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* The scene and subsequent VillainousBreakdown where Vyce is blamed for the assassination of Duke Ronwey... and hanged.
* Denam finding out he wasn't Walister but Bakram (his ethnic enemy) from his father...who [[spoiler: was nearly tortured to death and dies in his arms.]]
* Picking the wrong options when Denam was talking to Catiua and [[spoiler: watching as she stabbed herself right in front of Denam.]]
* In the neutral path, [[spoiler: Gildas dies and is reanimated by Nybeth]]
** In general, how little Nybeth cares for his son Dievold and daughter Oelias.
*** [[spoiler: If you think that's bad, he's indirectly responsible for their deaths in one of the new scenarios for the PSP remake. Also, the man even tries to kill his other daughter Cressida once she's had enough of the family business.]]

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* The scene and subsequent VillainousBreakdown in the Chaos Route where Vyce is blamed for the assassination of Duke Ronwey... and hanged.
sentenced to death by hanging. He may have long since fallen from grace by that point, but his desperate pleading for Denam to save him while he's on the gallows still stings.
* Denam finding out he wasn't a Walister but actually a Bakram (his ethnic enemy) from his father...who [[spoiler: was nearly tortured to death and then dies in his arms.]]
arms, having been horribly tortured beforehand.
* Picking If you pick the wrong options when Denam was while talking to Catiua and [[spoiler: watching as she stabbed herself Catiua, it's entirely possible for her to [[DrivenToSuicide kill herself]] right in front of Denam.]]
Denam.
* In the neutral path, [[spoiler: Gildas dies and is reanimated by Nybeth]]
Nybeth.
** In general, how little Nybeth cares for his son Dievold and daughter Oelias.
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Oelias. If you think that's bad, he's indirectly responsible for their deaths in one of the new scenarios for the PSP remake. Also, the man even tries to kill his other daughter Cressida once she's had enough of the family business.]]



** If you somehow forgot to save Cistina (which was easy to do because saving Bayin to unlock the rescue quest (and even notice her distress) is kinda hard as it is), you never knew about her relations with Cerya and never met her again. But then, when Denam reunited with Olivya and Cerya, then she ''finally'' asked about Cistina. The answer from Cerya? She got sold into another person because no one rescued her and as a result, she's KilledOffScreen, horrifying Olivya ([[WhatASenselessWasteOfHumanLife they're down one sister needlessly]] because you FailedASpotCheck)
* Finding out the canonical ending in its Prequel-GaidenGame ''Knight of Lodis'' was [[spoiler:the ending where Rictor is possessed by Shaher and then killed by Alphonse, then when he faced Shaher, Eleanor grabbed onto Shaher's hands when he was dying and died with him...thus sending Alphonse back to Lodis to have his name changed to Lanselot Tartaros...and then raid Denam's home village.]] The ending where [[spoiler: Cybil' Eleanor's older sister, dies with Shaher and Alphonse and Eleanor are never heard from again after they elope]] was preferable.

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** If you somehow forgot to save Cistina (which was easy to do because saving Bayin to unlock the rescue quest (and even notice her distress) is kinda hard as it is), you never knew about her relations with Cerya and never met her again. But then, when Denam reunited with Olivya and Cerya, then she ''finally'' asked about Cistina. The answer from Cerya? She got sold into another person because no one rescued her and as a result, she's KilledOffScreen, horrifying Olivya ([[WhatASenselessWasteOfHumanLife they're down one sister needlessly]] because you FailedASpotCheck)
FailedASpotCheck).
* Finding out the canonical ending in its Prequel-GaidenGame ''Knight of Lodis'' was [[spoiler:the the ending where Rictor is possessed by Shaher and then killed by Alphonse, then when he faced Shaher, Eleanor grabbed onto Shaher's hands when he was dying and died with him...him, thus sending Alphonse back to Lodis to have his name changed to Lanselot Tartaros...and then raid Denam's home village.]] village. The ending where [[spoiler: Cybil' Cybil, Eleanor's older sister, dies with Shaher and Alphonse and Eleanor are never heard from again after they elope]] elope was preferable.



** It's not advisable that you take the chaos path in the PSP Version...if you grew attached to Ravness. She always refuses the Duke's plan no matter what. In the Chaos route, Vyce kills her right there after her Galgastani heritage is revealed.
* The very scene where you recruit Sherri is heartwrenching. [[spoiler:After being abandoned by Brantyn for her failure in Banhamoba Shrine, she's hiding in Balmamusa. Denam and Olyvia get into a shack to escape the heavy rain and find a broken and desperate Sherri waiting for them in there. Sherri then goes to assault Denam with a knife, perfectly willing to ''die'' in the process or even ''[[DeathSeeker after that]]''. Denam does ''nothing'', rather taunting her into being done with it, despite Olyvia trying to stop her. Seeing Olyvia scream for Sherri to not do it shows Denam's point: Sherri drops the knife and breaks down crying as soon as Olyvia says [[YouAreNotAlone she's not alone]], reminding her she still has her family.]]
* Some of the death quotes make you think MyGodWhatHaveIDone.
** Such as for example, someone wants revenge because you ''killed her husband'' in another battle. Then she says she's ''pregnant'' as you kill her. For this particular someone, if you think of sparing her in case you don't want to kill her, well get ready to be punched in the gut ''way'' in the future when you thought she'd be just another afterthought: [[spoiler:You fought her because you attempted to save Cistina, whom this pirate planned to sell to someone else since they are pirates. Therefore, not killing her means learning that Cistina was sold off and then murdered shortly after, because you chose not to save her when you could]]. The PSP version did give you the option to spare her by dropping her health to less than 10%, but if you land a critical hit even when trying this...

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** It's not advisable that you take the chaos path in the PSP Version...Version if you grew attached to Ravness. She always refuses the Duke's plan no matter what. In the Chaos route, Vyce kills her right there after her Galgastani heritage is revealed.
* The very scene where you recruit Sherri is heartwrenching. [[spoiler:After After being abandoned by Brantyn for her failure in Banhamoba Shrine, she's hiding in Balmamusa. Denam and Olyvia get into a shack to escape the heavy rain and find a broken and desperate Sherri waiting for them in there. Sherri then goes to assault Denam with a knife, perfectly willing to ''die'' in the process or even ''[[DeathSeeker after that]]''. Denam does ''nothing'', rather taunting her into being done with it, despite Olyvia trying to stop her. Seeing Olyvia scream for Sherri to not do it shows Denam's point: Sherri drops the knife and breaks down crying as soon as Olyvia says [[YouAreNotAlone she's not alone]], reminding her she still has her family.]]
family.
* Some of the death quotes make you think MyGodWhatHaveIDone.
** Such as for example, someone
MyGodWhatHaveIDone. One enemy wants revenge because you ''killed her husband'' in another battle. Then she says battle, and reveals that she's ''pregnant'' as you kill her. For this particular someone, if you think of sparing her in case you don't want to kill her, well get ready to be punched in the gut ''way'' in the future when you thought she'd be just another afterthought: [[spoiler:You You fought her because you attempted to save Cistina, whom this pirate planned to sell to someone else since they are pirates. Therefore, not killing her means learning that Cistina was sold off and then murdered shortly after, because you chose not to save her when you could]].could. The PSP version did give you the option to spare her by dropping her health to less than 10%, but if you land a critical hit even when trying this...



** On the Chaos route you face a bounty hunter, who upon dying reveals that he needed the money to save his daughter (which the

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** On the Chaos route you face a bounty hunter, who upon dying reveals that he needed the money to save his daughter (which the from illness.



* Lanselot Hamilton's music box that his wife gave him, [[spoiler:which the now wheel-chair bound knight tries to reach for after Lanselot Tartaros had completely broken his mind and body after months of torture]].
** If Catiua is present in your party, [[spoiler:she gets immediately upset and runs off in tears even after she picked up her resolve as the future Queen of Valeria. After all, she was present during Tartaros taunting Hamilton and reveled on how she's picking the Dark Knights' side because she thought Denam abandoned her. She could have used her newfound authority to stop the torture, but [[AccompliceByInaction she didn't lift a finger]], and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone now she gets the feeling that the Holy Knight's broken status was partially her fault.]]]]
** Not to mention what happened to Lanselot Tartaros in the GaidenGame, which takes before Tactics Ogre. [[spoiler: Losing the ones he cares for changed him from a WideEyedIdealist to the bitter cynic we see in Tactics Ogre.]]

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* Lanselot Hamilton's music box that his wife gave him, [[spoiler:which which the now wheel-chair bound knight tries to reach for after Lanselot Tartaros had completely broken his mind and body after months of torture]].
torture.
** If Catiua is present in your party, [[spoiler:she she gets immediately upset and runs off in tears even after she picked up her resolve as the future Queen of Valeria. After all, she was present during Tartaros Tartaros' taunting Hamilton and reveled on how she's picking of Hamilton, having impulsively joined the Dark Knights' side because she thought Knights to spite Denam abandoned for what she viewed as him abandoning her. She could have used her newfound authority to stop the torture, but [[AccompliceByInaction she didn't lift a finger]], and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone now she gets the feeling that the Holy Knight's broken status was partially her fault.]]]]
fault]].
** Not to mention what happened to Lanselot Tartaros in the GaidenGame, which takes before Tactics Ogre. [[spoiler: Losing the ones he cares for changed him from a WideEyedIdealist to the bitter cynic we see in Tactics Ogre.]]



* The second time you fight alongside [[spoiler:Azelstan, [[PlayerPunch and his not-quite-adoptive daughter is]] [[SurprisinglySuddenDeath killed from offscreen]]]].

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* The second time you fight alongside [[spoiler:Azelstan, Azelstan, [[PlayerPunch and his not-quite-adoptive daughter is]] [[SurprisinglySuddenDeath killed from offscreen]]]].
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* The scene and subsequent VillainousBreakdown where Vyce is blamed for the assassination of Duke Ronwey...and hanged.

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* The scene and subsequent VillainousBreakdown where Vyce is blamed for the assassination of Duke Ronwey... and hanged. hanged.

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* Some of the death quotes make you think MyGodWhatHaveIDone. Such as for example, someone wants revenge because you ''killed her husband'' in another battle. Then she says she's ''pregnant'' as you kill her. For this particular someone, if you think of sparing her in case you don't want to kill her, well get ready to be punched in the gut ''way'' in the future when you thought she'd be just another afterthought: [[spoiler:You fought her because you attempted to save Cistina, whom this pirate planned to sell to someone else since they are pirates. Therefore, not killing her means learning that Cistina was sold off and then murdered shortly after, because you chose not to save her when you could]].
** The PSP version has a wizard you fight in chapter two who wants to kill you because after all, you killed his twin brother.

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* Some of the death quotes make you think MyGodWhatHaveIDone. MyGodWhatHaveIDone.
**
Such as for example, someone wants revenge because you ''killed her husband'' in another battle. Then she says she's ''pregnant'' as you kill her. For this particular someone, if you think of sparing her in case you don't want to kill her, well get ready to be punched in the gut ''way'' in the future when you thought she'd be just another afterthought: [[spoiler:You fought her because you attempted to save Cistina, whom this pirate planned to sell to someone else since they are pirates. Therefore, not killing her means learning that Cistina was sold off and then murdered shortly after, because you chose not to save her when you could]].
could]]. The PSP version did give you the option to spare her by dropping her health to less than 10%, but if you land a critical hit even when trying this…
** The PSP Law version has a wizard you fight in chapter two who wants to kill you because after all, you killed his twin brother. brother in Chapter 1.
** On the Chaos route you face a bounty hunter, who upon dying reveals that he needed the money to save his daughter (which the
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** If Catiua is present in your party, [[spoiler:she gets immediately upset and runs off in tears even after she picked up her resolve as the future Queen of Valeria. After all, she was present during Tartaros taunting Hamilton and reveled on how she's picking the Dark Knights' side because she thought Denam abandoned her. She could have used her newfound authority to stop the torture, but [[AccompliceByInaction she didn't lift a finger]], and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone now she gets the feeling that the Holy Knight's broken status was partially her fault.]]]]
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** If you somehow forgot to save Cistina (which was easy to do because saving Bayin to unlock the rescue quest (and even notice her distress) is kinda hard as it is), you never knew about her relations with Cerya and never met her again. But then, when Denam reunited with Olivya and Cerya, then she ''finally'' asked about Cistina. The answer from Cerya? She got sold into another person because no one rescued her and as a result, she's KilledOffScreen, horrifying Olivya ([[WhatASenselessWasteOfHumanLife they're down one sister needlessly]] because you FailedASpotCheck)

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* Finding a broken and desperate Sherri in Balmamusa.



* The very scene where you recruit Sherri is heartwrenching. [[spoiler:After being abandoned by Brantyn, she's hiding in Balmamusa and gets informed that Denam is in town. She waits for him on a shack he and Olyvia enter to escape the heavy rain, and goes to assault him with a knife, perfectly willing to ''die'' in the process or even ''[[DeathSeeker after that]]''. Denam does ''nothing'', rather taunting her into being done with it, despite Olyvia trying to stop her. Seeing Olyvia scream for Sherri to not do it shows Denam's point: Sherri drops the knife and breaks down crying as soon as Olyvia says [[YouAreNotAlone she's not alone]], reminding her she still has her family.]]

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* The very scene where you recruit Sherri is heartwrenching. [[spoiler:After being abandoned by Brantyn, Brantyn for her failure in Banhamoba Shrine, she's hiding in Balmamusa and gets informed that Balmamusa. Denam is in town. She waits for him on a shack he and Olyvia enter get into a shack to escape the heavy rain, rain and find a broken and desperate Sherri waiting for them in there. Sherri then goes to assault him Denam with a knife, perfectly willing to ''die'' in the process or even ''[[DeathSeeker after that]]''. Denam does ''nothing'', rather taunting her into being done with it, despite Olyvia trying to stop her. Seeing Olyvia scream for Sherri to not do it shows Denam's point: Sherri drops the knife and breaks down crying as soon as Olyvia says [[YouAreNotAlone she's not alone]], reminding her she still has her family.]]

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* Accidentally letting Cerya die...right in front of Cistina.

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* Accidentally letting Cerya die... right in front of Cistina.



* Some of the death quotes make you think MyGodWhatHaveIDone. Such as for example, someone wants revenge because you ''killed her husband'' in another battle. Then she says she's ''pregnant'' as you kill her. For this particular someone, if you think of sparing her in case you don't want to kill her, well get ready to be punched in the gut ''way'' in the future when you thought she'd be just another afterthought: [[spoiler:You fought her because you attempted to save Cistina, whom this pirate planned to sell to someone else since they are pirates. Therefore, not killing her means learning that Cistina was sold off and then murdered shortly after, because you chose not to save her when you could.]]

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* The very scene where you recruit Sherri is heartwrenching. [[spoiler:After being abandoned by Brantyn, she's hiding in Balmamusa and gets informed that Denam is in town. She waits for him on a shack he and Olyvia enter to escape the heavy rain, and goes to assault him with a knife, perfectly willing to ''die'' in the process or even ''[[DeathSeeker after that]]''. Denam does ''nothing'', rather taunting her into being done with it, despite Olyvia trying to stop her. Seeing Olyvia scream for Sherri to not do it shows Denam's point: Sherri drops the knife and breaks down crying as soon as Olyvia says [[YouAreNotAlone she's not alone]], reminding her she still has her family.]]
* Some of the death quotes make you think MyGodWhatHaveIDone. Such as for example, someone wants revenge because you ''killed her husband'' in another battle. Then she says she's ''pregnant'' as you kill her. For this particular someone, if you think of sparing her in case you don't want to kill her, well get ready to be punched in the gut ''way'' in the future when you thought she'd be just another afterthought: [[spoiler:You fought her because you attempted to save Cistina, whom this pirate planned to sell to someone else since they are pirates. Therefore, not killing her means learning that Cistina was sold off and then murdered shortly after, because you chose not to save her when you could.]]could]].



* Lanselot Hamilton's music box that his wife gave him, [[spoiler: which the now wheel-chair bound knight tries to reach for after Lanselot Tartaros had completely broken his mind and body after months of torture]].
** Not to mention what happened to Lanselot Tartaros in the GaidenGame, which takes before Tactics Ogre. [[spoiler: Losing the ones he cares for changed him from a wild-eyed idealist to a bitter cynic we see in Tactics Ogre.]]

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* Lanselot Hamilton's music box that his wife gave him, [[spoiler: which [[spoiler:which the now wheel-chair bound knight tries to reach for after Lanselot Tartaros had completely broken his mind and body after months of torture]].
** Not to mention what happened to Lanselot Tartaros in the GaidenGame, which takes before Tactics Ogre. [[spoiler: Losing the ones he cares for changed him from a wild-eyed idealist WideEyedIdealist to a the bitter cynic we see in Tactics Ogre.]]



* Leonar's death in the Chaos route, even more so in the PSP remake because there is an extra dialogue if you brought Arycelle with you, which makes it hurt more because this would be the last time they speak and it's each berating the other for their choice of side. And right after he revealed Ronwey's plan to align with the Dark Knights and before dying, he declared that he still loved Arycelle before dying. Damn it.
* The second time you fight alongside [[spoiler:Azelstan, and his not-quite-adoptive daughter is [[SurprisinglySuddenDeath killed from offscreen]]]].

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* Leonar's death in the Chaos route, even more so in the PSP remake because there is an extra dialogue if you brought Arycelle with you, which makes it hurt more because this would be the last time they speak and it's each berating the other for their choice of side. And right after he revealed Ronwey's plan to align with the Dark Knights and before dying, he declared that [[DyingDeclarationOfLove he still loved Arycelle before dying.Arycelle]]. Damn it.
* The second time you fight alongside [[spoiler:Azelstan, [[PlayerPunch and his not-quite-adoptive daughter is is]] [[SurprisinglySuddenDeath killed from offscreen]]]].
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* Some of the death quotes make you think MyGodWhatHaveIDone. Such as for example, someone wants revenge because you ''killed her husband'' in another battle. Then she says she's ''pregnant'' as you kill her.

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* Some of the death quotes make you think MyGodWhatHaveIDone. Such as for example, someone wants revenge because you ''killed her husband'' in another battle. Then she says she's ''pregnant'' as you kill her. For this particular someone, if you think of sparing her in case you don't want to kill her, well get ready to be punched in the gut ''way'' in the future when you thought she'd be just another afterthought: [[spoiler:You fought her because you attempted to save Cistina, whom this pirate planned to sell to someone else since they are pirates. Therefore, not killing her means learning that Cistina was sold off and then murdered shortly after, because you chose not to save her when you could.]]
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** It's not advisable that you take the chaos path in the PSP Version...if you grew attached to Ravness. She always refuses the Duke's plan no matter what. IN the Chaos route, Vyce kills her right there after her Galgastani heritage is revealed.

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** It's not advisable that you take the chaos path in the PSP Version...if you grew attached to Ravness. She always refuses the Duke's plan no matter what. IN In the Chaos route, Vyce kills her right there after her Galgastani heritage is revealed.
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** Even if you manage to avert the latter by gaining the approval of the three clans, [[spoiler: Lodis is preparing to launch a full scale invasion of Valeria]].
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* The second time you fight alongside [[spoiler:Azelstan, and his not-quite-adoptive daughter is [[SurprisinglySuddenDeath killed from offscreen]]]].
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* Leonar's death in the Chaos route, even more so in the PSP remake because there is an extra dialogue if you brought Arycelle with you, which makes it hurt more because this would be the last time they speak and it's each the other for their choice of side. And right after he revealed Ronwey's plan to align with the Dark Knights and before dying, he declared that he still loved Arycelle before dying. Damn it.

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* Leonar's death in the Chaos route, even more so in the PSP remake because there is an extra dialogue if you brought Arycelle with you, which makes it hurt more because this would be the last time they speak and it's each berating the other for their choice of side. And right after he revealed Ronwey's plan to align with the Dark Knights and before dying, he declared that he still loved Arycelle before dying. Damn it.
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* Leonar's death in the Chaos route, even more so in the PSP remake because there is an extra dialogue if you brought Arycelle with you, which makes it hurt more because this would be the last time they speak and it's each the other for their choice of side. And right after he revealed Ronwey's plan to align with the Dark Knights and before dying, he declared that he still loved Arycelle before dying. Damn it.
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* The ending where Vyce is blamed for the assassination of Duke Ronwey...and hanged when he was just following orders.

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* The ending scene and subsequent VillainousBreakdown where Vyce is blamed for the assassination of Duke Ronwey...and hanged when he was just following orders. hanged.

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* There were a few parts of Tactics Ogre that were hard for this troper...
** The ending where Vyce is blamed for the assassination of Duke Ronwey...and hanged when he was just following orders.
** Denam finding out he wasn't Walister but Bakram (his ethnic enemy) from his father...who [[spoiler: was nearly tortured to death and dies in his arms.]]
** Picking the wrong options when Denam was talking to Catiua and [[spoiler: watching as she stabbed herself right in front of Denam.]]
** In the neutral path, [[spoiler: Gildas dies and is reanimated by Nybeth]]
*** In general, how little Nybeth cares for his son Dievold and daughter Oelias.
**** [[spoiler: If you think that’s bad, he’s indirectly responsible for their deaths in one of the new scenarios for the PSP remake. Also, the man even tries to kill his other daughter Cressida once she’s had enough of the family business.]]
** Accidentally letting Cerya die...right in front of Cistina.
*** Letting Folcurt die on the way of saving Cistina. She just tried acting like it's all right, but you KNOW she's pretty sad about the whole thing.
** Finding a broken and desperate Sherri in Balmamusa.
** Finding out the canonical ending in its Prequel-GaidenGame Knight of Lodis was [[spoiler: The ending where Rictor is possessed by Shaher and then killed by Alphonse, then when he faced Shaher, Eleanor grabbed onto Shaher's hands when he was dying and died with him...thus sending Alphonse back to Lodis to have his name changed to Lanselot Tartaros...and then raid Denam's home village]] This troper MUCH preferred the ending where [[spoiler: Cybil' Eleanor's older sister, dies with Shaher and Alphonse and Eleanor are never heard from again after they elope.]]
** Accidentally continuing the path where [[spoiler: Catiua commits suicide in front of Denam]] and then watching as my chaos frame was too low and [[spoiler: Denam, the new ruler of Valeria, is assassinated by a gunner.]]

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* There were a few parts of Tactics Ogre that were hard for this troper...
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The ending where Vyce is blamed for the assassination of Duke Ronwey...and hanged when he was just following orders.
** * Denam finding out he wasn't Walister but Bakram (his ethnic enemy) from his father...who [[spoiler: was nearly tortured to death and dies in his arms.]]
** * Picking the wrong options when Denam was talking to Catiua and [[spoiler: watching as she stabbed herself right in front of Denam.]]
** * In the neutral path, [[spoiler: Gildas dies and is reanimated by Nybeth]]
*** ** In general, how little Nybeth cares for his son Dievold and daughter Oelias.
**** *** [[spoiler: If you think that’s bad, he’s indirectly responsible for their deaths in one of the new scenarios for the PSP remake. Also, the man even tries to kill his other daughter Cressida once she’s had enough of the family business.]]
** * Accidentally letting Cerya die...right in front of Cistina.
*** ** Letting Folcurt die on the way of saving Cistina. She just tried acting like it's all right, but you KNOW she's pretty sad about the whole thing.
** * Finding a broken and desperate Sherri in Balmamusa.
** * Finding out the canonical ending in its Prequel-GaidenGame Knight ''Knight of Lodis Lodis'' was [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:the ending where Rictor is possessed by Shaher and then killed by Alphonse, then when he faced Shaher, Eleanor grabbed onto Shaher's hands when he was dying and died with him...thus sending Alphonse back to Lodis to have his name changed to Lanselot Tartaros...and then raid Denam's home village]] This troper MUCH preferred the village.]] The ending where [[spoiler: Cybil' Eleanor's older sister, dies with Shaher and Alphonse and Eleanor are never heard from again after they elope.]]
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elope]] was preferable.
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Accidentally continuing the path where [[spoiler: Catiua commits suicide in front of Denam]] and then watching as my chaos frame was too low and [[spoiler: Denam, the new ruler of Valeria, is assassinated by a gunner.]]



** Some of the death quotes make you think MyGodWhatHaveIDone. Such as for example, someone wants revenge because you ''killed her husband'' in another battle. Then she says she's ''pregnant'' as you kill her.
*** The PSP version has a wizard you fight in chapter two want to kill you because after all, you killed his twin brother.
**** The Warren Report also has info on quite a lot of the generic commanders that you kill. For example, the aforementioned wizard and brother were a philosopher and a professor.
* ''[[OgreBattle Tactics Ogre]]'' has Lanselot Hamilton's music box that his wife gave him, [[spoiler: which the now wheel-chair bound knight tries to reach for after Lanselot Tartaros had completely broken his mind and body after months of torture]].

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** * Some of the death quotes make you think MyGodWhatHaveIDone. Such as for example, someone wants revenge because you ''killed her husband'' in another battle. Then she says she's ''pregnant'' as you kill her.
*** ** The PSP version has a wizard you fight in chapter two want who wants to kill you because after all, you killed his twin brother.
**** *** The Warren Report also has info on quite a lot of the generic commanders that you kill. For example, the aforementioned wizard and brother were a philosopher and a professor.
* ''[[OgreBattle Tactics Ogre]]'' has Lanselot Hamilton's music box that his wife gave him, [[spoiler: which the now wheel-chair bound knight tries to reach for after Lanselot Tartaros had completely broken his mind and body after months of torture]].
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**** [[spoiler: If you think that’s bad, he’s indirectly responsible for their deaths in one of the new scenarios for the PSP remake. Also, the man even tries to kill his other daughter Cressida once she’s had enough of the family business. This vile act is more than enough to solidify his status as a CompleteMonster.]]

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**** [[spoiler: If you think that’s bad, he’s indirectly responsible for their deaths in one of the new scenarios for the PSP remake. Also, the man even tries to kill his other daughter Cressida once she’s had enough of the family business. This vile act is more than enough to solidify his status as a CompleteMonster.]]
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*** Letting Folcurt die on the way of saving Cistina. She just tried acting like it's all right, but you KNOW she's pretty sad about the whole thing.
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** The ending where Vice is blamed for the assassination of Count Ronway...and hanged when he was just following orders.
** Denim finding out he wasn't Walstanian but Bacrumese (his ethnic enemy) from his father...who [[spoiler: was nearly tortured to death and dies in his arms.]]
** Picking the wrong options when Denim was talking to Kachua and [[spoiler: watching as she stabbed herself right in front of Denim.]]
** In the neutral path, [[spoiler: Guildus dies and is reanimated by Nybbas]]
*** In general, how little Nybbas cares for his son Debordes and daughter Olias.

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** The ending where Vice Vyce is blamed for the assassination of Count Ronway...Duke Ronwey...and hanged when he was just following orders.
** Denim Denam finding out he wasn't Walstanian Walister but Bacrumese Bakram (his ethnic enemy) from his father...who [[spoiler: was nearly tortured to death and dies in his arms.]]
** Picking the wrong options when Denim Denam was talking to Kachua Catiua and [[spoiler: watching as she stabbed herself right in front of Denim.Denam.]]
** In the neutral path, [[spoiler: Guildus Gildas dies and is reanimated by Nybbas]]
Nybeth]]
*** In general, how little Nybbas Nybeth cares for his son Debordes Dievold and daughter Olias.Oelias.



** Accidentally letting Seleye die...right in front of Sisteena.
** Finding a broken and desperate Shelley in Baramus.
** Finding out the canonical ending in its Prequel-Gaiden Knight of Lodis was [[spoiler: The ending where Rictor is possessed by Shaher and then killed by Alphonse, then when he faced Shaher, Eleanor grabbed onto Shaher's hands when he was dying and died with him...thus sending Alphonse back to Lodis to have his name changed to Lans Tartare...and then raid Denim's home village]] This troper MUCH preferred the ending where [[spoiler: Cybil' Eleanor's older sister, dies with Shaher and Alphonse and Eleanor are never heard from again after they elope.]]
** Accidentally continuing the path where [[spoiler: Kachua commits suicide in front of Denim]] and then watching as my chaos frame was too low and [[spoiler: Denim, the new ruler of Valeria, is assassinated by a gunner.]]

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** Accidentally letting Seleye Cerya die...right in front of Sisteena.
Cistina.
** Finding a broken and desperate Shelley Sherri in Baramus.
Balmamusa.
** Finding out the canonical ending in its Prequel-Gaiden Prequel-GaidenGame Knight of Lodis was [[spoiler: The ending where Rictor is possessed by Shaher and then killed by Alphonse, then when he faced Shaher, Eleanor grabbed onto Shaher's hands when he was dying and died with him...thus sending Alphonse back to Lodis to have his name changed to Lans Tartare...Lanselot Tartaros...and then raid Denim's Denam's home village]] This troper MUCH preferred the ending where [[spoiler: Cybil' Eleanor's older sister, dies with Shaher and Alphonse and Eleanor are never heard from again after they elope.]]
** Accidentally continuing the path where [[spoiler: Kachua Catiua commits suicide in front of Denim]] Denam]] and then watching as my chaos frame was too low and [[spoiler: Denim, Denam, the new ruler of Valeria, is assassinated by a gunner.]]



*** The PSP version has a wizard you fight in chapter two want to kill you because after all, you killed his twin btother.

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*** The PSP version has a wizard you fight in chapter two want to kill you because after all, you killed his twin btother.brother.



* ''[[OgreBattle Tactics Ogre]]'' has Lans Hamilton's music box that his wife gave him, [[spoiler: which the now wheel-chair bound knight tries to reach for after Lans Tartare had completely broken his mind and body after months of torture]].
** Not to mention what happened to Lans Tartare in the gaiden game, which takes before Tactics Ogre. [[spoiler: Losing the ones he cares for changed him from a wild-eyed idealist to a bitter cynic we see in Tactics Ogre.]]
* Going into a certain path or failing to recruit a character generally has them ending up in a horrible fate in a cutescene. One example would be Ozma's, where she winds up in a vegetative state.

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* ''[[OgreBattle Tactics Ogre]]'' has Lans Lanselot Hamilton's music box that his wife gave him, [[spoiler: which the now wheel-chair bound knight tries to reach for after Lans Tartare Lanselot Tartaros had completely broken his mind and body after months of torture]].
** Not to mention what happened to Lans Tartare Lanselot Tartaros in the gaiden game, GaidenGame, which takes before Tactics Ogre. [[spoiler: Losing the ones he cares for changed him from a wild-eyed idealist to a bitter cynic we see in Tactics Ogre.]]
* Going into a certain path or failing to recruit a character generally has them ending up in a horrible fate in a cutescene.cutscene. One example would be Ozma's, where she winds up in a vegetative state.

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**** The Warren Report also has info on quite a lot of the generic commanders that you kill. For example, the aforementioned wizard and brother were a philosopher and a professor.




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* Going into a certain path or failing to recruit a character generally has them ending up in a horrible fate in a cutescene. One example would be Ozma's, where she winds up in a vegetative state.
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** It's not advisable that you take the chaos path in the PSP Version...if you grew attached to Ravness. She always refuses the Duke's plan no matter what. IN the Chaos route, Vyce kills her right there after her Galgastani heritage is revealed.
** Some of the death quotes make you think MyGodWhatHaveIDone. Such as for example, someone wants revenge because you ''killed her husband'' in another battle. Then she says she's ''pregnant'' as you kill her.
*** The PSP version has a wizard you fight in chapter two want to kill you because after all, you killed his twin btother.
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**** [[spoiler: If you think that’s bad, he’s indirectly responsible for their deaths in one of the new scenarios for the PSP remake. Also, the man even tries to kill his other daughter Cressida once she’s had enough of the family business. This vile act is more than enough to solidify his status as a CompleteMonster.]]
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* ''[[OgreBattle Tactics Ogre]]'' has Lans Hamilton's music box that his wife gave him, [[spoiler: which the now wheel-chair bound knight tries to reach for after Lans Tartare had completely broken his mind and body after months of torture]].
** Not to mention what happened to Lans Tartare in the gaiden game, which takes before Tactics Ogre. [[spoiler: Losing the ones he cares for changed him from a wild-eyed idealist to a bitter cynic we see in Tactics Ogre.]]

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