of the ruling families are already wiped out by Season 7. Sam Tarley is the (disowned) male head of his house and he doesn’t even know it. That’s how chaotic things have become.
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* Rhaegar's body was never found ... it was assumed to have washed out in the river. But he survived and learned the ways of the Faceless Men. Littlefinger's was but one identity he assumed (recall Littlefinger saying at one point that his father came from Braavos ... not consistent with Daelish's Baelish's backstory).
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It's just occurred to me that despite claiming to be the most powerful people in Westeros the highborn, at least in the south, are not in a good place, most houses have been whittled down to one or two members, most of the armies in Westeros are dead and lets face it, the real victims of the 8 seasons are the smallfolk. It would not be surprising if the smallfolk did rise up against the highborn, tired of the way they are forced to suffer as the highborn play their games. In fact it wouldn't be surprising if they won. Bran the Broken may not reign for long...
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It's just occurred to me that despite claiming to be the most powerful people in Westeros Westeros, the highborn, at least in the south, are not in a good place, place; most houses have been whittled down to one or two members, most of the armies in Westeros are dead dead, and lets face it, the real victims of the 8 seasons are the smallfolk. It would not be surprising if the smallfolk smallfolk, seeing an opportunity, did rise up against the highborn, tired of the way they are forced to suffer as the highborn play their games. games, with the final straw being Daenerys' mad purge and how it almost spread to them. In fact fact, it wouldn't be surprising if they won. Bran the Broken may not reign for long...
* Knowing Bran, he'll probably do what all his predecessors failed to think of to solve the smallfolk uprisings: give more than one shit about them. Redistribute wealth by implementing proper infrastructure and education. Elect their champions as representatives. Write propaganda stories about Sam Tully and Brienne Tarth, and how the 'heroes' of Westeros would have died early and pathetically if not for cooler heads and loyal hearts supporting them all the way. And when they're too angry to quell, just use omniscience-fueled future technology (or a few vials of dragonfire, same difference) to put them down quick and hard.
* Knowing Bran, he'll probably do what all his predecessors failed to think of to solve the smallfolk uprisings: give more than one shit about them. Redistribute wealth by implementing proper infrastructure and education. Elect their champions as representatives. Write propaganda stories about Sam Tully and Brienne Tarth, and how the 'heroes' of Westeros would have died early and pathetically if not for cooler heads and loyal hearts supporting them all the way. And when they're too angry to quell, just use omniscience-fueled future technology (or a few vials of dragonfire, same difference) to put them down quick and hard.
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It's just occurred to me that despite claiming to be the most powerful people in Westeros the highborn, at least in the south, are not in a good place, most houses have been whittled down to one or two members, most of the armies in Westeros are dead and lets face it, the real victims of the 8 seasons are the smallfolk. It would not be surprising if the smallfolk did rise up against the highborn, tired of the way they are forced to suffer as the highborn play their games. In fact it wouldn't be surprising if they won. Bran the Broken may not reign for long...
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[[WMG: Narth is as deadly as in the books - and Grey Worm doesn't know it.]]
It has been pointed out that Narth is deadly to outsiders, so if the Unsullied travel there it will lead to their inevitable deaths, much like Jon being reunited with Ghost and the wildlings and traveling to the true north to finally live in peace, it is a case of Karma being cashed in without being too overt.
[[WMG: If a Red Priest(ess) tried to resurrect Daenerys it won't work.]]
It is stated that the lord of light revive people because they still have a part to play in his plan, Beric was needed to save Arya so she could kill the night king, and it would appear Jon was needed to kill ''Daenerys'', if the foretold 'dawn' is in fact the new era of elective monarchy over a hereditary one then any part Daenerys played in the grand plan has been played, indeed given her behavior in the finale, her returning would make things worse, with her attempting to reclaim what was taken again and likely enact revenge on the Starks. So if Drogon took Daenerys to Kinvara a she tried to revive her, it would fail and she would remain dead.
It has been pointed out that Narth is deadly to outsiders, so if the Unsullied travel there it will lead to their inevitable deaths, much like Jon being reunited with Ghost and the wildlings and traveling to the true north to finally live in peace, it is a case of Karma being cashed in without being too overt.
[[WMG: If a Red Priest(ess) tried to resurrect Daenerys it won't work.]]
It is stated that the lord of light revive people because they still have a part to play in his plan, Beric was needed to save Arya so she could kill the night king, and it would appear Jon was needed to kill ''Daenerys'', if the foretold 'dawn' is in fact the new era of elective monarchy over a hereditary one then any part Daenerys played in the grand plan has been played, indeed given her behavior in the finale, her returning would make things worse, with her attempting to reclaim what was taken again and likely enact revenge on the Starks. So if Drogon took Daenerys to Kinvara a she tried to revive her, it would fail and she would remain dead.
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[[WMG: The unnamed Prince of Dorne in Season 8 = either a legitimized bastard of Oberyn, or Quentyn]]
* The unnamed prince uses the Martell sigil, so he has to be a family member. The actor stated that he researched Pedro Pascal's performance as Oberyn for inspiration, which is another clue. Also, he resembles what a younger Doran Martell probably would have looked like.
** In ''ASOIAF'' Trystane is Doran's third child, having two older siblings, a brother and a sister, ahead of him in line for rulership of Dorne (unlike other Westerosi regions, Dorne arranges the line of succession by age regardless of gender.) Quentyn doesn't survive ASOIAF due to an event that likely wouldn't have happened in the show because of timelines being switched around. He may have been away visiting his mother in Norvos (something he mentions wishing to do in the books) when the crap hit the fan in Dorne. He may have also, in this continuity, [[SolomonDivorce been taken away with his mother when his parents separated, with Trystane being left with his father.]] Naturally, after the Sand coup, someone likely gets hold of him in Norvos and informs him that he should come and take his place in Sunspear as Prince of Dorne.
** Equally possible that Oberyn may have fathered a bastard son that Daenerys legitimized and placed on the throne in Dorne in exchange for his support (similarly to what she did with Gendry). For sake of simplicity, Oberyn's [[MassiveNumberedSiblings eight bastard daughters]] in the books were [[CompositeCharacter reduced to three]]. Although a fourth (implied to be only a little girl) is [[TheGhost named but never seen.]] Either way for a man that was, as Tyrion once so eloquently put it, "famous for fucking half of Westeros," and had traveled to other lands as well (in the series Nymeria Sand seems to have heritage from the world's counterpart to East Asia, Yi Ti, which is on the ''far'' side of Essos) it would almost strain credulity for Oberyn to have not had bastard children that even ''he'' didn't know about. Robert had several by prostitutes just in King's Landing alone.
* The unnamed prince uses the Martell sigil, so he has to be a family member. The actor stated that he researched Pedro Pascal's performance as Oberyn for inspiration, which is another clue. Also, he resembles what a younger Doran Martell probably would have looked like.
** In ''ASOIAF'' Trystane is Doran's third child, having two older siblings, a brother and a sister, ahead of him in line for rulership of Dorne (unlike other Westerosi regions, Dorne arranges the line of succession by age regardless of gender.) Quentyn doesn't survive ASOIAF due to an event that likely wouldn't have happened in the show because of timelines being switched around. He may have been away visiting his mother in Norvos (something he mentions wishing to do in the books) when the crap hit the fan in Dorne. He may have also, in this continuity, [[SolomonDivorce been taken away with his mother when his parents separated, with Trystane being left with his father.]] Naturally, after the Sand coup, someone likely gets hold of him in Norvos and informs him that he should come and take his place in Sunspear as Prince of Dorne.
** Equally possible that Oberyn may have fathered a bastard son that Daenerys legitimized and placed on the throne in Dorne in exchange for his support (similarly to what she did with Gendry). For sake of simplicity, Oberyn's [[MassiveNumberedSiblings eight bastard daughters]] in the books were [[CompositeCharacter reduced to three]]. Although a fourth (implied to be only a little girl) is [[TheGhost named but never seen.]] Either way for a man that was, as Tyrion once so eloquently put it, "famous for fucking half of Westeros," and had traveled to other lands as well (in the series Nymeria Sand seems to have heritage from the world's counterpart to East Asia, Yi Ti, which is on the ''far'' side of Essos) it would almost strain credulity for Oberyn to have not had bastard children that even ''he'' didn't know about. Robert had several by prostitutes just in King's Landing alone.
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oh wait he can warg ravens
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[[WMG: Bran can not warg a dragon (or any other non-mammal) without incurring significant brain damage, if it's even possible]]
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[[WMG: Bran can not warg a dragon (or any other non-mammal) (and certain species of animals) without incurring significant brain damage, if it's even possible]]
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[[WMG: And if the resurrection works, Daenerys will become the Melisandre of the next era]]
Even if the resurrection works, and even if it doesn't cause permanent brain damage like in the books, Daenerys is a broken woman. King's Landing sees her as another Cersei because of her purge. Her closest followers are either dead or traitors or just plain MIA. Two of her dragons died. Her rightful claim to the throne, the very hope that kept her going through dirt and ridicule, was a complete lie. And her beloved, the man who had the true claim, stabbed her to death at her most vulnerable moment. All she has left is Drogon, who needs his mother. So she accepts the 'gift' of immortality, to care for her remaining child and to repent for centuries. And thousands of years later, a new eldritch threat arises. Armed with the dragon-magic she has learned, Daenerys prepares to take the role that the mysterious priestess of the Lord of Light played for her so long ago.
[[WMG: Bran can not warg a dragon (or any other non-mammal) without incurring significant brain damage, if it's even possible]]
Which explains why he doesn't force Drogon to eat his own mother or simply take another vacation eating livestock and burning children; the mind of a dragon is effectively alien compared to humans and other mammals. Also explains why Bran doesn't warg the parasites in the bodies of others to get busy and eat towards the brain.
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Yeah, I was. I knew that was a longshot.
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The fourth wall will be completely demolished, the characters will rebel against the writers for all the crap they've put them through, and Jon will execute {=D&D=} Weiss and Beinoff with a sword in a CallBack to Ned performing an execution in the first episode.
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[[WMG: Daenerys will be resurrected by the Lord of Light]]
Sam mentions that Drogon was last seen flying East but is cut off by Bronn before he can finish, however if one listens closely he says 'towards Volantis'. Volantis is home to the Red Temple where the High Priestess Kinvara served. Given how intelligent Drogon is, it's possible he knew to take his mommy to someone that would bring her back. Kinvara believed that Dany was the 'Princess who was Promised' and, much like Melisandre did for Jon Snow, would certainly try to bring her back from the dead.
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