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*** Another possible reason for child Erik's response: given that he would've grown up alone during both the aftermath of the 1992 Rodney King case verdict and during a time Oakland was still known for having high crime rates, there's the FridgeHorror that Erik experienced and/or witnessed so much crime, beatings and police brutality, and/or death growing up that he became desensitized and it all became a normal occurrence for him.

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*** Another possible reason for child Erik's response: given that he would've grown up alone during both the aftermath of the 1992 Rodney King case verdict and during a time Oakland was still known for having high crime rates, there's the FridgeHorror that Erik experienced and/or witnessed so much crime, beatings and police brutality, and/or death growing up that he [[ConditionedToAcceptHorror became desensitized and it all became a normal occurrence for him.]]
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*** Alternatively, N'Jobu cried because he's considered an UnPerson on his own country. But it's either because his own people shunned him for what he believe was the right thing to do, or adding to above he only blames himself for it.

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*** Alternatively, N'Jobu cried because he's considered an UnPerson on his own country. But it's either because his own people shunned him for what he believe believed was the right thing to do, or adding to above he only blames himself for it.
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** It gets even HarsherInHindsight when it was Chadwick Boseman who ended up dying instead in real life, which left Michael B.Jordan heartbroken. So basically, Erik lost T'Challa.

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** It gets even HarsherInHindsight when it was Chadwick Boseman who ended up dying instead in real life, which left Michael B. Jordan heartbroken. So basically, Erik lost T'Challa.
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*** Made worse by the fact that it can be interpreted that W'Kabi was so determined to see Erik's crusade against the world through and was willing to risk defeat and potential execution if he was defeated because he truly albeit misguidedly believed his children will benefit. He was willing to even hurt and potentially kill his wife for what he saw as the best for his children because he cared for them that much. Meanwhile, Okoye is opposing her husband ''and'' the father of her children because she was fighting both for Wakanda AND her children, risking everything, refusing to surrender even in the face of seeming defeat and potential death because she could not bear to think how they would adapt in the world that would have been made had Erik emerged victorius. It makes her words that she would kill him for Wakanda, already quite heartrending, even more tragic when you realized just as W'Kabi would go as far as risking his wife's life for their children, Okoye would kill him as well.... But it's not just for Wakanda, it's also for the safety of their children and ensuring their futures would not be corrupted.
*** It can also be said that W'Kabi's clear anguish at seeing his wife ready to fight him because he was fearing he would die resented by his family. And it's clear that Okoye wasn't just visibly shaken and heartbroken about the possibility that she would have to kill her husband. She is clearly feeling and dreading the possibility that she would have to kill W'Kabi and thus deprive her children of their father. Had this happened, she may well be estranged from her children and their relationship would never be the same as typical for any family in such situations.... Yet she is willing to risk bearing such a consequence because it would be better that they distance themself from her rather than suffer under Erik's reign.
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* Erik Killmonger has been praised by critics for being a genuinely sympathetic and compelling villain, and rightly so. Knowing his backstory, we know that Erik became who he is today because of growing up in poverty alone and knowing that his father was murdered by his own kin. As extreme as his methods are, he genuinely wants to free the oppressed African people around the world from being abused and lead Wakanda to a more prosperous future where they no longer have to hide in fear of the outside world. Or at least that is what he paints himself as, since his words and actions later in the movie cast some doubt as to how truly noble his intentions are.

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* Erik Killmonger has been praised by critics for being a [[JerkassWoobie genuinely sympathetic sympathetic]] [[TragicVillain and compelling villain, villain]], and rightly so. Knowing his backstory, we know that Erik became who he is today because of growing up in poverty alone and knowing that his father was murdered by his own kin. As extreme as his methods are, he genuinely wants to free the oppressed African people around the world from being abused and lead Wakanda to a more prosperous future where they no longer have to hide in fear of the outside world. Or at least that is what he paints himself as, since his words and actions later in the movie cast some doubt as to how truly noble his intentions are.
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-->-- '''Erik "Killmonger" Stevens'''

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''Black Panther'' is a somber tragedy spanning two generations of Wakandan royalty. Heart-wrenching moments are unavoidable.

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''Black Panther'' ''Film/{{Black Panther|2018}}'' is a somber tragedy spanning two generations of Wakandan royalty. [[TearJerker Heart-wrenching moments moments]] are unavoidable.

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** It is clear that with the exception of W'Kabi, absolutely no-one in that scene is happy with what has occured. T'Challa's apparent death might have been legal by the rules of ritual combat, but his defeat is not at all what the Wakandan people wanted and it is clear that all of them (again with the exception of W'Kabi) want desperately to intervene but cannot. The Mining Tribe Elder looks like she's about to cry, the Merchant Tribe Elder sits stony-faced, the River Tribe Elder closes his eyes and looks away and even Okoye and the Dora Milaje look close to tears. When Killmonger wins, the priestess who anoints him visibly shakes as she takes out the necklace that symbolises kingship and puts it around his neck and the ceremonial salute by the elders and Dora Milaje is conducted with great reluctance. All of them know exactly what kind of man has just been lost and what kind of man has taken his place, but are trapped by their own traditions.

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** When Okoye tells W'Kabi she won't hesitate to kill him for Wakanda's sake, he soberly looks around at the battlefield, as though [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone wondering to himself]] if ''this'' is what he intended when he sided with Erik: Wakandans fighting one another as though they were mortal enemies.
** The deleted scene of Okoye and W'Kabi talking about the future reveals that they were considering starting a family together, something that's almost certainly not going to happen now. In the scene itself, it's clear that Okoye and W'Kabi are thinking of their future children when it comes to the decisions they make, with Okoye not wanting them to grow up as bloodthirsty imperialists, while W'Kabi does not want them grow up hiding away.

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** When Okoye tells W'Kabi is visibly devastated to see that his wife would turn against him and side with T'Challa and when she won't hesitate to tells him she would kill him for Wakanda's sake, he soberly looks around at the battlefield, as though [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone wondering to himself]] if ''this'' is what he intended when he sided with Erik: Wakandans fighting one another as though they were mortal enemies.
*** Okoye herself is far from being calm here. She was choosing her duty as the leader of the Dora Milaje over her love for her husband, but she makes it clear it hurts her just as much as it hurts W'Kabi to have to fight and potentially kill him. Even if she hides it, it's easy to tell from the dismay and sadness on her face that she doesn't really want to fight, much less kill, him despite being undoubtedly able to easily beat him being she was Wakanda's best warrior. You could easily tell when she states that she would kill him without question for Wakanda that while she may be able to bring herself to do it if neccessary, it would certainly hurt her a lot. She sounds on the verge of tears, making it clear she wasn't just demanding him to surrender. She was begging him to stop this before she would have to kill him.
** The deleted scene of Okoye and W'Kabi talking about the future reveals that they were considering starting had children who they obviously loved a family together, something that's almost certainly not going to happen now. In the scene itself, lot and it's quite likely that their children loved them too. It's clear that Okoye and W'Kabi are thinking of how their future children when it comes would grow and adapt to the decisions they make, with Okoye not wanting them to grow up as bloodthirsty imperialists, new world Killmonger would bring and while W'Kabi does not want supports Killmonger partly because he wants them grow to be able to experience the wider world and be more happy, Okoye, who can see more than her husband does, obviously knows that what W'Kabi believes would be better for them is in fact wrong. Even if their children would be able to see the world fully, it would NOT be worth it if they grew up hiding away.as warmonger imperialists, which would obviously corrupt her children. Her pained tone when saying this and her clear disapproval of her husbands's views when it comes to them makes it clear she wasn't just thinking about her nation. She was also thinking about the future of her children and it obviously terrifies her about what would happen to her children if Killmonger was allowed to continue to rule.
*** Overall, they were both clearly good parents who wanted the best for their children, but their difference in opinion over what would be better for them clearly contributed to their split. The fact that W'Kabi will be imprisoned and leaving the children with only their mother is quite sad, especially as even if it was misguided, he genuinely wanted the best for his child.
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* Practically every scene in the ancestral plane has something emotionally heavy to it. T'Challa sees his father and breaks down the first time, and the second time, he is enraged to see him after learning that T'Chaka hid Killmonger's existence from him. Then there is Killmonger in the ancestral plane, seeing himself as a child discovering his father's body and holding him while crying. [[NotSoDifferent In the same exact way T'Challa held T'Chaka's body]] in ''Civil War''.

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* Practically every scene in the ancestral plane has something emotionally heavy to it. T'Challa sees his father and breaks down the first time, and the second time, he is enraged to see him after learning that T'Chaka hid Killmonger's existence from him. Then there is Killmonger in the ancestral plane, seeing himself as a child discovering his father's body and holding him while crying. [[NotSoDifferent [[MirrorCharacter In the same exact way T'Challa held T'Chaka's body]] in ''Civil War''.
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** It gets even HarsherInHindsight when it was Chadwick Boseman who ended up dying instead in real life, which left Michael B.Jordan heartbroken. So basically, Killmonger lost T'Challa.

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** It gets even HarsherInHindsight when it was Chadwick Boseman who ended up dying instead in real life, which left Michael B.Jordan heartbroken. So basically, Killmonger Erik lost T'Challa.
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** In a more heartbreaking meta twist, it is Chadwick Boseman who ended up dying instead in real life, which left Michael B.Jordan heartbroken. So basically, Killmonger lost T'Challa.

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** In a more heartbreaking meta twist, It gets even HarsherInHindsight when it is was Chadwick Boseman who ended up dying instead in real life, which left Michael B.Jordan heartbroken. So basically, Killmonger lost T'Challa.
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** In a more heartbreaking meta twist, it is Chadwick Boseman who ended up dying instead in real life, which left Michael B.Jordan heartbroken. So basically, Killmonger lost T'Challa.
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*** Another possible reason for child Erik's response: given that he would've grown up alone both during the aftermath of the 1992 Rodney King case verdict and during a time Oakland was still known for having high crime rates, there's the FridgeHorror that Erik experienced and/or witnessed so much crime, beatings and police brutality, and/or death growing up that he became desensitized and it all became a normal occurrence for him.

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*** Another possible reason for child Erik's response: given that he would've grown up alone both during both the aftermath of the 1992 Rodney King case verdict and during a time Oakland was still known for having high crime rates, there's the FridgeHorror that Erik experienced and/or witnessed so much crime, beatings and police brutality, and/or death growing up that he became desensitized and it all became a normal occurrence for him.
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* Everyone's reaction to T'Challa's supposed death. T'Challa was brutally beaten to an inch of his life by Erik. When Zuri tries to stop the fight, he was killed instead. A furious T'Challa tries to fight back, but the wounds suffered and the blind rage make him an easy target for Erik, who then throws T'Challa off the waterfall while Ramonda, Shuri, Nakia and the rest of Dora Milaje could only look on in horror. [[OutlivingOnesOffspring Ramonda]] has to be ''physically dragged away'' by Shuri and Nakia as the Wakandan Council reluctantly makes Erik the new king.

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* Everyone's reaction to T'Challa's supposed death. T'Challa was brutally beaten to an inch of his life by Erik. When Zuri tries to stop the fight, he was killed instead. A furious T'Challa tries to fight back, but the wounds suffered and the blind rage make him an easy target for Erik, who then throws T'Challa off the waterfall while Ramonda, Shuri, Nakia and the rest of the Dora Milaje could only look on in horror. [[OutlivingOnesOffspring Ramonda]] has to be ''physically dragged away'' by Shuri and Nakia as the Wakandan Council reluctantly makes Erik the new king.
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* In the scene that reveals it all, T'Challa goes to Zuri and demands answers. Zuri replies that he can't say, that he promised the king (T'Chaka) that he wouldn't tell anyone. T'Challa has to '''bellow'' "I AM YOUR KING NOW!" to get him to open up. Not as - as is so often a case - a petulant tantrum or evil bit of bluster, but as what is evidently almost a ''plea'' for ''someone'' to please tell him what on earth is going on.

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* In the scene that reveals it all, T'Challa goes to Zuri and demands answers. Zuri replies that he can't say, that he promised the king (T'Chaka) that he wouldn't tell anyone. T'Challa has to '''bellow'' '''bellow''' "I AM YOUR KING NOW!" to get him to open up. Not as - as is so often a case - a petulant tantrum or evil bit of bluster, but as what is evidently almost a ''plea'' for ''someone'' to please tell him what on earth is going on.
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** Not necessarily, many plants release their seeds when they are burnt. The Heart Shaped herbs have a good chance of growing back in the same soil. She ashes from the previous herbs will fertilize the land so the herbs could be revived.
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**Not necessarily, many plants release their seeds when they are burnt. The Heart Shaped herbs have a good chance of growing back in the same soil. She ashes from the previous herbs will fertilize the land so the herbs could be revived.

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