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* SparedByTheCut: [[spoiler:Before it was split into this movie and ''Film/RoboCop3'', Creator/FrankMiller's original script saw the Rehabs kill Sgt. Reed to begin a plan to discredit Murphy. While that particular plot was dropped here, it was used for ''3'', only with Lewis, so Reed is able to survive both films. Likewise, the original script for ''2'' had Estevez (Wanda De Jesus's character and depicted as a white man in the comic) killed by the Rehabs.]]

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* SparedByTheCut: [[spoiler:Before it was split into this movie and ''Film/RoboCop3'', Creator/FrankMiller's original script saw the Rehabs kill Sgt. Reed to begin a plan to discredit Murphy. While that particular plot was dropped here, it was used for ''3'', only with Lewis, so Reed is able to survive both films. Likewise, the original script for ''2'' had Estevez (Wanda De Jesus's character and depicted as a white man in the comic) killed by the Rehabs.Rehabs, whereas she survived in the filmed version of ''2'' and didn't appear in ''3''.]]
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* RefittedForSequel: As anyone familiar with Creator/FrankMiller's original script (including its comic book form, ''ComicBook/FrankMillersRoboCop'') will attest, it originally had elements that'd eventually appear in ''Film/RoboCop3'', like the Rehabs, OCP going through with tearing down Detroit and forcing people out of their homes, [[spoiler:Murphy being framed by the Rehabs for the death of one of his fellow officers[[note]]Reed in the script/comic, Lewis in ''3''[[/note]]]], [[AnAsskickingChristmas the Christmas time setting]], and even [[DonutMessWithACop the scene where a villain barges into a donut shop only to be greeted by cops]][[note]]Though the context for that one was different; in ''3'', it was to introduce Lewis into the film; in the original script for ''2'', it was Lewis [[spoiler:needing back up as she was pursued by the Rebahs after they'd killed Reed and went to cops who were on strike to back her up]][[/note]].

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* RefittedForSequel: As anyone familiar with Creator/FrankMiller's original script (including its comic book form, ''ComicBook/FrankMillersRoboCop'') will attest, it originally had elements that'd eventually appear in ''Film/RoboCop3'', like the Rehabs, OCP going through with tearing down Detroit and forcing people out of their homes, [[spoiler:Murphy being framed by the Rehabs for the death of one of his fellow officers[[note]]Reed in the script/comic, Lewis in ''3''[[/note]]]], [[AnAsskickingChristmas the Christmas time setting]], and even [[DonutMessWithACop the scene where a villain barges into a donut shop only to be greeted by cops]][[note]]Though cops]][[labelnote:note (SPOILERS)]]Though the context for that one was different; in ''3'', it was to introduce Lewis into the film; in the original script for ''2'', it was Lewis [[spoiler:needing needing back up as she was pursued by the Rebahs after they'd killed Reed and went to cops who were on strike to back her up]][[/note]].up[[/labelnote]].
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* TheWikiRule: The [[http://robocop.wikia.com/wiki/RoboCop_Wiki RoboCop Wiki]].
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* ActorSharedBackground: Murphy is said to be Irish Catholic by Faxx. Creator/PeterWeller is indeed of Irish descent.
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* DescendedCreator: Craig Davies designed the stop-motion models for the failed Robocop 2 prototypes as well as RoboCain, and his rear-projected face adorned the "Stop or I'll shoot" prototype.

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* DescendedCreator: Craig Davies designed the stop-motion models for the failed Robocop 2 prototypes as well as RoboCain, [=RoboCain=], and his rear-projected face adorned the "Stop or I'll shoot" prototype.
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* DescendedCreator: Craig Davies designed the stop-motion models for the failed Robocop 2 prototypes, and his rear-projected face adorned the "Stop or I'll shoot" one.

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* DescendedCreator: Craig Davies designed the stop-motion models for the failed Robocop 2 prototypes, prototypes as well as RoboCain, and his rear-projected face adorned the "Stop or I'll shoot" one.prototype.
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* DescendedCreator: Craig Davies designed the stop-motion models for the failed Robocop 2 prototypes, and his rear-projected face adorned the "Stop or I'll shoot" one.
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* AluminumChristmasTrees: The "Magnavolt" may seem like an excessive means of deterring car thieves, but a South African company actually markets [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDrzMGdYWZc a car portable flame thrower to deter would-be carjackers.]]
** Hob's "lunch box" [=SMG=] is [[http://www.guns.com/2013/02/08/foldable-submachine-guns/ a real weapon.]]
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* AluminumChristmasTrees: The "Magnavolt" may seem like an excessive means of deterring car thieves, but a South African company actually markets [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDrzMGdYWZc a car portable flame thrower to deter would-be carjackers.]]
** Hob's "lunch box" [=SMG=] is [[http://www.guns.com/2013/02/08/foldable-submachine-guns/ a real weapon.]]
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** The role played by Patricia Charbonneau was originally written as a man.

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** The role played by Patricia Charbonneau Creator/PatriciaCharbonneau was originally written as a man.
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** [[https://youtu.be/4ZuYvaAgyJE Sunblock that turns skin blue]] became real in the late '90s.
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* BTeamSequel: Creator/PaulVerhoeven didn't return for the sequel, as he was busy with ''Film/TotalRecall1990'' and producer Jon Davison was working on ''Film/DickTracy''. The film also had new writers and Leonard Rosenman replaced Basil Poledouris as composer.

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* BTeamSequel: Creator/PaulVerhoeven didn't return for the sequel, as he was busy with ''Film/TotalRecall1990'' and producer Jon Davison was working on ''Film/DickTracy''. The film also had new writers and Leonard Rosenman replaced Basil Poledouris Music/BasilPoledouris as composer.
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** The ''ComicBook/FrankMillersRoboCop'' comic is an adaptation of Creator/FrankMiller's original script for ''[=RoboCop=] 2'', some unused ideas of which he [[RefittedForSequel recycled]] into ''Film/RoboCop3''. The DrugsAreBad and JapanTakesOverTheWorld aspects of the second and third movies weren't Miller's idea. The BigBad would have been pop psychologist Dr. Love, who ended up becoming Dr. Faxx; she was responsible for both the [=RoboCop=] 2 project and [=RoboCop=]'s PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad directives. The brain used for [=RoboCop=] 2 was to have been Kong, a psychotic ShellShockedVeteran, and [=RoboCop=] 2 had a video screen for a face because Dr. Love uploads her personality into him and her face replaces Kong's on the screen.

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** The ''ComicBook/FrankMillersRoboCop'' comic is an adaptation of Creator/FrankMiller's original script for ''[=RoboCop=] 2'', some unused ideas of which he [[RefittedForSequel recycled]] into ''Film/RoboCop3''. The DrugsAreBad and JapanTakesOverTheWorld aspects of the second and third movies weren't Miller's idea. The BigBad would have been pop psychologist Dr. Love, who ended up becoming Dr. Faxx; she was responsible for both the [=RoboCop=] 2 project and [=RoboCop=]'s PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad PoliticalOvercorrectness directives. The brain used for [=RoboCop=] 2 was to have been Kong, a psychotic ShellShockedVeteran, and [=RoboCop=] 2 had a video screen for a face because Dr. Love uploads her personality into him and her face replaces Kong's on the screen.
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** Edward Neumeier and Michael Miner, writers of the first film, presented a very rough outline called ''[=RoboCop=]: Corporate Wars''. In this draft, [=RoboCop=] was to be shot and pulverized to metallic dust by a cannon in the very beginning. He would be resurrected 25 years later in an even more dystopian future, where he becomes a pawn in the struggle between an all-powerful corporation, the government and an impoverished population and even at one point having a love interest with a Neruobrain to humanize Robocop even more. The studio liked this idea, but the writers did not want to continue working on script due to personal interests associated with the writers strike.

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** Edward Neumeier and Michael Miner, writers of the first film, presented a very rough outline called ''[=RoboCop=]: Corporate Wars''. In this draft, [=RoboCop=] was to be shot and pulverized to metallic dust by a cannon in the very beginning. He would be resurrected 25 years later in an even more dystopian future, where he becomes a pawn in the struggle between an all-powerful corporation, the government and an impoverished population and even at one point having a love interest with a Neruobrain to humanize Robocop even more. The studio liked this idea, but the writers did not want to continue working on script due to personal interests associated with the writers strike. This script would have made Bixby Snyder (the "I'll buy that for a dollar" guy) the President of the United States.
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** Creator/PeterWeller criticized the script, saying it lacked the spine and the soul of the original. Weller tried to convince Creator/FrankMiller, Irvin Kershner and the film's producers that the third act needed a morality angle instead of being just a shoot 'em up. The producers felt the battle between [=Robocop=] and Cain was sufficient. This, along with the [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy overly dark tone]] and how uncomfortable the Robocop suit was prompted him to not return for [[Film/RoboCop3 the third movie]]. However, he did enjoy the experience of making the film and liked working with Irvin Kershner.

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** Creator/PeterWeller criticized the script, saying it lacked the spine and the soul of the original. Weller tried to convince Creator/FrankMiller, Irvin Kershner and the film's producers that the third act needed a morality angle instead of being just a shoot 'em up. The producers felt the battle between [=Robocop=] and Cain was sufficient. This, along with the [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy [[TooBleakStoppedCaring overly dark tone]] and how uncomfortable the Robocop suit was prompted him to not return for [[Film/RoboCop3 the third movie]]. However, he did enjoy the experience of making the film and liked working with Irvin Kershner.
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* RefittedForSequel: As anyone familiar with Creator/FrankMiller's original script (including its comic book form, ''ComicBook/FrankMillersRoboCop'') will attest, it originally had elements that'd eventually appear in ''Film/RoboCop3'', like the Rehabs, OCP going through with tearing down Detroit and forcing people out of their homes, [[spoiler:Murphy being framed by the Rehabs for the death of one of his fellow officers[[note]]Reed in the script/comic, Lewis in ''3''[[/note]]]], [[AnAsskickingChristmas the Christmas time setting]], and even [[DonutMessWithACop the scene where a villain barges into a donut shop only to be greeted by cops]][[note]]Though the context for that one was different; in ''3'', it was to introduce Lewis into the film; in the original script for ''2'', it was Lewis needing back up as she was pursued by the Rebahs after they'd killed Reed and went to cops who were on strike to back her up[[/note]].

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* RefittedForSequel: As anyone familiar with Creator/FrankMiller's original script (including its comic book form, ''ComicBook/FrankMillersRoboCop'') will attest, it originally had elements that'd eventually appear in ''Film/RoboCop3'', like the Rehabs, OCP going through with tearing down Detroit and forcing people out of their homes, [[spoiler:Murphy being framed by the Rehabs for the death of one of his fellow officers[[note]]Reed in the script/comic, Lewis in ''3''[[/note]]]], [[AnAsskickingChristmas the Christmas time setting]], and even [[DonutMessWithACop the scene where a villain barges into a donut shop only to be greeted by cops]][[note]]Though the context for that one was different; in ''3'', it was to introduce Lewis into the film; in the original script for ''2'', it was Lewis needing [[spoiler:needing back up as she was pursued by the Rebahs after they'd killed Reed and went to cops who were on strike to back her up[[/note]].up]][[/note]].
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* BTeamSequel: Creator/PaulVerhoeven didn't return for the sequel, as he was busy with ''Film/TotalRecall1990'' and producer Jon Davison was working on ''Film/DickTracey''. The film also had new writers and Leonard Rosenman replaced Basil Poledouris as composer.

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* BTeamSequel: Creator/PaulVerhoeven didn't return for the sequel, as he was busy with ''Film/TotalRecall1990'' and producer Jon Davison was working on ''Film/DickTracey''.''Film/DickTracy''. The film also had new writers and Leonard Rosenman replaced Basil Poledouris as composer.

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* ActorSharedBackground: Murphy is said to be Irish Catholic by Faxx, the former's actor Weller is indeed of Irish descent.
* BTeamSequel: Creator/PaulVerhoeven didn't return for the sequel, as he was busy with ''Film/TotalRecall1990''. The film also had new writers.
* CaliforniaDoubling: The first film had Dallas for Detroit. ''[=RoboCop=] 2'' has UsefulNotes/{{Houston}} for Detroit.

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* ActorSharedBackground: Murphy is said to be Irish Catholic by Faxx, the former's actor Weller Faxx. Creator/PeterWeller is indeed of Irish descent.
* BTeamSequel: Creator/PaulVerhoeven didn't return for the sequel, as he was busy with ''Film/TotalRecall1990''. ''Film/TotalRecall1990'' and producer Jon Davison was working on ''Film/DickTracey''. The film also had new writers.
writers and Leonard Rosenman replaced Basil Poledouris as composer.
* CaliforniaDoubling: The first film had Dallas for Detroit. ''[=RoboCop=] 2'' This one has UsefulNotes/{{Houston}} for Detroit.



* CreatorKiller: This was Irvin Kirshner's final film.



** The story involving corrupt Officer Duffy was much more protracted in the film's initial cut, which included a much longer sequence where Duffy is tortured and killed onscreen as well as a running bit where other officers kept finding his severed body parts. The filmmakers knew these segments would have given the film an X rating and quickly rounded off the story to end with relatively little gore and no follow-up material.



** In 2013, Detroit filed for bankruptcy in real life. A state appointed emergency manager privatized and outsourced many of the city's services.
* RealityIsUnrealistic: Cain snapping Angie's neck on the close-up shot was done with the actual actress, Galyn Görg, and not a dummy. [[https://youtu.be/VzEvKPAU_QU?t=690 According to Robert Tippet]], she was incredibly flexible and had a very strong neck. Even when her head was almost at a 90 degree angle, she was completely fine and kept cranking her neck more when necessary.

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** In 2013, The City of Detroit is depicted as being cash-strapped where OCP owns the entire metropolitan area - as life imitating art, the City of Detroit filed for bankruptcy in real life. A state appointed emergency manager privatized and outsourced many of the city's services.
* RealityIsUnrealistic: Cain snapping Angie's neck
Chapter 9 Bankruptcy on the close-up shot was done July 18, 2013 with the actual actress, Galyn Görg, and not a dummy. [[https://youtu.be/VzEvKPAU_QU?t=690 According to Robert Tippet]], she was incredibly flexible and had a very strong neck. Even when her head was almost at a 90 degree angle, she was completely fine and kept cranking her neck more when necessary. an estimated $18 - $20 billion debt.



* TheWikiRule: The [[http://robocop.wikia.com/wiki/RoboCop_Wiki RoboCop Wiki]].

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* TheWikiRule: The [[http://robocop.wikia.com/wiki/RoboCop_Wiki RoboCop Wiki]].Wiki]].
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* SparedByTheCut: [[spoiler:Before it was split into this movie and ''Film/RoboCop3'', Creator/FrankMiller's original script saw the Rehabs kill Sgt. Reed to begin a plan to discredit Murphy. While that particular plot was dropped here, it was used for ''3'', only with Lewis, so Reed is able to survive both films. Likewise, the original script for ''2'' had Estevez, (Wanda De Jesus's character and depicted as a man in the comic) killed by the Rehabs.]]

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* SparedByTheCut: [[spoiler:Before it was split into this movie and ''Film/RoboCop3'', Creator/FrankMiller's original script saw the Rehabs kill Sgt. Reed to begin a plan to discredit Murphy. While that particular plot was dropped here, it was used for ''3'', only with Lewis, so Reed is able to survive both films. Likewise, the original script for ''2'' had Estevez, Estevez (Wanda De Jesus's character and depicted as a white man in the comic) killed by the Rehabs.]]
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* SparedByTheCut: [[spoiler:Before it was split into this movie and ''Film/RoboCop3'', Creator/FrankMiller's original script saw the Rehabs kill Sgt. Reed to begin a plan to discredit Murphy. While that particular plot was dropped here, it was used for ''3'', only with Lewis, so Reed is able to survive both films.]]

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* SparedByTheCut: [[spoiler:Before it was split into this movie and ''Film/RoboCop3'', Creator/FrankMiller's original script saw the Rehabs kill Sgt. Reed to begin a plan to discredit Murphy. While that particular plot was dropped here, it was used for ''3'', only with Lewis, so Reed is able to survive both films. Likewise, the original script for ''2'' had Estevez, (Wanda De Jesus's character and depicted as a man in the comic) killed by the Rehabs.]]

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* TheDanza: Creator/FrankMiller has a cameo as a drug lab tech named Frank. He's the guy Cain talks to about the new Blue Velvet brand of Nuke.



* TheDanza: Creator/FrankMiller has a cameo as a drug lab tech named Frank. He's the guy Cain talks to about the new Blue Velvet brand of Nuke.

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* TheDanza: Creator/FrankMiller has a cameo as a drug lab tech named Frank. He's SparedByTheCut: [[spoiler:Before it was split into this movie and ''Film/RoboCop3'', Creator/FrankMiller's original script saw the guy Cain talks Rehabs kill Sgt. Reed to about the new Blue Velvet brand of Nuke.begin a plan to discredit Murphy. While that particular plot was dropped here, it was used for ''3'', only with Lewis, so Reed is able to survive both films.]]
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* RefittedForSequel: As anyone familiar with Creator/FrankMiller's original script (including its comic book form, ''ComicBook/FrankMillersRoboCop'') will attest, it originally had elements that'd eventually appear in ''Film/RoboCop3'', like the Rehabs, OCP going through with tearing down Detroit and forcing people out of their homes, [[AnAsskickingChristmas the Christmas time setting]], and even [[DonutMessWithACop the scene where a villain barges into a donut shop only to be greeted by cops]][[note]]Though the context for that one was different; in ''3'', it was to introduce Lewis into the film; in the original script for ''2'', it was Lewis needing back up as she was pursued by the Rebahs after they'd killed Reed and went to cops who were on strike to back her up[[/note]].

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* RefittedForSequel: As anyone familiar with Creator/FrankMiller's original script (including its comic book form, ''ComicBook/FrankMillersRoboCop'') will attest, it originally had elements that'd eventually appear in ''Film/RoboCop3'', like the Rehabs, OCP going through with tearing down Detroit and forcing people out of their homes, [[spoiler:Murphy being framed by the Rehabs for the death of one of his fellow officers[[note]]Reed in the script/comic, Lewis in ''3''[[/note]]]], [[AnAsskickingChristmas the Christmas time setting]], and even [[DonutMessWithACop the scene where a villain barges into a donut shop only to be greeted by cops]][[note]]Though the context for that one was different; in ''3'', it was to introduce Lewis into the film; in the original script for ''2'', it was Lewis needing back up as she was pursued by the Rebahs after they'd killed Reed and went to cops who were on strike to back her up[[/note]].
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* RefittedForSequel: As anyone familiar with Creator/FrankMiller's original script (including its comic book form, ''ComicBook/FrankMillersRoboCop'') will attest, it originally had elements that'd eventually appear in ''Film/RoboCop3'', like the Rehabs, OCP going through with tearing down Detroit and forcing people out of their homes, [[AnAsskickingChristmas the Christmas time setting]], and even [[DonutMessWithACop the scene where a villain barges into a donut shop only to be greeted by cops]][[note]]Though the context for that one was different, in ''3'', it was to introduce Lewis into the film; in the original script for ''2'', it was Lewis needing back up for she was pursued by the Rebahs after they'd killed Reed.[[/note]]

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* RefittedForSequel: As anyone familiar with Creator/FrankMiller's original script (including its comic book form, ''ComicBook/FrankMillersRoboCop'') will attest, it originally had elements that'd eventually appear in ''Film/RoboCop3'', like the Rehabs, OCP going through with tearing down Detroit and forcing people out of their homes, [[AnAsskickingChristmas the Christmas time setting]], and even [[DonutMessWithACop the scene where a villain barges into a donut shop only to be greeted by cops]][[note]]Though the context for that one was different, different; in ''3'', it was to introduce Lewis into the film; in the original script for ''2'', it was Lewis needing back up for as she was pursued by the Rebahs after they'd killed Reed.[[/note]]Reed and went to cops who were on strike to back her up[[/note]].
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* RefittedForSequel: As anyone familiar with Creator/FrankMiller's original script (including its comic book form, ''ComicBook/FrankMillersRoboCop'') will attest, it originally had elements that'd eventually appear in ''Film/RoboCop3'', like the Rehabs, OCP going through with tearing down Detroit and forcing people out of their homes, [[AnAsskickingChristmas the Christmas time setting]], and even [[DonutMessWithACop the scene where a villain barges into a donut shop only to be greeted by cops]][[note]]Though the context for that one was different, in ''3'', it was to introduce Lewis into the film; in the original script for ''2'', it was Lewis needing back up for she was pursued by the Rebahs after they'd killed Reed.[[/note]]
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* RealityIsUnrealistic: Cain snapping Angie's neck on the close-up shot was done with the actual actress, Galyn Görg, and not a dummy. [[https://youtu.be/VzEvKPAU_QU?t=690 According to Robert Tippet]], she was incredibly flexible and had a very strong neck. Even when her head was almost at a 90 degree angle, she was completely fine and kept bending it more when necessary.

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* RealityIsUnrealistic: Cain snapping Angie's neck on the close-up shot was done with the actual actress, Galyn Görg, and not a dummy. [[https://youtu.be/VzEvKPAU_QU?t=690 According to Robert Tippet]], she was incredibly flexible and had a very strong neck. Even when her head was almost at a 90 degree angle, she was completely fine and kept bending it cranking her neck more when necessary.
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* RealityIsUnrealistic: Cain snapping Angie's neck on the close-up shot was done with the actual actress, Galyn Görg, and not a dummy. [[https://youtu.be/VzEvKPAU_QU?t=690 According to Robert Tippet]], she was incredibly flexible and had a very strong neck. Even when her head was almost at a 90 degree angle, she was completely fine and kept bending it more when necessary.

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