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** Musically, both ''Know Your Enemy'' (except "Ocean Spray" and "So Why So Sad") and ''Lifeblood'' are looked at rather dimly. Then there were those stunts they did during their early years...



* OldShame: Musically, both ''Know Your Enemy'' (except "Ocean Spray" and "So Why So Sad") and ''Lifeblood'' are looked at rather dimly. Then there were those stunts they did during their early years...
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* BetterExportForYou: Oh sweet Jesus. Every single one of their studio albums includes at least ''some'' bonus material for the Japanese release:
** The Japanese release of ''Generation Terrorists'' adds "A Vision of Dead Desire" as a bonus track. The 1998 Japanese reissue, meanwhile, replaces it with "Motown Junk".
** The Japanese edition of ''Gold Against the Soul'' includes a bonus disc containing five songs recorded from a live show at Club Citta in Kawasaki, Kanagawa. The 1998 Japanese reissue omits the disc, but compensates by including three remixes of "Roses in the Hospital" as bonus tracks, while the 2009 Japanese reissue features an expanded version of the original bonus disc that adds on an extra live track from the Club Citta show and various B-sides.
** The Japanese release of ''The Holy Bible'' includes three live tracks from Glastonbury 1994 as bonus material, with a 2000 reissue in the country adding on a fourth live song recorded at Clapham Grand months prior to the Glastonbury show.
** The Japanese edition of ''Everything Must Go'' slots "No-one Knows What It's Like to Be Me" between "The Girl Who Wanted to Be God" and "Removables" and adds "Black Garden" between "Interiors (Song for Willem de Kooning)" and "Further Away".
** The Japanese release of ''This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours'' adds "Socialist Serenade" and "Black Holes For the Young" to the end as bonus tracks.
** The Japanese edition of ''Know Your Enemy'' appends "Just a Kid" and "The Masses Against the Classes" to the end as bonus tracks, while the Australian edition includes the latter song and Music/TheAvalanches' remix of "So Why So Sad".
** The Japanese release of ''Lifeblood'' adds "The Soulmates" and "Antarctic" as bonus tracks.
** The Japanese edition of ''Send Away the Tigers'' adds on a CoverVersion of Music/JohnLennon's [[Music/JohnLennonPlasticOnoBand "Working Class Hero"]], "Love Letter to the Future", "Morning Comrades", and an acoustic version of the TitleTrack as bonus tracks. The 2009 Japanese re-release, meanwhile, tacks on a whole bonus disc littered with extra content.
** The Japanese release of ''Journal for Plague Lovers'' includes "William's Last Words", "Alien Orders/Invisible Armies", and a CoverVersion of Felt's "Primitive Painters" with the HiddenTrack "Bag Lady" as bonus material.
** The Japanese edition of ''Postcards from a Young Man'' includes "Red Rubber" and "Evidence Against Myself" as bonus tracks.
** The Japanese release of ''Rewind the Film'' appends "Death of a Digital Ghost" to the end of the album as a bonus track.
** The Japanese edition of ''Futurology'' includes "Antisocialmanifesto", "Kodawari", and live versions of "Ocean Spray" and "You Love Us" as bonus tracks.
** The Japanese release of ''Resistance is Futile'' features "Holding Patterns", "Mirror Gaze", and a remix of "International Blue" as bonus tracks.
** The Japanese edition of ''The Ultra Vivid Lament'' includes "My Drowning World" and "These Dark Roads" as bonus tracks.
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** ''The Holy Bible'' was intended to be released in the United States with a new mix from producer Tom Lord-Alge, but these plans fell through for some reason. The band have stated that, in a rare case of them actually liking something from their American record company, they prefer the US mix over the one used back in their country. The US mix was later released on the 10th anniversary reissue of the album.
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* CreatorDrivenSuccessor: ''Journal for Plague Lovers'' was inevitably seen as this to ''The Holy Bible'', what with the Richey Edwards lyrics and the occasional sampling.

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* CreatorBacklash: The band members dislike the version of "Specators of Suicide" that appears on ''Generation Terrorists'', claiming it sounds like "fucking Lion Sleeps Tonight" and prefer the more upbeat earlier Heavenly version.

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The band members dislike the version of "Specators of Suicide" that appears on ''Generation Terrorists'', claiming it sounds like "fucking Lion Sleeps Tonight" and prefer the more upbeat earlier Heavenly version.



** The special edition of Greatest Hits collection ''Forever Delayed'' (2002) had a bonus CD of remixes.

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** The special edition of Greatest Hits collection ''Forever Delayed'' (2002) had has a bonus CD of remixes.



** The deluxe edition of ''Resistance is Futile'' has a bonus CD of demos and bonus tracks and a book with photos of the band.

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** ''Postcards From A Young Man'' has a [=2CD=] deluxe edition with a bonus CD of demos, and a deluxe 'Mementos' boxed set with a DVD about the album's making, a cassette with demos, and a scrapbook by Nicky Wire with photos of the band and handwritten lyrics, lists and notes.
** The deluxe edition of ''Rewind the Film'' has a bonus CD of demos and live tracks.
** The deluxe edition of ''Futurology'' has a bonus CD of demos and bonus tracks and a book with photos.
** The deluxe edition of ''Resistance is Futile'' has a bonus CD of demos and bonus tracks and a book with photos of the band. band.
** The deluxe edition of ''The Ultra Vivid Lament'' comes with the album, a bonus CD of demos, and a book with the album's lyrics and photos by Nicky Wire.
** The deluxe edition of the 2022 {{recut}} of ''Know Your Enemy'' has a bonus CD of demos.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Originally the band wanted Music/KylieMinogue to do vocals for "Little Baby Nothing", but she couldn't do it due to contractual reasons.

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Originally the band wanted Music/KylieMinogue to do vocals for "Little Baby Nothing", but she couldn't do it due to contractual reasons.

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* AuthorExistenceFailure: Subverted. The disappearance of the main lyricist would be the death knell for most other bands, but after Richey Edwards' disappearance, the band kept trucking on with Nicky Wire taking over lyrical duties fully. And even then, disappearing hasn't stopped Richey's lyrics from turning up after his disappearance in two albums[[note]]''Everything Must Go'' and ''Journal For Plague Lovers''[[/note]] and an EP.[[note]]''God Save The Manics''[[/note]]


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* DiedDuringProduction: The disappearance of the main lyricist would be the death knell for most other bands, but after Richey Edwards' disappearance, the band kept trucking on with Nicky Wire taking over lyrical duties fully. And even then, disappearing hasn't stopped Richey's lyrics from turning up after his disappearance in two albums[[note]]''Everything Must Go'' and ''Journal For Plague Lovers''[[/note]] and an EP.[[note]]''God Save The Manics''[[/note]]

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* AuthorExistenceFailure: Subverted. The disappearance of the main lyricist would be the death knell for most other bands, but after Richey Edwards' disappearance, the band kept trucking on with Nicky Wire taking over lyrical duties fully. And even then, disappearing hasn't stopped Richey's lyrics from turning up after his disappearance in two albums[[note]]''Everything Must Go'' and ''Journal For Plague Lovers''[[/note]] and an EP.[[note]]''God Save The Manics''[[/note]]



* ReclusiveArtist: Richey Edwards, where are you?

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* ReclusiveArtist: Assuming he's still alive, a big assumption to make, under the circumstances, Richey Edwards, where are you?James Edwards would be one of these: he went missing in 1995 and there haven't been any confirmed sightings of him since. 13 years after he vanished, he took this trope to its LogicalExtreme: he was declared "presumed deceased"--in other words, LegallyDead. The band has still been keeping his share of their royalties in a bank account since his disappearance.

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* NamedAfterSomebodyFamous: James Dean Bradfield, after Creator/JamesDean. Allegedly his father wanted to name him Creator/ClintEastwood first, but his wife threatened to divorce him, if he named their kid that.

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* LimitedSpecialCollectorsUltimateEdition: The anniversary editions of ''The Holy Bible'', ''Everything Must Go'' and ''Send Away The Tigers''.
** Also the book edition of ''Journal for Plague Lovers'' - the album, a CD of demos and alternate takes, and a book containing photos of the original lyrics and signed by all three remaining band members.
** The special edition of Greatest Hits collection ''Forever Delayed'' (2002) had a bonus CD of remixes.
** The limited edition of single collection ''National Treasures'' (2011) has a DVD with music videos for all 38 of the Manics' singles up till then, and a book containing photos of the band, mostly Richey-era.
** The limited edition box set reissue of ''Generation Terrorists'', which notably included an extra disc of previously unreleased demos. It was in such high demand that it sold out, and people were paying large amounts of money for it on Ebay. The band have thought about getting another pressing done.
** The deluxe edition of ''Resistance is Futile'' has a bonus CD of demos and bonus tracks and a book with photos of the band.
* NamedAfterSomebodyFamous: James Dean Bradfield, after Creator/JamesDean. Allegedly his father wanted to name him Creator/ClintEastwood first, but his wife threatened to divorce him, him if he named their kid that.

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* NamedAfterSomebodyFamous: James Dean Bradfield, after Creator/JamesDean. Allegedly his father wanted to name him Creator/ClintEastwood first, but his wife threatened to divorce him, if he named their kid that.



** Prior to his disappearance, Richey expressed a desire for the follow-up to ''The Holy Bible'' to be a Music/{{Pantera}} [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] Music/NineInchNails [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] [[Music/PrimalScream Screamadelica]] ConceptAlbum. Although he later expressed doubts over whether they would have done such a record.

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** Prior to his disappearance, Richey expressed a desire for the follow-up to ''The Holy Bible'' to be a Music/{{Pantera}} [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] Music/NineInchNails [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] [[Music/PrimalScream Screamadelica]] ConceptAlbum. Although he James later expressed doubts over whether they would have done such a record.
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** They aren't too happy overall with ''Gold Against the Soul'', as its' overtly-polished, radio-friendly production proved to be the catalyst for creating the much rawer and far less commercial ''Holy Bible''.

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** They aren't too happy overall with ''Gold Against the Soul'', as its' its overtly-polished, radio-friendly production proved to be the catalyst for creating the much rawer and far less commercial ''Holy Bible''.



** Prior to his disappearance, Richey expressed a desire for the follow-up to ''The Holy Bible'' to be a Music/{{Pantera}} [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] Music/NineInchNails [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] [[Music/PrimalScream Screamadelica]] ConceptAlbum. Although he later expressed doubts over whether they would have done such record.

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** Prior to his disappearance, Richey expressed a desire for the follow-up to ''The Holy Bible'' to be a Music/{{Pantera}} [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] Music/NineInchNails [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] [[Music/PrimalScream Screamadelica]] ConceptAlbum. Although he later expressed doubts over whether they would have done such a record.
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** Prior to his disappearance, Richey expressed a desire for the follow-up to ''The Holy Bible'' to be a Music/{{Pantera}} [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] Music/NineInchNails [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] [[PrimalScream Screamadelica]] ConceptAlbum. Although he later expressed doubts over whether they would have done such record.

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** Prior to his disappearance, Richey expressed a desire for the follow-up to ''The Holy Bible'' to be a Music/{{Pantera}} [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] Music/NineInchNails [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] [[PrimalScream [[Music/PrimalScream Screamadelica]] ConceptAlbum. Although he later expressed doubts over whether they would have done such record.
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** Prior to his disappearance, Richey expressed a desire for the follow-up to ''The Holy Bible'' to be a {{Pantera}} [[XMeetsY meets]] NineInchNails [[XMeetsY meets]] [[PrimalScream Screamadelica]] ConceptAlbum. Although he later expressed doubts over whether they would have done such record.

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** Prior to his disappearance, Richey expressed a desire for the follow-up to ''The Holy Bible'' to be a {{Pantera}} [[XMeetsY Music/{{Pantera}} [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] NineInchNails [[XMeetsY Music/NineInchNails [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] [[PrimalScream Screamadelica]] ConceptAlbum. Although he later expressed doubts over whether they would have done such record.

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* CreatorBreakdown: Richey James, especially while writing the lyrics to ''The Holy Bible'' and ''Journal for Plague Lovers''.

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* CreatorBreakdown: Richey James, Edwards, especially while writing the lyrics to ''The Holy Bible'' and ''Journal for Plague Lovers''.



** Prior to his disappearance, Richey expressed a desire for the follow-up to ''The Holy Bible'' to be a {{Pantera}} [[XMeetsY meets]] NineInchNails [[XMeetsY meets]] [[PrimalScream Screamadelica]] ConceptAlbum. Although James later expressed doubts over whether they would have done such record.

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** Prior to his disappearance, Richey expressed a desire for the follow-up to ''The Holy Bible'' to be a {{Pantera}} [[XMeetsY meets]] NineInchNails [[XMeetsY meets]] [[PrimalScream Screamadelica]] ConceptAlbum. Although James he later expressed doubts over whether they would have done such record.record.
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** They aren't too happy overall with ''Gold Against the Soul'', as its' overtly-polished production proved to be the catalyst for creating the much rawer ''Holy Bible''.

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** They aren't too happy overall with ''Gold Against the Soul'', as its' overtly-polished overtly-polished, radio-friendly production proved to be the catalyst for creating the much rawer and far less commercial ''Holy Bible''.
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** They aren't too happy overall with ''Gold Against the Soul'', as its' overtly-polished production proved to be the catalyst for creating the much rawer ''Holy Bible''.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Originally the band wanted KylieMinogue to do vocals for "Little Baby Nothing", but she couldn't do it due to contractual reasons.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Originally the band wanted KylieMinogue Music/KylieMinogue to do vocals for "Little Baby Nothing", but she couldn't do it due to contractual reasons.
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* CreatorBacklash: The band members dislike the version of "Specators of Suicide" that appears on ''Generation Terrorists'', claiming it sounds like "fucking Lion Sleeps Tonight" and prefer the more upbeat earlier Heavenly version.
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* ReclusiveArtist: Richey Edwards, where are you?

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* ReclusiveArtist: Richey Edwards, where are you?you?
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Originally the band wanted KylieMinogue to do vocals for "Little Baby Nothing", but she couldn't do it due to contractual reasons.
** Prior to his disappearance, Richey expressed a desire for the follow-up to ''The Holy Bible'' to be a {{Pantera}} [[XMeetsY meets]] NineInchNails [[XMeetsY meets]] [[PrimalScream Screamadelica]] ConceptAlbum. Although James later expressed doubts over whether they would have done such record.
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* CreatorBreakdown: Richey James, especially while writing the lyrics to The Holy Bible and Journal for Plague Lovers.

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* CreatorBreakdown: Richey James, especially while writing the lyrics to The ''The Holy Bible Bible'' and Journal ''Journal for Plague Lovers.Lovers''.
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* CreatorBreakdown: Richey James, especially while writing the lyrics to The Holy Bible and Journal for Plague Lovers.
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* ThePeteBest: Miles 'Flicker' Woodward.

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* ThePeteBest: Miles 'Flicker' Woodward.Woodward, their first bassist who left in 1988.
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* The Pete Best: Miles 'Flicker' Woodward.

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* The Pete Best: ThePeteBest: Miles 'Flicker' Woodward.
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* The Pete Best: Miles 'Flicker' Woodward.
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* Reclusive Artist: Richey Edwards, where are you?

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* OldShame: Musically, both ''Know Your Enemy'' (except "Ocean Spray" and "So Why So Sad") and ''Lifeblood'' are looked at rather dimly. Then there were those stunts they did during their early years...

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* OldShame: Musically, both ''Know Your Enemy'' (except "Ocean Spray" and "So Why So Sad") and ''Lifeblood'' are looked at rather dimly. Then there were those stunts they did during their early years...years...
* Reclusive Artist: Richey Edwards, where are you?
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* OldShame: Musically, both ''Know Your Enemy'' (except "Ocean Spray" and "So Why So Sad") and ''Lifeblood'' are looked at rather dimly. Then there were those stunts they did during their early years...

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