Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Recap / TheFlash2014S3E21CauseAndEffect

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* RetGone: Discussed. Barry threatens to kill himself, which would eliminate the chain of events that create Savitar and start this whole mess. Time Remnant Barry counters cause and effect's a tricky thing. He reminds Barry that Eddie Thawne tried this two Seasons ago to stop the Reverse-Flash, but that didn't keep Eobard down for long, did it? So, there's no guarantee Barry trying this will permanently stop Savitar either.

to:

* RetGone: Discussed. Barry threatens to kill himself, which would eliminate the chain of events that create Savitar and start this whole mess. Time Remnant Barry counters cause and effect's a tricky thing. He reminds Barry that Eddie Thawne tried this exact move two Seasons ago to stop the Reverse-Flash, but that ultimately didn't keep Eobard down for long, did it? So, there's no guarantee Barry trying this will permanently stop Savitar Savitar's emergence either.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BondVillainStupidity: Zigzagged with Savitar when he monologues to Barry in the prologue. He reveals his backstory and the catalysts for becoming Savitar (the death of Iris). But he also carefully withholds any details about the second catalyst for his transformation to ensure Barry can't do anything to stop him (and could also be justified as they're in a time loop).

to:

* BondVillainStupidity: Zigzagged with Savitar when he monologues to Barry in the prologue. He reveals his backstory and the catalysts for becoming Savitar (the death of Iris). But he also carefully withholds any details about the second catalyst for his transformation to ensure Barry can't do anything to stop him (and could also be justified as they're in a time loop).him.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* BondVillainStupidity: Zigzagged with Savitar when he monologues to Barry in the prologue. He reveals his backstory and the catalysts for becoming Savitar (the death of Iris). But he also carefully withholds any details about the second catalyst for his transformation to ensure Barry can't do anything to stop him (and could also be justified as they're in a time loop).

Added: 228

Removed: 228

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* HonorBeforeReason: Barry, Cisco, and Julian just let Killer Frost waltz out of S.T.A.R. Labs and go back to Savitar instead of putting her in the Pipeline. It's clear they want her to come back to Team Flash of her own desire.



* HonorBeforeReason: Barry, Cisco, and Julian just let Killer Frost waltz out of S.T.A.R. Labs and go back to Savitar instead of putting her in the Pipeline. It's clear they want her to come back to Team Flash of her own desire.

Added: 124

Changed: 35

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ExactWords: Cisco realizes the message from the future the Legends discovered in the ''Waverider'' was this. The message warned not to try Barry Allen. That message ''was'' technically true; it just never specified ''which'' Barry Allen.

to:

* ExactWords: Cisco realizes the message from the future the Legends discovered in the ''Waverider'' was this. The message warned not to try trust Barry Allen. That message It's revealed the warning ''was'' technically true; it just never specified ''which'' Barry Allen.


Added DiffLines:

* HypocriticalHumor: Meta examples. Cisco bashes TV spinoffs, yet the show he's on ''is'' after all a spinoff of ''Arrow''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ExactWords: The message from the future the Legends discover in the ''Waverider''

to:

* ExactWords: The Cisco realizes the message from the future the Legends discover discovered in the ''Waverider'' was this. The message warned not to try Barry Allen. That message ''was'' technically true; it just never specified ''which'' Barry Allen.



* RetGone: Discussed. Barry threatens to kill himself in order to stop Savitar from every coming to be. Time Remnant Barry counters cause and effect's a tricky thing. He reminds Barry that Eddie Thawne tried this two Seasons ago to stop the Reverse-Flash; didn't keep Eobard down for long, did it? So, there's no guarantee Barry trying this will permanently stop Savitar either.

to:

* RetGone: Discussed. Barry threatens to kill himself in order to stop himself, which would eliminate the chain of events that create Savitar from every coming to be.and start this whole mess. Time Remnant Barry counters cause and effect's a tricky thing. He reminds Barry that Eddie Thawne tried this two Seasons ago to stop the Reverse-Flash; Reverse-Flash, but that didn't keep Eobard down for long, did it? So, there's no guarantee Barry trying this will permanently stop Savitar either.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ExactWords: The message from the future the Legends discover in the ''Waverider''


Added DiffLines:

* RetGone: Discussed. Barry threatens to kill himself in order to stop Savitar from every coming to be. Time Remnant Barry counters cause and effect's a tricky thing. He reminds Barry that Eddie Thawne tried this two Seasons ago to stop the Reverse-Flash; didn't keep Eobard down for long, did it? So, there's no guarantee Barry trying this will permanently stop Savitar either.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* MotiveRant: The episode starts out with one from Savitar, which essentially comes down to him having the CloningBlues due to being a time remnant.

to:

* MotiveRant: The episode starts out with one from Savitar, which essentially comes down to him having the CloningBlues CloneAngst due to being a time remnant.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Cloning Blues renamed to Clone Angst as per TRS, specifically about angst from a character discovering that they're a clone.


* CloningBlues: Savitar reveals that he is a time remnant created by Future Barry to fight Savitar. However he survived the fight and was subsequently rejected by Barry and the rest of Team Flash. This breaks this time remnant Barry and ends with him JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope and becoming Savitar himself.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* RegainedMemoriesSequence: When Heat Monger's attack calls for Barry's speedster knowledge, Iris snaps him back by recounting a childhood memory of her comforting Barry the night his mother died, resulting in all of Barry's memories flooding back to him at once.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AmnesiaEpisode: After Barry learns that one of his time remnants is Savitar, Cisco builds a machine to prevent Barry from forming new memories, so Savitar will not know their next move. This however ends up wiping out Barry’s entire memory, leading to a [[JustifiedTrope literal]] ForgotAboutHisPowers.

to:

* AmnesiaEpisode: After Barry learns that one of his time remnants is Savitar, Cisco builds a machine to prevent Barry from forming new memories, so Savitar will not know their next move. This however ends up wiping out Barry’s entire memory, leading to a [[JustifiedTrope literal]] literal ForgotAboutHisPowers.
Tabs MOD

Changed: 92

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* {{Adorkable}}: Barry in his amnesiac state, not once does he not have a smile on his face.

to:

* {{Adorkable}}: Barry in his amnesiac state, not once does he not have a smile on his face.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
per Trope Repair Shop, Jerkass Facade is being cut in favor of Hidden Heart Of Gold / Jerk With A Heart Of Gold.


* JerkassFacade: Killer Frost claims she never loved anyone from Team Flash...only for her blue eyes to briefly change to Caitlin's brown eyes.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Now knowing Savitar's identity, Cisco tries to alter Barry's brain to protect him... only to suffer unintended consequences.

to:

Now knowing Savitar's identity, Cisco tries to alter Barry's brain to protect him... only to suffer unintended consequences.



* CringeComedy: Barry's testimony at the hearing--due to his amnesic state and Julian having to feed him his lines.

to:

* CringeComedy: Barry's testimony at the hearing--due to his amnesic amnesiac state and Julian having to feed him his lines.



* JerkassFacade: Killer Frost claims she never loved anyone from Team Flash... only for her blue eyes to briefly change to Caitlin's brown eyes.

to:

* JerkassFacade: Killer Frost claims she never loved anyone from Team Flash... only for her blue eyes to briefly change to Caitlin's brown eyes.



** Amnesia!Barry suggests if they could name him ''The Streak'' instead of the Flash, which was an alias for a Jay Garrick {{Expy}} in the {{Franchise/DC Animated Universe}}.

to:

** Amnesia!Barry An amnesiac Barry suggests if they could name him ''The Streak'' instead of the Flash, which was an alias for a Jay Garrick {{Expy}} in the {{Franchise/DC Animated Universe}}.



** Cisco thought he could find a way to "mute" Barry's memories so Savitar couldn't use them, only to erase ''all'' of Barry's memories. It also has the effect of wiping out Savitar's memories as well... and Wally's powers since he got them from Savitar. Oddly Killer Frost doesn't revert back to Caitlin (suggesting that Savitar wasn't 100% directly involved with this change).

to:

** Cisco thought he could find a way to "mute" Barry's memories so Savitar couldn't use them, only to erase ''all'' of Barry's memories. It also has the effect of wiping out Savitar's memories as well... and Wally's powers since he got them from Savitar. Oddly Killer Frost doesn't revert back to Caitlin (suggesting that Savitar wasn't 100% directly involved with this change).



* PowerIncontinence: Amnesia!Barry undergoes one.

to:

* PowerIncontinence: Amnesia!Barry Amnesiac Barry undergoes one.

Top