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* PervertDad: Hoo boy. While Vector never performed any physically sexual abuse, sexuality was a constant topic in subtle and not-so-subtle ways. Persephone’s (supposed) lack of good looks was commented on fairly often while Andromeda’s long legs, ample chest, angelic face, sparkling blue eyes, and long golden hair was often described in minute detail. Not to mention that Victor’s wandering eye rarely failed him when Andromeda was dressed provocatively and usually preceded him giving the middle daughter some obscenely expensive and gaudy gift. Andromeda eventually catches on and, in an attempt to distance herself, moves to Hawaii and (later) the West Coast.Of course thanks to this Persephone’s [[OedipusComplex Electra complex]] is so pronounced it is the source of many of Eris’ insults and jokes. Even worse, Persephone has a deep set jealousy and hatred of Andromeda which doesn’t let up after she leaves for several years.
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* PervertDad: Hoo boy. While Vector never performed any physically sexual abuse, sexuality was a constant topic in subtle and not-so-subtle ways. Persephone’s (supposed) lack of good looks was commented on fairly often while Andromeda’s long legs, ample chest, angelic face, sparkling blue eyes, and long golden hair was often described in minute detail. Not to mention that Victor’s wandering eye rarely failed him when Andromeda was dressed provocatively and usually preceded him giving the middle daughter some obscenely expensive and gaudy gift. Andromeda eventually catches on and, in an attempt to distance herself, moves to Hawaii and (later) the West Coast.Of course thanks to this Persephone’s [[OedipusComplex Electra complex]] complex is so pronounced it is the source of many of Eris’ insults and jokes. Even worse, Persephone has a deep set jealousy and hatred of Andromeda which doesn’t let up after she leaves for several years.
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* ParentWithNewParamour: Victor with Ann and Ellen with Martine.
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* ParentWithNewParamour: Victor with Ann and Ellen with Martine.Anne.
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* SiblingRivalry: Subverted with Persephone and Eris. It’s clear that they hate each other after years of a deep set rivalry but once they are forced to work together they are able to put it aside (mostly).
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* SiblingRivalry: Subverted with Persephone and Eris. It’s clear that they hate each other after years of a deep set rivalry but once they are forced to work together they are able to put it aside (mostly). Played straight with Persephone and Andromeda (at first).
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* PervertDad: Hoo boy. While Vector never performed any physically sexual abuse, sexuality was a constant topic in subtle and not-so-subtle ways. Persephone’s (supposed) lack of good looks was commented on fairly often while Andromeda’s long legs, ample chest, angelic face, sparkling blue eyes, and long golden hair was often described in minute detail. Not to mention that Victor’s wandering eye rarely failed him when Andromeda was dressed provocatively and usually preceded him giving the middle daughter some obscenely expensive and gaudy gift. Andromeda eventually catches on and, in an attempt to distance herself, moves to Hawaii and (later) the West Coast.Of course, thanks, in part, to this Persephone’s [[OedipusComplex Electra complex]] is so pronounced when it comes to Victor it is the source of many of Eris’ insults and jokes. Even worse, Persephone has a deep set jealousy and hatred of Andromeda which doesn’t let up after she leaves for several years.
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* PervertDad: Hoo boy. While Vector never performed any physically sexual abuse, sexuality was a constant topic in subtle and not-so-subtle ways. Persephone’s (supposed) lack of good looks was commented on fairly often while Andromeda’s long legs, ample chest, angelic face, sparkling blue eyes, and long golden hair was often described in minute detail. Not to mention that Victor’s wandering eye rarely failed him when Andromeda was dressed provocatively and usually preceded him giving the middle daughter some obscenely expensive and gaudy gift. Andromeda eventually catches on and, in an attempt to distance herself, moves to Hawaii and (later) the West Coast.Of course, thanks, in part, course thanks to this Persephone’s [[OedipusComplex Electra complex]] is so pronounced when it comes to Victor it is the source of many of Eris’ insults and jokes. Even worse, Persephone has a deep set jealousy and hatred of Andromeda which doesn’t let up after she leaves for several years.
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* IncestSubtext: Persephone thinks of her father in explicitly romantic terms and can get flirty and touchy with Andromeda. Eris often points this out with her typical [[DeadpanSnarker Deadpan Snarker]] way.
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* IncestSubtext: Persephone thinks of her father in explicitly seemingly romantic terms and can get flirty and touchy with Andromeda. Eris often points this out with her typical [[DeadpanSnarker Deadpan Snarker]] way.
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!!''New Lyonesse'' provides examples of:
* CityNoir:
* SunshineNoir:
* WretchedHive:
* IndustrialGhetto:
* NotSoSafeHarbor:
* InherentInTheSystem:
* GrayRainOfDepression:
* TheCynic:
* UrbanSegregation:
* WrongSideOfTheTracks:
* CrapsaccharineWorld:
* DirtyCop:
* FemmeFatale:
* LadyInRed:
* WomanInBlack:
* BandOfBrothels:
* StepfordSuburbia:
* FairFolk:
* BadCopIncompetentCop:
* ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections:
* ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney:
* GreyAndGrayMorality:
* BlackAndGreyMorality:
!!''The Benson Sisters'' provides examples of:
* AbusiveParents: Victor, obviousy.
* BigBrotherBully: Growing up, Persephone was most definitely this to Andromeda and to a lesser extent Eris. Andromeda, in particular, is still completely terrified of Persephone who has sadistic delight in insulting and tormenting her.
* CainAndAbelAndSeth: Andromeda is the Seth to Persephone and Eris’ Cain and Abel.
* CorruptCorporateExecutive: Victor and Lai. Persephone and Eris are definitely headed in that direction.
* DeadpanSnarker: Eris holds this title but Persephone is a close #2.
* DotingParent: Horribly subverted with Victor and Persephone. In public, Persephone was incredibly praised and shown off to any who would listen. From afar, he was, in many ways, a great and caring father, spending a lot of time with Persephone but not getting too involved with her personal life.In private, Persephone was subtly put down, never gifted anything, and “encouraged” to be abusive to friends, romantic interests, and even the rest of her family. This disconnect probably didn’t help her psyche any…
* FreudianExcuse: The Benson sisters. Big time.
* GenerationXerox: Persephone is this to Victor in many ways. Like Victor, she was forced to work tirelessly and go to college full time because of the lack of financial support. She attended her father’s alma mater where she joined the same influential honor’s society her father had. Most glaringly, she became lovers with a ruthless beautiful sociopath of a girl (Valerie) while also dating a seemingly not too bright very attractive wealthy girlfriend (Yolanda) whom she ended up becoming engaged to. This is exactly what Victor did in college with Lai and Ellen.
* IncestSubtext: Persephone thinks of her father in explicitly romantic terms and can get flirty and touchy with Andromeda. Eris often points this out with her typical [[DeadpanSnarker Deadpan Snarker]] way.
* JacobAndEsau: Persephone takes heavily after Victor in looks and attitude. Andromeda is extremely similar to Ellen. Subverted with Eris who has aspects from both parents.
* JealousParent: Ellen was this with Persephone who often took much of Victor’s time and attention. It only got worse when Victor secretly encouraged Persephone to be nasty to the meek, dependent, and submissive Ellen.
* LikeFatherLikeSon: Persephone (and to a lesser extent Eris).
* MiddleChildSyndrome: Poor Andromeda. She may have been the prettiest but she wasn’t the Heir (like Persephone) and she didn’t wow anybody with her prodigal math and computer skills (like Eris). She eventually falls into more of Victor’s manipulations while growing up only to wise up and leave the whole messed up family best she can. (She comes back.)
* ParentalFavoritism: This was Victor’s absolute favorite tool he used to manipulate his daughters. He would shower Andromeda with gifts and praise over her looks and Eris with praise over her intelligence and creativity just to make Persephone howl for attention. Meanwhile it wasn’t lost on Andromeda and Eris just how much time Victor spent with Persephone or how often he talked about making her the “heir to the kingdom.”
* ParentWithNewParamour: Victor with Ann and Ellen with Martine.
* PervertDad: Hoo boy. While Vector never performed any physically sexual abuse, sexuality was a constant topic in subtle and not-so-subtle ways. Persephone’s (supposed) lack of good looks was commented on fairly often while Andromeda’s long legs, ample chest, angelic face, sparkling blue eyes, and long golden hair was often described in minute detail. Not to mention that Victor’s wandering eye rarely failed him when Andromeda was dressed provocatively and usually preceded him giving the middle daughter some obscenely expensive and gaudy gift. Andromeda eventually catches on and, in an attempt to distance herself, moves to Hawaii and (later) the West Coast.Of course, thanks, in part, to this Persephone’s [[OedipusComplex Electra complex]] is so pronounced when it comes to Victor it is the source of many of Eris’ insults and jokes. Even worse, Persephone has a deep set jealousy and hatred of Andromeda which doesn’t let up after she leaves for several years.
* PushoverParents: Ellen was usually too meek to do any punishing or even do anything in the face of Persephone's abuse.
* SiblingRivalry: Subverted with Persephone and Eris. It’s clear that they hate each other after years of a deep set rivalry but once they are forced to work together they are able to put it aside (mostly).
* SiblingTeam: The Benson Sisters.
* SlidingScaleOfParentShamingInFiction: Victor is firmly on Type IV of this scale (no surprise).
* SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome: Andromeda has this to Persephone and Eris, especially after she loses her job and is blacklisted from the West Coast modeling scene.
* TheBeautifulElite: The Bensons are all gorgeous and the cream of New Lyonesse society.
* TheUnFavorite: Ironically, all three sisters were quite brazenly implied by Victor to be this. Subsequently, all three are still carrying the scars.
* WellDoneDadGuy: Persephone.
* WhiteSheep: When Eris was seventeen she got tied in with radical anarchists to destroy her father’s company, the Masoch Group. In the end, she turned on her allies (once it was clear they had been hired by one of Victor’s rivals and had been manipulating her) and confessed everything. Four years later, Victor made her Chief Technology Officer and Vice Charwoman of the Board of the Masoch Group.
* CityNoir:
* SunshineNoir:
* WretchedHive:
* IndustrialGhetto:
* NotSoSafeHarbor:
* InherentInTheSystem:
* GrayRainOfDepression:
* TheCynic:
* UrbanSegregation:
* WrongSideOfTheTracks:
* CrapsaccharineWorld:
* DirtyCop:
* FemmeFatale:
* LadyInRed:
* WomanInBlack:
* BandOfBrothels:
* StepfordSuburbia:
* FairFolk:
* BadCopIncompetentCop:
* ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections:
* ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney:
* GreyAndGrayMorality:
* BlackAndGreyMorality:
!!''The Benson Sisters'' provides examples of:
* AbusiveParents: Victor, obviousy.
* BigBrotherBully: Growing up, Persephone was most definitely this to Andromeda and to a lesser extent Eris. Andromeda, in particular, is still completely terrified of Persephone who has sadistic delight in insulting and tormenting her.
* CainAndAbelAndSeth: Andromeda is the Seth to Persephone and Eris’ Cain and Abel.
* CorruptCorporateExecutive: Victor and Lai. Persephone and Eris are definitely headed in that direction.
* DeadpanSnarker: Eris holds this title but Persephone is a close #2.
* DotingParent: Horribly subverted with Victor and Persephone. In public, Persephone was incredibly praised and shown off to any who would listen. From afar, he was, in many ways, a great and caring father, spending a lot of time with Persephone but not getting too involved with her personal life.In private, Persephone was subtly put down, never gifted anything, and “encouraged” to be abusive to friends, romantic interests, and even the rest of her family. This disconnect probably didn’t help her psyche any…
* FreudianExcuse: The Benson sisters. Big time.
* GenerationXerox: Persephone is this to Victor in many ways. Like Victor, she was forced to work tirelessly and go to college full time because of the lack of financial support. She attended her father’s alma mater where she joined the same influential honor’s society her father had. Most glaringly, she became lovers with a ruthless beautiful sociopath of a girl (Valerie) while also dating a seemingly not too bright very attractive wealthy girlfriend (Yolanda) whom she ended up becoming engaged to. This is exactly what Victor did in college with Lai and Ellen.
* IncestSubtext: Persephone thinks of her father in explicitly romantic terms and can get flirty and touchy with Andromeda. Eris often points this out with her typical [[DeadpanSnarker Deadpan Snarker]] way.
* JacobAndEsau: Persephone takes heavily after Victor in looks and attitude. Andromeda is extremely similar to Ellen. Subverted with Eris who has aspects from both parents.
* JealousParent: Ellen was this with Persephone who often took much of Victor’s time and attention. It only got worse when Victor secretly encouraged Persephone to be nasty to the meek, dependent, and submissive Ellen.
* LikeFatherLikeSon: Persephone (and to a lesser extent Eris).
* MiddleChildSyndrome: Poor Andromeda. She may have been the prettiest but she wasn’t the Heir (like Persephone) and she didn’t wow anybody with her prodigal math and computer skills (like Eris). She eventually falls into more of Victor’s manipulations while growing up only to wise up and leave the whole messed up family best she can. (She comes back.)
* ParentalFavoritism: This was Victor’s absolute favorite tool he used to manipulate his daughters. He would shower Andromeda with gifts and praise over her looks and Eris with praise over her intelligence and creativity just to make Persephone howl for attention. Meanwhile it wasn’t lost on Andromeda and Eris just how much time Victor spent with Persephone or how often he talked about making her the “heir to the kingdom.”
* ParentWithNewParamour: Victor with Ann and Ellen with Martine.
* PervertDad: Hoo boy. While Vector never performed any physically sexual abuse, sexuality was a constant topic in subtle and not-so-subtle ways. Persephone’s (supposed) lack of good looks was commented on fairly often while Andromeda’s long legs, ample chest, angelic face, sparkling blue eyes, and long golden hair was often described in minute detail. Not to mention that Victor’s wandering eye rarely failed him when Andromeda was dressed provocatively and usually preceded him giving the middle daughter some obscenely expensive and gaudy gift. Andromeda eventually catches on and, in an attempt to distance herself, moves to Hawaii and (later) the West Coast.Of course, thanks, in part, to this Persephone’s [[OedipusComplex Electra complex]] is so pronounced when it comes to Victor it is the source of many of Eris’ insults and jokes. Even worse, Persephone has a deep set jealousy and hatred of Andromeda which doesn’t let up after she leaves for several years.
* PushoverParents: Ellen was usually too meek to do any punishing or even do anything in the face of Persephone's abuse.
* SiblingRivalry: Subverted with Persephone and Eris. It’s clear that they hate each other after years of a deep set rivalry but once they are forced to work together they are able to put it aside (mostly).
* SiblingTeam: The Benson Sisters.
* SlidingScaleOfParentShamingInFiction: Victor is firmly on Type IV of this scale (no surprise).
* SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome: Andromeda has this to Persephone and Eris, especially after she loses her job and is blacklisted from the West Coast modeling scene.
* TheBeautifulElite: The Bensons are all gorgeous and the cream of New Lyonesse society.
* TheUnFavorite: Ironically, all three sisters were quite brazenly implied by Victor to be this. Subsequently, all three are still carrying the scars.
* WellDoneDadGuy: Persephone.
* WhiteSheep: When Eris was seventeen she got tied in with radical anarchists to destroy her father’s company, the Masoch Group. In the end, she turned on her allies (once it was clear they had been hired by one of Victor’s rivals and had been manipulating her) and confessed everything. Four years later, Victor made her Chief Technology Officer and Vice Charwoman of the Board of the Masoch Group.
