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** While most adaptions of the story uses genetic engineering for Moreau's creations, the original novel actually uses vivisection, since it predates the discovery of genetics and DNA. Hence the House of Pain location in the novel, as the surgeries Moreau performs on his unwilling experiments are both unnatural and incredibly painful for the subjects.
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** While most adaptions of the story uses use genetic engineering for Moreau's creations, the original novel actually uses vivisection, since it predates the discovery of genetics and DNA. Hence the House of Pain location in the novel, as the surgeries Moreau performs on his unwilling experiments are both unnatural and incredibly painful for the subjects.
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* ScienceMarchesOn: Wells states that the changes to the animals are the result of various surgical techniques. Later adaptations of the same story state that [[GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke genetic engineering]] is responsible for altering the animals.
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** While Wells' concept here clearly ranked things UpToEleven, in his day some of this was probably expected to what the body modification perspective looked like. In later decades some became more accepted in more respected institutions, but this is again the reason someone like Moreau is working out of some hole in the wall island and not at a university.
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** While Wells' concept here clearly ranked took things UpToEleven, to much higher levels, in his day some of this was probably expected to what the body modification perspective looked like. In later decades some became more accepted in more respected institutions, but this is again the reason someone like Moreau is working out of some hole in the wall island and not at a university.
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* TechnologyMarchesOn: While most adaptions of the story uses genetic engineering for Moreau's creations, the original novel actually uses vivisection, since it predates the discovery of genetics and DNA. Hence the House of Pain location in the novel, as the surgeries Moreau performs on his unwilling experiments are both unnatural and incredibly painful for the subjects.
** While Wells' concept here clearly ranked things UpToEleven, in his day some of this was probably expected to what the body modification perspective looked like. In later decades some became more accepted in more respected institutions, but this is again the reason someone like Moreau is working out of some hole in the wall island and not at a university.
** While Wells' concept here clearly ranked things UpToEleven, in his day some of this was probably expected to what the body modification perspective looked like. In later decades some became more accepted in more respected institutions, but this is again the reason someone like Moreau is working out of some hole in the wall island and not at a university.
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** While most adaptions of the story uses genetic engineering for Moreau's creations, the original novel actually uses vivisection, since it predates the discovery of genetics and DNA. Hence the House of Pain location in the novel, as the surgeries Moreau performs on his unwilling experiments are both unnatural and incredibly painful for the subjects.
** While Wells' concept here clearly ranked things UpToEleven, in his day some of this was probably expected to what the body modification perspective looked like. In later decades some became more accepted in more respected institutions, but this is again the reason someone like Moreau is working out of some hole in the wall island and not at auniversity.university.
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** While most adaptions of the story uses genetic engineering for Moreau's creations, the original novel actually uses vivisection, since it predates the discovery of genetics and DNA. Hence the House of Pain location in the novel, as the surgeries Moreau performs on his unwilling experiments are both unnatural and incredibly painful for the subjects.
** While Wells' concept here clearly ranked things UpToEleven, in his day some of this was probably expected to what the body modification perspective looked like. In later decades some became more accepted in more respected institutions, but this is again the reason someone like Moreau is working out of some hole in the wall island and not at a
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!The Book
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!The Movie
* ActorInspiredElement: It was Creator/MarlonBrando's idea for Doctor Moreau's chair to have peacock feathers on it. The art director managed to get them from a peacock at a nearby farm. He also suggested that Doctor Moreau resemble The Pope, as he felt that he was blaspheming against nature.
* AwesomeDearBoy: Creator/RonPerlman, Creator/ValKilmer and Creator/DavidThewlis signed due to the prospect of working with Creator/MarlonBrando (Thewlis also had the motivations of a trip to Australia and a nice paycheck).
* BillingDisplacement: Protagonist Edward Douglas (David Thewlis) is nowhere in the cover, unlike both Moreau himself (Creator/MarlonBrando) and Dr. Montgomery (Creator/ValKilmer).
* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $40 million. Box office, $27,663,982 (domestic), $49,627,779 (worldwide). Not so with the 1977 version however.
* CastTheRunnerUp: Creator/ValKilmer was originally cast in the lead role. When he found out he was getting a divorce, he tried to get his part reduced by 40%. That was impossible, so he took the role of Montgomery.
* ContractualObligationProject: Creator/ValKilmer wanted to drop out of the film in order to deal with his ongoing divorce, but he was contractually obliged to stay on.
* CreatorBreakdown: Creator/ValKilmer was going through a divorce, while Creator/MarlonBrando was dealing with the suicide of his daughter and accusations of nuclear testing at an atoll he owned. The original director had a nervous breakdown after being fired. And that's just the start of it.
* DeletedScene: The original ending of the 1977 version revealed Maria was actually one of the beastfolk, more specifically a feline, as when she and Andrew are being rescued at sea she was shown to have fangs and panther-like eyes. Stills of this ending still exist and the scenes hinting at her nature still persist in the final cut, but for some reason the ending shot of her reveal was cut.
* HostilityOnTheSet: Creator/ValKilmer and Creator/MarlonBrando made things difficult to the point the original director got fired, and Creator/JohnFrankenheimer was hired partially because he had a history of controlling inflated egos. Frankenheimer was reported to have shouted "Cut! Now get that bastard off my set!" once Kilmer had no more scenes left, and stated after release that "There are two things I will never do in my life. I will never climb Mount Everest, and I will never work with Val Kilmer again. There isn't enough money in the world." Even Brando got fed up with Kilmer, telling him, "You're confusing your talent with the size of your paycheck". There was one reported incident where the actors playing Moreau's creations, having spent hours in makeup, were kept waiting because Brando and Kilmer refused to come out of their trailers until the other did.
* MethodActing: Creator/RonPerlman's character is blind. Perlman had lenses put over his eyes so he actually played the role blind.
* OldShame: Creator/DavidThewlis had such a horrible time doing this he skipped the premiere and vowed to never watch the movie. Fairuza Balk had grown close to Richard Stanley during the pre-production. When Stanley was fired, Balk attempted to leave the production; she only continued out of contractual obligation and is not proud of the film.
* TheOtherMarty: Creator/RobMorrow was originally cast as Edward, but quit when Richard Stanley was fired. He was replaced by David Thewlis, who, ironically, was one of the actors Stanley wanted but couldn't get.
* ThrowItIn: Since Creator/JohnFrankenheimer was a total PromotedFanboy of Creator/MarlonBrando, whatever Brando wanted, Brando got.
** One scene has Moreau wearing an ice bucket on his head, because Brando showed up with it and no one had the guts to ask him to take it off.
* TroubledProduction: Hoo boy, did this one go through hell getting to the screen, and the final result shows how bad it was. It was the subject of a 2014 documentary, ''Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley’s Island of Dr. Moreau'', which only scratched the surface as to [[http://www.pajiba.com/seriously_random_lists/the-real-story-behind-the-island-of-dr-moreau-is-way-more-bonkers-than-the-movie-itself-.php how insane things got.]]
** To start with, director Richard Stanley feared that he might be kicked off the production and replaced with Creator/RomanPolanski before a single frame was even shot, as Creator/NewLineCinema had little faith in his ability to helm a big-budget blockbuster, so he enlisted a British warlock to carry out a blood magic ritual to ensure his job security and get star Creator/MarlonBrando (who played Dr. Moreau and enthusiastically endorsed Stanley's vision for the film) to vouch for him at meetings. One could say that [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor it worked]], as he kept his job, but things started going wrong almost from the moment production started up near Cairns, Queensland. The boat bringing the exotic animals to the set got caught in a hurricane, and Stanley stayed on the ship to ensure the animals' safety -- which meant that he got peed on by a restless puma.
** Creator/BruceWillis was originally cast as Edward Douglas, but had to drop out due to the proceedings for his divorce from Creator/DemiMoore preventing him from leaving the USA. Willis was replaced by Creator/ValKilmer -- who immediately started behaving like a prima donna, demanding a 40% cut in the days he was required on set and the construction of a treehouse to "get into character", having Marco Hofschneider’s role heavily cut down to avoid being outshined, and frequently butting heads with Stanley to the point that all of his footage from the first few days of filming was deemed unusable. As such, he was recast in the smaller part of Dr. Montgomery so as to limit the amount of damage he could do; the part of Douglas was recast with Rob Morrow, but he only lasted two days before the sheer hostility on set led him to drop out, causing him to be replaced in turn with David Thewlis. (Kilmer attributes his obnoxious behavior to learning, upon the start of filming, that his own wife was suing him for divorce.)
** Speaking of Thewlis, he joined the production due to [[http://davidthewlis.net/index/press/1997-2/total-film-1997/ the prospect of travelling to Australia, working with Marlon Brando, and getting a hefty salary for it.]] He had such a terrible time making the film that he skipped the premiere and has vowed to never watch it.
** Brando, meanwhile, didn't show up to the set at all initially. His daughter Cheyenne had just killed herself, sending him into a deep depression that prevented him from even leaving his private island, let alone flying out to Australia. Not only did this force Stanley to shoot Kilmer's scenes first, but not having Brando to vouch for him left him more vulnerable to pressure from New Line. When he finally did get to the set, Brando proved to be almost as bad as Kilmer. He stopped trying to memorize lines and would hear from a radio receiver instead; according to Thewlis, the receiver also picked up ''other'' transmissions like police scanners, meaning Brando would randomly announce things like "there's been a robbery at Woolworth's" in the middle of a scene. Brando also had the script revised to give more screen time to Nelson de la Rosa, the "world's smallest man" who he'd befriended during filming, he and Kilmer got along spectacularly poorly, and in one famous instance, he wore a bucket on his head and refused to take it off; this wound up in the finished film.
** Stanley was eventually fired on the third day of shooting, and he did not take it well, destroying his notes, storyboards, and production art and then disappearing to a remote farm in the jungle, where he lived for two months. Co-star Creator/FairuzaBalk, upon learning of Stanley's firing, walked off the set in outrage and tried to escape the shoot with the help of one of the crew, only relenting upon being informed that, if she dropped out, her career would likely be ruined. Stanley would later be discovered by a number of crew members still loyal to him, and he was smuggled back to the set in disguise as an extra wearing a rubber dog mask (security had been tightened in case he tried to sabotage the film). Nobody was the wiser.
** Creator/JohnFrankenheimer took over after Stanley's firing, using New Line's desperation as leverage to secure a massive paycheck and a three-picture deal. He faced Kilmer and Brando on the same coin: [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,292752_3,00.html apparently]], he once replied to Kilmer with "I don't give a fuck. Get off my set!" And on another occasion, "Even if I was making a movie titled 'The Life of Val Kilmer', I wouldn't want that prick in it." (He had nothing but bad things to say about his experience directing Kilmer, and vowed to never work with him again.) Stanley's script was also discarded, and the new one was being rewritten on a daily basis. Frankenheimer's arrival was by all accounts a case of TyrantTakesTheHelm -- he was a very "old-fashioned" director whose dictatorial control of the production led to constant clashes with the cast, the crew, and the studio.
** The constant delays meant that the extras playing Moreau's "children" were frequently bored and had nothing to do... so they descended into sex, drugs, and all-around debauchery. Desperate for extras to replace them, Frankenheimer eventually hired some random hippies.
** The film finally entered theaters after a harrowing six-month shoot, whereupon it was met with a scathing reception and bombed at the box office.
** Majai, Moreau's MiniMook, was Nelson de la Rosa. The production hired him because of his 2'4" height to play a fetal creature. What the producers didn't know was that de la Rosa was famous in South America. Brando met him on the set, and immediately took a liking to him, replacing Daniel Rigney's TheDragon role with de la Rosa, expanding his original role as background.
* WagTheDirector: Both Creator/MarlonBrando and Creator/ValKilmer did this. And it was worse before Creator/JohnFrankenheimer joined the production!
** Brando at one point conceived of an entire alternate backstory and ending for Moreau -- he would never be seen without a hat of some kind, until it would be knocked off during the climax and reveal he himself was a human-dolphin hybrid with a blowhole. Fortunately (or unfortunately), Stanley said no.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** [[http://www.everythingisundercontrol.org/nagtloper/write/moreauscript.php/ Richard Stanley's original version]].
** Stanley's original cast consisted of Creator/BruceWillis as Edward and Creator/JamesWoods as Montgomery.
** Stanley originally envisioned Creator/JurgenProchnow as Doctor Moreau.
** Creator/JamesSpader was considered for Edward Douglas.
** Creator/GaryOldman turned down the role of either Edward or Montgomery, as he was in rehab at the time.
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!The Movie
* ActorInspiredElement: It was Creator/MarlonBrando's idea for Doctor Moreau's chair to have peacock feathers on it. The art director managed to get them from a peacock at a nearby farm. He also suggested that Doctor Moreau resemble The Pope, as he felt that he was blaspheming against nature.
* AwesomeDearBoy: Creator/RonPerlman, Creator/ValKilmer and Creator/DavidThewlis signed due to the prospect of working with Creator/MarlonBrando (Thewlis also had the motivations of a trip to Australia and a nice paycheck).
* BillingDisplacement: Protagonist Edward Douglas (David Thewlis) is nowhere in the cover, unlike both Moreau himself (Creator/MarlonBrando) and Dr. Montgomery (Creator/ValKilmer).
* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $40 million. Box office, $27,663,982 (domestic), $49,627,779 (worldwide). Not so with the 1977 version however.
* CastTheRunnerUp: Creator/ValKilmer was originally cast in the lead role. When he found out he was getting a divorce, he tried to get his part reduced by 40%. That was impossible, so he took the role of Montgomery.
* ContractualObligationProject: Creator/ValKilmer wanted to drop out of the film in order to deal with his ongoing divorce, but he was contractually obliged to stay on.
* CreatorBreakdown: Creator/ValKilmer was going through a divorce, while Creator/MarlonBrando was dealing with the suicide of his daughter and accusations of nuclear testing at an atoll he owned. The original director had a nervous breakdown after being fired. And that's just the start of it.
* DeletedScene: The original ending of the 1977 version revealed Maria was actually one of the beastfolk, more specifically a feline, as when she and Andrew are being rescued at sea she was shown to have fangs and panther-like eyes. Stills of this ending still exist and the scenes hinting at her nature still persist in the final cut, but for some reason the ending shot of her reveal was cut.
* HostilityOnTheSet: Creator/ValKilmer and Creator/MarlonBrando made things difficult to the point the original director got fired, and Creator/JohnFrankenheimer was hired partially because he had a history of controlling inflated egos. Frankenheimer was reported to have shouted "Cut! Now get that bastard off my set!" once Kilmer had no more scenes left, and stated after release that "There are two things I will never do in my life. I will never climb Mount Everest, and I will never work with Val Kilmer again. There isn't enough money in the world." Even Brando got fed up with Kilmer, telling him, "You're confusing your talent with the size of your paycheck". There was one reported incident where the actors playing Moreau's creations, having spent hours in makeup, were kept waiting because Brando and Kilmer refused to come out of their trailers until the other did.
* MethodActing: Creator/RonPerlman's character is blind. Perlman had lenses put over his eyes so he actually played the role blind.
* OldShame: Creator/DavidThewlis had such a horrible time doing this he skipped the premiere and vowed to never watch the movie. Fairuza Balk had grown close to Richard Stanley during the pre-production. When Stanley was fired, Balk attempted to leave the production; she only continued out of contractual obligation and is not proud of the film.
* TheOtherMarty: Creator/RobMorrow was originally cast as Edward, but quit when Richard Stanley was fired. He was replaced by David Thewlis, who, ironically, was one of the actors Stanley wanted but couldn't get.
* ThrowItIn: Since Creator/JohnFrankenheimer was a total PromotedFanboy of Creator/MarlonBrando, whatever Brando wanted, Brando got.
** One scene has Moreau wearing an ice bucket on his head, because Brando showed up with it and no one had the guts to ask him to take it off.
* TroubledProduction: Hoo boy, did this one go through hell getting to the screen, and the final result shows how bad it was. It was the subject of a 2014 documentary, ''Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley’s Island of Dr. Moreau'', which only scratched the surface as to [[http://www.pajiba.com/seriously_random_lists/the-real-story-behind-the-island-of-dr-moreau-is-way-more-bonkers-than-the-movie-itself-.php how insane things got.]]
** To start with, director Richard Stanley feared that he might be kicked off the production and replaced with Creator/RomanPolanski before a single frame was even shot, as Creator/NewLineCinema had little faith in his ability to helm a big-budget blockbuster, so he enlisted a British warlock to carry out a blood magic ritual to ensure his job security and get star Creator/MarlonBrando (who played Dr. Moreau and enthusiastically endorsed Stanley's vision for the film) to vouch for him at meetings. One could say that [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor it worked]], as he kept his job, but things started going wrong almost from the moment production started up near Cairns, Queensland. The boat bringing the exotic animals to the set got caught in a hurricane, and Stanley stayed on the ship to ensure the animals' safety -- which meant that he got peed on by a restless puma.
** Creator/BruceWillis was originally cast as Edward Douglas, but had to drop out due to the proceedings for his divorce from Creator/DemiMoore preventing him from leaving the USA. Willis was replaced by Creator/ValKilmer -- who immediately started behaving like a prima donna, demanding a 40% cut in the days he was required on set and the construction of a treehouse to "get into character", having Marco Hofschneider’s role heavily cut down to avoid being outshined, and frequently butting heads with Stanley to the point that all of his footage from the first few days of filming was deemed unusable. As such, he was recast in the smaller part of Dr. Montgomery so as to limit the amount of damage he could do; the part of Douglas was recast with Rob Morrow, but he only lasted two days before the sheer hostility on set led him to drop out, causing him to be replaced in turn with David Thewlis. (Kilmer attributes his obnoxious behavior to learning, upon the start of filming, that his own wife was suing him for divorce.)
** Speaking of Thewlis, he joined the production due to [[http://davidthewlis.net/index/press/1997-2/total-film-1997/ the prospect of travelling to Australia, working with Marlon Brando, and getting a hefty salary for it.]] He had such a terrible time making the film that he skipped the premiere and has vowed to never watch it.
** Brando, meanwhile, didn't show up to the set at all initially. His daughter Cheyenne had just killed herself, sending him into a deep depression that prevented him from even leaving his private island, let alone flying out to Australia. Not only did this force Stanley to shoot Kilmer's scenes first, but not having Brando to vouch for him left him more vulnerable to pressure from New Line. When he finally did get to the set, Brando proved to be almost as bad as Kilmer. He stopped trying to memorize lines and would hear from a radio receiver instead; according to Thewlis, the receiver also picked up ''other'' transmissions like police scanners, meaning Brando would randomly announce things like "there's been a robbery at Woolworth's" in the middle of a scene. Brando also had the script revised to give more screen time to Nelson de la Rosa, the "world's smallest man" who he'd befriended during filming, he and Kilmer got along spectacularly poorly, and in one famous instance, he wore a bucket on his head and refused to take it off; this wound up in the finished film.
** Stanley was eventually fired on the third day of shooting, and he did not take it well, destroying his notes, storyboards, and production art and then disappearing to a remote farm in the jungle, where he lived for two months. Co-star Creator/FairuzaBalk, upon learning of Stanley's firing, walked off the set in outrage and tried to escape the shoot with the help of one of the crew, only relenting upon being informed that, if she dropped out, her career would likely be ruined. Stanley would later be discovered by a number of crew members still loyal to him, and he was smuggled back to the set in disguise as an extra wearing a rubber dog mask (security had been tightened in case he tried to sabotage the film). Nobody was the wiser.
** Creator/JohnFrankenheimer took over after Stanley's firing, using New Line's desperation as leverage to secure a massive paycheck and a three-picture deal. He faced Kilmer and Brando on the same coin: [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,292752_3,00.html apparently]], he once replied to Kilmer with "I don't give a fuck. Get off my set!" And on another occasion, "Even if I was making a movie titled 'The Life of Val Kilmer', I wouldn't want that prick in it." (He had nothing but bad things to say about his experience directing Kilmer, and vowed to never work with him again.) Stanley's script was also discarded, and the new one was being rewritten on a daily basis. Frankenheimer's arrival was by all accounts a case of TyrantTakesTheHelm -- he was a very "old-fashioned" director whose dictatorial control of the production led to constant clashes with the cast, the crew, and the studio.
** The constant delays meant that the extras playing Moreau's "children" were frequently bored and had nothing to do... so they descended into sex, drugs, and all-around debauchery. Desperate for extras to replace them, Frankenheimer eventually hired some random hippies.
** The film finally entered theaters after a harrowing six-month shoot, whereupon it was met with a scathing reception and bombed at the box office.
** Majai, Moreau's MiniMook, was Nelson de la Rosa. The production hired him because of his 2'4" height to play a fetal creature. What the producers didn't know was that de la Rosa was famous in South America. Brando met him on the set, and immediately took a liking to him, replacing Daniel Rigney's TheDragon role with de la Rosa, expanding his original role as background.
* WagTheDirector: Both Creator/MarlonBrando and Creator/ValKilmer did this. And it was worse before Creator/JohnFrankenheimer joined the production!
** Brando at one point conceived of an entire alternate backstory and ending for Moreau -- he would never be seen without a hat of some kind, until it would be knocked off during the climax and reveal he himself was a human-dolphin hybrid with a blowhole. Fortunately (or unfortunately), Stanley said no.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** [[http://www.everythingisundercontrol.org/nagtloper/write/moreauscript.php/ Richard Stanley's original version]].
** Stanley's original cast consisted of Creator/BruceWillis as Edward and Creator/JamesWoods as Montgomery.
** Stanley originally envisioned Creator/JurgenProchnow as Doctor Moreau.
** Creator/JamesSpader was considered for Edward Douglas.
** Creator/GaryOldman turned down the role of either Edward or Montgomery, as he was in rehab at the time.
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** While Wells' concept here clearly ranked things UpToEleven, in his day some of this was probably expected to what the body modification perspective looked like. In later decades some became more accepted in more respected institutions, but this is again the reason someone like Moreau is working out of some hole in the wall island and not at a university. \n\n\n!The Movie\n* ActorInspiredElement: It was Creator/MarlonBrando's idea for Doctor Moreau's chair to have peacock feathers on it. The art director managed to get them from a peacock at a nearby farm. He also suggested that Doctor Moreau resemble The Pope, as he felt that he was blaspheming against nature.\n* AwesomeDearBoy: Creator/RonPerlman, Creator/ValKilmer and Creator/DavidThewlis signed due to the prospect of working with Creator/MarlonBrando (Thewlis also had the motivations of a trip to Australia and a nice paycheck).\n* BillingDisplacement: Protagonist Edward Douglas (David Thewlis) is nowhere in the cover, unlike both Moreau himself (Creator/MarlonBrando) and Dr. Montgomery (Creator/ValKilmer).\n* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $40 million. Box office, $27,663,982 (domestic), $49,627,779 (worldwide). Not so with the 1977 version however.\n* CastTheRunnerUp: Creator/ValKilmer was originally cast in the lead role. When he found out he was getting a divorce, he tried to get his part reduced by 40%. That was impossible, so he took the role of Montgomery.\n* ContractualObligationProject: Creator/ValKilmer wanted to drop out of the film in order to deal with his ongoing divorce, but he was contractually obliged to stay on.\n* CreatorBreakdown: Creator/ValKilmer was going through a divorce, while Creator/MarlonBrando was dealing with the suicide of his daughter and accusations of nuclear testing at an atoll he owned. The original director had a nervous breakdown after being fired. And that's just the start of it.\n* DeletedScene: The original ending of the 1977 version revealed Maria was actually one of the beastfolk, more specifically a feline, as when she and Andrew are being rescued at sea she was shown to have fangs and panther-like eyes. Stills of this ending still exist and the scenes hinting at her nature still persist in the final cut, but for some reason the ending shot of her reveal was cut.\n* HostilityOnTheSet: Creator/ValKilmer and Creator/MarlonBrando made things difficult to the point the original director got fired, and Creator/JohnFrankenheimer was hired partially because he had a history of controlling inflated egos. Frankenheimer was reported to have shouted "Cut! Now get that bastard off my set!" once Kilmer had no more scenes left, and stated after release that "There are two things I will never do in my life. I will never climb Mount Everest, and I will never work with Val Kilmer again. There isn't enough money in the world." Even Brando got fed up with Kilmer, telling him, "You're confusing your talent with the size of your paycheck". There was one reported incident where the actors playing Moreau's creations, having spent hours in makeup, were kept waiting because Brando and Kilmer refused to come out of their trailers until the other did.\n* MethodActing: Creator/RonPerlman's character is blind. Perlman had lenses put over his eyes so he actually played the role blind.\n* OldShame: Creator/DavidThewlis had such a horrible time doing this he skipped the premiere and vowed to never watch the movie. Fairuza Balk had grown close to Richard Stanley during the pre-production. When Stanley was fired, Balk attempted to leave the production; she only continued out of contractual obligation and is not proud of the film.\n* TheOtherMarty: Creator/RobMorrow was originally cast as Edward, but quit when Richard Stanley was fired. He was replaced by David Thewlis, who, ironically, was one of the actors Stanley wanted but couldn't get.\n* ThrowItIn: Since Creator/JohnFrankenheimer was a total PromotedFanboy of Creator/MarlonBrando, whatever Brando wanted, Brando got.\n** One scene has Moreau wearing an ice bucket on his head, because Brando showed up with it and no one had the guts to ask him to take it off.\n* TroubledProduction: Hoo boy, did this one go through hell getting to the screen, and the final result shows how bad it was. It was the subject of a 2014 documentary, ''Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley’s Island of Dr. Moreau'', which only scratched the surface as to [[http://www.pajiba.com/seriously_random_lists/the-real-story-behind-the-island-of-dr-moreau-is-way-more-bonkers-than-the-movie-itself-.php how insane things got.]]\n** To start with, director Richard Stanley feared that he might be kicked off the production and replaced with Creator/RomanPolanski before a single frame was even shot, as Creator/NewLineCinema had little faith in his ability to helm a big-budget blockbuster, so he enlisted a British warlock to carry out a blood magic ritual to ensure his job security and get star Creator/MarlonBrando (who played Dr. Moreau and enthusiastically endorsed Stanley's vision for the film) to vouch for him at meetings. One could say that [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor it worked]], as he kept his job, but things started going wrong almost from the moment production started up near Cairns, Queensland. The boat bringing the exotic animals to the set got caught in a hurricane, and Stanley stayed on the ship to ensure the animals' safety -- which meant that he got peed on by a restless puma.\n** Creator/BruceWillis was originally cast as Edward Douglas, but had to drop out due to the proceedings for his divorce from Creator/DemiMoore preventing him from leaving the USA. Willis was replaced by Creator/ValKilmer -- who immediately started behaving like a prima donna, demanding a 40% cut in the days he was required on set and the construction of a treehouse to "get into character", having Marco Hofschneider’s role heavily cut down to avoid being outshined, and frequently butting heads with Stanley to the point that all of his footage from the first few days of filming was deemed unusable. As such, he was recast in the smaller part of Dr. Montgomery so as to limit the amount of damage he could do; the part of Douglas was recast with Rob Morrow, but he only lasted two days before the sheer hostility on set led him to drop out, causing him to be replaced in turn with David Thewlis. (Kilmer attributes his obnoxious behavior to learning, upon the start of filming, that his own wife was suing him for divorce.)\n** Speaking of Thewlis, he joined the production due to [[http://davidthewlis.net/index/press/1997-2/total-film-1997/ the prospect of travelling to Australia, working with Marlon Brando, and getting a hefty salary for it.]] He had such a terrible time making the film that he skipped the premiere and has vowed to never watch it.\n** Brando, meanwhile, didn't show up to the set at all initially. His daughter Cheyenne had just killed herself, sending him into a deep depression that prevented him from even leaving his private island, let alone flying out to Australia. Not only did this force Stanley to shoot Kilmer's scenes first, but not having Brando to vouch for him left him more vulnerable to pressure from New Line. When he finally did get to the set, Brando proved to be almost as bad as Kilmer. He stopped trying to memorize lines and would hear from a radio receiver instead; according to Thewlis, the receiver also picked up ''other'' transmissions like police scanners, meaning Brando would randomly announce things like "there's been a robbery at Woolworth's" in the middle of a scene. Brando also had the script revised to give more screen time to Nelson de la Rosa, the "world's smallest man" who he'd befriended during filming, he and Kilmer got along spectacularly poorly, and in one famous instance, he wore a bucket on his head and refused to take it off; this wound up in the finished film.\n** Stanley was eventually fired on the third day of shooting, and he did not take it well, destroying his notes, storyboards, and production art and then disappearing to a remote farm in the jungle, where he lived for two months. Co-star Creator/FairuzaBalk, upon learning of Stanley's firing, walked off the set in outrage and tried to escape the shoot with the help of one of the crew, only relenting upon being informed that, if she dropped out, her career would likely be ruined. Stanley would later be discovered by a number of crew members still loyal to him, and he was smuggled back to the set in disguise as an extra wearing a rubber dog mask (security had been tightened in case he tried to sabotage the film). Nobody was the wiser.\n** Creator/JohnFrankenheimer took over after Stanley's firing, using New Line's desperation as leverage to secure a massive paycheck and a three-picture deal. He faced Kilmer and Brando on the same coin: [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,292752_3,00.html apparently]], he once replied to Kilmer with "I don't give a fuck. Get off my set!" And on another occasion, "Even if I was making a movie titled 'The Life of Val Kilmer', I wouldn't want that prick in it." (He had nothing but bad things to say about his experience directing Kilmer, and vowed to never work with him again.) Stanley's script was also discarded, and the new one was being rewritten on a daily basis. Frankenheimer's arrival was by all accounts a case of TyrantTakesTheHelm -- he was a very "old-fashioned" director whose dictatorial control of the production led to constant clashes with the cast, the crew, and the studio.\n** The constant delays meant that the extras playing Moreau's "children" were frequently bored and had nothing to do... so they descended into sex, drugs, and all-around debauchery. Desperate for extras to replace them, Frankenheimer eventually hired some random hippies.\n** The film finally entered theaters after a harrowing six-month shoot, whereupon it was met with a scathing reception and bombed at the box office.\n** Majai, Moreau's MiniMook, was Nelson de la Rosa. The production hired him because of his 2'4" height to play a fetal creature. What the producers didn't know was that de la Rosa was famous in South America. Brando met him on the set, and immediately took a liking to him, replacing Daniel Rigney's TheDragon role with de la Rosa, expanding his original role as background. \n* WagTheDirector: Both Creator/MarlonBrando and Creator/ValKilmer did this. And it was worse before Creator/JohnFrankenheimer joined the production!\n** Brando at one point conceived of an entire alternate backstory and ending for Moreau -- he would never be seen without a hat of some kind, until it would be knocked off during the climax and reveal he himself was a human-dolphin hybrid with a blowhole. Fortunately (or unfortunately), Stanley said no.\n* WhatCouldHaveBeen: \n** [[http://www.everythingisundercontrol.org/nagtloper/write/moreauscript.php/ Richard Stanley's original version]].\n** Stanley's original cast consisted of Creator/BruceWillis as Edward and Creator/JamesWoods as Montgomery. \n** Stanley originally envisioned Creator/JurgenProchnow as Doctor Moreau.\n** Creator/JamesSpader was considered for Edward Douglas.\n** Creator/GaryOldman turned down the role of either Edward or Montgomery, as he was in rehab at the time.\n----
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** While Wells concept here clearly ranked things UpToEleven, in his day some of this was probably expected to what the body modification perspective looked like. In later decades some became more accepted in more respected institutions, but this is again the reason someone like Moreau is working out of some hole in the wall island and not at a university.
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** While Wells Wells' concept here clearly ranked things UpToEleven, in his day some of this was probably expected to what the body modification perspective looked like. In later decades some became more accepted in more respected institutions, but this is again the reason someone like Moreau is working out of some hole in the wall island and not at a university.
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* ActorInspiredElement: It was Creator/MarlonBrando's idea for Doctor Moreau's chair to have peacock feathers on it. The art director managed to get them from a peacock at a nearby farm. He also suggested that Doctor Moreau to resemble The Pope, as he felt that he was blaspheming against nature.
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* ActorInspiredElement: It was Creator/MarlonBrando's idea for Doctor Moreau's chair to have peacock feathers on it. The art director managed to get them from a peacock at a nearby farm. He also suggested that Doctor Moreau to resemble The Pope, as he felt that he was blaspheming against nature.
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* CastTheRunnerUp: Creator/ValKilmer was originally cast in the lead role. When he found out he was getting a divorce, he tried to get his part reduced by 40%. That was impossible, so he took the role of Montgomery.
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** Creator/JohnFrankenheimer took over after Stanley's firing, using New Line's desperation as leverage to secure a massive paycheck and a three-picture deal. He faced Kilmer and Brando on the same coin: [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,292752_3,00.html apparently]], he once replied to Kilmer with "I don't give a fuck. Get off my set!" (He had nothing but bad things to say about his experience directing Kilmer, and vowed to never work with him again.) Stanley's script was also discarded, and the new one was being rewritten on a daily basis. Frankenheimer's arrival was by all accounts a case of TyrantTakesTheHelm -- he was a very "old-fashioned" director whose dictatorial control of the production led to constant clashes with the cast, the crew, and the studio.
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** Creator/JohnFrankenheimer took over after Stanley's firing, using New Line's desperation as leverage to secure a massive paycheck and a three-picture deal. He faced Kilmer and Brando on the same coin: [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,292752_3,00.html apparently]], he once replied to Kilmer with "I don't give a fuck. Get off my set!" And on another occasion, "Even if I was making a movie titled 'The Life of Val Kilmer', I wouldn't want that prick in it." (He had nothing but bad things to say about his experience directing Kilmer, and vowed to never work with him again.) Stanley's script was also discarded, and the new one was being rewritten on a daily basis. Frankenheimer's arrival was by all accounts a case of TyrantTakesTheHelm -- he was a very "old-fashioned" director whose dictatorial control of the production led to constant clashes with the cast, the crew, and the studio.
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* CreatorBreakdown: Creator/ValKilmer was going through a divorce, while Creator/MarlonBrando was dealing with the suicide of his daughter and accusations of nuclear testing at an atoll he owned. The original director had a nervous breakdown after being fired. And that's just the start of it.
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* DeletedScene: The original ending of the 1977 version revealed Maria was actually one of the beastfolk, more specifically a feline, as when she and Andrew are being rescued at sea she was shown to have fangs and panther-like eyes. Stills of this ending still exist and the scenes hinting at her nature still persist in the final cut, but for so reason the ending shot of her reveal was cut.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $40 million. Box office, $27,663,982 (domestic), $49,627,779 (worldwide).
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* HostilityOnTheSet: Creator/ValKilmer and Creator/JohnFrankenheimer clashed throughout the shoot. Even Creator/MarlonBrando got fed up with Kilmer, telling him, "You're confusing your talent with the size of your paycheck". There was one reported incident where the actors playing Moreau's creations, having spent hours in makeup, were kept waiting because Brando and Kilmer refused to come out of their trailers until the other did.
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* HostilityOnTheSet: Creator/ValKilmer and Creator/MarlonBrando made things difficult to the point the original director got fired, and Creator/JohnFrankenheimer clashed throughout was hired partially because he had a history of controlling inflated egos. Frankenheimer was reported to have shouted "Cut! Now get that bastard off my set!" once Kilmer had no more scenes left, and stated after release that "There are two things I will never do in my life. I will never climb Mount Everest, and I will never work with Val Kilmer again. There isn't enough money in the shoot. world." Even Creator/MarlonBrando Brando got fed up with Kilmer, telling him, "You're confusing your talent with the size of your paycheck". There was one reported incident where the actors playing Moreau's creations, having spent hours in makeup, were kept waiting because Brando and Kilmer refused to come out of their trailers until the other did.
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** Creator/BruceWillis was originally cast as Edward Douglas, but had to drop out due to the proceedings for his divorce from Creator/DemiMoore preventing him from leaving the country. Willis was replaced by Creator/ValKilmer -- who immediately started behaving like a prima donna, demanding a 40% cut in the days he was required on set and the construction of a treehouse to "get into character", having Marco Hofschneider’s role heavily cut down to avoid being outshined, and frequently butting heads with Stanley to the point that all of his footage from the first few days of filming was deemed unusable. As such, he was recast in the smaller part of Dr. Montgomery so as to limit the amount of damage he could do; the part of Douglas was recast with Rob Morrow, but he only lasted two days before the sheer hostility on set led him to drop out, causing him to be replaced in turn with David Thewlis. (Kilmer attributes his obnoxious behavior to learning, upon the start of filming, that his own wife was suing him for divorce.)
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** Creator/BruceWillis was originally cast as Edward Douglas, but had to drop out due to the proceedings for his divorce from Creator/DemiMoore preventing him from leaving the country.USA. Willis was replaced by Creator/ValKilmer -- who immediately started behaving like a prima donna, demanding a 40% cut in the days he was required on set and the construction of a treehouse to "get into character", having Marco Hofschneider’s role heavily cut down to avoid being outshined, and frequently butting heads with Stanley to the point that all of his footage from the first few days of filming was deemed unusable. As such, he was recast in the smaller part of Dr. Montgomery so as to limit the amount of damage he could do; the part of Douglas was recast with Rob Morrow, but he only lasted two days before the sheer hostility on set led him to drop out, causing him to be replaced in turn with David Thewlis. (Kilmer attributes his obnoxious behavior to learning, upon the start of filming, that his own wife was suing him for divorce.)
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* ActorInspiredElement: It was Creator/MarlonBrando's idea for Doctor Moreau's chair to have peacock feathers on it. The art director managed to get them from a peacock at a nearby farm. He also suggested that Doctor Moreau to resemble The Pope, as he felt that he was blaspheming against nature.
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* ExecutiveMeddling / TroubledProduction: Hoo boy, did this one go through hell getting to the screen (director changes, prima donna actors making things difficult, typhoons hitting the set), and the final result shows how bad it was. It was the subject of a 2014 documentary, ''Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley’s Island of Dr. Moreau'', which only scratched the surface as to [[http://www.pajiba.com/seriously_random_lists/the-real-story-behind-the-island-of-dr-moreau-is-way-more-bonkers-than-the-movie-itself-.php how insane things got.]] This will probably go down in history as a rare example of a film adaptation that turned out to be less interesting than both the book that inspired it and the production that went into it!
* OldShame: David Thewlis had such a horrible time doing this he skipped the premiere and vowed to never watch the movie. Fairuza Balk had grown close to Richard Stanley during the pre-production. When Stanley was fired, Balk attempted to leave the production; she only continued out of contractual obligation and is not proud of the film.
* OldShame: David Thewlis had such a horrible time doing this he skipped the premiere and vowed to never watch the movie. Fairuza Balk had grown close to Richard Stanley during the pre-production. When Stanley was fired, Balk attempted to leave the production; she only continued out of contractual obligation and is not proud of the film.
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* ExecutiveMeddling / TroubledProduction: Hoo boy, did this HostilityOnTheSet: Creator/ValKilmer and Creator/JohnFrankenheimer clashed throughout the shoot. Even Creator/MarlonBrando got fed up with Kilmer, telling him, "You're confusing your talent with the size of your paycheck". There was one go through hell getting to reported incident where the screen (director changes, prima donna actors making things difficult, typhoons hitting playing Moreau's creations, having spent hours in makeup, were kept waiting because Brando and Kilmer refused to come out of their trailers until the set), and other did.
* MethodActing: Creator/RonPerlman's character is blind. Perlman had lenses put over his eyes so he actually played thefinal result shows how bad it was. It was the subject of a 2014 documentary, ''Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley’s Island of Dr. Moreau'', which only scratched the surface as to [[http://www.pajiba.com/seriously_random_lists/the-real-story-behind-the-island-of-dr-moreau-is-way-more-bonkers-than-the-movie-itself-.php how insane things got.]] This will probably go down in history as a rare example of a film adaptation that turned out to be less interesting than both the book that inspired it and the production that went into it!
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* OldShame:David Thewlis Creator/DavidThewlis had such a horrible time doing this he skipped the premiere and vowed to never watch the movie. Fairuza Balk had grown close to Richard Stanley during the pre-production. When Stanley was fired, Balk attempted to leave the production; she only continued out of contractual obligation and is not proud of the film.
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* TroubledProduction: Hoo boy, did this one go through hell getting to the screen, and the final result shows how bad it was. It was the subject of a 2014 documentary, ''Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley’s Island of Dr. Moreau'', which only scratched the surface as to [[http://www.pajiba.com/seriously_random_lists/the-real-story-behind-the-island-of-dr-moreau-is-way-more-bonkers-than-the-movie-itself-.php how insane things got.]]
** To start with, director Richard Stanley feared that he might be kicked off the production and replaced with Creator/RomanPolanski before a single frame was even shot, as Creator/NewLineCinema had little faith in his ability to helm a big-budget blockbuster, so he enlisted a British warlock to carry out a blood magic ritual to ensure his job security and get star Creator/MarlonBrando (who played Dr. Moreau and enthusiastically endorsed Stanley's vision for the film) to vouch for him at meetings. One could say that [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor it worked]], as he kept his job, but things started going wrong almost from the moment production started up near Cairns, Queensland. The boat bringing the exotic animals to the set got caught in a hurricane, and Stanley stayed on the ship to ensure the animals' safety -- which meant that he got peed on by a restless puma.
** Creator/BruceWillis was originally cast as Edward Douglas, but had to drop out due to the proceedings for his divorce from Creator/DemiMoore preventing him from leaving the country. Willis was replaced by Creator/ValKilmer -- who immediately started behaving like a prima donna, demanding a 40% cut in the days he was required on set and the construction of a treehouse to "get into character", having Marco Hofschneider’s role heavily cut down to avoid being outshined, and frequently butting heads with Stanley to the point that all of his footage from the first few days of filming was deemed unusable. As such, he was recast in the smaller part of Dr. Montgomery so as to limit the amount of damage he could do; the part of Douglas was recast with Rob Morrow, but he only lasted two days before the sheer hostility on set led him to drop out, causing him to be replaced in turn with David Thewlis. (Kilmer attributes his obnoxious behavior to learning, upon the start of filming, that his own wife was suing him for divorce.)
** Speaking of Thewlis, he joined the production due to [[http://davidthewlis.net/index/press/1997-2/total-film-1997/ the prospect of travelling to Australia, working with Marlon Brando, and getting a hefty salary for it.]] He had such a terrible time making the film that he skipped the premiere and has vowed to never watch it.
** Brando, meanwhile, didn't show up to the set at all initially. His daughter Cheyenne had just killed herself, sending him into a deep depression that prevented him from even leaving his private island, let alone flying out to Australia. Not only did this force Stanley to shoot Kilmer's scenes first, but not having Brando to vouch for him left him more vulnerable to pressure from New Line. When he finally did get to the set, Brando proved to be almost as bad as Kilmer. He stopped trying to memorize lines and would hear from a radio receiver instead; according to Thewlis, the receiver also picked up ''other'' transmissions like police scanners, meaning Brando would randomly announce things like "there's been a robbery at Woolworth's" in the middle of a scene. Brando also had the script revised to give more screen time to Nelson de la Rosa, the "world's smallest man" who he'd befriended during filming, he and Kilmer got along spectacularly poorly, and in one famous instance, he wore a bucket on his head and refused to take it off; this wound up in the finished film.
** Stanley was eventually fired on the third day of shooting, and he did not take it well, destroying his notes, storyboards, and production art and then disappearing to a remote farm in the jungle, where he lived for two months. Co-star Creator/FairuzaBalk, upon learning of Stanley's firing, walked off the set in outrage and tried to escape the shoot with the help of one of the crew, only relenting upon being informed that, if she dropped out, her career would likely be ruined. Stanley would later be discovered by a number of crew members still loyal to him, and he was smuggled back to the set in disguise as an extra wearing a rubber dog mask (security had been tightened in case he tried to sabotage the film). Nobody was the wiser.
** Creator/JohnFrankenheimer took over after Stanley's firing, using New Line's desperation as leverage to secure a massive paycheck and a three-picture deal. He faced Kilmer and Brando on the same coin: [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,292752_3,00.html apparently]], he once replied to Kilmer with "I don't give a fuck. Get off my set!" (He had nothing but bad things to say about his experience directing Kilmer, and vowed to never work with him again.) Stanley's script was also discarded, and the new one was being rewritten on a daily basis. Frankenheimer's arrival was by all accounts a case of TyrantTakesTheHelm -- he was a very "old-fashioned" director whose dictatorial control of the production led to constant clashes with the cast, the crew, and the studio.
** The constant delays meant that the extras playing Moreau's "children" were frequently bored and had nothing to do... so they descended into sex, drugs, and all-around debauchery. Desperate for extras to replace them, Frankenheimer eventually hired some random hippies.
** The film finally entered theaters after a harrowing six-month shoot, whereupon it was met with a scathing reception and bombed at the box office.
** To start with, director Richard Stanley feared that he might be kicked off the production and replaced with Creator/RomanPolanski before a single frame was even shot, as Creator/NewLineCinema had little faith in his ability to helm a big-budget blockbuster, so he enlisted a British warlock to carry out a blood magic ritual to ensure his job security and get star Creator/MarlonBrando (who played Dr. Moreau and enthusiastically endorsed Stanley's vision for the film) to vouch for him at meetings. One could say that [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor it worked]], as he kept his job, but things started going wrong almost from the moment production started up near Cairns, Queensland. The boat bringing the exotic animals to the set got caught in a hurricane, and Stanley stayed on the ship to ensure the animals' safety -- which meant that he got peed on by a restless puma.
** Creator/BruceWillis was originally cast as Edward Douglas, but had to drop out due to the proceedings for his divorce from Creator/DemiMoore preventing him from leaving the country. Willis was replaced by Creator/ValKilmer -- who immediately started behaving like a prima donna, demanding a 40% cut in the days he was required on set and the construction of a treehouse to "get into character", having Marco Hofschneider’s role heavily cut down to avoid being outshined, and frequently butting heads with Stanley to the point that all of his footage from the first few days of filming was deemed unusable. As such, he was recast in the smaller part of Dr. Montgomery so as to limit the amount of damage he could do; the part of Douglas was recast with Rob Morrow, but he only lasted two days before the sheer hostility on set led him to drop out, causing him to be replaced in turn with David Thewlis. (Kilmer attributes his obnoxious behavior to learning, upon the start of filming, that his own wife was suing him for divorce.)
** Speaking of Thewlis, he joined the production due to [[http://davidthewlis.net/index/press/1997-2/total-film-1997/ the prospect of travelling to Australia, working with Marlon Brando, and getting a hefty salary for it.]] He had such a terrible time making the film that he skipped the premiere and has vowed to never watch it.
** Brando, meanwhile, didn't show up to the set at all initially. His daughter Cheyenne had just killed herself, sending him into a deep depression that prevented him from even leaving his private island, let alone flying out to Australia. Not only did this force Stanley to shoot Kilmer's scenes first, but not having Brando to vouch for him left him more vulnerable to pressure from New Line. When he finally did get to the set, Brando proved to be almost as bad as Kilmer. He stopped trying to memorize lines and would hear from a radio receiver instead; according to Thewlis, the receiver also picked up ''other'' transmissions like police scanners, meaning Brando would randomly announce things like "there's been a robbery at Woolworth's" in the middle of a scene. Brando also had the script revised to give more screen time to Nelson de la Rosa, the "world's smallest man" who he'd befriended during filming, he and Kilmer got along spectacularly poorly, and in one famous instance, he wore a bucket on his head and refused to take it off; this wound up in the finished film.
** Stanley was eventually fired on the third day of shooting, and he did not take it well, destroying his notes, storyboards, and production art and then disappearing to a remote farm in the jungle, where he lived for two months. Co-star Creator/FairuzaBalk, upon learning of Stanley's firing, walked off the set in outrage and tried to escape the shoot with the help of one of the crew, only relenting upon being informed that, if she dropped out, her career would likely be ruined. Stanley would later be discovered by a number of crew members still loyal to him, and he was smuggled back to the set in disguise as an extra wearing a rubber dog mask (security had been tightened in case he tried to sabotage the film). Nobody was the wiser.
** Creator/JohnFrankenheimer took over after Stanley's firing, using New Line's desperation as leverage to secure a massive paycheck and a three-picture deal. He faced Kilmer and Brando on the same coin: [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,292752_3,00.html apparently]], he once replied to Kilmer with "I don't give a fuck. Get off my set!" (He had nothing but bad things to say about his experience directing Kilmer, and vowed to never work with him again.) Stanley's script was also discarded, and the new one was being rewritten on a daily basis. Frankenheimer's arrival was by all accounts a case of TyrantTakesTheHelm -- he was a very "old-fashioned" director whose dictatorial control of the production led to constant clashes with the cast, the crew, and the studio.
** The constant delays meant that the extras playing Moreau's "children" were frequently bored and had nothing to do... so they descended into sex, drugs, and all-around debauchery. Desperate for extras to replace them, Frankenheimer eventually hired some random hippies.
** The film finally entered theaters after a harrowing six-month shoot, whereupon it was met with a scathing reception and bombed at the box office.
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** Brando at one point conceived of an entire alternate backstory and ending for Moreau -- he would never be seen without a hat of some kind, until it would be knocked off during the climax and reveal he himself was a human-dolphin hybrid with a blowhole. Fortunately (or unfortunately), Stanley said no.
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* OldShame: David Thewlis had such a horrible time doing this he skipped the premiere and vowed to never watch the movie. Fairuza Balk had grown close to Richard Stanley during the pre-production. She attempted to leave the production; she only continued out of contractual obligation and is not proud of the film.
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* OldShame: David Thewlis had such a horrible time doing this he skipped the premiere and vowed to never watch the movie. Fairuza Balk had grown close to Richard Stanley during the pre-production. She When Stanley was fired, Balk attempted to leave the production; she only continued out of contractual obligation and is not proud of the film.
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* OldShame: David Thewlis had such a horrible time doing this he skipped the premiere and vowed to never watch the movie. Fairuza Balk had grown close to Richard Stanley during the pre-production. She attempted to leave the production; she only continued out of contractual obligation and is not proud of the film.
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* AwesomeDearBoy: Creator/RonPerlman, Creator/ValKilmer and Creator/DavidThewlis signed due to the prospect of working with Creator/MarlonBrando (Thewlis also had the motivations of a trip to Hawaii and a nice paycheck).
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* ExecutiveMeddling / TroubledProduction: Hoo boy, did this one go through hell getting to the screen, and the final result shows how bad it was. It was the subject of a 2014 documentary, ''Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley’s Island of Dr. Moreau'', which only scratched the surface as to [[http://www.pajiba.com/seriously_random_lists/the-real-story-behind-the-island-of-dr-moreau-is-way-more-bonkers-than-the-movie-itself-.php how insane things got.]]
** To start with, director Richard Stanley feared that he might be kicked off the production and replaced with Creator/RomanPolanski before a single frame was even shot, as Creator/NewLineCinema had little faith in his ability to helm a big-budget blockbuster, so he enlisted a British warlock to carry out a blood magic ritual to ensure his job security and get star Creator/MarlonBrando (who played Dr. Moreau and enthusiastically endorsed Stanley's vision for the film) to vouch for him at meetings. One could say that [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor it worked]], as he kept his job, but things started going wrong almost from the moment production started up near Cairns, Queensland. The boat bringing the exotic animals to the set got caught in a hurricane, and Stanley stayed on the ship to ensure the animals' safety -- which meant that he got peed on by a restless puma.
** Creator/BruceWillis was originally cast as Edward Douglas, but had to drop out due to the proceedings for his divorce from Creator/DemiMoore preventing him from leaving the country. Willis was replaced by Creator/ValKilmer -- who immediately started behaving like a prima donna, demanding a 40% cut in the days he was required on set and the construction of a treehouse to "get into character", having Marco Hofschneider’s role heavily cut down to avoid being outshined, and frequently butting heads with Stanley to the point that all of his footage from the first few days of filming was deemed unusable. As such, he was recast in the smaller part of Dr. Montgomery so as to limit the amount of damage he could do; the part of Douglas was recast with Rob Morrow, but he only lasted two days before the sheer hostility on set led him to drop out, causing him to be replaced in turn with David Thewlis. (Kilmer attributes his obnoxious behavior to learning, upon the start of filming, that his own wife was suing him for divorce.)
** Speaking of Thewlis, he joined the production due to [[http://davidthewlis.net/index/press/1997-2/total-film-1997/ the prospect of travelling to Australia, working with Marlon Brando, and getting a hefty salary for it.]] He had such a terrible time making the film that he skipped the premiere and has vowed to never watch it.
** Brando, meanwhile, didn't show up to the set at all initially. His daughter Cheyenne had just killed herself, sending him into a deep depression that prevented him from even leaving his private island, let alone flying out to Australia. Not only did this force Stanley to shoot Kilmer's scenes first, but not having Brando to vouch for him left him more vulnerable to pressure from New Line. When he finally did get to the set, Brando proved to be almost as bad as Kilmer. He stopped trying to memorize lines and would hear from a radio receiver instead; according to Thewlis, the receiver also picked up ''other'' transmissions like police scanners, meaning Brando would randomly announce things like "there's been a robbery at Woolworth's" in the middle of a scene. Brando also had the script revised to give more screen time to Nelson de la Rosa, the "world's smallest man" who he'd befriended during filming, he and Kilmer got along spectacularly poorly, and in one famous instance, he wore a bucket on his head and refused to take it off; this wound up in the finished film.
** Stanley was eventually fired on the third day of shooting, and he did not take it well, destroying his notes, storyboards, and production art and then disappearing to a remote farm in the jungle, where he lived for two months. Co-star Creator/FairuzaBalk, upon learning of Stanley's firing, walked off the set in outrage and tried to escape the shoot with the help of one of the crew, only relenting upon being informed that, if she dropped out, her career would likely be ruined. Stanley would later be discovered by a number of crew members still loyal to him, and he was smuggled back to the set in disguise as an extra wearing a rubber dog mask (security had been tightened in case he tried to sabotage the film). Nobody was the wiser.
** Creator/JohnFrankenheimer took over after Stanley's firing, using New Line's desperation as leverage to secure a massive paycheck and a three-picture deal. He faced Kilmer and Brando on the same coin: [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,292752_3,00.html apparently]], he once replied to Kilmer with "I don't give a fuck. Get off my set!" (He had nothing but bad things to say about his experience directing Kilmer, and vowed to never work with him again.) Stanley's script was also discarded, and the new one was being rewritten on a daily basis. Frankenheimer's arrival was by all accounts a case of TyrantTakesTheHelm -- he was a very "old-fashioned" director whose dictatorial control of the production led to constant clashes with the cast, the crew, and the studio.
** The constant delays meant that the extras playing Moreau's "children" were frequently bored and had nothing to do... so they descended into sex, drugs, and all-around debauchery. Desperate for extras to replace them, Frankenheimer eventually hired some random hippies.
** The film finally entered theaters after a harrowing six-month shoot, whereupon it was met with a scathing reception and bombed at the box office. This will probably go down in history as a rare example of a film adaptation that turned out to be less interesting than both the book that inspired it and the production that went into it!
** To start with, director Richard Stanley feared that he might be kicked off the production and replaced with Creator/RomanPolanski before a single frame was even shot, as Creator/NewLineCinema had little faith in his ability to helm a big-budget blockbuster, so he enlisted a British warlock to carry out a blood magic ritual to ensure his job security and get star Creator/MarlonBrando (who played Dr. Moreau and enthusiastically endorsed Stanley's vision for the film) to vouch for him at meetings. One could say that [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor it worked]], as he kept his job, but things started going wrong almost from the moment production started up near Cairns, Queensland. The boat bringing the exotic animals to the set got caught in a hurricane, and Stanley stayed on the ship to ensure the animals' safety -- which meant that he got peed on by a restless puma.
** Creator/BruceWillis was originally cast as Edward Douglas, but had to drop out due to the proceedings for his divorce from Creator/DemiMoore preventing him from leaving the country. Willis was replaced by Creator/ValKilmer -- who immediately started behaving like a prima donna, demanding a 40% cut in the days he was required on set and the construction of a treehouse to "get into character", having Marco Hofschneider’s role heavily cut down to avoid being outshined, and frequently butting heads with Stanley to the point that all of his footage from the first few days of filming was deemed unusable. As such, he was recast in the smaller part of Dr. Montgomery so as to limit the amount of damage he could do; the part of Douglas was recast with Rob Morrow, but he only lasted two days before the sheer hostility on set led him to drop out, causing him to be replaced in turn with David Thewlis. (Kilmer attributes his obnoxious behavior to learning, upon the start of filming, that his own wife was suing him for divorce.)
** Speaking of Thewlis, he joined the production due to [[http://davidthewlis.net/index/press/1997-2/total-film-1997/ the prospect of travelling to Australia, working with Marlon Brando, and getting a hefty salary for it.]] He had such a terrible time making the film that he skipped the premiere and has vowed to never watch it.
** Brando, meanwhile, didn't show up to the set at all initially. His daughter Cheyenne had just killed herself, sending him into a deep depression that prevented him from even leaving his private island, let alone flying out to Australia. Not only did this force Stanley to shoot Kilmer's scenes first, but not having Brando to vouch for him left him more vulnerable to pressure from New Line. When he finally did get to the set, Brando proved to be almost as bad as Kilmer. He stopped trying to memorize lines and would hear from a radio receiver instead; according to Thewlis, the receiver also picked up ''other'' transmissions like police scanners, meaning Brando would randomly announce things like "there's been a robbery at Woolworth's" in the middle of a scene. Brando also had the script revised to give more screen time to Nelson de la Rosa, the "world's smallest man" who he'd befriended during filming, he and Kilmer got along spectacularly poorly, and in one famous instance, he wore a bucket on his head and refused to take it off; this wound up in the finished film.
** Stanley was eventually fired on the third day of shooting, and he did not take it well, destroying his notes, storyboards, and production art and then disappearing to a remote farm in the jungle, where he lived for two months. Co-star Creator/FairuzaBalk, upon learning of Stanley's firing, walked off the set in outrage and tried to escape the shoot with the help of one of the crew, only relenting upon being informed that, if she dropped out, her career would likely be ruined. Stanley would later be discovered by a number of crew members still loyal to him, and he was smuggled back to the set in disguise as an extra wearing a rubber dog mask (security had been tightened in case he tried to sabotage the film). Nobody was the wiser.
** Creator/JohnFrankenheimer took over after Stanley's firing, using New Line's desperation as leverage to secure a massive paycheck and a three-picture deal. He faced Kilmer and Brando on the same coin: [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,292752_3,00.html apparently]], he once replied to Kilmer with "I don't give a fuck. Get off my set!" (He had nothing but bad things to say about his experience directing Kilmer, and vowed to never work with him again.) Stanley's script was also discarded, and the new one was being rewritten on a daily basis. Frankenheimer's arrival was by all accounts a case of TyrantTakesTheHelm -- he was a very "old-fashioned" director whose dictatorial control of the production led to constant clashes with the cast, the crew, and the studio.
** The constant delays meant that the extras playing Moreau's "children" were frequently bored and had nothing to do... so they descended into sex, drugs, and all-around debauchery. Desperate for extras to replace them, Frankenheimer eventually hired some random hippies.
** The film finally entered theaters after a harrowing six-month shoot, whereupon it was met with a scathing reception and bombed at the box office. This will probably go down in history as a rare example of a film adaptation that turned out to be less interesting than both the book that inspired it and the production that went into it!
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* ExecutiveMeddling / TroubledProduction: Hoo boy, did this one go through hell getting to the screen, screen (director changes, prima donna actors making things difficult, typhoons hitting the set), and the final result shows how bad it was. It was the subject of a 2014 documentary, ''Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley’s Island of Dr. Moreau'', which only scratched the surface as to [[http://www.pajiba.com/seriously_random_lists/the-real-story-behind-the-island-of-dr-moreau-is-way-more-bonkers-than-the-movie-itself-.php how insane things got.]]
** To start with, director Richard Stanley feared that he might be kicked off the production and replaced with Creator/RomanPolanski before a single frame was even shot, as Creator/NewLineCinema had little faith in his ability to helm a big-budget blockbuster, so he enlisted a British warlock to carry out a blood magic ritual to ensure his job security and get star Creator/MarlonBrando (who played Dr. Moreau and enthusiastically endorsed Stanley's vision for the film) to vouch for him at meetings. One could say that [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor it worked]], as he kept his job, but things started going wrong almost from the moment production started up near Cairns, Queensland. The boat bringing the exotic animals to the set got caught in a hurricane, and Stanley stayed on the ship to ensure the animals' safety -- which meant that he got peed on by a restless puma.
** Creator/BruceWillis was originally cast as Edward Douglas, but had to drop out due to the proceedings for his divorce from Creator/DemiMoore preventing him from leaving the country. Willis was replaced by Creator/ValKilmer -- who immediately started behaving like a prima donna, demanding a 40% cut in the days he was required on set and the construction of a treehouse to "get into character", having Marco Hofschneider’s role heavily cut down to avoid being outshined, and frequently butting heads with Stanley to the point that all of his footage from the first few days of filming was deemed unusable. As such, he was recast in the smaller part of Dr. Montgomery so as to limit the amount of damage he could do; the part of Douglas was recast with Rob Morrow, but he only lasted two days before the sheer hostility on set led him to drop out, causing him to be replaced in turn with David Thewlis. (Kilmer attributes his obnoxious behavior to learning, upon the start of filming, that his own wife was suing him for divorce.)
** Speaking of Thewlis, he joined the production due to [[http://davidthewlis.net/index/press/1997-2/total-film-1997/ the prospect of travelling to Australia, working with Marlon Brando, and getting a hefty salary for it.]] He had such a terrible time making the film that he skipped the premiere and has vowed to never watch it.
** Brando, meanwhile, didn't show up to the set at all initially. His daughter Cheyenne had just killed herself, sending him into a deep depression that prevented him from even leaving his private island, let alone flying out to Australia. Not only did this force Stanley to shoot Kilmer's scenes first, but not having Brando to vouch for him left him more vulnerable to pressure from New Line. When he finally did get to the set, Brando proved to be almost as bad as Kilmer. He stopped trying to memorize lines and would hear from a radio receiver instead; according to Thewlis, the receiver also picked up ''other'' transmissions like police scanners, meaning Brando would randomly announce things like "there's been a robbery at Woolworth's" in the middle of a scene. Brando also had the script revised to give more screen time to Nelson de la Rosa, the "world's smallest man" who he'd befriended during filming, he and Kilmer got along spectacularly poorly, and in one famous instance, he wore a bucket on his head and refused to take it off; this wound up in the finished film.
** Stanley was eventually fired on the third day of shooting, and he did not take it well, destroying his notes, storyboards, and production art and then disappearing to a remote farm in the jungle, where he lived for two months. Co-star Creator/FairuzaBalk, upon learning of Stanley's firing, walked off the set in outrage and tried to escape the shoot with the help of one of the crew, only relenting upon being informed that, if she dropped out, her career would likely be ruined. Stanley would later be discovered by a number of crew members still loyal to him, and he was smuggled back to the set in disguise as an extra wearing a rubber dog mask (security had been tightened in case he tried to sabotage the film). Nobody was the wiser.
** Creator/JohnFrankenheimer took over after Stanley's firing, using New Line's desperation as leverage to secure a massive paycheck and a three-picture deal. He faced Kilmer and Brando on the same coin: [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,292752_3,00.html apparently]], he once replied to Kilmer with "I don't give a fuck. Get off my set!" (He had nothing but bad things to say about his experience directing Kilmer, and vowed to never work with him again.) Stanley's script was also discarded, and the new one was being rewritten on a daily basis. Frankenheimer's arrival was by all accounts a case of TyrantTakesTheHelm -- he was a very "old-fashioned" director whose dictatorial control of the production led to constant clashes with the cast, the crew, and the studio.
** The constant delays meant that the extras playing Moreau's "children" were frequently bored and had nothing to do... so they descended into sex, drugs, and all-around debauchery. Desperate for extras to replace them, Frankenheimer eventually hired some random hippies.
** The film finally entered theaters after a harrowing six-month shoot, whereupon it was met with a scathing reception and bombed at the box office.This will probably go down in history as a rare example of a film adaptation that turned out to be less interesting than both the book that inspired it and the production that went into it!
** To start with, director Richard Stanley feared that he might be kicked off the production and replaced with Creator/RomanPolanski before a single frame was even shot, as Creator/NewLineCinema had little faith in his ability to helm a big-budget blockbuster, so he enlisted a British warlock to carry out a blood magic ritual to ensure his job security and get star Creator/MarlonBrando (who played Dr. Moreau and enthusiastically endorsed Stanley's vision for the film) to vouch for him at meetings. One could say that [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor it worked]], as he kept his job, but things started going wrong almost from the moment production started up near Cairns, Queensland. The boat bringing the exotic animals to the set got caught in a hurricane, and Stanley stayed on the ship to ensure the animals' safety -- which meant that he got peed on by a restless puma.
** Creator/BruceWillis was originally cast as Edward Douglas, but had to drop out due to the proceedings for his divorce from Creator/DemiMoore preventing him from leaving the country. Willis was replaced by Creator/ValKilmer -- who immediately started behaving like a prima donna, demanding a 40% cut in the days he was required on set and the construction of a treehouse to "get into character", having Marco Hofschneider’s role heavily cut down to avoid being outshined, and frequently butting heads with Stanley to the point that all of his footage from the first few days of filming was deemed unusable. As such, he was recast in the smaller part of Dr. Montgomery so as to limit the amount of damage he could do; the part of Douglas was recast with Rob Morrow, but he only lasted two days before the sheer hostility on set led him to drop out, causing him to be replaced in turn with David Thewlis. (Kilmer attributes his obnoxious behavior to learning, upon the start of filming, that his own wife was suing him for divorce.)
** Speaking of Thewlis, he joined the production due to [[http://davidthewlis.net/index/press/1997-2/total-film-1997/ the prospect of travelling to Australia, working with Marlon Brando, and getting a hefty salary for it.
** Brando, meanwhile, didn't show up to the set at all initially. His daughter Cheyenne had just killed herself, sending him into a deep depression that prevented him from even leaving his private island, let alone flying out to Australia. Not only did this force Stanley to shoot Kilmer's scenes first, but not having Brando to vouch for him left him more vulnerable to pressure from New Line. When he finally did get to the set, Brando proved to be almost as bad as Kilmer. He stopped trying to memorize lines and would hear from a radio receiver instead; according to Thewlis, the receiver also picked up ''other'' transmissions like police scanners, meaning Brando would randomly announce things like "there's been a robbery at Woolworth's" in the middle of a scene. Brando also had the script revised to give more screen time to Nelson de la Rosa, the "world's smallest man" who he'd befriended during filming, he and Kilmer got along spectacularly poorly, and in one famous instance, he wore a bucket on his head and refused to take it off; this wound up in the finished film.
** Stanley was eventually fired on the third day of shooting, and he did not take it well, destroying his notes, storyboards, and production art and then disappearing to a remote farm in the jungle, where he lived for two months. Co-star Creator/FairuzaBalk, upon learning of Stanley's firing, walked off the set in outrage and tried to escape the shoot with the help of one of the crew, only relenting upon being informed that, if she dropped out, her career would likely be ruined. Stanley would later be discovered by a number of crew members still loyal to him, and he was smuggled back to the set in disguise as an extra wearing a rubber dog mask (security had been tightened in case he tried to sabotage the film). Nobody was the wiser.
** Creator/JohnFrankenheimer took over after Stanley's firing, using New Line's desperation as leverage to secure a massive paycheck and a three-picture deal. He faced Kilmer and Brando on the same coin: [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,292752_3,00.html apparently]], he once replied to Kilmer with "I don't give a fuck. Get off my set!" (He had nothing but bad things to say about his experience directing Kilmer, and vowed to never work with him again.) Stanley's script was also discarded, and the new one was being rewritten on a daily basis. Frankenheimer's arrival was by all accounts a case of TyrantTakesTheHelm -- he was a very "old-fashioned" director whose dictatorial control of the production led to constant clashes with the cast, the crew, and the studio.
** The constant delays meant that the extras playing Moreau's "children" were frequently bored and had nothing to do... so they descended into sex, drugs, and all-around debauchery. Desperate for extras to replace them, Frankenheimer eventually hired some random hippies.
** The film finally entered theaters after a harrowing six-month shoot, whereupon it was met with a scathing reception and bombed at the box office.
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* Creator/StanWinston: Did the make-up in the 1996 version.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Richard Stanley's original version http://www.everythingisundercontrol.org/nagtloper/write/moreauscript.php/.
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* WagTheDirector: Both Creator/MarlonBrando and Creator/ValKilmer did this.
this. And it was worse before Creator/JohnFrankenheimer joined the production!
* WhatCouldHaveBeen:Richard Stanley's original version http://www.[[http://www.everythingisundercontrol.org/nagtloper/write/moreauscript.php/.php/ Richard Stanley's original version]].
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* ThrowItIn: Since Creator/JohnFrankenheimer was a total AscendedFanboy of Creator/MarlonBrando, whatever Brando wanted, Brando got.
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* ThrowItIn: Since Creator/JohnFrankenheimer was a total AscendedFanboy PromotedFanboy of Creator/MarlonBrando, whatever Brando wanted, Brando got.
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** The film finally entered theaters after a harrowing six-month shoot, whereupon it was met with a scathing reception and bombed at the box office.
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** The film finally entered theaters after a harrowing six-month shoot, whereupon it was met with a scathing reception and bombed at the box office. This will probably go down in history as a rare example of a film adaptation that turned out to be less interesting than both the book that inspired it and the production that went into it!
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** [[Film/HarryPotter Remus Lupin]] plays Douglas.
*** Which is pretty HilariousInHindsight.
** [[Film/AttackOfTheClones Jango Fett]] plays Azazello.
** [[Film/HarryPotter Remus Lupin]] plays Douglas.
*** Which is pretty HilariousInHindsight.
** [[Film/AttackOfTheClones Jango Fett]] plays Azazello.
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* CreatorBreakdown: Creator/ValKilmer was going through a divorce, while Creator/MarlonBrando was dealing with the suicide of his daughter and accusations of nuclear testing at an atoll he owned.
* TheOtherMarty: Creator/RobMorrow was originally cast as Edward, but quit when Richard Stanley was fired. He was replaced by David Thewlis, who, ironically, was one of the actors Stanley wanted but couldn't get.
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* BillingDisplacement: Protagonist Edward Douglas (David Thewlis) is nowhere in the cover, unlike both Moreau himself (Marlon Brando) and Dr. Montgomery (Val Kilmer).
* ExecutiveMeddling / TroubledProduction: The 1996 version was rocked by this, kicking off when director and screenwriter Richard Stanley was canned after four days of shooting. The documentary ''Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley's Island of Dr. Moreau'' covered the madness.
** Stanley was replaced by the veteran Creator/JohnFrankenheimer. However, most of the cast and crew ''hated'' working with him, especially Fairuza Balk, whom he bullied during the entire production. He was hired to control Creator/ValKilmer and Creator/MarlonBrando's egos - and failed '''''miserably'''''; The two actors (who while already infamous for erratic behavior were both in a CreatorBreakdown) refused to work together, resulting in scenes where little made sense. Brando even had Daniel Rigney's role replaced by Nelson de la Rosa (who would go on to inspire [[Franchise/AustinPowers Mini-Me]].)
** The extras, however, loved the extended production, having almost nightly parties filled with booze and drugs.
** Richard Stanley went off into the woods and started becoming a [[GranolaGirl Granola Guy]] and started practicing witchcraft. Two crewmembers found him and had him sneak onto the set as one of the extras, and was ''filmed'' in a few scenes. Keep in mind, part of his severance pay was that he not come within 100 meters of the production!
* ExecutiveMeddling / TroubledProduction: The 1996 version was rocked by this, kicking off when director and screenwriter Richard Stanley was canned after four days of shooting. The documentary ''Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley's Island of Dr. Moreau'' covered the madness.
** Stanley was replaced by the veteran Creator/JohnFrankenheimer. However, most of the cast and crew ''hated'' working with him, especially Fairuza Balk, whom he bullied during the entire production. He was hired to control Creator/ValKilmer and Creator/MarlonBrando's egos - and failed '''''miserably'''''; The two actors (who while already infamous for erratic behavior were both in a CreatorBreakdown) refused to work together, resulting in scenes where little made sense. Brando even had Daniel Rigney's role replaced by Nelson de la Rosa (who would go on to inspire [[Franchise/AustinPowers Mini-Me]].)
** The extras, however, loved the extended production, having almost nightly parties filled with booze and drugs.
** Richard Stanley went off into the woods and started becoming a [[GranolaGirl Granola Guy]] and started practicing witchcraft. Two crewmembers found him and had him sneak onto the set as one of the extras, and was ''filmed'' in a few scenes. Keep in mind, part of his severance pay was that he not come within 100 meters of the production!
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* BillingDisplacement: Protagonist Edward Douglas (David Thewlis) is nowhere in the cover, unlike both Moreau himself (Marlon Brando) (Creator/MarlonBrando) and Dr. Montgomery (Val Kilmer).
(Creator/ValKilmer).
* ExecutiveMeddling / TroubledProduction:The 1996 version Hoo boy, did this one go through hell getting to the screen, and the final result shows how bad it was. It was rocked by this, kicking off when director and screenwriter Richard Stanley was canned after four days the subject of shooting. The documentary a 2014 documentary, ''Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley’s Island of Dr. Moreau'', which only scratched the surface as to [[http://www.pajiba.com/seriously_random_lists/the-real-story-behind-the-island-of-dr-moreau-is-way-more-bonkers-than-the-movie-itself-.php how insane things got.]]
** To start with, director Richard Stanley feared that he might be kicked off the production and replaced with Creator/RomanPolanski before a single frame was even shot, as Creator/NewLineCinema had little faith in his ability to helm a big-budget blockbuster, so he enlisted a British warlock to carry out a blood magic ritual to ensure his job security and get star Creator/MarlonBrando (who played Dr. Moreau and enthusiastically endorsed Stanley'sIsland of Dr. Moreau'' covered vision for the madness.
**film) to vouch for him at meetings. One could say that [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor it worked]], as he kept his job, but things started going wrong almost from the moment production started up near Cairns, Queensland. The boat bringing the exotic animals to the set got caught in a hurricane, and Stanley stayed on the ship to ensure the animals' safety -- which meant that he got peed on by a restless puma.
** Creator/BruceWillis was originally cast as Edward Douglas, but had to drop out due to the proceedings for his divorce from Creator/DemiMoore preventing him from leaving the country. Willis was replaced bythe veteran Creator/JohnFrankenheimer. However, most of the cast and crew ''hated'' working with him, especially Fairuza Balk, whom he bullied during the entire production. He was hired to control Creator/ValKilmer -- who immediately started behaving like a prima donna, demanding a 40% cut in the days he was required on set and Creator/MarlonBrando's egos - the construction of a treehouse to "get into character", having Marco Hofschneider’s role heavily cut down to avoid being outshined, and failed '''''miserably'''''; The frequently butting heads with Stanley to the point that all of his footage from the first few days of filming was deemed unusable. As such, he was recast in the smaller part of Dr. Montgomery so as to limit the amount of damage he could do; the part of Douglas was recast with Rob Morrow, but he only lasted two actors (who while already infamous for erratic days before the sheer hostility on set led him to drop out, causing him to be replaced in turn with David Thewlis. (Kilmer attributes his obnoxious behavior were both in a CreatorBreakdown) refused to work together, resulting in scenes where little made sense. Brando even had Daniel Rigney's role replaced by Nelson de la Rosa (who would go on to inspire [[Franchise/AustinPowers Mini-Me]].learning, upon the start of filming, that his own wife was suing him for divorce.)
**The extras, however, loved Speaking of Thewlis, he joined the extended production, having almost nightly parties filled production due to [[http://davidthewlis.net/index/press/1997-2/total-film-1997/ the prospect of travelling to Australia, working with booze Marlon Brando, and drugs.
getting a hefty salary for it.]] He had such a terrible time making the film that he skipped the premiere and has vowed to never watch it.
**Richard Brando, meanwhile, didn't show up to the set at all initially. His daughter Cheyenne had just killed herself, sending him into a deep depression that prevented him from even leaving his private island, let alone flying out to Australia. Not only did this force Stanley went to shoot Kilmer's scenes first, but not having Brando to vouch for him left him more vulnerable to pressure from New Line. When he finally did get to the set, Brando proved to be almost as bad as Kilmer. He stopped trying to memorize lines and would hear from a radio receiver instead; according to Thewlis, the receiver also picked up ''other'' transmissions like police scanners, meaning Brando would randomly announce things like "there's been a robbery at Woolworth's" in the middle of a scene. Brando also had the script revised to give more screen time to Nelson de la Rosa, the "world's smallest man" who he'd befriended during filming, he and Kilmer got along spectacularly poorly, and in one famous instance, he wore a bucket on his head and refused to take it off; this wound up in the finished film.
** Stanley was eventually fired on the third day of shooting, and he did not take it well, destroying his notes, storyboards, and production art and then disappearing to a remote farm in the jungle, where he lived for two months. Co-star Creator/FairuzaBalk, upon learning of Stanley's firing, walked offinto the woods and started becoming a [[GranolaGirl Granola Guy]] and started practicing witchcraft. Two crewmembers found him and had him sneak onto the set as in outrage and tried to escape the shoot with the help of one of the extras, crew, only relenting upon being informed that, if she dropped out, her career would likely be ruined. Stanley would later be discovered by a number of crew members still loyal to him, and he was ''filmed'' smuggled back to the set in disguise as an extra wearing a few scenes. Keep rubber dog mask (security had been tightened in mind, part of case he tried to sabotage the film). Nobody was the wiser.
** Creator/JohnFrankenheimer took over after Stanley's firing, using New Line's desperation as leverage to secure a massive paycheck and a three-picture deal. He faced Kilmer and Brando on the same coin: [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,292752_3,00.html apparently]], he once replied to Kilmer with "I don't give a fuck. Get off my set!" (He had nothing but bad things to say about hisseverance pay experience directing Kilmer, and vowed to never work with him again.) Stanley's script was that also discarded, and the new one was being rewritten on a daily basis. Frankenheimer's arrival was by all accounts a case of TyrantTakesTheHelm -- he not come within 100 meters was a very "old-fashioned" director whose dictatorial control of the production!production led to constant clashes with the cast, the crew, and the studio.
** The constant delays meant that the extras playing Moreau's "children" were frequently bored and had nothing to do... so they descended into sex, drugs, and all-around debauchery. Desperate for extras to replace them, Frankenheimer eventually hired some random hippies.
** The film finally entered theaters after a harrowing six-month shoot, whereupon it was met with a scathing reception and bombed at the box office.
* ExecutiveMeddling / TroubledProduction:
** To start with, director Richard Stanley feared that he might be kicked off the production and replaced with Creator/RomanPolanski before a single frame was even shot, as Creator/NewLineCinema had little faith in his ability to helm a big-budget blockbuster, so he enlisted a British warlock to carry out a blood magic ritual to ensure his job security and get star Creator/MarlonBrando (who played Dr. Moreau and enthusiastically endorsed Stanley's
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** Creator/BruceWillis was originally cast as Edward Douglas, but had to drop out due to the proceedings for his divorce from Creator/DemiMoore preventing him from leaving the country. Willis was replaced by
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** Stanley was eventually fired on the third day of shooting, and he did not take it well, destroying his notes, storyboards, and production art and then disappearing to a remote farm in the jungle, where he lived for two months. Co-star Creator/FairuzaBalk, upon learning of Stanley's firing, walked off
** Creator/JohnFrankenheimer took over after Stanley's firing, using New Line's desperation as leverage to secure a massive paycheck and a three-picture deal. He faced Kilmer and Brando on the same coin: [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,292752_3,00.html apparently]], he once replied to Kilmer with "I don't give a fuck. Get off my set!" (He had nothing but bad things to say about his
** The constant delays meant that the extras playing Moreau's "children" were frequently bored and had nothing to do... so they descended into sex, drugs, and all-around debauchery. Desperate for extras to replace them, Frankenheimer eventually hired some random hippies.
** The film finally entered theaters after a harrowing six-month shoot, whereupon it was met with a scathing reception and bombed at the box office.
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* ThrowItIn: Since Frankenheimer Creator/JohnFrankenheimer was a total AscendedFanboy of Brando, Creator/MarlonBrando, whatever Brando wanted, Brando got.
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* WagTheDirector: Both Creator/MarlonBrando and Creator/ValKilmer did this.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Richard Stanley's original version.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Richard Stanley's original version.
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!The Book
* ScienceMarchesOn: Wells states that the changes to the animals are the result of various surgical techniques. Later adaptations of the same story state that [[GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke genetic engineering]] is responsible for altering the animals.
* TechnologyMarchesOn: While most adaptions of the story uses genetic engineering for Moreau's creations, the original novel actually uses vivisection, since it predates the discovery of genetics and DNA. Hence the House of Pain location in the novel, as the surgeries Moreau performs on his unwilling experiments are both unnatural and incredibly painful for the subjects.
!The Movie
* ScienceMarchesOn: Wells states that the changes to the animals are the result of various surgical techniques. Later adaptations of the same story state that [[GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke genetic engineering]] is responsible for altering the animals.
* TechnologyMarchesOn: While most adaptions of the story uses genetic engineering for Moreau's creations, the original novel actually uses vivisection, since it predates the discovery of genetics and DNA. Hence the House of Pain location in the novel, as the surgeries Moreau performs on his unwilling experiments are both unnatural and incredibly painful for the subjects.
!The Movie
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* TechnologyMarchesOn: While most adaptions of the story uses genetic engineering for Moreau's creations, the original novel actually uses vivisection, since it predates the discovery of genetics and DNA. Hence the House of Pain location in the novel, as the surgeries Moreau performs on his unwilling experiments are both unnatural and incredibly painful for the subjects.
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* HeyItsThatGuy:
** Creator/RonPerlman is the Sayer of the Law.
** Kiril is played by [[Film/ANewHope Porkins]] (or, alternately, [[Film/FlashGordon Munson]], or [[Film/{{Batman}} Lt. Eckhardt]], or [[Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk Major Eaton]]).
** [[Film/ReturnToOz Dorothy Gale]] plays Aissa.
** Montgomery is [[Film/BatmanForever Batman]].
** Not to mention [[Film/TheGodfather Don Vito Corleone]]/[[Film/ApocalypseNow Col. Kurtz]]/[[Film/{{Superman}} Jor-El]] as Dr. Moreau himself.
** Creator/RonPerlman is the Sayer of the Law.
** Kiril is played by [[Film/ANewHope Porkins]] (or, alternately, [[Film/FlashGordon Munson]], or [[Film/{{Batman}} Lt. Eckhardt]], or [[Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk Major Eaton]]).
** [[Film/ReturnToOz Dorothy Gale]] plays Aissa.
** Montgomery is [[Film/BatmanForever Batman]].
** Not to mention [[Film/TheGodfather Don Vito Corleone]]/[[Film/ApocalypseNow Col. Kurtz]]/[[Film/{{Superman}} Jor-El]] as Dr. Moreau himself.
