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** Creator/AdamDriver, Creator/MattDamon, Creator/TomHanks, Creator/JeanDujardin, Creator/BradleyCooper and Creator/JoaquinPhoenix were considered for Comicbook/LexLuthor before the casting of Creator/JesseEisenberg. Phoenix would eventually go on to portray [[Comicbook/TheJoker Arthur Fleck]] in ''Film/{{Joker|2019}}''.
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** Creator/LeonardoDiCaprio, Creator/AdamDriver, Creator/MattDamon, Creator/TomHanks, Creator/JeanDujardin, Creator/BradleyCooper and Creator/JoaquinPhoenix were considered for Comicbook/LexLuthor before the casting of Creator/JesseEisenberg. Phoenix would eventually go on to portray [[Comicbook/TheJoker Arthur Fleck]] in ''Film/{{Joker|2019}}''.
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** Even funnier, the movie shares major flaws of ''Age of Ultron'' and ''Civil War'' as pointed out by fans: too much time wasted on awkwardly setting up other movies from the franchise (''Age of Ultron'') and the villain's needlessly complicated plan hinging on contrived coincidences (''Civil War'').
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** [[https://www.gamesradar.com/zack-snyder-batman-v-superman-sfx-exclusive/ According to Zack Snyder]], Warner Bros. had hatred toward the film as the studio was pressuring him to "divorce" Justice League from this movie.
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* OldShame: [[https://www.gamesradar.com/zack-snyder-batman-v-superman-sfx-exclusive/ According to Zack Snyder]], Warner Bros. had hatred toward the film as the studio was pressuring him to "divorce" Justice League from this movie.
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*** Creator/JoshBrolin and Creator/JonHamm were also approached for the part of Bruce Wayne. Brolin previously played ComicBook/JonahHex in his [[Film/JonahHex titular solo movie.]]
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*** Creator/JoshBrolin and Creator/JonHamm were also approached for the part of Bruce Wayne. Brolin previously played ComicBook/JonahHex in his [[Film/JonahHex [[Film/JonahHex2010 titular solo movie.]]
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* IKnewIt:
** Many had speculated that [[spoiler:Doomsday]] would be making an appearance from a number of rumors, including a FreezeFrameBonus of what appeared to be one of his spikes in the second trailer. They were proven correct with the arrival of the third trailer.
** Many correctly guessed that Creator/CallanMulvey would be playing Anatoli Knyazev (known as [=KGBeast=] in the comics), who was similarly rumored to appear.
** From the moment the film's logo was revealed, many hardcore Batman fans predicted that the batsuit and the portrayal of Batman would be influenced by ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' (the Bat-Signal in the logo and film resembles the distinct design from that comic series). Most of these fans also predicted that Batman would win the fight against Superman.
** Dan Amboyer was believed by many to be [[spoiler:the DCEU's Green Lantern. While the movie doesn't explicitly call his character "Hal Jordan", he is referred to as "Highball", the character's callsign, suggesting that, while he's not a part of the Green Lantern Corps just yet, he soon will be]].
** Either the appearance of ComicBook/WonderWoman or the "Dawn of Justice" subtitle, or even [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs both at once]], led many viewers to predict that the conflict would ultimately result in the formation of the [[Film/JusticeLeague2017 Justice]] [[Film/ZackSnydersJusticeLeague League]].
** Many fans speculated that Wonder Woman's leitmotif in this movie (the guitar and drums driven piece, best heard when she tanks Doomsday's heat vision) would wind up becoming the theme for her own movie, which it did a year later.
** Many fans speculated that [[spoiler:the costume of the dead Robin]] we see belonged to [[spoiler:Jason Todd]], considering that one major Batman plot line was [[spoiler:Todd's death]]. Although Zack Snyder had other plans (detailed under WhatCouldHaveBeen), Warner Bros has confirmed that [[spoiler:the costume ''is'' Jason Todd's]], and by extension, confirming that this Batman had at least [[spoiler:2 Robins]][[note]]assuming that Nightwing was Robin at one point[[/note]].
** Many had speculated that [[spoiler:Doomsday]] would be making an appearance from a number of rumors, including a FreezeFrameBonus of what appeared to be one of his spikes in the second trailer. They were proven correct with the arrival of the third trailer.
** Many correctly guessed that Creator/CallanMulvey would be playing Anatoli Knyazev (known as [=KGBeast=] in the comics), who was similarly rumored to appear.
** From the moment the film's logo was revealed, many hardcore Batman fans predicted that the batsuit and the portrayal of Batman would be influenced by ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' (the Bat-Signal in the logo and film resembles the distinct design from that comic series). Most of these fans also predicted that Batman would win the fight against Superman.
** Dan Amboyer was believed by many to be [[spoiler:the DCEU's Green Lantern. While the movie doesn't explicitly call his character "Hal Jordan", he is referred to as "Highball", the character's callsign, suggesting that, while he's not a part of the Green Lantern Corps just yet, he soon will be]].
** Either the appearance of ComicBook/WonderWoman or the "Dawn of Justice" subtitle, or even [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs both at once]], led many viewers to predict that the conflict would ultimately result in the formation of the [[Film/JusticeLeague2017 Justice]] [[Film/ZackSnydersJusticeLeague League]].
** Many fans speculated that Wonder Woman's leitmotif in this movie (the guitar and drums driven piece, best heard when she tanks Doomsday's heat vision) would wind up becoming the theme for her own movie, which it did a year later.
** Many fans speculated that [[spoiler:the costume of the dead Robin]] we see belonged to [[spoiler:Jason Todd]], considering that one major Batman plot line was [[spoiler:Todd's death]]. Although Zack Snyder had other plans (detailed under WhatCouldHaveBeen), Warner Bros has confirmed that [[spoiler:the costume ''is'' Jason Todd's]], and by extension, confirming that this Batman had at least [[spoiler:2 Robins]][[note]]assuming that Nightwing was Robin at one point[[/note]].
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** During an appearance on the Happy Sad Confused Podcast, David S. Goyer reveals that he believes it was a mistake for them to rush to a Batman and Superman crossover film and that they should have made a stand alone sequel to Man of Steel before building the DC Extended Universe. Although Goyer strongly emphasis that this was a studio mandated decision to catchup with the MCU, one he disagreed with at the time but was in no position to deny.
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* TroubledProduction: Creator/ChrisTerrio describes him being brought on to write the script as an effort to placate concerns Creator/BenAffleck had with the story as it was. Terrio said he felt like it was him and Snyder doing everything they could to wrangle the demands of the studio into something coherent (Batman had to legitimately try to kill Superman to make a VersusTitle, and they didn't like either that plot point or the title), especially as it became a lead-in to ''Film/JusticeLeague'' and other movies were put in the pipeline seemingly at random. They also were building the movie throughout with the idea it would be three hours long, but was cut down to 2.5 hours only months prior resulting in a fractured story and compromising first impressions.
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* TroubledProduction: Creator/ChrisTerrio describes him being brought on to write the script as an effort to placate concerns Creator/BenAffleck had with the story as it was. Terrio said he felt like it was him and Snyder doing everything they could to wrangle the demands of the studio into something coherent (Batman had to legitimately try to kill Superman to make a VersusTitle, and they didn't like either that plot point or the title), especially as it became a lead-in to ''Film/JusticeLeague'' ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'' and other movies were put in the pipeline seemingly at random. They also were building the movie throughout with the idea it would be three hours long, but was cut down to 2.5 hours only months prior resulting in a fractured story and compromising first impressions.
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** Batman's [[PrecisionFStrike "Oh shi-"]] moment when he sees [[spoiler:Doomsday]] charging his lasers was improvised by Creator/BenAffleck. He decided to throw in the line because it was funny and unexpected, especially coming from a character like Batman, as well as being an accidental CallBack to ''Film/ManOfSteel''.
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** Batman's [[PrecisionFStrike "Oh shi-"]] shit"]] moment when he sees [[spoiler:Doomsday]] charging his lasers was improvised by Creator/BenAffleck. He decided to throw in the line because it was funny and unexpected, especially coming from a character like Batman, as well as being an accidental CallBack to ''Film/ManOfSteel''.
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* TroubledProduction: Creator/ChrisTerrio describes him being brought on to write the script as an effort to placate concerns Creator/BenAffleck had with the story as it was. Terrio said he felt like it was him and Snyder doing everything they could to wrangle the demands of the studio into something coherent (Batman had to legitimately try to kill Superman to make a VersusTitle, and they didn't like either that plot point or the title), especially as it became a lead-in to ''Film/JusticeLeague'' and other movies were put in the pipeline seemingly at random. They also were building the movie throughout with the idea it would be three hours long, but was cut down to 2.5 hours only months prior resulting in a fractured story and compromising first impressions.
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*** Creator/JoshBrolin and Creator/JonHamm were also approached for the part of Bruce Wayne. Brolin previously played ComicBook/JonahHex in the his [[Film/JonahHex titular solo movie.]]
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*** Creator/JoshBrolin and Creator/JonHamm were also approached for the part of Bruce Wayne. Brolin previously played ComicBook/JonahHex in the his [[Film/JonahHex titular solo movie.]]
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*** Creator/AnsonMount and Creator/ScottAdkins [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynbnSykhV8I auditioned for the role of Bruce Wayne as well]]. Mount previously portrayed Paul Hayden in ''Series/{{Smallville}}'', and would later voice the character in ''WesternAnimation/{{Injustice|2021}}''.
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*** Creator/AnsonMount and Creator/ScottAdkins [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynbnSykhV8I [[https://youtu.be/h0JpNAXs1sI auditioned for the role of Bruce Wayne as well]]. Mount previously portrayed Paul Hayden in ''Series/{{Smallville}}'', and would later voice the character in ''WesternAnimation/{{Injustice|2021}}''.
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*** Creator/JeffreyDeanMorgan stated that during the production of ''Film/{{Watchmen}}'', Creator/ZackSnyder expressed interest in adapting ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' and casting him as Batmanin the film. Morgan would go on to play Thomas Wayne in the movie, who coincidentally takes on the mantle of Batman in ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}''.
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*** Creator/JeffreyDeanMorgan stated that during the production of ''Film/{{Watchmen}}'', Creator/ZackSnyder expressed interest in adapting ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' and casting him as Batmanin the film.Batman. Morgan would go on to play Thomas Wayne in the movie, who coincidentally takes on the mantle of Batman in ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}''.
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*** Both show Batman as a troubled, broken man who is struggling to get over a loss that happened at the hands of The Joker.
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*** Both show Batman as a troubled, broken man who is struggling to get over a loss that happened at the hands of The the Joker.
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*** Creator/ScottAdkins [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynbnSykhV8I auditioned for the role of Bruce Wayne as well]]. When asked in an interview why he wasn't chosen, Adkins responded with this.
--->'''Adkins:''' Look, Ben Affleck was always going to have the part, all right? He's got [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscars.]]
--->'''Adkins:''' Look, Ben Affleck was always going to have the part, all right? He's got [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscars.]]
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*** Creator/AnsonMount and Creator/ScottAdkins [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynbnSykhV8I auditioned for the role of Bruce Wayne as well]]. When asked Mount previously portrayed Paul Hayden in an interview why he wasn't chosen, Adkins responded with this.
--->'''Adkins:''' Look, Ben Affleck was always going to have''Series/{{Smallville}}'', and would later voice the part, all right? He's got [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscars.]]character in ''WesternAnimation/{{Injustice|2021}}''.
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*** Creator/JeffreyDeanMorgan stated that during the production of ''Film/{{Watchmen}}'', Creator/ZackSnyder expressed interest in adapting ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' and casting him as Batman in the film. Morgan would go on to play Thomas Wayne in the movie, who coincidentally takes on the mantle of Batman in ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}''.
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*** Creator/JeffreyDeanMorgan stated that during the production of ''Film/{{Watchmen}}'', Creator/ZackSnyder expressed interest in adapting ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' and casting him as Batman in Batmanin the film. Morgan would go on to play Thomas Wayne in the movie, who coincidentally takes on the mantle of Batman in ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}''.
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* EndofAnEra: Thanks to a legal campaign led by Marc Nobleman and Athena Finger, Batman V. Superman would be the first entry where Bill Finger would be officially credited as a co-creator of Batman, bringing an end to the era where Bob Kane was acknowledged as the sole creator of Batman.
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* EndofAnEra: Thanks to a legal campaign led by Marc Nobleman and Athena Finger, Batman V. Superman would be the first
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entry where Bill Finger would be officially credited as a co-creator of Batman, bringing an end to the era where Bob Kane was acknowledged as the sole creator of Batman.
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* EndofAnEra: Thanks to a legal campaign led by Marc Nobleman and Athena Finger, Batman V. Superman would be the first
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*** Creator/LukeEvans, Creator/OrlandoBloom, and Creator/RichardArmitage were also considered for the part of Bruce Wayne before the casting of Affleck.
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** Creator/AdamDriver, Creator/MattDamon, Creator/TomHanks, Creator/JeanDujardin, Creator/BradleyCooper, and Creator/JoaquinPhoenix were considered for Comicbook/LexLuthor before the casting of Creator/JesseEisenberg. Phoenix would eventually go on to portray [[Comicbook/TheJoker Arthur Fleck]] in ''Film/{{Joker|2019}}''.
** Creator/TimothyDalton was considered for the role of Alfred Pennyworth before Creator/JeremyIrons was cast. Dalton would later go on to play the Chief in ''[[Series/DoomPatrol2019 Doom Patrol]]''.
** Creator/TimothyDalton was considered for the role of Alfred Pennyworth before Creator/JeremyIrons was cast. Dalton would later go on to play the Chief in ''[[Series/DoomPatrol2019 Doom Patrol]]''.
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** Creator/AdamDriver, Creator/MattDamon, Creator/TomHanks, Creator/JeanDujardin, Creator/BradleyCooper, Creator/BradleyCooper and Creator/JoaquinPhoenix were considered for Comicbook/LexLuthor before the casting of Creator/JesseEisenberg. Phoenix would eventually go on to portray [[Comicbook/TheJoker Arthur Fleck]] in ''Film/{{Joker|2019}}''.
** Creator/TimothyDalton was considered for the role of Alfred Pennyworth before Creator/JeremyIrons was cast. Dalton would later go on to play the Chief in''[[Series/DoomPatrol2019 Doom Patrol]]''.''{{Series/Doom Patrol|2019}}''.
** Creator/TimothyDalton was considered for the role of Alfred Pennyworth before Creator/JeremyIrons was cast. Dalton would later go on to play the Chief in
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** Writer Creator/ChrisTerrio is highly critical of the theatrical cut, stating that the removal of 30 minutes from his screenplay led to it being muddled and disjointed (which was felt in many reviews). He's since said that he was unfairly blamed for the movie's reception, arguing that things would have gone differently had those cuts not been made (he also detailed that the movie was going to be ''darker'' if not for rewrites of his). Also not helping things is the way the movie impacted his career and personal life, with some of his friends distancing themselves from him after the movie underperformed. He also never liked the title, having voiced displeasure at the [[ExecutiveMeddling studio-mandated]] ''Batman v Superman'' portion of it, feeling that it felt like a "tone-deaf" marketing ploy.
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** Writer Creator/ChrisTerrio is detailed that the movie was going to be ''darker'' if not for rewrites of his, and he came in after the basic story was already formed so there was not much he could change and he spent most of the time just trying to get it as coherent as possible (Batman HAD to try and kill Superman, so he wrote it as a RageBreakingPoint), and still had his own problems with the script. He was also highly critical of the theatrical cut, stating that cut as the removal of 30 minutes from his screenplay the story, after being told a three-hour movie is fine, led to it being muddled and disjointed (which which was felt reflected in many reviews). reviews. He's since said that he was unfairly blamed for the movie's reception, arguing that things would have gone differently had those cuts not been made (he also detailed that the movie was going to be ''darker'' if not for rewrites of his).made. Also not helping things is the way the movie impacted his career and personal life, with some of his friends distancing themselves from him after the movie underperformed. He also never liked the title, having voiced displeasure at the [[ExecutiveMeddling studio-mandated]] ''Batman v Superman'' portion of it, feeling that it felt like a "tone-deaf" marketing ploy.
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** The films title wasn't supposed to be a vs. title at first. Warner Bros. had registered many different, yet similar titles. In order: ''Man of Steel: Battle the Knight, Man of Steel: Beyond Darkness, Man of Steel: Black of Knight, Man of Steel: Darkness Falls, Man of Steel: Knight Falls, Man of Steel: Shadow of the Knight, Man of Steel: The Blackest Hour'' and last but not least, ''Man of Steel: The Darkness Within''. All of them weren't liked by fans for trying to hard to be darker and edgier sounding, which probably lead to the massive title change.
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** The films title wasn't supposed to be a vs. title at first. Warner Bros. had registered many different, yet similar titles. In order: ''Man of Steel: Battle the Knight, Man of Steel: Beyond Darkness, Man of Steel: Black of Knight, Man of Steel: Darkness Falls, Man of Steel: Knight Falls, Man of Steel: Shadow of the Knight, Man of Steel: The Blackest Hour'' and last but not least, ''Man of Steel: The Darkness Within''. All of them weren't liked by fans for trying to hard to be darker and edgier sounding, which probably lead to the massive title change. Neither Snyder or Chris Terrio liked the Vs. Title mandate because they didn't view the movie in that way, and had to fight hard to get the Dawn of Justice subtitle.
