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[[WMG: Tyler Durden is [[CharClone A CHAR]]]]

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A variation of the theory above is that Tyler Durden is the spirit of a ''pishtaco'' or ''ñakaq'', a folkloric monster figure from the Andes that collects human fat and body grease, often for the purpose of commodifying them (traditionally connoted with a white or mestizo person by indigenous peoples, likely due to actual instances of exploitation from the Spanish colonial and post-independence periods). The Narrator's vestigial ethical boundaries were enough to prevent Durden from gathering the fat through outright murder, motivating them to jointly steal it from liposuction clinics instead, but the Narrator's latent subversive and revolutionary tendencies ended up channeling the destructive energies of the ''pishtaco'' in different ways, thematically tying into works such as [[Creator/MarioVargasLlosa Mario Vargas Llosa's]] ''Death in
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A variation of the theory above is that Tyler Durden is the spirit of a ''pishtaco'' or ''ñakaq'', a folkloric monster figure from the Andes that collects human fat and body grease, often for the purpose of commodifying them (traditionally connoted with a white or mestizo person by indigenous peoples, likely due to actual instances of exploitation from the Spanish colonial and post-independence periods). The Narrator's vestigial ethical boundaries were enough to prevent Durden from gathering the fat through outright murder, motivating them to jointly steal it from liposuction clinics instead, but the Narrator's latent subversive and revolutionary tendencies ended up channeling the destructive energies of the ''pishtaco'' in different ways, thematically tying into works such as [[Creator/MarioVargasLlosa Mario Vargas Llosa's]] ''Death in
in the Andes''.
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A variation of the theory above is that Tyler Durden is the spirit of a ''pishtaco'' or ''ñakaq'', a folkloric monster figure from the Andes that collects human fat and body grease, often for the purpose of commodifying them (traditionally connoted with a white or mestizo person by indigenous peoples, likely due to instances of exploitation from the Spanish colonial and post-independence periods). The Narrator's vestigial ethical boundaries were enough to prevent Durden from gathering the fat through outright murder, motivating them to jointly steal it from liposuction clinics instead, but the Narrator's latent subversive and revolutionary tendencies ended up channeling the destructive energies of the ''pishtaco'' in different ways, thematically tying into works such as [[Creator/MarioVargasLlosa Mario Vargas Llosa's]] ''Death in

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A variation of the theory above is that Tyler Durden is the spirit of a ''pishtaco'' or ''ñakaq'', a folkloric monster figure from the Andes that collects human fat and body grease, often for the purpose of commodifying them (traditionally connoted with a white or mestizo person by indigenous peoples, likely due to actual instances of exploitation from the Spanish colonial and post-independence periods). The Narrator's vestigial ethical boundaries were enough to prevent Durden from gathering the fat through outright murder, motivating them to jointly steal it from liposuction clinics instead, but the Narrator's latent subversive and revolutionary tendencies ended up channeling the destructive energies of the ''pishtaco'' in different ways, thematically tying into works such as [[Creator/MarioVargasLlosa Mario Vargas Llosa's]] ''Death in
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[[WMG: Tyler Durden is a ''pishtaco'' or ''ñakaq''.]]
A variation of the theory above is that Tyler Durden is the spirit of a ''pishtaco'' or ''ñakaq'', a folkloric monster figure from the Andes that collects human fat and body grease, often for the purpose of commodifying them (traditionally connoted with a white or mestizo person by indigenous peoples, likely due to instances of exploitation from the Spanish colonial and post-independence periods). The Narrator's vestigial ethical boundaries were enough to prevent Durden from gathering the fat through outright murder, motivating them to jointly steal it from liposuction clinics instead, but the Narrator's latent subversive and revolutionary tendencies ended up channeling the destructive energies of the ''pishtaco'' in different ways, thematically tying into works such as [[Creator/MarioVargasLlosa Mario Vargas Llosa's]] ''Death in
the Andes''.
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[[WMG: The Narrator is Davey Johnson from ''Film/CloakAndDagger'']]

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[[ As described by artist Tailsteak]]:

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[[ [[http://www.leftoversoup.com/archive.php?num=859 As described by artist Tailsteak]]:
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[[WMG: Tyler Durden is a demon.]]
[[ As described by artist Tailsteak]]:
-->Jack (fuck it, we're calling him Jack) has various mental problems, yes, but nothing that would jive with either current understandings of dissociative identity disorder or classic movie-style multiple personalities. No, Tyler Durden slides into Jack's mind disguised as a penguin, an entity from outside of Jack's self that enters Jack's weakened brain while he's engaged in meditation (heathen mysticism, you see). [...] Oh, and backing up the "demon" motif, note how the whole operation is financed with human flesh and marked with desecration of human anatomy for essentially no practical reason. So, once one has a cult to control, what's the easiest way to hurt the most people - to cause the greatest sum total of human suffering, in the short time you have before the whole mess falls apart? Well, why not wipe out their bank accounts? [...] Once his desperate attempt to stop Project Mayhem has failed, Jack shoots himself, and Tyler leaves - not because he has been defeated, but because he has won. Tyler no longer needs Jack or Project Mayhem. The detonations go off as planned. Tyler, the demon, has caused absolutely titanic human suffering, and no doubt will be handsomely rewarded once he returns home to hell.
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[[WMG: The Narrator is one of the [[TabletopGames/DontRestYourHead awake.]]]]

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[[WMG: The Narrator is one of the [[{{DontRestYourHead}} awake.]]]]

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* As a crackpot crossover theory building on the "closeted trans woman" theory, maybe the Narrator skipped town at the end of the story, transitioned, and pursued an acting career under the name [[Film/PulpFiction Mia Wallace]].
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[[WMG: The Narrator is trans.]]
A trans man struggling to make it in the world as a guy, or a closeted trans woman? You decide!

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* But eventually, secret fight clubs will actually crop up, which take the rules [[SeriousBusiness very seriously]] and add new ones. Those are
** Anyone caught talking about Fight Club out in the open will be [[{{Unperson}} eternally kayoed]].
** Anyone caught infiltrating Fight Club will remain on the premises forever as a punching dummy to practice on.
** Anyone who [[ResignationsNotAccepted stays away from Fight Club for too long, will be hunted down]], brought back to Fight Club and be forced to fight as long as they draw breath.
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[[WMG:The first rule was meant to be broken]]

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* Tyler's insistence on keeping the club a secret is because 1) he knows it'll make the members want to shout it from the rooftops - forbidden fruit & all that; but 2) it's their first step into disobeying rules, making them comfortable with the idea so he can get them committing acts of urban vandalism and culture-jamming.
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As this is a Wild Mass Guessing page, beware of unmarked spoilers for ''Fight Club''.

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As this is a Wild Mass Guessing page, beware of unmarked spoilers for ''Fight Club''.
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[[WMG: Marla is a [[{{Transgender}} trans]] woman.]]

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[[WMG: Marla is a [[{{Transgender}} trans]] trans woman.]]
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*** And he sees air travel tickets issued by the name of Tyler Durden.
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* Indeed, in the book the Narrator at one time almost openly wonders if Marla and ''Tyler'' aren't the same person, as they can never be seen together. So considering who Tyler really is...
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* What makes it even more plausible is the fact that Tyler encouraging the Narrator to "keep it up" with his passive cleverness doesn't sound like something "real" Tyler would say.

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* What makes it even more plausible is the fact that Tyler encouraging the Narrator to "keep it up" with his passive cleverness doesn't sound like something "real" Tyler would say.say (though admittedly it's still a very early stage of him diverging from "Jack").

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* This troper would say that the quip at the beginning makes it canon, at least to some degree.


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* What makes it even more plausible is the fact that Tyler encouraging the Narrator to "keep it up" with his passive cleverness doesn't sound like something "real" Tyler would say.
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[[WMG: The scene where the Narrator meets Tyler on the plane really happened exactly as we saw it.]]
The Narrator, an nerdy, insecure, deeply depressed guy, meets this handsome, clever, very charismatic man on a plane. They talk for the couple of hours they're on the flight together. Tyler is, as the Narrator says, the most interesting "one-serving friend" he's ever had. Tyler gives him his card, they part ways at the airport. The Narrator goes home, calls Tyler, and gets no answer... and the imagines Tyler calling him back. The split personality has been brewing for his mind for months (if not years), but meeting Tyler (the real one) gave it a face and a name. Something about Tyler sticks in the Narrator's mind, growing attached despite not really knowing him, and he soon sees himself befriending him, living with him, and, of course, starting Fight Club with him. (This especially works if you believe the Narrator is a closeted gay or bisexual man, as some AlternativeCharacterInterpretation posits -- he both wants to ''be'' Tyler, and be ''with'' him.)

As for them having the same suitcase? Well, lots of people own a plain black suitcase. That was just an everyday coincidence.
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[[WMG: Tyler Durden is [[CharClone A CHAR]]]]
Blond? Check. Red jacket? Check. Multiple identities? Check. [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Grandiose plans to bring down the world's corrupt civilization that are really just him acting out his weird mommy issues]]? Check and mate.
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[[WMG: Tyler's last name is an Anglicization of [[Literature/TheLegendOfDrizzt Do'Urden]]]]
The Narrator seems like the kind of person who'd be into ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' as a youth and Drizzt is frequently accused of being a CanonSue, so it makes a kind of sense he would be part of the (probably unconscious) inspiration for the Narrator's idealized self.
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[[WMG: The Tyler Durden is the hotel welcome video is real]]
When the narrator was subconsciously building Tyler in his mind he hadn't completely figured out how Tyler would look, until he saw the Brad Pitt lookalike in the welcome video, and thought that's how he wished he looked, giving Tyler an appearance.
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[[WMG:The narrator is [[spoiler:Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes]] (spoiler for [[NightmareFuel childhood-destroying]] PoisonOakEpilepticTrees)]]

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** Possible in the film, but not the case in the original novel, since the narrator at one point shows Marla his driver's license to prove Tyler Durden is a name he just made up.


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[[WMG: The Narrator's real name is [[ComicBook/FightClub2 Sebastian]]]]
In the comic book sequel to the novel, the narrator gives Sebastian as his name. It is, of course, possible he's using it to avoid giving his real name, such as with Cornelius, but there are two big factors that help make the Sebastian case: both Tyler and Marla use the name. Tyler absolutely knows what the narrator's real name is, since they share a mind, and, per the novel, Marla knows his real name since he shows her his driver's license at one point in the novel.
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[[WMG: Marla is a [[{{Transsexual}} trans]] woman.]]

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As this is a Wild Mass Guessing page, beware of unmarked spoilers for ''FightClub''.

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* Building on the first half of that WMG, ''FightClub'' is a prequel to ''[[spoiler: The Killing Joke]]''. The Narrator (now married to Marla) tries to go back to being a working man, but he just can't bring himself to do it. He quits his job at a [[spoiler: chemical plant]] (since Tyler taught him plenty about that) and tries to take on a more carefree career as a [[spoiler: stand-up comedian]]. When that fails, Marla (who reveals she is pregnant) gives him an ultimatum to find a way to provide for his new family. In desperation, he gathers up some of the old Space Monkeys to rob the [[spoiler: chemical plant]] he used to work at. The robbery is botched, and The Narrator is [[spoiler: knocked into a vat of chemicals]]. On top of it all, he learns that Marla died in a freak accident. This, coupled with his disfigurement, pushes him over the edge into becoming [[spoiler: The Joker]].

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* Building on the first half of that WMG, ''FightClub'' ''Fight Club'' is a prequel to ''[[spoiler: The Killing Joke]]''. The Narrator (now married to Marla) tries to go back to being a working man, but he just can't bring himself to do it. He quits his job at a [[spoiler: chemical plant]] (since Tyler taught him plenty about that) and tries to take on a more carefree career as a [[spoiler: stand-up comedian]]. When that fails, Marla (who reveals she is pregnant) gives him an ultimatum to find a way to provide for his new family. In desperation, he gathers up some of the old Space Monkeys to rob the [[spoiler: chemical plant]] he used to work at. The robbery is botched, and The Narrator is [[spoiler: knocked into a vat of chemicals]]. On top of it all, he learns that Marla died in a freak accident. This, coupled with his disfigurement, pushes him over the edge into becoming [[spoiler: The Joker]].

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